The Answer to All of Your P99 Woes

[regandna]

Pantheon Rise of the Fallen!!

Pre-Alpha has been on for a while, and I predict Alpha will happen in late to mid-2021. Once that happens, the snowball will officially be rolling down the hill on this puppy as more pledgers will be let in. Pre-Alpha only includes testers who pledged way earlier when it was cheaper or the current $1000+ rate. However, Alpha will include everyone who pledged earlier for the lower rate, or the current $250-$500 pledge rate. All the haters can keep hating. But this puppy is coming!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRhQPo1Dhzw (solid 12min video about the current pre-alpha phase 5).

[greasemonk]

You are dumb as fuck if you think this game is ever going to come out.

[Ripqozko]

Pantheon worse then red and no one plays red. Hope that helps.

[regandna]

You are dumb as fuck if you think this game is ever going to come out.

It is a reasonable inference that a game that is in pre-alpha will be released... Everquest took years to develop and further develop.

[regandna]

Pantheon worse then red and no one plays red. Hope that helps.

I do not see any comparison between Pantheon and Red. Work on the anthologies. One discussion on Pantheons forum has over 120,308 posts. Seems a little more populated than Red, buddy.

[regandna]

He died snorting all your pre alpha money. Hope that helps.

Your toxic level just gained experience. Gratz!

[Fartycat]

it's analogies....

[Fartycat]

toxic the go to when 1. You can't think for yourself. 2. You can't think for yourself. 3. You guessed it.... You can't think for yourself.

[Fartycat]

120k posts does not mean it gets played.

[Zyth]

This could turn it around for Vanguard!

[greasemonk]

Anyone know what the fuck Fartycat is trying to say or is it a stroke?

[greasemonk]

It is a reasonable inference that a game that is in pre-alpha will be released... Everquest took years to develop and further develop.

Just like Star Citizen, right?

[regandna]

it's analogies....


Autocorrect got me. It is funny that you did not comb through either of the toxic posts to find a grammatical error, lol. Go figure! #Petty

[regandna]

120k posts does not mean it gets played.

You do not see a correlation between people being interested in a game and those same people playing it later? Why would it lose steam? The thing just keeps getting better and better as it goes along.

[Fartycat]

autocorrect on this site? you type it it keeps it. i'm just trying to get you to sound like you have a vocabulary to substantiate when you retort to someone who disagrees with you.

And to the above. not a stroke. just too many times people use toxic cuz that's what social media says about everything if you don't agree with them......

[regandna]

Just like Star Citizen, right?

I would say no.

[regandna]

autocorrect on this site? you type it it keeps it. i'm just trying to get you to sound like you have a vocabulary to substantiate when you retort to someone who disagrees with you.

And to the above. not a stroke. just too many times people use toxic cuz that's what social media says about everything if you don't agree with them......

I am on my phone, son. We can defer from the ad hominem antics. And "to substantiate when you retort to someone who disagrees with you." I think you are trying to say that you corrected my typo to help substantiate my retorts? Thanks, bud!

[Fartycat]

glad you used ad hominem fairly correctly. meaning in reaction to a person instead of their position. and substantiate is to prove or give weight to your position. I liked your initial post. i'd like to see pantheon come out. but you reacted poorly when you at first reieved negative criticism and replied in a less than salubrious manner.... :)

[Mblake81]

It is a reasonable inference that a game that is in pre-alpha will be released... Everquest took years to develop and further develop.

3 years to be installed on your computer. Played until Luclin so I only count that, it also includes two expansions. All in total, 6ish years.

[regandna]

3 years to be installed on your computer. Played until Luclin so I only count that, it also includes two expansions. All in total, 6ish years.

That sounds about right. They had a bigger budget from Sony, and thus a larger team of developers. I would say Pantheon is likely working with about 50% of that capacity, at best.

[Mblake81]

That sounds about right. They had a bigger budget from Sony, and thus a larger team of developers. I would say Pantheon is likely working with about 50% of that capacity, at best.

People in <Venerate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSx8EorKm7k)> were getting ready for Pantheon years ago. That thrill has come and gone for me. Yes its probably a fraction of the team size and funding. EQ was an unproven genre and it required a 3D accelerator card, so while SONY is huge that doesn't matter if the product isn't interesting.

[Danth]

EQ was made in the span of three years (1996-1999) for something on the order of 15 million, I believe. That does not include expansions. Pantheon is a scratch project compared to that, especially when accounting for inflation between then and now. According to rumor Pantheon has also re-booted itself and effectively started over a couple times now, explaining its continued "pre-alpha" state.

P99 has had at least a couple of guilds for folks waiting for Pantheon. At least one of them dated from early 2014. I can't say I'm holding my breath for Pantheon or have particularly high hopes for it, but I'm not going to go around trashing it either. It costs me nothing to check on its progress a couple times a year and who knows, it may one day surprise me.

Danth

[Mblake81]

Yes, there was a time that I could judge something in the computer world based on money but I think that time is pretty much gone now. I know I don't focus on technology like I once did and when the industry pushed 4k they lost me. Lately I have been playing Kenshi, which took over a decade and its made with a very old engine. So who am I to judge value based on money anymore with this hobby.

I have done my share of Pantheon bashing here. Sorry guys, they are not doing this to me again. I already went through this stuff with Vanguard and EQ2. I have kept an eye on MMORPGs over the years and the trends do not favor something good because of the money invested. When Landmark and Next were announced I gave up on EQ as anything good for me.

Pantheon being the next EQ due to Brad, well.. I have seen this show before. Aside from Brad and a few EQ sound effects.. I mean.. nothing says EQ when I see the streams.

[Babittle]

Pantheon, the best game never made! A pure world of imagination.

[Mblake81]

Also original EQ had a custom sound font for the AWE32/Soundblaster Live! cards. I can't even get any specialized joy like that these days with everything being generic.

Hey you got a potato or pawn shop laptop? come play our game. Next gen

Hey we got rid of the cd drive as well, it looks like an even more generic wal-mart device! woop come play our amazing new games.. that share an engine with a mobile phone! p-p-p-progress!

I know the name of EQ's cover artist, Keith Parkinson. Who is the cover artist for Pantheon? does it have a cover coming.. so cheap so flimsy, faster cheaper faster cheaper faster cheaper.. so we can bring you great bargain deals.. faster cheaper faster cheaper.. come play our games. Faster cheaper faster cheaper but somehow progressively start taking a decade to make.. faster cheaper so we can bring you great games but cost more in marketing than the game.. faster cheaper faster cheaper

[Fammaden]

How much is the donation to get 50% bonus xp, endless bag slots, and a giant statue of yourself in the newbie yard?

[mcoy]

If Pantheon happens I'll definitely give it a shot. If it doesn't - p99 will suffice for another year or two at least. Star Citizen Squadron 42 is at the top of my want list thanks to my Wing Commander memories. If that doesn't happen - well, I lived through 2020 (so far) I suspect I'll make it through that. For now feel free to hit me up for 90% on Green or 96% on Blue.

-Mcoy

[Terrok]

I don't play any games that don't have a 7 figure ante, don't want to end up playing with all the p99 riffraff. but post a link to their RnF, and let people judge for themselves if it with worth their tears.

[regandna]

EQ was made in the span of three years (1996-1999) for something on the order of 15 million, I believe. That does not include expansions. Pantheon is a scratch project compared to that, especially when accounting for inflation between then and now. According to rumor Pantheon has also re-booted itself and effectively started over a couple times now, explaining its continued "pre-alpha" state.

P99 has had at least a couple of guilds for folks waiting for Pantheon. At least one of them dated from early 2014. I can't say I'm holding my breath for Pantheon or have particularly high hopes for it, but I'm not going to go around trashing it either. It costs me nothing to check on its progress a couple times a year and who knows, it may one day surprise me.

Danth

Well said.

[Swish]

How much is the donation to get 50% bonus xp, endless bag slots, and a giant statue of yourself in the newbie yard?

It'll probably release as free to play lol

[Arvan]

I remember joking back in 2014 that pantheon wouldn't be out of alpha in 5 years... oops guess it wasn't a joke

[Mblake81]

It'll probably release as free to play lol

^

This is the model these games seem to use. They then charge something on the side that earns more over time than a monthly fee, like an adult would have for other adults.

[Halox]

Vaporware

[magnetaress]

^

This is the model these games seem to use. They then charge something on the side that earns more over time than a monthly fee, like an adult would have for other adults.

porn sites did the same thing for eternity, 'he is our free content' 'buy 14.99 now and get freeee accesss to this girls fresh [insert fetish] and three free months at our other websites

I want pantheon to do really well, I want to enjoy the story vicariously

but I do not want to dump hours or $$ of my life into it

I feel like the game took a swing in the wrong direction :( the backbone is good, but the gameplay is going to shadow wow. There's going to be way to much flare (giant burning swords and pauldrons of floating skulls).

[regandna]

I want pantheon to do really well, I want to enjoy the story vicariously

but I do not want to dump hours or $$ of my life into it

I feel like the game took a swing in the wrong direction :( the backbone is good, but the gameplay is going to shadow wow. There's going to be way to much flare (giant burning swords and pauldrons of floating skulls).

I hope they refrain from the over the top wow antics, but I am sure there will be some. It's more about the core complex play and the culture for me.

[Kohedron]

It's gonna be like every other mmo on Earth

It's gonna be good but X problem, therefore the population will plummet and then the problem will be lack of pop.

Then the servers will close and snaggletooth nerds will talk about how great the game was

[Mblake81]

I hope they refrain from the over the top wow antics, but I am sure there will be some. It's more about the core complex play and the culture for me.

debuf icons above the head so others can keep up with what is going on. (last I checked)

[cannobeers3]

It's been so long I am not really expecting it to happen, but if it does, cool. All the pre-alpha looks were not impressive, but I understand that these are just unpolished conceptual things.

At the end of the day, it is very difficult to develop a product you actually want to sell without falling into the common tropes of WoW-based MMOs. So many high-concept games straight-up failed trying to be different.

Catering to a tiny, but dedicated fanbase like this crowd? You better have an extra ace up your sleeve or your product will not fare well at all.

[busted]

Good things take time.

Pantheon will be released in the year 2122 with option to use VR + haptic suits or straight-up mind upload into game (buh-bye stupid meat bags).

[hobart]

Did the warder loot autist catch a ban for making a distasteful comment about the late great Aradune?

I understand the sentiment given the context of the boards, but that was literally not anywhere close to the top 100 most vile comments made here in the last week alone.

[getsome]

https://i.imgur.com/TT1QLkr.jpg

[Swish]

Did the warder loot autist catch a ban for making a distasteful comment about the late great Aradune?

I understand the sentiment given the context of the boards, but that was literally not anywhere close to the top 100 most vile comments made here in the last week alone.

Can we get a top 100 youtube vid? I'd watch it.

[regandna]

Can we get a top 100 youtube vid? I'd watch it.

[regandna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDT400aUVkI

[Penish]

Wow 800 views, the hype is real. Should launch soon with all 3 programmers.

[regandna]

Be quiet small Penish. This is a random blogger not connected to Pantheon.

[XeroKill]

I think people are putting far too much faith in Pantheon. Don't get me wrong, I am super excited and I want so very much for it to live up to the promises. However, let's be honest. It is going to be modernized, it will go F2P within a year, and it will almost certainly get sold to Tencent and end up just another husk of a game wrapped around a cash shop.

Maybe I am just too old, jaded and cynical, but I am over getting hyped about the promises of another EQ-like experience. Our time has come and gone. It was a good ride while it lasted, but the world is just too different for what Pantheon promises to deliver. I would love to be wrong, I HOPE that I am I wrong, but I would bet cash money that I'm not.

[regandna]

I hope you are wrong too. But we shall see. If alpha doesn’t happen by the start of 2022, then I’ll acquiesce and agree with your sentiments.

[OuterChimp]

Dude. We all play a game that is 20 years old.....nobody is going to leave p99 to play Panteone.

[karadin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDT400aUVkI

I tried to give this a chance but the combination of the guy's voice and the over sensationalism just turned me off. Still looking forward to Pantheon at some point in the distant future though. Anytime a new MMO drops I'll give it a look.

[shuklak]

Can't wait for my stimulus check to arrive so I can pledge.

[regandna]

Can't wait for my stimulus check to arrive so I can pledge.


Oorah!

[regandna]

https://www.pantheonmmo.com/news/evaluation-build-gameplay-stream-archive-is-available/ It is looking good, boys. The naysayers can keep spewing toxicity. Well, see them in-game in 2022!

[cannobeers3]

I'm good. I made my own Peloton.

[Ennewi]

Also, seven figures worth of investment secured.

[Hrothgar]

Wonder if you’ll answer the “you’re entitled to $5.63 from a class action lawsuit involving Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen” junk mail when it comes?

Pre-Alpha. Ha!

[Ennewi]

Wonder if you’ll answer the “you’re entitled to $5.63 from a class action lawsuit involving Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen” junk mail when it comes?

Pre-Alpha. Ha!

No. Also, even if no wasn't the correct response to your troll, that's not how pledges work due to Terms of Service, even in the case of Star Citizen.

https://www.pcgamesinsider.biz/news/67455/star-citizen-backer-loses-lawsuit-to-win-back-4500-pledge/

[Fammaden]

Will there be built in DKP? That's important.

[Hrothgar]

No. Also, even if no wasn't the correct response to your troll, that's not how pledges work due to Terms of Service, even in the case of Star Citizen.

https://www.pcgamesinsider.biz/news/67455/star-citizen-backer-loses-lawsuit-to-win-back-4500-pledge/

K, see ya in pre alpha.

[Arvan]

8 years about and millions in crowdfunding just for a tech demo in order to secure investors so they can begin building the game seems kind of not good to me? I mean i like “the vision” but i also live in the real world

[Ennewi]

K, see ya in pre alpha.

https://youtu.be/eCV9254WaLQ

[shuklak]

While we are not yet ready to go into too much detail until the planning stages are finalized, we are looking at several big milestones this year. These milestones include game progress, but also back-end tech supporting the game, web and other systems. We have some exciting prospects this year on partnerships as well which span the gamut from potential business partners to potential creative partners to potential marketing partners. Again, this shouldn’t be considered as any form of announcement, but rather an update as to the opportunities in front of us this year. We will have more to share over the coming months with more details as to the concrete milestones and their expected delivery dates.