Locket of Escape broken?

[Devonkain]

Locket of Escape list is still functioning, but at this time it has been 55 hours since a locket dropped. Was the locket removed but the /list left in place?

Anyone who camped locket were there droughts like this when you were there?

[fastboy21]

ouch...it took you 55 hours to ask?

[Tunabros]

ouch...it took you 55 hours to ask?

I would start questioning my life after like 6 hours

[Devonkain]

ouch...it took you 55 hours to ask?



After doing manastone and seeing really long droughts I just kind of got into the mindset of “just keep going.” Now I’m like “ahhh crap.”

[getsome]

Don’t give up hope. One will drop any minute.

[Man0warr]

It should definitely be removed based on the other stuff that was removed. Maybe they just cant disable /list functionality without a patch.

[Pyrocat]

they had a patch though

[nilbog]

Locket of Escape should no longer be dropping.

If there is still a /list at that camp, it is not intentional.

[cannobeers3]

As long as people are grinding out too many hours for nothing, it is worth it. :)

[Serendib]

Guy in first should really be given a locket, that's an insane mistake :(

[salladar]

frankly i think anyone who has stayed on the list for any significant amount of time should be awarded a locket.

It really is a difficult pill to swallow

[adichi]

apparently #1 was there for 55 hrs, dude should most def be given a locket for his courage...

especially considering there really weren't any patch notes notifying us

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/9OFavSq.gif

[Devonkain]

Locket of Escape should no longer be dropping.

If there is still a /list at that camp, it is not intentional.

So much time spent.

[hannahgrams]

let's stage a protest at qeynos tavern to get this #1 their locket

[Abcdefghijklmn]

Should give anyone listed before server went down locket, 2 days of sitting and clickin' for nothing is pretty rough. Or at least the top 3, poor bastards.

[Gustoo]

Guy in first should really be given a locket, that's an insane mistake :(

Full support

[Gustoo]

Anyone with over 24 hours seems fair and insane enough.

[Naboru]

give this man a locket.

or a custom title "the Patient"

[Nuggie]

Seemed like on Blue I'd get a locket every 12 hrs of having the camp, 18 max.

[Devonkain]

apparently #1 was there for 55 hrs, dude should most def be given a locket for his courage...

especially considering there really weren't any patch notes notifying us

To clarify #1 wasn't there for 55 hrs, #1 was there for 70 hours at the time of the post.

[Gustoo]

give this man a locket.

or a custom title "the Patient"

Full support "the Patient" which is even better than locket.

But locket seems earned. Help this guy out.

[LadyInWhite]

Seems only fair the people on list before the server reset, and then continued on because the list still existed after the reset, be rewarded a locket. This isn’t a game breaking item. Make it right! A human error intentional or not, can also be fixed with human compassion. Near 80 hours lost due to this error should be a simple matter to fix. I will be hoping these people on the broken list are compensated.

[rewinder47]

Lovely, lovely locket love
You could use a little of

[Gustoo]

So is this moved to resolved yet? The parties in question should have a petition in, and should update us when they hear something.

Names or items. Easier to give items. Cooler to give names. Honestly, WHY NOT. Accidents happen, the server won't break if these dudes get lockets.

Should be a really easy call to make.

[Fael]

It would ruin the classic experience to give this human a locket.

[Masakizt]

SOE weren't huge on telling players items were taken out either.. hate to sound cliché but its classic.

For Instance; The Kly or NoS never got a mention in classic patch notes just that some Dalnir mobs were too powerful for their level and it was adjusted.

Simply read through some old school allakahazam and you'll see plenty of tears in the comments

More information is available now, more people clued up which makes you nerds think that you deserve a participation award

[BiG SiP]

savage

[Woodark]

People were responding to AFK boxes for 55-70 hours straight for an item that was already removed. I doubt the dev's response will be "it's classic"

[hannahgrams]

we will not rest until justice is done

although i will forget about this tomorrow

[zaldaben]

yeah 70 hours which im assuming you had buddies logging in but still. thats retarded for an item that was already removed. if you are working even a low paying job 12ish/hr thats like 800 bucks opportunity cost you could of earned working instead of pissing it down the drain for an item thats not even obtainable anymore. If you have a good paying job of around 30/ hr thats 2100. thats some real grievances. I think the folks waiting on that list since they shadow removed it and didnt announce it should be at least compensated with the item at the very least.

[White_knight]

How do you stay up for 55 hr straight?

Drugs?

[rjw513]

Maybe those guys should rethink their lives...

[jadier]

yeah 70 hours which im assuming you had buddies logging in but still. thats retarded for an item that was already removed. if you are working even a low paying job 12ish/hr thats like 800 bucks opportunity cost you could of earned working instead of pissing it down the drain for an item thats not even obtainable anymore. If you have a good paying job of around 30/ hr thats 2100. thats some real grievances. I think the folks waiting on that list since they shadow removed it and didnt announce it should be at least compensated with the item at the very least.

Ehhh, there’s a timeline. That the devs follow. That’s publicly available.

If someone ignored that timeline then decided to stick around for *literally days*, that’s 100% on them.

[waltjig]

Damn that sucks. Cancel your subscription and stop paying

[xmaerx]

Ehhh, there’s a timeline. That the devs follow. That’s publicly available.

If someone ignored that timeline then decided to stick around for *literally days*, that’s 100% on them.

Which timeline are you looking at? The legacy seb loot was not removed in the same update as the locket of escape, on blue, on classic, or any server that I'm aware of. It's not even listed as such on the official timeline that Green is supposedly following, nor were they removed at the same time on Blue.

There should be 2 weeks after locket when other items are removed, but they seem to be clumping the timeline into one-month batches.

Is that generous of them to leave it in?

Maybe.

Is there any way someone "should have known" it wasn't dropping because there's a timeline?

No.

Even then, that's irrelevant, and the "it's classic" argument doesn't hold up. Nobody was /list poopsocking things in classic expecting it to be taken out.

Another vote for "Give the guy a title or a locket" like the democracy this is.

[Lostfaction]

a cruel trick and days of a life lost

[jadier]

Which timeline are you looking at? The legacy seb loot was not removed in the same update as the locket of escape, on blue, on classic, or any server that I'm aware of. It's not even listed as such on the official timeline that Green is supposedly following, nor were they removed at the same time on Blue.

There should be 2 weeks after locket when other items are removed, but they seem to be clumping the timeline into one-month batches.

Is that generous of them to leave it in?

Maybe.

Is there any way someone "should have known" it wasn't dropping because there's a timeline?

No.

Even then, that's irrelevant, and the "it's classic" argument doesn't hold up. Nobody was /list poopsocking things in classic expecting it to be taken out.

Another vote for "Give the guy a title or a locket" like the democracy this is.

Yeah, I don’t buy it. We all knew removal was imminent, there was a patch, and after 20 hours of no locket the guy goes, “I’ll give it another 35 hours then ask!” And he should be...compensated?

I’m not making an “it’s classic” argument, I’m making a “this was a stupid waste of time that deserves discouraging not rewarding”. But I’m also generally anti-poop sock, and especially multiday insanity like this.

[xmaerx]

"We all knew" is a stretch. "imminent" is a stretch. Hell, after they didn't remove it at the 2 week mark like they should have, even "removal" was a stretch.

The locket went 3 days without dropping before. There was no indicator that any items at all were removed, because there wasn't even a "Some items were removed" statement.

The suspicion arose when it became obvious that a lot of other stuff was removed, and that suspicion was mitigated by the existence of the serverside list still being active

[jadier]

"We all knew" is a stretch. "imminent" is a stretch. Hell, after they didn't remove it at the 2 week mark like they should have, even "removal" was a stretch.

The locket went 3 days without dropping before. There was no indicator that any items at all were removed, because there wasn't even a "Some items were removed" statement.

The suspicion arose when it became obvious that a lot of other stuff was removed, and that suspicion was mitigated by the existence of the serverside list still being active

Ehhh, I really don’t think “this item that was around for less than a month was probably removed in the one month patch” really requires any stretching. And “sometimes you had to poop sock for 72 hours” is, again, an argument against poopsocking, not an argument for compensating someone for voluntarily wasting their time on a free emulator.

[xmaerx]

And yet, that's not the point. They admitted it was an error. Nobody is threatening legal action. Nobody is demanding a boycott. Nobody is sending death threats. The community is just saying that the person was mislead, accidentally, and something more than a "Shrug." is probably appropriate.

What harm is there in compensating someone, at zero effort required, for a mistake? Why are you crusading against it, exactly?

[jadier]

And yet, that's not the point. They admitted it was an error. Nobody is threatening legal action. Nobody is demanding a boycott. Nobody is sending death threats. The community is just saying that the person was mislead, accidentally, and something more than a "Shrug." is probably appropriate.

What harm is there in compensating someone, at zero effort required, for a mistake? Why are you crusading against it, exactly?

Crusading? Dude, my view (pretty clear in my comments!) is basically, “this is silly and poopsocking is silly”. Which I stand by.

Sucks for the guy, but he chose to spend an inordinate amount of time sitting in a mid level dungeon for a thing. That was his choice, and it didn’t pan out in a way that was reasonably predictable given that he chose to poopsock a month after Kunark dropped for an item that was around for less than a month. So yeah, I would and am arguing this does deserve a “Shrug”.

Because this whole thread is very, very silly.

[xmaerx]

Still crusading against someone's happiness in an online game because they're playing differently than you. Truly, the most bearded neck I've seen in a while.

Congratulations.

[jadier]

Still crusading against someone's happiness in an online game because they're playing differently than you. Truly, the most bearded neck I've seen in a while.

Congratulations.

Okiedokie

[zaldaben]

dont think its unreasonable if there is a /list at the camp still that the item the list is for should still be dropping.

[Gustoo]

There is no reason not to get this guy a locket. Does it really hurt all the other players if there is 1 more locket in the game, or even 10 more? Geez.

I can't think of a single reason not to help this guy out. Its a game for fun. He threw a lot of hours down. What is the drawback?

The list system is broken by teamviewer and stuff. It allows coordinated permanent list keeping. It kinda sucks, but its the best solution we have right now for the poopsock legacy item problem.

[BiG SiP]

https://i.imgur.com/Q8OJ7pVg.jpg

[Gustoo]

The reasons I have heard not to give this guy an item

1. "Its classic to get screwed by game"

is that it?

The list was active. No other lists were active. Being pulled suddenly and list disappearing makes sense. List staying on, does not make sense. Maybe he is someone that staff hates hardcore and doesn't want him to get the item. That could make sense. Maybe hes just a patsy for a big guild that already has 10 of them. What do I know.

Next server better not have legacy items done with limited uptime and maximum pixel rot encouragement. It really has tainted this server. Its not staffs fault they're being great heroes but with 21 years of vanilla everquest we gotta make some mods to carry classic everquest into perpetuity.

People camping on 1x level 1 mob till it stops giving them EXP is deep insanity.

Level caps, removed or permanently included legacy stuff. I don't see another way to make the journey less of a rat race to secure generational everquest wealth. I understand this deeply because I was in the same position on red99 and it took away a bit of the fun. I got to get the stuff I wanted but I'd rather be able to come have fun whenever I want.

[Thulian]

lists are not classic, might as well instance the zone so groups can camp it themselves

[BiG SiP]

im never camping a green mob again
hope this helps

[Arvan]

Kekw

[Gustoo]

im never camping a green mob again
hope this helps

Me too! but I never did it. Instances incoming.

[Gustoo]

I feel like server staff is like michael in the good place trying to design for us a functional happy playing environment and just seeing us tank it no matter what they do.

Its good stuff.

[Thulian]

im never camping a green mob again
hope this helps

its not worth it, literally nothing how everquest was, its so toxic

[Gustoo]

Thats why people are logging in to 50 pop red. No cuz the low pop is good, but because you can't teamviewer poopsock permacamp all 20 good items in the game.

RIP

[Bardp1999]

To clarify #1 wasn't there for 55 hrs, #1 was there for 70 hours at the time of the post.

Was #1 actually there for 70 hours or was #1 being pass around as a guild bot with 10 different people playing him? AKA were you on Coxbox or were you actually playing the game as intended?

[Gustoo]

Yeah.

I can understand the gnomercy policy if these toons are all just screen shared lamesville. I feel bad for these peoples companies productivity.

[Swish]

Was #1 actually there for 70 hours or was #1 being pass around as a guild bot with 10 different people playing him? AKA were you on Coxbox or were you actually playing the game as intended?

I'm sure he went 3 days without sleep, how dare you question his stamina :rolleyes:

[Woodark]

As #3 on the list, I was there for ~60 hours total.

My brother changed his sleep schedule to cover for 6 hours at night, so I spent 3 long days completing AFK checks for an item that was already removed.

Thank you for the supportive comments.

[Nuggie]

im never camping a green mob again
hope this helps

same

I camped manastone with some pals. swapped people to cover different parts of the day, because we're sane and not super human. I probably won't do that again for another item on P99. I had a burning desire to have a manastone, have for over 15 years. I scratched that itch. Wouldn't do it again. The /list system is awful.

[Castle2.0]

WTS Locket of Escape

10% discount to anyone who can prove they were top 3 on list more than 24 hours after it got removed.

[xmaerx]

10% DISCOUNT for an item with no listed price

word.

[Gustoo]

same

I camped manastone with some pals. swapped people to cover different parts of the day, because we're sane and not super human. I probably won't do that again for another item on P99. I had a burning desire to have a manastone, have for over 15 years. I scratched that itch. Wouldn't do it again. The /list system is awful.

Staff is aware of the problems, they care, and I am confident that next server will be different.

Why in the name of dookie balls on fire they choose to offer no feedback or acknowledgement of this thread publicly boggles my brain. I am starting to assume that all staff interactions happen in discord??? I have no idea. It is really disheartening so I feel for everyone just wondering WTF.

[Tunabros]

WTS Locket of Escape

10% discount to anyone who can prove they were top 3 on list more than 24 hours after it got removed.


10% discount to anyone who can prove they were top 3 on list more than 24 hours after it got removed.


10% discount

:eek::eek:

[Gwaihir]

Thats why people are logging in to 50 pop red. No cuz the low pop is good, but because you can't teamviewer poopsock permacamp all 20 good items in the game.

RIP

Wait,you can bypass the boxing ban by simply using TeamViewer and there's no safeguard checks of the active memory for instances of remote broadcasting software actively being used on green/blue?

Hold my beer

[Taiku]

Wait,you can bypass the boxing ban by simply using TeamViewer and there's no safeguard checks of the active memory for instances of remote broadcasting software actively being used on green/blue?

Hold my beer

Hope you studied for your unrest maze test!

[Thulian]

If your that invested that you would use all that stuff just to box you might have other issues you should be dealing with.

[Gustoo]

Wait,you can bypass the boxing ban by simply using TeamViewer and there's no safeguard checks of the active memory for instances of remote broadcasting software actively being used on green/blue?

Hold my beer

I have no idea at all what spyware is being used by p99 client. I barely log on and if I did I wouldn't violate any rules because if I calculated my salaried hourly rate into gustoo the character is worth ~1 trillion dollars so I can afford to take a little extra time here and there to enjoy the game and not have my shit banned.

I'm just rambling theoryquest. I think that these guys running 3 weeks straight are sharing an active character with something like team viewer. It doesn't mean they are boxing, it just means they are being remote accessed which as far as I know is totally allowable. Its more like boxxing a work microsoft outlook email account "working hard over here boss!" while teamviewing into your personal machine to keep the AFK checks up. It just means guys are doing a shit job at their office jobs.