PSA: Your Gnoll Scrolls are Nerfed 50%

[Castle2.0]

100% confirmed across multiple toons of various level/race/class combos.

Shadow nerf. No patch notes. No justification. Not classic.

[Fammaden]

Ell Oh Ell

[yyrkoon]

PLEASE nerf it some more

it should be gobbo ear level

[Fammaden]

PLEASE nerf it some more

it should be gobbo ear level

And gob ears were nerfed themselves within the last couple years.

[BiG SiP]

better get started farming another 2 million scrolls
(LOL)

[douglas1999]

So quest xp is back in? Cause sarnak war braids aren't giving any xp or faction adjustments as of right now, the npc just says the relevant text and that's it.

[Tunabros]

better get started farming another 2 million scrolls
(LOL)

[Scalem]

better get started farming another 2 million scrolls
(LOL)

[Exard3k]

I couldnt care less

[Scalem]

Castle is beside himself. Running around Norrath begging (through pms) Rogean's staff for his phone number.

[cannobeers3]

All that whining you did makes this worth it.

[Castle2.0]

Dudes, I already sent a singing telegram to Rogean's house and will be...

Ok I'll stop the joke here. I am sure he has dealt with some crazy elves at some point in his 10+ year career as chairman of Norrath.

So quest xp is back in? Cause sarnak war braids aren't giving any xp or faction adjustments as of right now, the npc just says the relevant text and that's it. When did you test? Still the case?

[Videri]

So quest xp is back in? Cause sarnak war braids aren't giving any xp or faction adjustments as of right now, the npc just says the relevant text and that's it.

Are you feign deathed? If so, that would explain the lack of faction hits. I don't know why it wouldn't be giving exp, though.

[douglas1999]

Just turned in another set of braids and it worked as normal.. *shrug*, maybe somebody turned in some random item to him that screwed up my first turn in.

[Castle2.0]

Just turned in another set of braids and it worked as normal.. *shrug*, maybe somebody turned in some random item to him that screwed up my first turn in.

Good to hear. I'll do braids on a toon at some point I'm sure.

[BiG SiP]

You shouldn't doxx people Castle2.0, it's wrong.

[galach]

Castle is beside himself. Running around Norrath begging (through pms) Rogean's staff for his phone number.

Don't agree with the furniture layout but I'm not an interior designer.

https://i.imgur.com/oIGXBOT.jpg

[Castle2.0]

Don't agree with the furniture layout but I'm not an interior designer.

https://i.imgur.com/oIGXBOT.jpg

Foiled (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9IEkxZTWVo)

[Kief]

lol galach slam dunkin this ungrateful butthead.

of course they nerfd ur scrolls since u made such a big deal outa it doofus. gawwwwd

[jadier]

All that whining you did makes this worth it.

I don't typically go in for schadenfreude, but for this? I'll make an exception.

[BiG SiP]

https://i.imgur.com/aT1hJAc.jpg

[Castle2.0]

Imagine something. Then imagine it makes you feel good.

Sounds great, mates. Who needs VR, you guys got this ;)

[Evia]

So I take it you won't make a video anymore leveling to 60 the quickest?

[Castle2.0]

So I take it you won't make a video anymore leveling to 60 the quickest?

Calculations are being made as we speak ;) If so, it won't be tomorrow.

[Gorster]

My hope is they let the hoarders spend all the time getting everything handed in, strut around for a day whinging about the nerfed xp, then just ban them outright.

[loramin]

My hope is they let the hoarders spend all the time getting everything handed in, strut around for a day whinging about the nerfed xp, then just ban them outright.

Yeah! How dare people play EverQuest!

[Scalem]

Don't agree with the furniture layout but I'm not an interior designer.

https://i.imgur.com/oIGXBOT.jpg

10/10

[Gorster]

Yeah! How dare people play EverQuest!

Odd, don't think my playing has ever resulted in quest xp being shut off for 30 days. Must just be a coincidence.

[loramin]

Odd, don't think my playing has ever resulted in quest xp being shut off for 30 days. Must just be a coincidence.

It had nothing to do with players (all they did was play classic EQ).

Quest XP was shut off because after ten years of "beta testing" (when they easily could have made any changes to quest XP ... or anything else) the staff decided to just throw classic EQ out the window for a month on Green ... so they could indulge their unclassic "server first" MMOG speed-running fetish.

If any players are to blame it's the like 0.01% of the server that actually cares about server firsts: "they" ruined classic EQ for 100% of the players on the classic EQ server. But again, it was 100% Rogean and Nilbog's call, so it's not even really any player's fault.

[Scalem]

It had nothing to do with players (all they did was play classic EQ).

Quest XP was shut off because after ten years of "beta testing" (when they easily could have made any changes to quest XP ... or anything else) the staff decided to just throw classic EQ out the window for a month on Green ... so they could indulge their unclassic "server first" MMOG speed-running fetish.

If any players are to blame it's the like 0.01% of the server that actually cares about server firsts: "they" ruined classic EQ for 100% of the players on the classic EQ server. But again, it was 100% Rogean and Nilbog's call, so it's not even really any player's fault.

This server has never been anything but "classic" in name and spirit. Green will never be a true classic EQ server. Those are 20 years old and are never coming back.

[Bootlee]

Classic isn't 50 accounts.

[cd288]

Lmao I’m NGL this middle finger from the staff to Castle is pretty hilarious

[Castle2.0]

It had nothing to do with players (all they did was play classic EQ).

Quest XP was shut off because after ten years of "beta testing" (when they easily could have made any changes to quest XP ... or anything else) the staff decided to just throw classic EQ out the window for a month on Green ... so they could indulge their unclassic "server first" MMOG speed-running fetish.

If any players are to blame it's the like 0.01% of the server that actually cares about server firsts: "they" ruined classic EQ for 100% of the players on the classic EQ server. But again, it was 100% Rogean and Nilbog's call, so it's not even really any player's fault.

Loramin's a hammer. This topic is a nail.

[loramin]

Classic isn't 50 accounts.

Right, but a simple (and more classic) fix would have been to cap quest XP gains.

You want to use 50 accounts to gnoll scroll to 60? You can try, but after you get (say) 20% of your XP for the level from quests, quest XP stops working. Go kill something, those 50 accounts won't help (much).

Who cares if the people who prepped for the race get to race 20% faster (while playing by the rules of classic EQ) ... unless you care that much more about speed running than you do about classic EQ?

[BiG SiP]

video game “achievements” (LOL) are one of the dumbest things to happen in gaming in the last 20 years

[Solemnus]

Way to double down on the idiocy P99. At least if anyone ever calls you out on making some of the dumbest choices ever, you can say you stood by your convictions.

[Castle2.0]

Way to double down on the idiocy P99. At least if anyone ever calls you out on making some of the dumbest choices ever, you can say you stood by your convictions.

Must feel bad knowing you aren't very creative and lack discipline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe3jGhPwS6c).

[DoodyLich666]

video game “achievements” (LOL) are one of the dumbest things to happen in gaming in the last 20 years

This is totally true. We nerds have always tried to flex our “skillz” against one another, but the whole digital trophy system that exists now has made it much more cringe. The weird jock “esport” thing is so lame.

[Castle2.0]

This is totally true. We nerds have always tried to flex our “skillz” against one another, but the whole digital trophy system that exists now has made it much more cringe. The weird jock “esport” thing is so lame.
I know, it's like chess or wrestling. Why must one man prove himself against another? It's all so tribal.

WTB Pearls

Need something to clutch right now.

[Solemnus]

Must feel bad knowing you aren't very creative and lack discipline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe3jGhPwS6c).

I don't understand what you are referring to. My comment wasn't aimed at you if that's what you thought. P99 = people nerfing classic shit for no good reason.

[DoodyLich666]

I am fine with competition, I just don’t think that we need accolades for gaming. I think in the end the whole achievement thing actually ends up working to stifle the creativity in games that I think makes mmos fun. It creates a box that you must work within, and if you go outside of it to do something new, you are accused of cheating people from these achievements. I believe that this whole quest nerf debacle proves this point.
It’s fine that there is a race to get to max level fast, but the whole yellow text/ name on p99 wiki thing set up a pretense where it created a “right and wrong” way of going about it.

[douglas1999]

I dunno I think the yellow text server first messages are cool, plenty of them have been non-seal team.

[BiG SiP]

https://i.imgur.com/BmPHzgC.gif

[Castle2.0]

I don't understand what you are referring to. My comment wasn't aimed at you if that's what you thought. P99 = people nerfing classic shit for no good reason.

I guess I just expect the RnF in threads these days and I got my responses ready to go <3

I am fine with competition, I just don’t think that we need accolades for gaming. I think in the end the whole achievement thing actually ends up working to stifle the creativity in games that I think makes mmos fun. It creates a box that you must work within, and if you go outside of it to do something new, you are accused of cheating people from these achievements. I believe that this whole quest nerf debacle proves this point.

It’s fine that there is a race to get to max level fast, but the whole yellow text/ name on p99 wiki thing set up a pretense where it created a “right and wrong” way of going about it.

I think you got it backwards. I had this idea for a long time and yellow text is not the driver. If you check my sig, you'll see I kind of like to play the game outside the "box". I create my own goals and achievements.

My own yellow text is me saying "Hey me, that was cool! This time it worked out and you did something fun/unique/difficult." The bravado and fake pixel thirst is more trolling the easily trolled. I try to let on... but people stuck in their thinking or don't pay attention.

The Devs are putting an artificial box of what they think is the "appropriate" speed of leveling and the "appropriate" methods of leveling.

They are wrong. But it's their box and they have a right to be wrong :D

I turned the box upside down to show them what they never looked at on the bottom and they didn't like it. We all did it when half the server bound @ firepots.

Here is EQ if players made different choices.

And that, my friend, is what it's all about: player choice. I made my own choice to set my own goals, and disciplined myself to achieve it. I don't care one way or another what a random simu-elf online has to say about it wanting to add to or take away from it.

Each server (aka each paralell universe of Norrath) has different people making difference choices. Rallo Zek server took down Sleeper. That said something about their players, and the server.

What is the story being told on Green?

Lots of great, small anecdotes of people grouping, raiding, progressing together. That's EQ. But there is also a toxic element at the top.

Also, the freedom of players to tell interesting and meaningful stories in their actions is being met by overreaching deus ex machina seeking to impose its bland will, regurgitating the past. Unfortunately, this makes Norrath less special, less vibrant.

Chase away your storywriters and your storytellers won't have much left to tell. When the stories are gone, people go looking elsewhere for an engaging story.

[DoodyLich666]

I dunno I think the yellow text server first messages are cool, plenty of them have been non-seal team.

I accept that I am probably in the minority with my opinion on that. Gaming is more popular, and main stream, than ever, and I bet the achievements have helped it get to this point. I like to play games to scratch my nerd itch, not to gain a sense of accomplishment.
And Castle, I actually see your attempt to level with only quests as a noble endeavor. You found a creative way to level a character, but got nerfed because it would make many try hards sad.

[BiG SiP]

I guess I just expect the RnF in threads these days and I got my responses ready to go <3



I think you got it backwards. I had this idea for a long time and yellow text is not the driver. If you check my sig, you'll see I kind of like to play the game outside the "box". I create my own goals and achievements.

My own yellow text is me saying "Hey me, that was cool! This time it worked out and you did something fun/unique/difficult." The bravado and fake pixel thirst is more trolling the easily trolled. I try to let on... but people stuck in their thinking or don't pay attention.

The Devs are putting an artificial box of what they think is the "appropriate" speed of leveling and the "appropriate" methods of leveling.

They are wrong. But it's their box and they have a right to be wrong :D

I turned the box upside down to show them what they never looked at on the bottom and they didn't like it. We all did it when half the server bound @ firepots.

Here is EQ if players made different choices.

And that, my friend, is what it's all about: player choice. I made my own choice to set my own goals, and disciplined myself to achieve it. I don't care one way or another what a random simu-elf online has to say about it wanting to add to or take away from it.

Each server (aka each paralell universe of Norrath) has different people making difference choices. Rallo Zek server took down Sleeper. That said something about their players, and the server.

What is the story being told on Green?

Lots of great, small anecdotes of people grouping, raiding, progressing together. That's EQ. But there is also a toxic element at the top.

Also, the freedom of players to tell interesting and meaningful stories in their actions is being met by overreaching deus ex machina seeking to impose its bland will, regurgitating the past. Unfortunately, this makes Norrath less special, less vibrant.

Chase away your storywriters and your storytellers won't have much left to tell. When the stories are gone, people go looking elsewhere for an engaging story.

https://i.imgur.com/v6a6Za8.gif

[jadier]

.... The bravado and fake pixel thirst is more trolling the easily trolled. I try to let on... but people stuck in their thinking or don't pay attention.

...

Here is EQ if players made different choices.

....

Also, the freedom of players to tell interesting and meaningful stories in their actions is being met by overreaching deus ex machina seeking to impose its bland will, regurgitating the past. Unfortunately, this makes Norrath less special, less vibrant.

Chase away your storywriters and your storytellers won't have much left to tell. When the stories are gone, people go looking elsewhere for an engaging story.

My bravado is trolling, but also my abuse of the free account system is a Freethinking exercise in Great Storytelling, and should be Gaming Legend on par those who killed the Sleeper. I am a serious person whose concerns are legitimate.

[cd288]

I accept that I am probably in the minority with my opinion on that. Gaming is more popular, and main stream, than ever, and I bet the achievements have helped it get to this point. I like to play games to scratch my nerd itch, not to gain a sense of accomplishment.
And Castle, I actually see your attempt to level with only quests as a noble endeavor. You found a creative way to level a character, but got nerfed because it would make many try hards sad.

Honestly at this stage I think I might be more embarrassed than anything if I was like the first X to 60 or something like that

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/BT9DzmU.gif

Add the gnoll scrolls to a list of quests that were too popular and nerfed, and to nerfed loot due to poor behavior at the camps (seafuries etc).

[Castle2.0]

My bravado is trolling, but also my abuse of the free account system is a Freethinking exercise in Great Storytelling, and should be Gaming Legend on par those who killed the Sleeper. I am a serious person whose concerns are legitimate.

Remove the sarcasm and biased interpretation of facts and that is somewhat accurate. Thanks Jaded. But I guess removing sarcasm and bias would delete the post entirely. Could have just quoted me and gave at thumbs up, pal.

[Nuggie]

This server has never been anything but "classic" in name and spirit. Green will never be a true classic EQ server. Those are 20 years old and are never coming back.

Damnit man, but why do you have to come in with logic and reason? Like... that Shits cutting my feels deep right now. :(

[Shoryuken9001]

When has a 60 Ranger ever hurt Everquest? #Nutclassic

[Nagoya]

100% confirmed across multiple toons of various level/race/class combos.

aïe aïe aïe
i picture you fast switching through 50 toons furiously to double take everything with your pen and calculator. :(

thanks for warning everyone i guess. this is very selfless of you.

however this is very false isn't it?
"Hey me, that was cool! This time it worked out and you did something fun/unique/difficult."

it's not "Hey me", it's "Hey every other EQ players" - you're constantly yelling & bragging on the forum.
there are some "hey me" kind of people out there, but we never hear about them.
you're not one of them. you're a "look at me" kind of people.

in the end, i'm with loramin and co here (incl. yourself :confused:), everything around the quest xp nerf sounds very stupid and goes against everything this project is apparently standing for. it sucks.

but come on, you brought that on yourself man.
only thing left to do is see the irony and laugh about it.
good luck.

[adichi]

correct me if im wrong but i don't think people were corpsing 1000+ scrolls in classic.

just like how swarm kiting was reduced to 25 mobs, certain things on this server need to be nerfed/balanced in order to compensate with the times...

[Bluryu]

So... here's my take on all this, the nobody that I am around here.

Ultimately with the release of green, Project 1999 is a failure. Absolutely, totally and completely. Entirely. It is and always will be, now and forever, just a group of nerds pirating EQ and making their own custom server with custom rules, custom assets and custom gameplay. Its not EverQuest at all, and this isn't necessarily only the blame of the staff, but it is partially their failure.

I wanted to play P99 for so, so, so long. But, I held off. I wanted to give it time. A bit like we do with early access games. I waited for the green server. They launched it, and my favorite aspect of EverQUEST was disabled. The quests. Well, the part of them that progress your character level.

See, here's where I see something the P99 staff fail to, completely. How the gameplay we all know and remember about EQ... the grouping, the endless slaughter of mobs, how people say things like "there's actually very few quests in EverQuest". Uh, I personally believe that THIS gameplay which has been FORCIBLY enforced by the P99 staff is actually the REAL 'unintended gameplay'. The people who made EverQuest, Brad McQuad and such? They didn't come up with all of the hundreds of quests in the game so that people could ignore them, but a lot of people did. That is true.. but not all of us did. Some people love the questing aspect of EverQuest. I'm one of those people. And for me, Project 1999 is only for people that slay endless hordes of mobs, that much has been perfectly clear and that's so very boring, disappointing and sad for a project with so much love and passion behind it as this. What a failure! You might as well have made World of Warcraft. A game for people that just turn their brains off and kill monsters endlessly, raid and then do nothing else. Congratulations?

Look at classes like the Bard. The Enchanter. Sure, these classes have combat abilities, but they also have special advantages for DOING QUESTS that make them unique. The bard's run speed was not so they could DoT dozens of monsters at once. It was so they could run mail between the cities, it was so they could quickly deliver belts to Kaladim. It was so that you could adventure is Norrath, and progress your character, even if nobody else played EverQuest anymore. That's right, for the most part, they designed a world that could accommodate a lonely traveler, all alone in the world, and that was great game design.

Why would someone like me ever want to play on Project 1999 when the staff want hate questing? They feel the only 'legit' way to play EverQuest is to endlessly grind monsters, when the real developers of EverQuest actually wanted you to DO QUESTS ENDLESSLY, HENCE THE NAME EVER-FREAKING-QUEST. Just because players took their own routes to progress through the game, and the path-of-least-resistance become the most popular, does not mean that enforcing that gameplay style and ONLY that gameplay style is "Recreating Classic EverQuest". Its recreating Your Quest, Not Mine.

Congratulations Project 1999. On throwing away 10 years of your lives making a custom server that ultimately was a failure. All because you hate Quests. Well, that pretty much means you hate EverQuest too then, because like it or not they're the real game behind the endless grind of XP and levels. The stories and adventures you have doing quests are where the real magic exists in this game, and yes, the people you meet along the way too. Not the raiding or the level up groups. You can find that in... every MMO ever made.

As for Castle and people like him? (Sorry Castle) The obvious solution was to just ban them. Obviously exploiting the game with hundreds of accounts is pissing all over everything the game stands for, just like multiboxing does.

Instead of nerfing the game with quests giving less XP for newbies and such, you really should have just let people play the game. People that turn in thousands of bone chips or whatever, they do no harm to anyone but themselves. They bore themselves out of the adventure and soon disappear.

As for me, I'm sold on the idea that the staff here can't be trusted with providing EverQuest, I gave them 3 chances. I was very patient, and very lenient. They failed me 3 times:

At launch on green, quest xp disabled.
At launch of kunark, quest xp disabled, and now, quest xp permanently shadow nerfed because f*ck us that's why.

Ban me. Hide my post. Prevent it from appearing. I don't care. Good for you if you do. Doesn't change what's true.

Goodbye EverQuest. I'll continue to recreate you for myself on my own on live with self made restrictions and rules the best I can. Its... actually pretty easy to do really. If you just don't use a lot of the newer things, the game is still pretty hard all by yourself.

[Solemnus]

I won't comment too much on the rest of what you said, other than to say I agree with the general sentiment. If they ever tired of the name Project 1999, I think a rename to Rogeans Personal Elf Simulator would work just as well.


As for Castle and people like him? (Sorry Castle) The obvious solution was to just ban them. Obviously exploiting the game with hundreds of accounts is pissing all over everything the game stands for, just like multiboxing does.

I disagree with this in part. If they didn't want these things happening then they ought to have implemented server rules saying we can't do them - and then only after that should they ban people for doing it.
As is, any server that just straight up bans players because they do something they didn't anticipate / desire without it breaking the rules, is trash, because it admits the admins will ban any player at any time for any arbitrary reason they decide upon. Not exactly a place worth investing your time into.

People need to look beyond Castle and what he did as well. He might have been the instigator for these changes, but he's not the one who made them and therefore can't be blamed for what happened. Blame lies solely at the feet of those who made the decisions.

[jadier]

Remove the sarcasm and biased interpretation of facts and that is somewhat accurate. Thanks Jaded. But I guess removing sarcasm and bias would delete the post entirely. Could have just quoted me and gave at thumbs up, pal.

“My abuse of the free account system to hoard gnoll scrolls is a grand tale, comparable to slaying the Sleeper” is just such a patently insane take that only stunned sarcasm can suffice.

I’m sorry you’re this way.

[Castle2.0]

i picture you fast switching through 50 toons furiously to double take everything with your pen and calculator. Excel ;) No pen, no paper, no toon switching. 21st century baby.

Also, I think this person missed the joke. I am starting to think the average joe lacks a sense of humor, whose mind must be prompted by a primetime TV laugh track.

I’m sorry you’re this way.
Must feel bad knowing you aren't very creative and lack discipline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe3jGhPwS6c).

Continue to opine in my thread. I care enough about your opinion to not just copy-pasta previous response.

[BiG SiP]

guys, check out how good i am at abusing emulator mechanics in 2020

[Thulian]

I think you got it backwards. I had this idea for a long time and yellow text is not the driver. If you check my sig, you'll see I kind of like to play the game outside the "box". I create my own goals and achievements.

Try setting some goals and achievements in real life and stop looking for ways to abuse a 2 0 year old game

[OuterChimp]

Why do I always seem to get to the docks right after the boat just departed?

[magnetaress]

stop ruining quests on a 50 year old elf simulator because of EPeen and 1 guys ego

It is realllly petty. As if 2020 wasn't hard enough on humanity and didn't make enough people question anything.

I feel like the CIA is paying u to ruin elf lives.

also make red the classic server so these blubies and greenies can get on with their lives taking turns at the 50% gnoll scrolls.

[Castle2.0]

I think you got it backwards. I had this idea for a long time and yellow text is not the driver. If you check my sig, you'll see I kind of like to play the game outside the "box". I create my own goals and achievements.

Try setting some goals and achievements in real life and stop looking for ways to abuse a 2 0 year old game

Sorry to hear your level of productivity is so low you think having goals in multiple areas of life is a pipedream and mutually exclusive :eek:

guys, check out how good i am at abusing emulator mechanics in 2020 It's like when someone solves the Rubik's cube and say, "Wow that's amazing" then they explain there solutions to common Rubik's problems you can learn and memorize. You response to this amazing info you never knew before: "Oh, that's all."

I found the fastest way to go 1-60 from when you roll a toon to *DING* 60.

You're welcome (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4KTqce-9Z0)

;)

[Mendo]

Sorry to hear your level of productivity is so low you think having goals in multiple areas of life is a pipedream and mutually exclusive :eek:

It's like when someone solves the Rubik's cube and say, "Wow that's amazing" then they explain there solutions to common Rubik's problems you can learn and memorize. You response to this amazing info you never knew before: "Oh, that's all."

I found the fastest way to go 1-60 from when you roll a toon to *DING* 60.

You're welcome (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4KTqce-9Z0)

;)

Still waiting on the video proof that you found this

[Nagoya]

Excel ;) No pen, no paper, no toon switching. 21st century baby.

Also, I think this person missed the joke. I am starting to think the average joe lacks a sense of humor, whose mind must be prompted by a primetime TV laugh track.

no toon switching? so how did you verify on multiple toons? :confused:
what's the difference between 'pen & calc' and 'excel' - i'm obviously using excel as well dude - you're missing the point so much it hurts ^^;

and the old "it's a joke" defence will not work come on, you have started like 12 threads about this and you've been talking about this constantly for over 6 weeks now, you are being completely obsessed and obliterated by all this, you're in complete meltdown mode. i am the one suggesting you actually & finally get the irony and start laughing together with us, instead of just being laughed at. nobody really cares but you here. most people commenting aren't even playing the game xD

[Castle2.0]

Still waiting on the video proof that you found this

Might do one. Might not. Could be the Devs cheated everyone out of a great video.

If you're curious, go to Edverd Tommels in SQ and DM me on Discord with any name from "Scrollzaa to Scrollzz" -- example: Scrollzmq. That's 676 possible name combinations. I have them all. I'll log on a mule with that name and show you some gnoll scrolls ;) Maybe skip Scrollzza to Scrollzzz. I used those for testing, but the other 650 options are available.

You can check Wiki to see how much exp people got. I ran all the numbers. I had enough lightstones / greater lightstones to take an IKS NEC 1-28 then enough scrolls to go 28-60... until this change. Would have taken 4-7 hours. No one could go faster than this using a different method.

LevelUpLarry might have helped produce the video. Could have been a cool video. Maybe I'll write a simple thread detailing "what could have been."

I'm sure I'll find some use for these scrolls.

no toon switching? so how did you verify on multiple toons?
what's the difference between 'pen & calc' and 'excel' - i'm obviously using excel as well dude - you're missing the point so much it hurts ^^;

and the old "it's a joke" defence will not work come on, you have started like 12 threads about this and you've been talking about this constantly for over 6 weeks now, you are being completely obsessed and obliterated by all this, you're in complete meltdown mode. i am the one suggesting you actually & finally get the irony and start laughing together with us, instead of just being laughed at. nobody really cares but you here. most people commenting aren't even playing the game xD Excel keeps track of which toons have which scrolls. No need to log in. Not melting down, but I appreciate a good imagination. Maybe your projecting your own "if I was in his situation I would be X."

Google PeeWee Herman. Then you may begin to learn more of who is the legend "Mannastone" who also just so happens to be on a big adventure :D That's all the info you get.

People either get the joke and laugh with me, or don't get the joke and I laugh at them and at my own joke by myself. It's a win-win.

[Dabron]

"Classic isn't 50 accounts."

Rain Man Manastone is sad.

Sorry your pixel exploit was blocked by the GMS.

[strongNpretty]

Jeeeeez dude.....

[Castle2.0]

"Classic isn't 50 accounts."

Rain Man Manastone is sad.

Sorry your pixel exploit was blocked by the GMS.

Haha, 50 accounts. I guess there's 3 kinds of people in this world: those who can do math and those who can't.

1) No exploit.
2) Don't blame GMs. This was a Dev decision.

Linguistic laziness I tell ya!

[htabdoolb]

I guess I don't understand what the problem is with what Castle wants to do. If they're having fun stockpiling scrolls for months ahead of time so that they can turn them in all at once, why not just let them? It doesn't hurt anyone else, and it is honestly kind of interesting in an OMG OCD sort of way. Even them making dozens or hundreds of alt accounts to store the scrolls on isn't any sort of inconvenience for anyone, since the process to create accounts is all automated.

On the other hand, eliminating quest xp for an entire month really felt like a gut punch to those of us that have just started playing. CB belts, gnoll fangs, bone chips, etc. are all a nice way to either gain a few extra levels by turning them in or gain some decent early plat by selling them to others. Starting a new elf in the Greater Faydark and being told that CB belts are worthless really doesn't feel very classic or fun to me.

Literally no one is hurt letting Castle and others like him do massive amounts of quest turn ins, and lots of regular, low level casual players are hurt by disabling a fairly significant source of experience and plat. They only people who might, might be put out by it are the ones grinding and poop socking in an attempt to be first level 60 or first to loot thing X from mob Y or whatever. And those people just remind me of the losers who scramble put "First Post!" at the beginning of a thread, crowing about an utterly meaningless accomplishment that no one else cares one whit about.

Honestly, every time another [Achievement!] notification pops up in my chat box, I cringe. It's so very lame. I'm rather disappointed that quest experience was disabled in order to coddle and enable such inanity. The fact that I can't turn them off just bums me out.

[Gustoo]

Literally no one is hurt letting Castle and others like him do massive amounts of quest turn ins, and lots of regular, low level casual players are hurt by disabling a fairly significant source of experience and plat. They only people who might, might be put out by it are the ones grinding and poop socking in an attempt to be first level 60 or first to loot thing X from mob Y or whatever. And those people just remind me of the losers who scramble put "First Post!" at the beginning of a thread, crowing about an utterly meaningless accomplishment that no one else cares one whit about.

Honestly, every time another [Achievement!] notification pops up in my chat box, I cringe. It's so very lame. I'm rather disappointed that quest experience was disabled in order to coddle and enable such inanity. The fact that I can't turn them off just bums me out.

Agreed. I don't mind the achievement announcements. I just don't like derailing the whole classic experience of the game because of a few dudes.

On red99 they nerfed the money from the halfling smuggling and I think it was because on beta I ran boxed 20 halflings back and forth to pharm plat for practicing TRADESKILLS.

The $ per hour on this quest when boxing is not allowed is garbage, so there was no reason to nerf it, but nerf it they did. So now newbie halfings can't make a plat or two off this quest. RIP.

[Nagoya]

It's a win-win.

definitely a win-win for sure. you are having so much fun right now. always here to answer every single comment in within 30 mins. it's okay bro. you do you. good luck and everything.

you kinda ruined the fun for eveyone else tho, but this part is arguably not your fault, i must agree at least there.

PS: I don't think you understand your own words, "100% confirmed across multiple toons of various level/race/class combos" definitely implies that you switched toon to double-check. if not, then your own wording is bad or you are lying, don't put that on me.

[Castle2.0]

definitely a win-win for sure. you are having so much fun right now. always here to answer every single comment in within 30 mins. it's okay bro. you do you. good luck and everything.

you kinda ruined the fun for eveyone else tho, but this part is arguably not your fault, i must agree at least there.

PS: I don't think you understand your own words, "100% confirmed across multiple toons of various level/race/class combos" definitely implies that you switched toon to double-check. if not, then your own wording is bad or you are lying, don't put that on me. Forum Quest. It is the end game.

Misunderstood your message. I thought you meant switching to toons counting my scrolls :D

I tested on a 41 HFL DRU and 51 DEF NEC and calculated same exp per scroll on both. Friend tried on a 53/54 HUM RNG. Yes, I switched between 2 toons to test and talked with others.

[OuterChimp]

I popped on yesterday. I saw someone ding 60 as an SK. I thought that was pretty cool.

For a casual like me, so waht if someone corpsed a ton of scrolls. I agree with the folks saying it negatively affects a lot more folks who are casual than it does the hard-core achivement-ers racing to the top.

But on the same note, it's not my decision so I'm just happy they keep the servers running.

PST send tells please if you'd like to be my Miencraft friend.

[kjs86z]

Might do one. Might not. Could be the Devs cheated everyone out of a great video.

If you're curious, go to Edverd Tommels in SQ and DM me on Discord with any name from "Scrollzaa to Scrollzz" -- example: Scrollzmq. That's 676 possible name combinations. I have them all. I'll log on a mule with that name and show you some gnoll scrolls ;) Maybe skip Scrollzza to Scrollzzz. I used those for testing, but the other 650 options are available.

You can check Wiki to see how much exp people got. I ran all the numbers. I had enough lightstones / greater lightstones to take an IKS NEC 1-28 then enough scrolls to go 28-60... until this change. Would have taken 4-7 hours. No one could go faster than this using a different method.

LevelUpLarry might have helped produce the video. Could have been a cool video. Maybe I'll write a simple thread detailing "what could have been."

I'm sure I'll find some use for these scrolls.

Excel keeps track of which toons have which scrolls. No need to log in. Not melting down, but I appreciate a good imagination. Maybe your projecting your own "if I was in his situation I would be X."

Google PeeWee Herman. Then you may begin to learn more of who is the legend "Mannastone" who also just so happens to be on a big adventure :D That's all the info you get.

People either get the joke and laugh with me, or don't get the joke and I laugh at them and at my own joke by myself. It's a win-win.

seek help

[sajbert]

Haha, I love it. Castle getting cranked yet again.

Maybe the deva ARE reading your posts?

[cannobeers3]

Castle is such a twat. I guess I really didn't need to state that. But really, he's such a twat.

[jadier]

Haha, 50 accounts. I guess there's 3 kinds of people in this world: those who can do math and those who can't.

1) No exploit.
2) Don't blame GMs. This was a Dev decision.

Linguistic laziness I tell ya!

After all this, you’re still whining on the forums like an unrepentant tool. Unsurprising.

Since you brought up “linguistic laziness”: How exactly are you defining “exploit” such that your abuse of the free account system doesn’t count? Because you sure aren’t using any normal English definition preferred by the devs and, basically, everyone rational. Unless you think exploit only means software hacking?

Of course, maybe you made a donation to p99 each and every time you opened a new account. Knowing that would change my opinion of your antics entirely.

[reebit32]

Question:

I've never done this quest before, would it still be worth doing to level an alt or is that a no go.

[Castle2.0]

Fajbert, canonbeer, jaded, thank you for reading my posts, bumping them to the top and sharing your opinions. I enjoy reading them since they are very well thought-out.

How exactly are you defining “exploit” I am using the official definition listed in the rules on forums. You? Do you even know the definition?

Exploiting has to do with in-game issues. Account creation isn't an in-game issue. End of story.

Now if you think questing is exploiting then you need to understand.


Exploiting is a category of actions, it isn't normal actions taken to to some greater degree.

You can kill a mob 1 to 10,000 times. It never becomes an exploit.

You can quest 1 to 10,000 times. It never becomes an exploit.

Do you understand categorical versus degree? You are either pregnant or not pregnant. You can't be very pregnant or very unpregnant. It's categorical. You can be sleepy or not sleepy, you can also be a little sleepy or very sleepy - it's both.

Doing normal actions and repeating them to a higher degree is not exploiting.


Gotta save this one for future use of copy-pasta. People say don't feed the trolls, but when you got an endless vat full of copy-pasta. Bon apetit, I say.

Question:

I've never done this quest before, would it still be worth doing to level an alt or is that a no go. It's half of what it was so it's not as good. If you're not a druid or wizard, it might not be worth it. Check it out try turning them in. Do it 1 at a time. If you turn in all 4 you get a so-so item and exp only once.

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But fear not fellow elves. I am fighting for YOU. I have submitted a bug report. Just being the hero you need.

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[BiG SiP]

saddlesore

[drackgon]

I blame OP for this nerf. Clearly can spin it anyway someone wants. But buying scrolls and making idk how many accounts. Is a reason GMs/admins did this. Which sucks because now it impacts everyone. Clearly GMs/admins tired of certain people, and I get it. Can't ban them so get fed up with their BS and just nerf it.

[loramin]

I blame OP for this nerf. Clearly can spin it anyway someone wants. But buying scrolls and making idk how many accounts. Is a reason GMs/admins did this. Which sucks because now it impacts everyone. Clearly GMs/admins tired of certain people, and I get it. Can't ban them so get fed up with their BS and just nerf it.

It's human nature to want to blame a scapegoat, but the staff DID NOT have to respond to Castle's (or anyone else's) efforts by disabling quest XP for a month! Again, they could have simply limited quest XP, making it so that it doesn't matter how many accounts you have items on: they'd be worthless after you exceed the quest XP limit.

The only possible reason I could see for why they didn't is that such a fix would have taken a day or two longer to code, and they couldn't stand to let their sever firsts be ruined during that time, so they prioritized them over classic EQ ... and again that had everything to do with R&N, and nothing to do with Castle's, or any other player's, actions.

[drackgon]

I usually agree with you alot Loramin. They disabled the quest xp at lunch of green as well. So he wasn't the reason for that. He was the reason for the nerf. Knowing a player made 40 + accounts to cheese his way to 60.

[BiG SiP]

looks like we’re in their world now

[Castle2.0]

*some novel non-classic change* #NotClassic

I blame OP for this nerf. Clearly can spin it anyway someone wants. But buying scrolls and making idk how many accounts. Is a reason GMs/admins did this. Which sucks because now it impacts everyone. Clearly GMs/admins tired of certain people, and I get it. Can't ban them so get fed up with their BS and just nerf it.


I camped most of my scrolls
Loramin is correct that Devs make these decisions, not me
drackgon is correct it sucks on who it's impacting
I have the patience of mountains. It will delay, but not stop me


Drackgon, you sound like the kinda guy that would put 2x SSoY + FBSS on your lowbie ranger to cheese you way to level 20. Total exploiter. Not in the spirit of classic at all. I bet you even bound at firepots like everyone else *shakes head*

[cd288]

I usually agree with you alot Loramin. They disabled the quest xp at lunch of green as well. So he wasn't the reason for that. He was the reason for the nerf. Knowing a player made 40 + accounts to cheese his way to 60.

They reduced it. It wasn’t disabled at launch

[Scalem]

It's human nature to want to blame a scapegoat, but the staff DID NOT have to respond to Castle's (or anyone else's) efforts by disabling quest XP for a month! Again, they could have simply limited quest XP, making it so that it doesn't matter how many accounts you have items on: they'd be worthless after you exceed the quest XP limit.

The only possible reason I could see for why they didn't is that such a fix would have taken a day or two longer to code, and they couldn't stand to let their sever firsts be ruined during that time, so they prioritized them over classic EQ ... and again that had everything to do with R&N, and nothing to do with Castle's, or any other player's, actions.

You are like a broken record constantly crying about the Dev's not following ClAsSiC eVeRqUeSt. Waaa the top left says it! Waaa. This server will never be classic as much as you and everyone else like to cry about #notclassic. Why can't you just appreciate that P99 is the closest thing anyone will ever get to actual 1999 EQ and move on?

[Skarne]

You are like a broken record constantly crying about the Dev's not following ClAsSiC eVeRqUeSt. Waaa the top left says it! Waaa. This server will never be classic as much as you and everyone else like to cry about #notclassic. Why can't you just appreciate that P99 is the closest thing anyone will ever get to actual 1999 EQ and move on?

be prepared for paragraphs of response claiming he actually is appreciative and it is YOU who isnt!

[Tuljin]

What's "classic" is spirit of the rule vs. letter of the rule. The EQ devs would -never- have let somebody get to level 60 in a day on launch day because it would absolutely ruin the reputation of their product if the news ever got out. Nobody would have been able to sneak it past them, either.

Besides, to even have tons of accounts in the year 2000 would have cost tons of money and would have been absolutely impossible. The most hardcore EQ players that could box spent thousands on 2 fast computers, tons of money on a a cable internet connection at the time (and happening to live somewhere where that was even possible,) and paying $100 per month to have two gold accounts. How much money would enough accounts have cost? Would Sony -not- have instantly gotten hip to what someone was up to who was spending $2000 per month on 40 gold accounts? Would that have been allowed? The answer is....absolutely not.

Ultimately it is up the the P99 devs to decide what is "classic" and what is not and honestly this P99 is the best "classic" EQ experience you can find. Just as it was up to the devs at the time in the year 2000 to decide what was an "exploit" and what was not - regardless of whether or not the exploit was technical or a creative workaround (hence various item and quest nerfs) - the devs on P99 have chosen to exercise their right to do whatever the hell they want.

At the end of the day, Mannastone is -still- wasting his life here despite all this bellyaching, which is the most comical part of it all.

Devs putting the caybash on anything they consider an "exploit" regardless of letter of the law or spirit of the rule - and people subsequently very very "mad" about it - - - - - - #ClassicAF

[BarackObooma]

I turned in 100 a canine in FV as a 56 halfling druid and got about 40% of a yellow. That roughly equates to 20-25k per canine.

Corrupt guard bracelets (per Kunark) were 45k exp each. I'm betting if you were to turn them in now they'd be half of that. So I'm thinking canines and bracelets were the same exp per quest most like which would put canines about 22.5k now which matches.

Since gnoll scrolls have been found to be nerfed 50%, I'm going to deduce that all quests across the board for simplicity sake were nerfed 50%.

[loramin]

You are like a broken record constantly crying about the Dev's not following ClAsSiC eVeRqUeSt. Waaa the top left says it! Waaa. This server will never be classic as much as you and everyone else like to cry about #notclassic. Why can't you just appreciate that P99 is the closest thing anyone will ever get to actual 1999 EQ and move on?

Of course I appreciate it! I've been saying as much since before you made your first level one here.

But also, intelligent human beings are capable of holding multiple thoughts in their head. Thoughts like "playing P99 is fun", "I'm grateful that R&n allow me to have fun here" ... and thoughts like "R&N lied when they said that classic EQ was the thing that mattered most to them (since clearly speedrunning mattered more)".

It's a normal human reaction to be annoyed when someone lies to you ... even if that exact same person also has done nice things for you.

[-TK-]

100% confirmed across multiple toons of various level/race/class combos.

Shadow nerf. No patch notes. No justification. Not classic.

Have you tried telling the staff that you're really going through some hard times right now and this quest exp nerf might just be what sets you over the edge? I hear they are pretty receptive to that argument.

[Scalem]

Of course I appreciate it! I've been saying as much since before you made your first level one here.



Last I checked I’ve been here longer then you have.

[Sarkhan]

Pretty sure I saw Mannastone playing Rallospeck and his "buddy", smuggle, getting a PLed by him today in Kurns. Y'know, just running around one of the most popular newbie leveling zones with a summoned fire pet from guk slaughtering entire floors.

So he's back out on the world of Norrath doing "great" things.

[Tunabros]

Pretty sure I saw Mannastone playing Rallospeck and his "buddy", smuggle, getting a PLed by him today in Kurns. Y'know, just running around one of the most popular newbie leveling zones with a summoned fire pet from guk slaughtering entire floors.

So he's back out on the world of Norrath doing "great" things.

boxxing is not a joke

[Castle2.0]

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NEWSFLASH:
The quest was nerfed because 1 old comment from EverLore was found citing someone at 23 thinks they got 1/3 of a bub of exp. See this bug report: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373833

It had nothing to do with my heroic effort in becoming the #1 player to ever play EQ ever, across multiple parallel universes, fact-check-true, DM me for info on joining the fanclub.
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They reduced it. It wasn’t disabled at launch

Looks like we got a beta boy. Quest exp was 100% disabled across all quests for 30+ days. It wasn't reduced. Enjoy beta.

some silly stuff

If greedy Sony found someone paying $2000/month completing quests in EverQuest, they are going to stop them from questing to give up $2000/month???

Because stopping someone from questing in EverQuest is good for their reputation, but letting someone quest in EverQuest isn't.... Got it. Sony would never let anything as bad as someone subscribing to multiple accounts and doing LOTS of quests... lolol

BTW word is spelled kibosh.

I'm sorry you didn't get a manastone and are still complaining about pricing. I am still enjoying my time here, even if I am playing less these days. Keep my apartment in your head clean for me, I won't be moving out any time soon it seems. Thanks for the free rent.

Sarkhan, PLing is a part of the game. Make friends or make money. I suggest you make both.

Tunabros, if Sarkhan thought I was boxing, I am sure he would have been a hero and did exactly what I did in one of my heroic endeavors catching a cheater (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347232).

[Batty]

There's something supremely funny about the person endlessly complaining about "not classic" being exactly the kind of person that causes mechanics to be nerfed from classic.

[Thulian]

Dude a low level fire pet isnt going to change anything other then make you mad and jealous

its kurns tower it does not matter