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random_noob
12-07-2020, 10:01 PM
Not a happy player when I want to bank and there are 0 bank employees alive.

Cool?

Not cool?

Scalem
12-07-2020, 11:16 PM
Not a happy player when I want to bank and there are 0 bank employees alive.

Cool?

Not cool?

I petitioned the Black Lotus group in Qeynos and never heard back from the GMs. Took me close to 30 minutes of /ooc and pms to get them to stop for 5 seconds so I could bank.

Fammaden
12-07-2020, 11:18 PM
You can bank while they are engaged in combat too, unless he was going down super fast. Thought a lot of bankers had a ton of HP though.

Jibartik
12-07-2020, 11:47 PM
May their gods bless the brave heros trying to actually cleanse the land of whichever race they are not by destroying the city centers of their enemies.

Tunabros
12-08-2020, 12:01 AM
Especially Qeynos....

also it's also annoying when people kill entrance guards

how would the noobs survive if the guards aren't there to save them (like Kelethin!)

random_noob
12-08-2020, 12:18 AM
Yep, was in Qeynos. Yep, was the guild mentioned above.

Didn't realize /petition was a thing, I'll use it next time.

Scalem
12-08-2020, 12:24 AM
You can bank while they are engaged in combat too, unless he was going down super fast. Thought a lot of bankers had a ton of HP though.

That would be fine but they are pulling the bankers with pets instantly while sitting on top of the buildings/walls. Impossible to get up to them in time.

Vanin
12-08-2020, 12:31 AM
I've petitioned this and the response was it is ok for them to do as long as they are willing in some regard to work with players looking to bank. Pretty frustrating I avoided banking in Qeynos all together.

Zyth
12-08-2020, 12:36 AM
Black Lotus members doing something that negatively impacts the community? I am quite shocked.

Solusekro
12-08-2020, 12:38 AM
Most bankers are on a 6 min timer. As long as the person is polite and notifies people waiting for the banker or waits on them it seems that both parties could get along.

Jibartik
12-08-2020, 12:39 AM
Especially Qeynos....

also it's also annoying when people kill entrance guards

how would the noobs survive if the guards aren't there to save them (like Kelethin!)

This is the moral lesson, racism is annoying.

This was lost because designers thought killing bankers would be un fun.

Now we dont know that its bad to say you've ruined your lands, youll not ruin mine, because it makes banking annoying!

make all merchants EXP with loot tables for this moral tale to be told as intended by the great and powerful Brad.

Sabin76
12-08-2020, 01:36 AM
Black Lotus members doing something that negatively impacts the community? I am quite shocked.

It's literally every large guild in probably every city. I've seen at least 3 other guilds doing the same thing in Neriak regularly.

beh
12-08-2020, 01:50 AM
Occupy Qeynos

Nachtsuchen
12-22-2020, 04:56 PM
I've recently had friends join me here on Green, but several of them have expressed to me how they've considered switching to Blue or quitting P99 all-together because of how obnoxious this has gotten. Every time they go to bank, the bankers are dead. Sometimes, if they're lucky, the farmer will keep track when they're back up and will wait for them to do their transaction first. However, my friends are getting exceedingly exhausted having to wait around just to make a single transaction. One of my friends asked me why this isn't considered griefing, considering it's a comparatively important NPC, and I genuinely had no idea what to tell him. This is in Qeynos, where unless you're evil, you've only that one place to bank and nowhere else for miles and miles.

The fact I've potential friends I could be playing with, people who are entirely new to EverQuest, so close to quitting because people are so hungry for experience makes me extremely angry. What's so hard to simply leave one of the bankers alive? Could some of these powerlevelers please just chill and dial it back from 11 slightly? This seems like it's becoming quite an issue.

GreatWhale
12-22-2020, 09:12 PM
Why do they do this?

xmaerx
12-22-2020, 10:05 PM
It's classic. One of the few benefits of rolling a barb in Halas. :D

magnetaress
12-22-2020, 10:46 PM
Since when do bankers give exp or loot? They should poof like merchants and absolutely reck ur faction into criminal scum territory.

Nilstoniakrath
12-22-2020, 11:31 PM
I've recently had friends join me here on Green, but several of them have expressed to me how they've considered switching to Blue or quitting P99 all-together because of how obnoxious this has gotten. Every time they go to bank, the bankers are dead. Sometimes, if they're lucky, the farmer will keep track when they're back up and will wait for them to do their transaction first. However, my friends are getting exceedingly exhausted having to wait around just to make a single transaction. One of my friends asked me why this isn't considered griefing, considering it's a comparatively important NPC, and I genuinely had no idea what to tell him. This is in Qeynos, where unless you're evil, you've only that one place to bank and nowhere else for miles and miles.

The fact I've potential friends I could be playing with, people who are entirely new to EverQuest, so close to quitting because people are so hungry for experience makes me extremely angry. What's so hard to simply leave one of the bankers alive? Could some of these powerlevelers please just chill and dial it back from 11 slightly? This seems like it's becoming quite an issue.

Banker killers deserve a slow and painful death, imho

mcoy
12-23-2020, 01:26 AM
I've only run into this once so far (in Qeynos) and while I do disagree with the practice overall I will say that as soon as I zoned in I saw an OOC message informing me that the bankers would respawn in X minutes. I do thank them for that courtesy at least.

But yeah, I thought bankers and merchants gave no xp... If sober me remembers I'll comb logs when I wake up.

-Mcoy

Bearsnowls
12-23-2020, 01:42 AM
I agree, if it’s not illegal to kill them it should be. Ran into felwithe tons of times to the bankers dead.

plzrelax
12-23-2020, 07:56 AM
This is ridiculous, why can’t the bank just hire more tellers? I remember back when the bank had employees that would actually help you AND I was making 7%. What’s next, are they going to ask me for my ID too? I’ve been going to this branch for more than 20 years now.

Anxarcule
12-23-2020, 07:59 AM
I jumped in the Hole because I was never able to become a banker.

Noselacri
12-23-2020, 09:07 AM
Sorry you didn't become a banker.

zaldaben
12-23-2020, 10:19 AM
cant remember when but I am 100 percent certain on live bankers and merchants where removed from the exp/loot table for this very reason.

mcoy
12-23-2020, 10:38 AM
cant remember when but I am 100 percent certain on live bankers and merchants where removed from the exp/loot table for this very reason.

So, I'm seeing references to old-world merchants that used to be on beta-neutral faction giving no xp or drops, but nothing about the bankers.

A merchant you're KOS to won't attack but don't bankers attack on sight if your're KOS? Maybe we're remembering wrong and it was just merchants that didn't give XP? Other than merchants on their own factions like the goblin merchant and frost giants etc.

-Mcoy

OuterChimp
12-23-2020, 10:56 AM
I think KOS bankers won't attack you unless you /sit close by.

magnetaress
12-23-2020, 11:35 AM
you can get pretty close to them and they are generally greenish but i have accidently agrod the bankers in HHK once or twice, but I got better at it, and can bank in HHK, Erudin, and Akanon pretty safely. Never tried kelethin.

kjs86z
12-23-2020, 11:49 AM
Most bankers deserve death.

mrloki
12-23-2020, 12:17 PM
I like when noobs cant run to the guards in BB because they are constantly camped at Crossroads.

mcoy
12-23-2020, 12:35 PM
The point I was trying to make was that bankers behave differently. A merchant will never attack you even at scowling whereas bankers do. So, there are obviously some differences there. Do merchants give xp on P99 (regular beta-neutral ones I mean, not "a goblin merchant" or whatever)? If not, then it seems like it matches what I can find on forums from 2001 and it's just merchants that had the reward removed to discourage players killing them. I haven't found anything mentioning bankers being changed except people talking about the one in Kael and he's not a "beta neutral" banker.

-Mcoy

mcoy
12-23-2020, 12:37 PM
One positive - there are certain quests that you can't do without beta neutral faction and it appears that the only way to raise that (if P99 has disabled the bloodstone HHK turn-in like live did ~ 2001ish) is to have a GM reset it for you. So, at least banker slayers may have a slight disadvantage if they ever want to do the staff of the wheel or incandescent armor quests etc.

-Mcoy

Rikasha
12-23-2020, 03:57 PM
Does killing them over and over break the You may not disrupt the normal playability of a zone or area rule?

shaunyboyo
12-29-2020, 05:27 PM
Stop them killing the bankers, they just abuse you when you ask them to halt. Knave being one

adichi
12-29-2020, 05:36 PM
Stop them killing the bankers, they just abuse you when you ask them to halt. Knave being one

but muh exp

Sunderfury
12-29-2020, 05:55 PM
This will be addressed by the Devs here:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375217

mcoy
12-29-2020, 06:22 PM
This will be addressed by the Devs here:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375217

/applaud

-Mcoy

cannobeers3
12-29-2020, 07:30 PM
/applaud

Nachtsuchen
12-29-2020, 08:34 PM
This will be addressed by the Devs here:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375217

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kaizersoze
12-29-2020, 08:59 PM
you should instead give them 50 million hp and do AoW damage. and be uncharmable.

Tunabros
12-29-2020, 09:02 PM
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shaunyboyo
12-31-2020, 06:34 AM
Goldraven is killing them now

Nachtsuchen
12-31-2020, 01:03 PM
Goldraven is killing them now

It's not against the rules -- it's simply, most likely, that killing Bankers will become a moot effort. Also, if you were to report someone, there's another thread section for that.

That said, I look forward to the day the pixel-chasers let us humble citizens of Qeynos bank in peace.

shaunyboyo
12-31-2020, 01:26 PM
Its lame to kill bankers, nothing else to kill? play nice they said....you seen the long queues of plat laden monks in Qeynos crying?

Old_PVP
12-31-2020, 02:50 PM
Sounds classic to me. Now they need to bring back killing gate guards.