Can you bind at firepots still?

[Muchew]

?

[Nuggie]

No

[Tunabros]

No

no chain starting now

[douglas1999]

Why don't you just try to bind in timorous deep? It takes five seconds to get there. That would have answered your question

[adichi]

Nah they took that out a few days after, feels too much like PoP anyways...

Doesnt mean I didn't bind there ;)

[Tethler]

It was only in for 3 days or so.

[Eldini]

my alt was on the damn barge when it happened. rip, dark elf necro

[BiG SiP]

insiders only, sry

[Bristlebaner]

Pretty classic to nerf after 3 days. Oh wait...

[douglas1999]

Pretty classic to nerf after 3 days. Oh wait...

It's to counteract the fact that almost nobody knew what the firepots were originally, so not many people bound there. P99 devs didn't want the entire server bound at firepots, so this was their compromise. Even after such a quick nerf I'm sure there are more green players bound at fire pots than there were on live back in the day.

[BiG SiP]

you’re in our world now!
(LOL)

[Xandria]

They knew it was going to happen. They could have blocked that before opening kunark.
Once again it sounds more like it was left on for three days so their friends could go bind and then fudge the rest of the server or anybody that wasn't around yet.

[Zoolander]

I just don't understand why verant created the pots if ppl where not allowed to bind there.

I mean, who goes to oasis, waits for boat, and runs afterwards the whole zone south to the pots if he could get a port within 5 mins from a druid or wizard?

Mc`Quaid: ok, we got one dev. whos bored! go create the firepots noone will ever use!

[Disease]

They knew it was going to happen. They could have blocked that before opening kunark.
Once again it sounds more like it was left on for three days so their friends could go bind and then fudge the rest of the server or anybody that wasn't around yet.

Everybody was waiting for kunark to drop so they could bind every alt there. It was in game for 3 days on live and 3 days here.

[Videri]

People, please.

The original EQ devs created the firepot room as a cool little curio, not intending it to be a game-changing self-port machine. They didn't think "Everyone will bind here." When they found out people were binding there, they made the zone un-bindable.

The P99 devs follow the exact same timeline. It was nerfed on Green after 4 days (96 hours), just like it was on Red eight (?) years ago and on Blue ten years ago.

It is not some attempt to give favors to their friends and exclude others. I'd estimate thousands of characters were bound at the firepots on Green in those 96 hours. No one was excluded.

However, I do think they should have made an announcement on these forums at the moment of the opening of Kunark. I know some people were standing by waiting for Kunark to open so they could bind at the firepots, but they didn't get the memo. It's too bad.

However, the game goes on. I had a lot of fun on five different EMU servers before Green99 without binding a single character at the firepots.

[Videri]

Everybody was waiting for kunark to drop so they could bind every alt there. It was in game for 3 days on live and 3 days here.

Exactly.

However, it was a full 4 days. Kunark opened on a Friday night and firepot binding was removed on Tuesday night.

[Zoolander]

They didn't think "Everyone will bind here." When they found out people were binding there, they made the zone un-bindable.


so they either have been naïve or just trolls

[Tunabros]

no

[kjs86z]

consider blue

[Nuggie]

Firepot is a hassle anyways. Bind where you fight.

[Knuckle]

I just don't understand why verant created the pots if ppl where not allowed to bind there.

I mean, who goes to oasis, waits for boat, and runs afterwards the whole zone south to the pots if he could get a port within 5 mins from a druid or wizard?

Mc`Quaid: ok, we got one dev. whos bored! go create the firepots noone will ever use!

I imagine the original intention was a easter egg for people that had to journey out to bumfuck nowhere for epic npcs or faydedar and didnt anticipate players binding there at the time.

Edit: neriak pots I think were stated as an idea for evil races to easily get to faydedar and completely unrelated.

[Danth]

I imagine the original intention was a easter egg for people that had to journey out to bumfuck nowhere for epic npcs or faydedar and didnt anticipate players binding there at the time.

Even more than that, EQ was made during the 1990's "world simulator" era, not the newer "theme park" video game era. Norrath's supposed to be a high fantasy world where if you go far enough out into the wild areas of the world you'll find strange and wondrous things. There are deliberate enigmas. EQ was severely limited by its era's technology and was unable to fully realize the ideal, but the firepots represent one such remote point of interest. The notion that everything in the game has to have a clear purpose is a paint-by-numbers theme-park notion at odds with the world simulator concept.

Danth

[BiG SiP]

i took a memorable pilgrimage during live as a lowbie wizard to see this “magical” room deep in the ocean

awed at the first quad kiting wizard I ever saw @ raptors, thus cementing my fond adoration of TD as a neat place

[Gustoo]

Yeah I mean it is clear that the binding classes that weren't born with teleports were not intended to have teleportation abilities, which the firepots grant them.

Tough call for staff here.

Same with other stuff like whatever that bind affinity item is that mellees can use that drops for a while in kunark.

Classic thing to do would be to leave all nerfs in tact, IE next progression server would simply not have manastone, insta click pumice, bind in firepots, bind clicky, ETC.

Our staff went with a custom approach to try to give some classic legacy stuff that they don't think breaks the game too much.

[Ananka]

At least they kept in the four days. I spent the whole weekend trying to get an Iksar to level 12 and I barely squeaked in on time. My first time getting a bind at Tim's Deep. On live my main character was a bard and I had a level 12 magician but I found out about the bind spot on day 5 or 6. There was not a lot of sharing from the people in Beta.

[Videri]

Classic thing to do would be to leave all nerfs in tact, IE next progression server would simply not have manastone, insta click pumice, bind in firepots, bind clicky, ETC.

Our staff went with a custom approach to try to give some classic legacy stuff that they don't think breaks the game too much.

I believe the staff's stance is that the most classic approach is to replicate the classic timeline as faithfully as possible, including pre-nerf items and their nerfs. However, the playerbase's response to that creates the unclassic situation of legacy item proliferation... A tough choice indeed.

[BiG SiP]

the untimely bind nerf is one of the decisions i actually agree with
in the spirit of classicness

[Castle2.0]

You could bind at firepots recently, but someone dropped a large group of reavers on 'em and broke 'em

rip firepots

[Videri]

so they either have been naïve or just trolls

Oh yeah, original EQ devs were indeed naive. It was one of the first MMOs. Game designers weren't familiar with the way the player population would swarm over the world and find every possible way to exploit everything. I really think they didn't predict people would start to bind themselves at the Firepots - and only when players started to do so did the devs think ahead and realize eventually everyone would.

[BiG SiP]

never underestimate the power of stay at homes with a supply of hot pockets

[Lizard1]

At least they kept in the four days. I spent the whole weekend trying to get an Iksar to level 12 and I barely squeaked in on time. My first time getting a bind at Tim's Deep. On live my main character was a bard and I had a level 12 magician but I found out about the bind spot on day 5 or 6. There was not a lot of sharing from the people in Beta.

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