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The_Postman
11-06-2020, 08:20 PM
I just turned in 7 cb belts and did both felwithe to kelethin and kaladim to kelethin

I got all of the faction and other rewards just not the exp.

Another person had the same issue apparently. Its not a big deal was just curious.

dallow2345
11-06-2020, 09:55 PM
i didnt get any xp from bandit sashes in qeynos either, someone here was complaining about no xp from gnoll tooth turn in.

Furitor
11-06-2020, 10:03 PM
Looks to be no exp from any quest so far. I made a new character to test another quest out and there's zero exp.

cubiczar
11-06-2020, 10:04 PM
It may be intentional, the patch notes mentioned Edward Tommel hiding from Kunvid-19 for a month. He is the guy that does the gnoll scrolls from paw so it's possible they just disabled all big exp turn ins for the kunark release.

Might put a post in the bugs section anyhow though since they only mentioned the one turn in in the patch notes.

Gustoo
11-06-2020, 10:04 PM
This was implemented at server start because I guess it was seen as a haxxor way to power through levels for nefarious advantage.

I think the idea would be to use a guild full of people to pharm mega loads of belts and other EXP quest items to boost a druid or something to high level super fast which would allow that druid to power level the entire rest of the guild and also to be first / list guy on the manastone eyeball and sit there indefinitely until a billion years later when someone else catches up.

May be time to turn it back to classic and it would have been cool to just make the quest only doable like 20 times per toon somehow.


OH maybe it was turned off, and then turned back on to stop the race to level 60 iksar

Furitor
11-06-2020, 10:09 PM
Yeah I just tested Fabian strings... looks like an across the board change. Will be interesting to see how this works out for any of the newbie Iksar quests that are used to supplement levelling.

Furitor
11-06-2020, 10:14 PM
Huh.. interestingly quests aren't giving exp on blue either...

cubiczar
11-06-2020, 10:22 PM
Huh.. interestingly quests aren't giving exp on blue either...

Yeah could be a bug then if all of them got hit even on blue. Probably worth putting in a bug report.

dallow2345
11-06-2020, 10:46 PM
just announced one month of no quest xp

Zoolander
11-06-2020, 10:52 PM
I don't like this, at all.

Tethler
11-06-2020, 11:14 PM
Hahahaha, amazing.

+1 for Rogean

Castle2.0
11-06-2020, 11:18 PM
EverQUEST?

Tethler
11-06-2020, 11:19 PM
EverQUEST?

Yes, cause you can do them forever and not gain a level.

Castle2.0
11-06-2020, 11:21 PM
EVERquest. Got it.

DoodyLich666
11-07-2020, 01:16 AM
Oof, that hurts. I level slow with quests!

Baler
11-07-2020, 01:22 AM
Not Classic

So a certain number of players will abuse quests to get big exp gains. Not everyone should be punished for their knowledge of the game. They, N/R, have made other Not Classic changes in the spirit of keeping the FEEL classic and for the server's community health. I firmly believe this is an excuse to lighten the load of petitions rather than make anything feel classic.

Super disappointment and for the record Yes, I was prepared to level an iksar with some quests turn ins. But not super high, Just high enough to get out of FoB so I didn't have to deal with the nightmare that is FoB on launch.

:mad:

Tethler
11-07-2020, 01:47 AM
Not Classic

Just high enough to get out of FoB so I didn't have to deal with the nightmare that is FoB on launch.

:mad:

Dealing with the nightmare in FoB on launch is classic though.

Bluryu
11-07-2020, 01:56 AM
Not Classic

So a certain number of players will abuse quests to get big exp gains. Not everyone should be punished for their knowledge of the game. They, N/R, have made other Not Classic changes in the spirit of keeping the FEEL classic and for the server's community health. I firmly believe this is an excuse to lighten the load of petitions rather than make anything feel classic.

Super disappointment and for the record Yes, I was prepared to level an iksar with some quests turn ins. But not super high, Just high enough to get out of FoB so I didn't have to deal with the nightmare that is FoB on launch.

:mad:

At least you're not me. Had an account for years but finally decide to dive in and play for real. Make toon, work for days playing with others in crushbone. Save up lots of belts, all ready to do that huge turn in.... annnnnd this happens. Now I can't even play the game because I'm not going to throw all of these belts away, and I can't do anything with them clogging up all of my bank and bagspace. I can't even sell them, because nobody will buy them with this nerf in place. Honestly, I don't get it personally. The quests are part of the game. Like them, don't like them, its part of the game...

And I don't even get the rationale. Max level druids already exist... if people want to power level their guild with a max level druid, they don't need to turn in crushbone freaking belts and bone chips to do it. Honestly. The 'poopsockers' already have their power levels waiting for them, they don't need quests to do it. All this nerf does is grief new players. I can't even play the game now. Thanks, P99 devs. Maybe if there had been some kind of notice this would happen I could have done something different.

Anyway... /rant off I guess I'll go watch youtube for a month and hopefully that's all the nerf will be in place for. Ridiculous.

dallow2345
11-07-2020, 02:04 AM
im in wk doing bandits and still turning in sashes. While the xp would be nice im still happy with the pp.

hforheals
11-07-2020, 05:35 AM
aaa3

sajbert
11-07-2020, 06:47 AM
That’s nice for those whom have spent thousands on xp quest turn-in items to bump their iksars up. Wait, no it isn’t, it’s something they could have announced many months ago instead of disrespecting people’s time.

Is it even a bad thing that the iksar wave gets spread out a bit?

Oh well, I invested in an elemental brazier instead, because that’s classic but mass quest turn-in isn’t?

Zoolander
11-07-2020, 07:37 AM
so I keep informing newbies (non-iksars) killing gnolls in qeyhills and blackburrow and guess what? they are all pissed after I informed them since they don't know anything.

can we get at least some infos in the server welcome message at log in?

Oddbaal
11-07-2020, 12:41 PM
I don't like this, at all.

Lol. So fkn dumb if true (the picture) --- my quote didnt copy it
to stop people from power leveling lizards? hah

let us nerf the casuals as well to stop the neckbeards from already doing what they're gonna do!

Mirana
11-07-2020, 12:46 PM
Yeah this is pretty upsetting. Part of the fun for me is supplementing my exp via newbie quests - bone chips, scorpion pincers, and curscale armor. Kind of a downer that these won’t give exp :/

Baler
11-07-2020, 12:51 PM
Dealing with the nightmare in FoB on launch is classic though.

I had an IRL friend log onto my Level 50 druid alt. Transfer gear/spells, buff me and port me to commons.
Then they bound me at freeport and buffed me with some damage shield while I murdered the noob area.

https://i.imgur.com/lzkZWx3.gif

Knuckle
11-07-2020, 12:57 PM
I am curious how gimping all new players on the server and people that dont have the resources to powerlevel a iksar to level 30 in 18 hours are playing the game how it was intended?

Baler
11-07-2020, 12:58 PM
I am curious how gimping all new players on the server and people that dont have the resources to powerlevel a iksar to level 30 in 18 hours are playing the game how it was intended?

I agree, I was powerleveling people with my untwinked 50 erudite necro and getting better exp per hour results. I don't know what's taking people so long.

First iksar just hit 30, with a 130% exp modifier.
November 07, 2020 - 11:44:19 AM Level Badshaw was the first Level 30 Iksar
(server time)

Stonewallx39
11-07-2020, 07:02 PM
I love our devs and what they’ve done for the server. This was however hilariously misguided though, and with a little trust that 99% of people are adults could have been handled much better.

Tunabros
11-07-2020, 08:12 PM
this is why we can't have nice things

A1rh3ad
11-07-2020, 08:26 PM
NOT CLASSIC

Kowalski
11-07-2020, 09:57 PM
Derelict my balls

Sphynx87
11-08-2020, 01:09 AM
I haven't played on p99 for about 8 months and my highest level character is only in the 20's. I guess I'm not a die hard player but I still have fun. Came back to roll an iksar and not having quest xp like REALLY sucks, they already have an xp debuff, why throw this on top?

Baler
11-08-2020, 03:29 AM
All we need to do is powerlevel one of each iksar class to 60. Then they'll have no reason to keep the no exp quests.

If we band together and funnel exp into the mouths of these chosen iksar we can have exp quests back before the end of the week.

It's your move community. Complain on the forums for a month or move on the proactive solution.

quenyar
11-08-2020, 06:33 AM
So I finally got my daughter interested in Everquest and we're having a blast leveling in Crushbone - collecting belts and gaining xp. I teach her the ways of Norrath and instruct her to keep all CB belts for sweet extra XP gains in Kaladim - only to find that the devs disabled this key part of the game we all love (and hate).

So. Not. Classic.

/rewind

Exard3k
11-08-2020, 06:39 AM
Daughters in Everquest aren't classic either.

KainIIIC
11-08-2020, 12:55 PM
Yeah, started an Enchanter, grinded it out and am 26, and traveled to Firiona Vie only to find out there's no Breeze. Can't really alt with new characters either now. What's the point of playing until these things are added/fixed? What a waste of time.

Baler
11-08-2020, 01:07 PM
Yeah, started an Enchanter, grinded it out and am 26, and traveled to Firiona Vie only to find out there's no Breeze. Can't really alt with new characters either now. What's the point of playing until these things are added/fixed? What a waste of time.

Breeze isn't added at Kunark launch. If it's June 2000, That's about 2 months after kunark launch.
Shit's Classic.

Q: What is an EverQuest Progression Server?

An EverQuest Progression Server is a special server that launches with only the game's original zones and content. Additional content and expansions then unlock over time. This allows players to enjoy each era and expansion in order, similar to how the game evolved originally.

Xae
11-08-2020, 01:19 PM
I simply do not get turning off quest experience.

The launch of Kunark was always going to be a poor experience of new Iksar. Turning off quest XP simply made it far worse.

For what? What is so important about leveling lizards that was worth making the experience worse for thousands of player?

The first Iksar being PL'ed are already hitting 40. It isn't like this slowed it down one bit for the truly dedicated. It just slowed it down for everyone else.

Exard3k
11-08-2020, 01:38 PM
I simply do not get turning off quest experience.

The launch of Kunark was always going to be a poor experience of new Iksar. Turning off quest XP simply made it far worse.


I'm having a blast with my Iksar. Don't know what you are talking about.

Gorster
11-08-2020, 04:13 PM
I simply do not get turning off quest experience.

The launch of Kunark was always going to be a poor experience of new Iksar. Turning off quest XP simply made it far worse.

For what? What is so important about leveling lizards that was worth making the experience worse for thousands of player?

The first Iksar being PL'ed are already hitting 40. It isn't like this slowed it down one bit for the truly dedicated. It just slowed it down for everyone else.

You're forgetting a chunk of the game, the 50 to 60 race. Imagine a group of several people with, according to a guide, 50+ accounts worth of quest items stored up. Insta burn to 60 by just handing shit in, then immediately go claim the big camp(s) while everyone else is working toward 60. It isn't abount the lizards, it is about claiming the biggest cash camps and limited duration drop items for as long as possible which is best done with a very quick 60.

Sethius Marlowe
11-08-2020, 04:15 PM
I dunno. They basically probably looked at the situation and whoever came up with a greater nightmare scenario that was a better story teller probably won and here we are.

This is life, a game that is run by humans. Just like you or me.

The UNITED STATES PRESIDENT's lawyer, Rudy Guliani, who was the mayor of New York.. accidentally booked the Four Seasons Landscaping parking lot to do a press conference instead of the Four Seasons Hotel.

So. Think about that. Idiocy and mistakes happen no matter what. Well, not really as often for smart people, but, still, they happen.

Presumably they thought "shit if we don't remove quests people are gonna do (what I, Sethius, planned on doing) a bunch of quest turn ins and just skyrocket iksars to level 50. That's gonna be weird!

And somehow that was more important to them that that didn't happen that way then all the other ways. And they didn't really think about all the consequences to everyone else everywhere that wasn't planning on abusing the system.

So. Who knows.

And honestly. They'll probably read this post, cause why wouldn't they. And they'll realize that "Hey, we can just decide to backtrack and who cares" and turn quest exp back on in a day or two because they realize they made a mistake in the vein of not really preventing anything from happening.

Or. They won't.

Who knows. I acknowledge that it sucks for people to not have quest exp. That does seem dumb. But if I had to guess it was probably something to do with people skyrocketing to 60 with some weird quest exploit or plan rather than leveling up iksars quickly. Cause if a guild like found a way to turn in a bajillion whatevers at rollout and just instantly have all level 60's, then that would be a game breaker because they'd just crush and own content forever by having done so.

So, maybe that was their nightmare scenario. That Seal Team would have spent months farming up 23874928309 gnoll scrolls in anticipation.

Who knows.

Nomadic Plainswalker
11-08-2020, 04:59 PM
You're forgetting a chunk of the game, the 50 to 60 race. Imagine a group of several people with, according to a guide, 50+ accounts worth of quest items stored up. Insta burn to 60 by just handing shit in, then immediately go claim the big camp(s) while everyone else is working toward 60. It isn't abount the lizards, it is about claiming the biggest cash camps and limited duration drop items for as long as possible which is best done with a very quick 60.

This guy gets the problem EXACTLY right. Nothing at all to do with Iksars.

DoodyLich666
11-08-2020, 04:59 PM
I think that is totally correct. It makes sense that they wanted to prevent people from getting to 60 instantly. A month just seems like a long time to keep people from getting quest exp. Isnt kunark era less than a year?

quenyar
11-08-2020, 05:19 PM
I get that you would probably have people insta questing to 60. But completely removing XP gains from quests does seem like the lazy approach.

Why not go through the select few quests that people were expected to be "exploiting" for unreal XP gains to 60 and impose a level restriction (say below level 50) on XP gain? Or maybe that isnt possible from the quest code? Or maybe simply disabling those particular quests?

But I guess with the amount of time some people invest in this server - maybe even the bone chips quest in Kaladim would eventually make you 60, lol

Nocht
11-08-2020, 08:29 PM
I don't remember people hoarding low level quest drops to PL their iksar at launch. Seems classic to me.

Bagavan
11-08-2020, 11:10 PM
Which turn in quests were people going to exploit to get to 60 quicker? Tanned skins?

guggle
11-08-2020, 11:32 PM
Turned in 6 greater lightstones before I realized what was up