So it's November 6th...

[Mayge]

Any information on when kunark is actually going be released?

Will there be lists, and what items will be listed?

Has the list system changed at all?


Is TD going to allow binds or not?

[Videri]

Expect TD to allow binds, of course! That's what P99 does. Put in the stuff that was nerfed...leave it in for a while...then nerf it.

As to the rest, we are all awaiting an official announcement from server staff. Don't believe anything unless it comes from the staff.

[Mayge]

Expect TD to allow binds, of course! That's what P99 does. Put in the stuff that was nerfed...leave it in for a while...then nerf it.
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But its been said changes/differences that only existed a very short time won't be implemented.

[douglas1999]

I think many people will be very pissed if they don't allow TD binding out of the gate and I'd assume they generally want the playerbase to be happy, to the extent that's possible given their mission statement.

On the one hand, firepot binding is kind of like a poor man's PoK, and I personally thought PoK was the beginning of the end for what made EQ special. However firepots have many notable downsides compared to PoK; you can never bind anywhere else if you want to retain the ability to gate to them post-nerf, there are no velious gates because it didn't exist yet, you can potentially get chain killed by fay, and if you're a DE shadowknight it's kind of only good for quicker CR's since you can't gate anyway without a 1k potion. So it's not nearly as classic-breaking to the porting community as PoK books.

This has been my closing argument.

[Exard3k]

I think many people will be very pissed if they don't allow TD binding out of the gate and I'd assume they generally want the playerbase to be happy, to the extent that's possible given their mission statement.


It would only be for 4 days. What about all people on vacation right now? People taking a break? People at work not being able to play right now? Characters created in 5 days? People not knowing about it at all and learning about it later, etc. etc.

It's an unbalanced issue, exploitable only by the few. If it wasn't, there wouldn't be a need to remove bind opportunity at all. It's like PoK unlocked for first 1000 people to log in, screw everyone else who's late.

[greatdane]

I was waiting for the raft in Ro one night
When my eyes beheld an eerie sight
For the raft was full of sarnak spies
And suddenly to my surprise

They did the mash, they did the Kunark mash
The Kunark mash, it was a Dreadlands smash
They did the mash, it caught on in a flash
They did the mash, they did the Kunark mash

Behind the sarnaks were many beasts
Cruel lizardmen in search of feasts
And a whole new type of froglok toads
Beneath them living oozes flowed

They did the mash, they did the Kunark mash
The Kunark mash, it was a Dreadlands smash
They did the mash, it caught on in a flash
They did the mash, they did the Kunark mash

The scene was rockin', all were digging the sounds
The drums were banged by drolvarg hounds
Eight-legged drachnid kept the riff alive
With an elven singer from Firiona Vie

They did the mash, they did the Kunark mash
The Kunark mash, it was a Dreadlands smash
They did the mash, it caught on in a flash
They did the mash, they did the Kunark mash

A floating iksar in a flowing robe
Held in each hand a pulsing green globe
He said your dreams of seeing Kunark were true
For all of Kunark is coming for you

[douglas1999]

It would only be for 4 days. What about all people on vacation right now? People taking a break? People at work not being able to play right now? Characters created in 5 days? People not knowing about it at all and learning about it later, etc. etc.

It's an unbalanced issue, exploitable only by the few. If it wasn't, there wouldn't be a need to remove bind opportunity at all. It's like PoK unlocked for first 1000 people to log in, screw everyone else who's late.

Well that's why I detailed the ways in which it is not the same as PoK, but I take your point.

[Baler]

I really expect an announcement on the home page. It would be extremely poor form to just release a major expansion with no announcement.

In regards to binding in TD it should be possible for only the first few days of kunark launch then stopped.

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[Exard3k]

In regards to binding in TD it should be possible for only the first few days of kunark launch then stopped.


why? and why should it be stopped then?

[Baler]

why? and why should it be stopped then?

That's how it was during live kunark release.
Shit's Classic :)

unless I'm terribly mistaken on the length of time it was possible to bind there.

[JayDee]

why? and why should it be stopped then?

cause he has access to locket or doesnt have a melee character

[Baler]

cause he has access to locket or doesnt have a melee character

Oh I'm not trying to keep it a secret or cut people off from gaining access. It's not like that.

How long exactly was it possible to bind at firepots on live?

ps.Exard3k seems aggressive towards me today. He was schooled in another thread where he messed up the server time. So expect him to throw some flames my way or try to set me up for FQ fail.

[Exard3k]

That's how it was during live kunark release.
Shit's Classic :)

Well I dont know anyone from 2000 that actually did bind there because no one really knew that. So it's hardly a classic experience. And they fixed it rather quickly, because it was unbalanced on a large scale. If half the server population would have been bound there, Verant patch notes surely would look different.

I can only see negatives on allowing 3 days of binding there. Arguments see above.

Ok, there is an actual positive. People who manage to do it, get their special sudo pre-order/long term player exclusive and probably feel good about it. At the cost of everyone else. Purely for selfish reasons disguised as "it's classic".

I just want new players and new characters to have equal opportunities on green server. With TD binding, all new characters created in 4 days and after are 2nd class characters in terms of mobility.

[charmcitysking]

It's a pretty trite argument to say "nobody knew about doing this in 2000 so it's not really classic" - obviously people did know about it and bound there or they wouldn't have nerfed it after the fact.

There's always going to be imbalance and interesting player advantage tidbits about P99 - it's why people play here. If they wanted balance and pixel socialism they'd go play on another sever. You call it 'purely selfish reasons' and that's EXACTLY what it is. This server isn't for "new" players; it's for people who already know what they're getting when they open the package. The constant nerfing and adjusting of things is why the game overall went to shit and it's what this server is trying to avoid.

[Mayge]

Well I dont know anyone from 2000 that actually did bind there because no one really knew that. So it's hardly a classic experience. And they fixed it rather quickly, because it was unbalanced on a large scale. If half the server population would have been bound there, Verant patch notes surely would look different.

I can only see negatives on allowing 3 days of binding there. Arguments see above.

Ok, there is an actual positive. People who manage to do it, get their special sudo pre-order/long term player exclusive and probably feel good about it. At the cost of everyone else. Purely for selfish reasons disguised as "it's classic".

I just want new players and new characters to have equal opportunities on green server. With TD binding, all new characters created in 4 days and after are 2nd class characters in terms of mobility.

That's like everything else in the game. People who played before you got a chance to get stuff you didn't because no longer drops/changed/etc.


But binding in TD is really not that big of a deal, either. it ill serve you well for staying back home in the classic base of the game, but it's pretty useless in kunark and beyond when compared to the utility of being able to bind wherever you are hunting.

[Ravager]

Corpse runs are classic. Don't bind anywhere if you want a true classic experience.

[beargryllz]

Well I dont know anyone from 2000 that actually did bind there because no one really knew that. So it's hardly a classic experience. And they fixed it rather quickly, because it was unbalanced on a large scale. If half the server population would have been bound there, Verant patch notes surely would look different.

I can only see negatives on allowing 3 days of binding there. Arguments see above.

Ok, there is an actual positive. People who manage to do it, get their special sudo pre-order/long term player exclusive and probably feel good about it. At the cost of everyone else. Purely for selfish reasons disguised as "it's classic".

I just want new players and new characters to have equal opportunities on green server. With TD binding, all new characters created in 4 days and after are 2nd class characters in terms of mobility.

Let me guess, you want a Mana Stone when you re-roll another caster too, don't you?

[Coridan]

Well I dont know anyone from 2000 that actually did bind there because no one really knew that. So it's hardly a classic experience. And they fixed it rather quickly, because it was unbalanced on a large scale. If half the server population would have been bound there, Verant patch notes surely would look different.

I can only see negatives on allowing 3 days of binding there. Arguments see above.

Ok, there is an actual positive. People who manage to do it, get their special sudo pre-order/long term player exclusive and probably feel good about it. At the cost of everyone else. Purely for selfish reasons disguised as "it's classic".

I just want new players and new characters to have equal opportunities on green server. With TD binding, all new characters created in 4 days and after are 2nd class characters in terms of mobility.

This same argument can be used to say there should never have been manastones, ring of the deads, rubicite, jboots from najena and guise of the deceivers.

[Exard3k]

Let me guess, you want a Mana Stone when you re-roll another caster too, don't you?

Why would I? And why would I re-roll my character? No. Is this a thing now? They are tradeable, nothing about them is exclusive.



This same argument can be used to say there should never have been manastones, ring of the deads, rubicite, jboots from najena and guise of the deceivers.

True. But that's not the topic today. Although you can trade each of them, so no exclusivity. And I prefer SoW potions and red dyed plate over jboots and rubicite anytime. I dont think the others are a big deal either. I like legacy items, they tell stories....

[Baler]

Go in game and type /who all Oasis

[Nahilu]

i sit in front of
https://wiki.project1999.com/Roule

rdy to port to kunark.

[Exard3k]

i sit in front of
https://wiki.project1999.com/Roule

rdy to port to kunark.

killed him. Wiki doesnt say anything about spawn timers. Let's make Kunark more of a surprise. OOC went into enrage mode, had to break the tease a bit earlier than intended. I broke the silence in ooc despite 40 people there. Port spell party now going on in NK

[greatdane]

I sold some level 1 spells to him just to jebait the impatient masses.

[Exard3k]

I sold some level 1 spells to him just to jebait the impatient masses.

did you check whether he had the spells in stock a couple of minutes after that?