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Grumph
11-04-2020, 10:50 AM
Dearest Friends,

Although it’s clear as day now for all to see how exceedingly close we are to a resolution of our current predicament to anyone who has cast their eyes upon the UN recently.

I find it my civic duty to propose what will assuredly be the final momentous result of The 2020 Raid Suspension. And I’m honestly as personally surprised myself by it as all of you will certainly be.

Firstly: and observation. Look what happens. Anyone with two or more kids or two or more pets will recognize what natural scientists have conclusively posited on the competitive behavior of all animals under every kingdom or genus.

The larger rat, when wrestling with the smaller rat
Must let the smaller rat win one out of three.
... If he wants anyone to wrestle with him. Otherwise the smaller rat will quit playing and they might not even continue their friendship.

Only in the disconnected dualistic galaxy brain of a human would it appear honorable to be more vindictive and less conciliatory than a rat or other plain animal.

But I know that we few here are capable of a much higher consciousness than the common man. And it is plain now for us all to see the one server rule that would solve all of our problems:

If you win a target twice in a row then you concede the next spawn.


1) Find out a long term server wide rule for Tunare? Win two Tunares in a row = concede next Tunare

2) Come up with an agreement for Ring War? Win two Ring Wars in a row = concede the next Ring War

3) Petitions should only be for major violations? What’s there to petition? You win the last two CTs so sit this one out brosef.

4) A plan on how to deal with a contested rooted TOV? If a ToV target gets killed twice in a row by somebody then they concede the next spawn

5) Multiple forum petitions trying to get guilds in trouble for doing tactics that have been used for years? A tragic consequence of having never before achieved our final form: if you win a pair you concede the next

6) Hostility? Literally every animal that isn’t an anti social loaner is able to maintain long term relationships by following this one rule: if you win twice you concede the next.

7) Specific Raid Mob Rules: If needed? LMFAO we got one rule to rule them all! Win two concede one!


Project 1999 has historically followed a cruel and inhumane pattern:

One guild dominates and takes everything.
Other guild(s) get nothing and resentment builds.
Dominant guild gets lazy bored or whatever.
Other guild(s) start competing.
Dominant guild is shocked at loosing anything and resentment builds.
Petitions fly. GMs suspend everyone. Casuals get some chances.
Then the cycle repeats.

Friends. It is time. Time to break the cycle.
Winner take all attitudes hurts everyone’s feelings - even the winners - because like any retired sportsman can tell you: you can’t stay on top forever.

Win a mob twice, then concede the next spawn.

Then your only problem will be convincing the wife your not cheating on her.
And convincing your boss you are actually still getting work done.
Because your walking around in a good mood all the time.

isiah
11-04-2020, 10:56 AM
praying 4 u

hewopepweow
11-04-2020, 11:29 AM
But what about the vocal minority who only enjoy the game as a medium to troll and exlcude other players? Won't you think about their right to have fun?

indiscriminate_hater
11-04-2020, 11:49 AM
So guild #1 gets 2/3 of all spawns and guild #2 gets 1/3 of all spawns. How does that change anything?

hotkarlmarxbros
11-04-2020, 11:49 AM
Oh yeah, that's pretty clever. Like the olympics or sports franchises, typically when you win the championship twice you go easy the next time because participation is more important than competing.

Also, the whole officiating nonsense is clearly outdated as well. Should have the athletes work it out amongst themselves, and should they fail to do so, it's probably because all the athletes are toxic and awful and has nothing to do with pushing the boundaries of competition. It's really all coming together now, how were we so dumb to miss this.

hewopepweow
11-04-2020, 11:55 AM
Ah yes, comparing p99 players to professionally compensated athletes. I think we know where you stand on this.

Evets
11-04-2020, 12:00 PM
But I know that we few here are capable of a much higher consciousness than the common man.

The rats are smarter and more socially adept than the neckbeards locking down content especially when it's just released.

Cecily
11-04-2020, 12:13 PM
Quit comparing neckbeards to rats. Rats are capable of sharing.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/jailbreak-rat/

Tunabros
11-04-2020, 01:26 PM
enable pvp in raid zones

Hrothgar
11-04-2020, 02:01 PM
10 years in, it's like people are just starting to understand and vocalize these issues.
EQ, in its rawest form, is/was/will be toxic. That's why QoL improvements were made and implemented almost two decades ago!

unleashedd
11-04-2020, 02:10 PM
With free accounts and vpn widely available, how are you gonna enforce this? What is preventing Joe Neckbeard from having a toon in <Zerg City> and having an alt in <Cool and Normal> and still locking ALL raid content down for himself and his "friends"?

turbosilk
11-04-2020, 02:12 PM
There is no cure for substance abuse. Only a lifetime of recovery by abstaining.

feniin
11-04-2020, 02:15 PM
There is no cure for substance abuse. Only a lifetime of recovery by abstaining.

Praying for the OP.

Cecily
11-04-2020, 03:02 PM
With free accounts and vpn widely available, how are you gonna enforce this? What is preventing Joe Neckbeard from having a toon in <Zerg City> and having an alt in <Cool and Normal> and still locking ALL raid content down for himself and his "friends"?

I resent the fact that players here immediately brain storm loop holes in response to any change in the Matrix. GMs wouldn't allow that to happen on an organized large scale to circumvent a rule designed for sharing. It also sucks to raid in multiple guilds.

unleashedd
11-04-2020, 03:09 PM
You mean to say this DOESN'T already happen??? I don't even have a toon over 40, but I don't see a problem with having multiple toons on multiple accounts in various guilds. Also, HOW would the GMs prevent it from happening?

Cecily
11-04-2020, 03:15 PM
Things change once you're 40+. I've seen some shit. You don't know you weren't there, man.

Hrothgar
11-04-2020, 03:18 PM
The real problem is that... of the 100+ zerg armies that are on for any given 'big named' kill, it's a healthy blend of... at best... 30% play-makers and 68% warm bodies and 2% people just sitting there clicking random spells not actually being of any use or substance but collecting DKP and bidding all the same.

I kept, at best, a 70% RA during my 'p99 days', which isn't huge, but it's a lot for a working adult. Suffice it to say: I see a lot of warmbody head ass dudes in RNF that dont even come in top 20 on the parse that seem to act like they have a dog in this fight.

Tunabros
11-04-2020, 04:01 PM
honestly, instances would solve everything

but it will ruin the game

and cheapen the accomplishment

Cecily
11-04-2020, 04:01 PM
Your value as a player is not determined by your fucking parse.

Insincerely yours,

Cecily #1, 2, or 3 DPS rogue 2012-2016 (FE/TMO/Rustle)

Hrothgar
11-04-2020, 04:16 PM
Your value as a player is not determined by your fucking parse.

Insincerely yours,

Cecily #1, 2, or 3 DPS rogue 2012-2016 (FE/TMO/Rustle)

When 90% of the encounters are 1) Tank. 2) everyone on a shared cleric running spam CHs. 3) Make sure bard is in cleric group. Yes, yes your value to a RAID is your dps.

Wanna run 3-man or 2-man GWurm farms? Yeah, now we're talking about some actual playing of the game. Otherwise it's "everyone get on the shared rogue, shared cleric, and lets melt these dragons. Failure to achieve victory will result in more passive aggressive reminding of how many shareds were not logged in"

Cecily
11-04-2020, 04:31 PM
When 90% of the encounters are 1) Tank. 2) everyone on a shared cleric running spam CHs. 3) Make sure bard is in cleric group. Yes, yes your value to a RAID is your dps.

Wanna run 3-man or 2-man GWurm farms? Yeah, now we're talking about some actual playing of the game. Otherwise it's "everyone get on the shared rogue, shared cleric, and lets melt these dragons. Failure to achieve victory will result in more passive aggressive reminding of how many shareds were not logged in"

The guy who did 3,000 on the chatroom monster is triple the value of the guy who did 1k on the chatroom monster. Got it.

Hrothgar
11-04-2020, 04:40 PM
The guy who did 3,000 on the chatroom monster is triple the value of the guy who did 1k on the chatroom monster. Got it.

When the purpose of the game is to kill chat room monsters with a defined hit pool that emote things that can wipe a guild every X amount of seconds, or when other chat room monsters are due to respawn, yes.

Why am I explaining basic math to you? I generally like what you have to offer these threads?!?

Ripqozko
11-04-2020, 04:42 PM
Your value as a player is not determined by your fucking parse.

Insincerely yours,

Cecily #1, 2, or 3 DPS rogue 2012-2016 (FE/TMO/Rustle)

Skew was better purely based on his accent.

Cecily
11-04-2020, 04:47 PM
When the purpose of the game is to kill chat room monsters with a defined hit pool that emote things that can wipe a guild every X amount of seconds, or when other chat room monsters are due to respawn, yes.

Why am I explaining basic math to you? I generally like what you have to offer these threads?!?

If you have a 100 people on standby and they all contribute to killing a thing, they're equally valuable, because this is a game not a job. People who volunteer to spend more time playing the game are just people who volunteer to spend more time playing the game. Losers if I was the judging sort, but I'm a nice person.

Cecily
11-04-2020, 04:53 PM
Skew was better purely based on his accent.

Yeah but I could never get over a guy playing a girl character. Just weird imo.

Hrothgar
11-04-2020, 04:54 PM
If you have a 100 people on standby and they all contribute to killing a thing, they're equally valuable, because this is a game not a job. People who volunteer to spend more time playing the game are just people who volunteer to spend more time playing the game. Losers if I was the judging sort, but I'm a nice person.

I agree with you in principal, but this categorically just isn’t how it looks in today’s p99 - you and I, and anyone reading, know this.

Leadership calls out how much DPS the guild needs to sustain at certain intervals, feelings get hurt, and ultimately people are told the same things: don’t bring your SK, don’t bring your Mage, don’t need your Shaman - bring your DPS, or plan to hear bitching about you and your playing in discord and/or behind your back. This is reason(s) #1-19 of why people like me, who have donated money to the server and spent time making pals with folks, just get fed up and leave. Raiding is not a casual enterprise, and unless you’re an endgame tank, compétant healer, or enjoy looking at a mobs asshole all day, you’re often told “GiT gUD”

kjs86z
11-04-2020, 04:55 PM
When 90% of the encounters are 1) Tank. 2) everyone on a shared cleric running spam CHs. 3) Make sure bard is in cleric group. Yes, yes your value to a RAID is your dps.

Wanna run 3-man or 2-man GWurm farms? Yeah, now we're talking about some actual playing of the game. Otherwise it's "everyone get on the shared rogue, shared cleric, and lets melt these dragons. Failure to achieve victory will result in more passive aggressive reminding of how many shareds were not logged in"

https://i.imgur.com/K0re0kc.gif

MarauderOHHYEAH
11-04-2020, 05:43 PM
When 90% of the encounters are 1) Tank. 2) everyone on a shared cleric running spam CHs. 3) Make sure bard is in cleric group. Yes, yes your value to a RAID is your dps.

Wanna run 3-man or 2-man GWurm farms? Yeah, now we're talking about some actual playing of the game. Otherwise it's "everyone get on the shared rogue, shared cleric, and lets melt these dragons. Failure to achieve victory will result in more passive aggressive reminding of how many shareds were not logged in"


2-3 man gwurm farms? You sure you dont want to join kittens? We actually "play" the game lol

Hrothgar
11-04-2020, 05:46 PM
2-3 man gwurm farms? You sure you dont want to join kittens? We actually "play" the game lol

I got a few toons in Kittens, yeah you guys have been a fun bunch =)