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Skarne
11-02-2020, 05:31 PM
I just wanna say this wasn’t a good idea. You should let people raid at this point and if it’s on the players for the love of all that is McQuaid come to some ground rules and work out the details later. Just be nice jeeze.

indiscriminate_hater
11-02-2020, 05:36 PM
Cool post

Argh
11-02-2020, 05:37 PM
People who aren't suspended can raid.

Lostfaction
11-02-2020, 05:41 PM
The dumb move that killed blue. Couldn’t take 30 minutes to make a ruling on a petition that made any sense but can follow rnf posts all day.

strongNpretty
11-02-2020, 05:46 PM
People who aren't suspended can raid.

Amen to that! And ill still choose not to raid every.. single.. time!!

kaizersoze
11-02-2020, 05:47 PM
I just wanna say this wasn’t a good idea. You should let people raid at this point and if it’s on the players for the love of all that is McQuaid come to some ground rules and work out the details later. Just be nice jeeze.

As a person currently suspended, dont let them raid until its worked out. There are clearly issues in the "top" guilds. Look at how new AG tried to cannibalize Nemce for coming back and saying "I'm taking my guild back because you guys ruined it's reputation." It's one of the ONLY threads I've seen locked in a LONG time. Every week there was some dumbass starting a new thread about how one of the guilds is on their death bed or decimated the other in the cycle.

Work out the details later is how we got to where we are now, and clearly people can't be nice. The other guilds are doing just fine on their own.

Hotel
11-02-2020, 05:54 PM
As a person currently suspended, dont let them raid until its worked out. There are clearly issues in the "top" guilds. Look at how new AG tried to cannibalize Nemce for coming back and saying "I'm taking my guild back because you guys ruined it's reputation." It's one of the ONLY threads I've seen locked in a LONG time. Every week there was some dumbass starting a new thread about how one of the guilds is on their death bed or decimated the other in the cycle.

Work out the details later is how we got to where we are now, and clearly people can't be nice. The other guilds are doing just fine on their own.

ah yes, everyone is toxic but i

great way to move forward

dumbass

feniin
11-02-2020, 05:58 PM
6 more weeks of winter/raidban.

kaizersoze
11-02-2020, 06:04 PM
ah yes, everyone is toxic but i

great way to move forward

dumbass

We can keep this suspension going well into next year if you want. The ball is in your court :)

Hotel
11-02-2020, 06:08 PM
We can keep this suspension going well into next year if you want. The ball is in your court :)

i wonder who will be your officers then ;)

Nexii
11-02-2020, 06:08 PM
Let bards be bards, and let raiders raid

conoutoftrol
11-02-2020, 06:09 PM
Dragons are dying all is well in Norrath

kaizersoze
11-02-2020, 06:10 PM
i wonder who will be your officers then ;)

In Riot? Probably the same ones. AG on the other hand, dont know! I am curious who Neo Azure Guard will have as well. And will the raid suspension apply to old Azure Guard and Neo Azure Guard? These are the questions.

conoutoftrol
11-02-2020, 06:12 PM
My understanding is that if the guild name doesn't fit you must acquit

AG soon to be free

tyrant49333
11-02-2020, 06:19 PM
Gotta wait for November 6th. If Arcler comes out of his mom's basement and sees his neckbeard shadow we all get unbanned, if not its six more weeks

getsome
11-02-2020, 06:19 PM
Dust off an old alt.
Change your pc name.
Make sure eq installed on root directory.
Fire up vpn.
Go raid.

conoutoftrol
11-02-2020, 06:24 PM
Dust off an old alt.
Change your pc name.
Make sure eq installed on root directory.
Fire up vpn.
Go raid.

prolley need to spoof hardware identifiers too

Clazxiss
11-02-2020, 06:25 PM
Dust off an old alt.
Change your pc name.
Make sure eq installed on root directory.
Fire up vpn.
Go raid.

Wait, they can read your PC name on P99?

conoutoftrol
11-02-2020, 06:27 PM
Wait, they can read your PC name on P99?

sweet summer child
that is only the beginning of what they can do

getsome
11-02-2020, 06:39 PM
log in with a different username too

Croco
11-02-2020, 06:40 PM
Dunno what you're talking about, tons of raiding going on right now. Just got my st key and life is good!

Clazxiss
11-02-2020, 06:40 PM
sweet summer child
that is only the beginning of what they can do

Can you elaborate on this? I used to play EQ on my work laptop quite often.

Gorbok
11-02-2020, 06:47 PM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164472

SantagarBrax
11-02-2020, 07:24 PM
Gotta wait for November 6th. If Arcler comes out of his mom's basement and sees his neckbeard shadow we all get unbanned, if not its six more weeks

that's...pretty funny :)

Akg49
11-02-2020, 07:41 PM
Keep the ban! Teach the nerds! Gear the Kittens!

Ban ban ban ban ban :D

Hrothgar
11-02-2020, 09:26 PM
Ouch, the infinitely spawning dragons aren’t getting killed by my toon wearing all their loots!!! What ever shall I do?!

Dreenk317
11-02-2020, 09:33 PM
We can keep this suspension going well into next year if you want. The ball is in your court :)

So, as a riot member, are you admitting to prolonging the ban just to deny freedom and AG?

Jauna
11-02-2020, 09:38 PM
You should let people raid

This is your own fucking fault for keeping all your fucking alts in the same fucking guild who the fuck does this holy fucking shit.

SPREAD OUT YOUR ALTS
MULTIPLE DISCORD ACCOUNTS
MULTIPLE GAME ACCOUNTS
DONT LET OTHERS FUCKING KNOW WHO YOU ARE. This last one is actually pretty hard because sometimes you want lifelong friendships and shit but in the end its not worth it in the event of guild drama breakups or someone in a competing guild recognizing you

kaizersoze
11-02-2020, 09:39 PM
So, as a riot member, are you admitting to prolonging the ban just to deny freedom and AG?

Well if you read his reply to my comment, immediately going for the throat, it's kind of why we all got suspended to begin with my friend. You're not quite in the same boat, but perhaps the life raft floating away from that boat by obviously misconstruing what I said as Riot is just trying to deny AG / F loot when we're just as eager to raid as you, but all of us can't help but make snide remarks in RnF. As long as Ree / Neo AG and Riot want to all make jabs at each other, I'm 100% cools with all of us staying raid suspended.

Jauna
11-02-2020, 09:40 PM
Also multiple forum accounts.

kaizersoze
11-02-2020, 09:42 PM
Also multiple forum accounts.

Someone tell him. He doesn't know they can track all this lol. How do you think the RMTers get caught?

Convict
11-02-2020, 09:49 PM
sweet summer child
that is only the beginning of what they can do

ah first good chuckle ive had in a while reading this forum good stuff

Jauna
11-02-2020, 09:59 PM
Someone tell him. He doesn't know they can track all this lol. How do you think the RMTers get caught?

Ok.
If said character is in a banned guild and they leave to join another guild.. trouble.
sry you put all your eggs in one basket

kaizersoze
11-02-2020, 10:02 PM
Ok.
If said character is in a banned guild and they leave to join another guild.. trouble.
sry you put all your eggs in one basket

You realise that the raid suspension pertains to the accounts of said players too, right? If you dodge the raid suspension, you just get banned lol. They have way more information than you think they do. Why do you think your computer tries to stop p99 from running with virus protection and you needed to have it make exemptions? There's more than just the anti boxing stuff in there.

sydbarrett25
11-02-2020, 10:04 PM
This is your own fucking fault for keeping all your fucking alts in the same fucking guild who the fuck does this holy fucking shit.

SPREAD OUT YOUR ALTS
MULTIPLE DISCORD ACCOUNTS
MULTIPLE GAME ACCOUNTS
DONT LET OTHERS FUCKING KNOW WHO YOU ARE. This last one is actually pretty hard because sometimes you want lifelong friendships and shit but in the end its not worth it in the event of guild drama breakups or someone in a competing guild recognizing you

🤤

Jauna
11-02-2020, 10:09 PM
raid suspension pertains to the accounts of said players too, right?.

where does it say that the actual player themselves are banned
The only thing I can confirm is if you(character) leave a guild to join/make another guild is a no-no

Zoggren
11-02-2020, 10:34 PM
As a person currently suspended, dont let them raid until its worked out. There are clearly issues in the "top" guilds. Look at how new AG tried to cannibalize Nemce for coming back and saying "I'm taking my guild back because you guys ruined it's reputation." It's one of the ONLY threads I've seen locked in a LONG time. Every week there was some dumbass starting a new thread about how one of the guilds is on their death bed or decimated the other in the cycle.

Work out the details later is how we got to where we are now, and clearly people can't be nice. The other guilds are doing just fine on their own.

You've been an extreme partisan yourself this entire time. Maybe look in the mirror yourself.

feniin
11-02-2020, 10:38 PM
People can't even agree to the definitions of words to help clarify rules. Unless we go full bore on rotations this shit is going to continue until GMs make the rules themselves. 6 more weeks of winter/raidban.

turbosilk
11-02-2020, 10:42 PM
I just wanna say this wasn’t a good idea. You should let people raid at this point and if it’s on the players for the love of all that is McQuaid come to some ground rules and work out the details later. Just be nice jeeze.

5+ years of adding rules, constant petitions and raid guild bans state otherwise. Ban hammer the 1-3% toxic, sick in the head players mercilessly for as long as it takes for them to leave, because years of history has shown they won't change.

Jauna
11-02-2020, 10:42 PM
People can't even agree to the definitions of words to help clarify rules. Unless we go full bore on rotations this shit is going to continue until GMs make the rules themselves. 6 more weeks of winter/raidban.

I still vote for one mega GM controlled raiding guild. Only this guild can snag raid targets. /rolls only
Casual guilds get one week a month to play, 3 quakes a week for them to go nuts
Then back to regular mega guild raiding

This would remove the need for variance

adruidarkly
11-02-2020, 10:57 PM
This whole thing is fuckin funny, look at these fools squirm.

greasemonk
11-02-2020, 11:24 PM
Yall mother fuckers need Jesus

Vynsticus
11-02-2020, 11:30 PM
At least the GMs entertain us with memes in the UN channel... :��

Albanwr
11-02-2020, 11:59 PM
ah yes, everyone is toxic but i

great way to move forward

dumbass

this is why you can't have nice things

Kief
11-03-2020, 08:20 AM
Starts off bashing the staff almost immediately. Man - the level of sadness is just too thick around here. Can cut that shit with a chainsaw.

I'd suggest making your own server if you're going to bitch at them for reading the forums instead of answering petitions. Lmao.

kjs86z
11-03-2020, 04:55 PM
Been enjoying the vacation couldn't care less how long it lasts.

feniin
11-03-2020, 05:09 PM
6 more weeks of winter/raidban.

Akg49
11-03-2020, 07:37 PM
We're gonna be suspended for a few more weeks at least for sure. Talks sound like they are going backwards not forwards.

More Vulak for the Kittehs! YAY :D

Oddbaal
11-03-2020, 08:23 PM
It gonna be ok

Hrothgar
11-03-2020, 08:24 PM
Everyone’s 5th string “why not, I’ve never played a XYZ” alt in kittens is lookin pretty these days, eh?

Secrets
11-05-2020, 06:08 PM
Why not play TAKP where you don't have to compete and share pixels in order, as Brad intended?

conoutoftrol
11-05-2020, 06:10 PM
because i can't fuggin zoom out with my mousewheel

conoutoftrol
11-05-2020, 06:10 PM
and boxing is allowed

Hotel
11-05-2020, 06:11 PM
Why not play TAKP where you don't have to compete and share pixels in order, as Brad intended?

i think this quote aligns me with my narrative so i approve

Nuggie
11-06-2020, 02:59 AM
I'm a bit late to the thread, busy day.

About the topic of info they have, seems like I recall ages ago during the DDOS days that one of the staff worked for the Dept of Homeland security and called the MF'er at work. The shit stopped quick(also Rogean spent coin on DDOS protection, there was a pic he posted about how little bandwidth the DDOS attacks were taking of the total. It was laughable, but anyways.)

The P99 crew are some Sharp folks. You're in their world. Go ahead and try to break the rules. But remember that the data never goes away.

Hyjalx
11-06-2020, 05:36 PM
So what was the purpose of rooting the dragons? Now we gotta ban the 2 entities with 100+ people for weeks/months at a time, so others can even have a chance to see content. Cause lets be real, that has a part in this. If that was the point, this could have been done earlier to make guilds hash it out.

At least before, there was a chance in hell. Hard work. Learning pulls. Learning mechanics. Nobody has a chance now with them rooted. Zero.

Now it's just giant zerg vs giant zerg.

If I was one of the top 2 entities right now, I'd be brokering a deal not to ever petition each other again. Cause honestly, yall are on the same team right now.

Maybe the raid scene will get better when the zerg turns into 400+ neckbeards working together instead of 200+. How bout that?

Littul Jonn
11-06-2020, 05:51 PM
So what was the purpose of rooting the dragons? Now we gotta ban the 2 entities with 100+ people for weeks/months at a time, so others can even have a chance to see content. Cause lets be real, that has a part in this. If that was the point, this could have been done earlier to make guilds hash it out.

At least before, there was a chance in hell. Hard work. Learning pulls. Learning mechanics. Nobody has a chance now with them rooted. Zero.

Now it's just giant zerg vs giant zerg.

If I was one of the top 2 entities right now, I'd be brokering a deal not to ever petition each other again. Cause honestly, yall are on the same team right now.

Maybe the raid scene will get better when the zerg turns into 400+ neckbeards working together instead of 200+. How bout that?

This is a good point. I think the GMs were thinking, root the dragons, beef up the flurrys, makes a big guild take longer to kill to a dragon thus decrease the friction between competing guilds deconflicting them my time and space. What has happened though, is all the guilds have now formed into zergs and have the same problem as they did before.

So now instead of one or two guilds getting banned you have half the server pop on a ban. Honestly, I think the GMs need to come up with a system that works for them for petitions. Asking players to do it wont work in the same way you have referees in sports (I know, i'm comparing p99 to professional athletes, forget the BMI comparisons here for a sec).

There needs to be a neutral 3rd party to adjudicate disputes. Players can not be ass holes and that's valid, but at the end of the day someone else has to throw the penalty flag.

Hyjalx
11-06-2020, 05:54 PM
The raid scene was totally dismantled, along with every raiding guild that didn't have 100+. Now we are in a position where competition doesn't exist, and blanket bans are the only way for others to play. Back in the day, nobody would care if a guild was banned. People would join a good, unbanned guild as the banned guild fell apart. But 10% of the server population wasn't in 2 raiding entities..

At least some of ya guys get to see some sunlight, there is one positive.

Hotel
11-06-2020, 05:56 PM
no one wants to hear rational arguments for why rooted tov was the dumbest decision to ever happen on p99

they just want to experience the zone on their shadow knights

hobart
11-06-2020, 06:04 PM
So what died the last three weeks? And how long was it alive?

Hotel
11-06-2020, 06:05 PM
So what died the last three weeks? And how long was it alive?

toxic question, should extend the ban

Hrothgar
11-06-2020, 06:17 PM
What we're bumping into is the intersection of:
1) The only fun way for a lot of people to enjoy the server at this point is to engage the endless "roll of the dice" to get pixels and, more importantly, deny those pixels to others (see: the amount of people who /q the server and/or stop playing as much after a BiS loot)
And, 2) Classic EQ just isn't rewarding once you bump into 1) being your in-game experience.

Hotel
11-06-2020, 06:18 PM
What we're bumping into is the intersection of:
1) The only fun way for a lot of people to enjoy the server at this point is to engage the endless "roll of the dice" to get pixels and, more importantly, deny those pixels to others (see: the amount of people who /q the server and/or stop playing as much after a BiS loot)
And, 2) Classic EQ just isn't rewarding once you bump into 1) being your in-game experience.

nice you figured it out

thanks man!

Hrothgar
11-06-2020, 06:20 PM
nice you figured it out

thanks man!

It's fun when you're tanking raid mobs and do things like take your pants off, tho. That was a high point in my p99 life.

Clazxiss
11-06-2020, 06:29 PM
I'm a bit late to the thread, busy day.

About the topic of info they have, seems like I recall ages ago during the DDOS days that one of the staff worked for the Dept of Homeland security and called the MF'er at work. The shit stopped quick(also Rogean spent coin on DDOS protection, there was a pic he posted about how little bandwidth the DDOS attacks were taking of the total. It was laughable, but anyways.)

The P99 crew are some Sharp folks. You're in their world. Go ahead and try to break the rules. But remember that the data never goes away.

Would've loved to be a fly on the wall for that one. Script kiddies and wannabe hackers are the worst of the E-tough guys. They all turn to cowards when caught.