The true <Azure Guard> reestablished!

[Grumph]

In a stunning move, Nemce has announced his return to P99 blue.

And much like his noble ancestor Aragorn, he seeks justly to reclaim what is his.

The current stewards and members of the guild formerly known as <Azure Guard> shall soon be cast aside, like so many ring wraiths in the schemes of Saruman.

All Hail Nemce! The once, future, and forever true king of a guild now reforged like narsil:
<Azure Guard>

[Hrothgar]

And the crowd goes mild

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/Ej9dQLt.gif

[shuklak]

Just saw this on Al Jazeera.

[Baler]

I bet there are people in AG who don't know or have never even spoken to nemce.

I wish his mom would come back lead.

[Jauna]

When reading the title I thought AG was going to reform into another Color Guard guild. Green Guard because of the RBG television thing

[GinnasP99]

One time Nemce gave me 500 plat for summoning his corpse in WL. Good guy in my book

[LazyHydras]

I love for either <Kekw> or <Grats Not Up> but, hey, ya know. We can't all have nice things.

[bktroost]

One time Nemce gave me 500 plat for summoning his corpse in WL. Good guy in my book

For a true Azure Guardian, their debt is always paid. Once for any simple trade; twice for freely given aid; thrice for all insult made.

[tyrant49333]

Who are you again ?

[Maschenny]

For a true Azure Guardian, their debt is always paid. Once for any simple trade; twice for freely given aid; thrice for all insult made.

Can’t forget “and cast aside long time members for my narcissism.”

[LazyHydras]

For a true Azure Guardian, their debt is always paid. Once for any simple trade; twice for freely given aid; thrice for all insult made.

Yea, seriously, though, who are you and what do you have to do with this guild?

[bktroost]

Can’t forget “and cast aside long time members for my narcissism.”

I'm sorry you feel that way Maschenny. You are a wonderful person and I'm sure did many great things for the guild. During my time and after. And I'm sure you will do many great things under the new name.

[Trexller]

wasn't the original leader some wizard lady?

[LazyHydras]

I'm sorry you feel that way Maschenny. You are a wonderful person and I'm sure did many great things for the guild. During my time and after. And I'm sure you will do many great things under the new name.

Like we said. Who are you and why are you sweeping the rug out from under people who don't even know you?

[bktroost]

wasn't the original leader some wizard lady?

No, im the founder. Always was a mage. My mother also lead with me. She played a cleric.

[LazyHydras]

No, im the founder. Always was a mage. My mother also lead with me. She played a cleric.

Typical politician. Sidestepping the questions put before them.

[bktroost]

Typical politician. Sidestepping the questions put before them.

How can i help you, Mr. Iksar?

[LazyHydras]

How can i help you, Mr. Iksar?

The question was asked. Why do you come back in the 11th hour to reclaim a guild title that you have nothing to do with anymore in order to screw over people who literally don't know you?

[bktroost]

The question was asked. Why do you come back in the 11th hour to reclaim a guild title that you have nothing to do with anymore in order to screw over people who literally don't know you?

Azure Guard is currently functioning in a realm of hard core raiding and racing that it is largely new to the guild (the last year or two). In the six years I led, I created a strong association with the name as a leader of the casual players. The name Azure Guard is hotly burned into the minds of Devs and, frankly, with much animosity. Your point is very well made, however. "Why do I feel I have anything to do with the going ons of p99?" The guild Azure Guard has a duality of reputation at the moment. We are actively one of the top guilds on another server under the same name as a casual guild, which is straying from the brand that is being recrafted here on p99.

In short:

1. The Azure Guard on p99 will benefit in political conversations and particularly with Devs if they change their name to fit their role on the server as a leader in the hard-core realm. And may you be blessed with many pixels in your hunts! I wish you the best!

2. The reputation that exists on both servers, which is vastly different at the moment, will not be adversely affected or otherwise. A simple and clean split. As you put it, "what do I have to do with Azure Guard here." And the answer will now be, "absolutely nothing". Because in fact, they will be operating under a new name.

I feel no negativity towards the players in Azure Guard here. I hope you find great enjoyment on this server.

[Hotel]

Azure Guard is currently functioning in a realm of hard core raiding and racing that it is largely new to the guild (the last year or two). In the six years I led, I created a strong association with the name as a leader of the casual players. The name Azure Guard is hotly burned into the minds of Devs and, frankly, with much animosity. Your point is very well made, however. "Why do I feel I have anything to do with the going ons of p99?" The guild Azure Guard has a duality of reputation at the moment. We are actively one of the top guilds on another server under the same name as a casual guild, which is straying from the brand that is being recrafted here on p99.

In short:

1. The Azure Guard on p99 will benefit in political conversations and particularly with Devs if they change their name to fit their role on the server as a leader in the hard-core realm. And may you be blessed with many pixels in your hunts! I wish you the best!

2. The reputation that exists on both servers, which is vastly different at the moment, will not be adversely affected or otherwise. A simple and clean split. As you put it, "what do I have to do with Azure Guard here." And the answer will now be, "absolutely nothing". Because in fact, they will be operating under a new name.

I feel no negativity towards the players in Azure Guard here. I hope you find great enjoyment on this server.

this is why girls have daddy issues

[Pint]

Amusing news, thanks for the laugh

[tyrant49333]

Nemce midlife crisis playing out over p99 elf drama. Has no authority over his own real life so has to come flex on other adults in a 20 year old elf sim

[Daaz47]

posting itt

[Grumph]

Nemce is clear in his reasoning.

His conscious is clean.

<Azure Guard> has always been the most casual and family friendly guild it could be.

This is why charter members would have their DKP zeroed out and guild tag removed...

If they went 3 months without showing up to Prismatic Priest raids...

Because they had a baby.

[Dogma]

<Renamed Guard>

[Ripqozko]

Grats blood guard

[Jimjam]

I believe AG guild split / dramas have precedent.

Established action is to create a splinter force, preferably named after female sanitary products, up recruitment on both ends and then remerge.

https://i.imgur.com/LF6nVpe.png

Will this tradition be honoured?

[sydbarrett25]

Nemce midlife crisis playing out over p99 elf drama. Has no authority over his own real life so has to come flex on other adults in a 20 year old elf sim

u mad?

[sydbarrett25]

Grats blood guard

[LazyHydras]

Azure Guard is currently functioning in a realm of hard core raiding and racing that it is largely new to the guild (the last year or two). In the six years I led, I created a strong association with the name as a leader of the casual players. The name Azure Guard is hotly burned into the minds of Devs and, frankly, with much animosity. Your point is very well made, however. "Why do I feel I have anything to do with the going ons of p99?" The guild Azure Guard has a duality of reputation at the moment. We are actively one of the top guilds on another server under the same name as a casual guild, which is straying from the brand that is being recrafted here on p99.

In short:

1. The Azure Guard on p99 will benefit in political conversations and particularly with Devs if they change their name to fit their role on the server as a leader in the hard-core realm. And may you be blessed with many pixels in your hunts! I wish you the best!

2. The reputation that exists on both servers, which is vastly different at the moment, will not be adversely affected or otherwise. A simple and clean split. As you put it, "what do I have to do with Azure Guard here." And the answer will now be, "absolutely nothing". Because in fact, they will be operating under a new name.

I feel no negativity towards the players in Azure Guard here. I hope you find great enjoyment on this server.

Spoken like a true politician! We will somehow benefit from your vindictive and entirely unnecessary seizure of that which you, genuinely, do not own. The guild belongs to those who play in it. Despite what the GMs may think, you don't.

"A simple and clean split" are you barking mad? Azure Guard has been progressing, just like every other guild before it. Instead of just being happy that the players have taken that which you created to the next level, you are going to throw a hissy fit and take the name away because you don't like the fact that AG isn't a bunch of casuals anymore?

Now that's a laugh.

[Mickets]

"Straying from the brand", fuckin lol god damn it you nerds make me laugh.

[sydbarrett25]

Spoken like a true politician! We will somehow benefit from your vindictive and entirely unnecessary seizure of that which you, genuinely, do not own. The guild belongs to those who play in it. Despite what the GMs may think, you don't.

"A simple and clean split" are you barking mad? Azure Guard has been progressing, just like every other guild before it. Instead of just being happy that the players have taken that which you created to the next level, you are going to throw a hissy fit and take the name away because you don't like the fact that AG isn't a bunch of casuals anymore?

Now that's a laugh.

Hissy fit? He seemed to make a very classy post, intelligible, and well thought out. He wants his guild’s name back, big deal.

[Grumph]

Everyone’s thinking it.

I’m just gonna say it.

There aren’t enough twitch streams or YouTube channels offering interviews to TAKP guild leaders.

So of course it makes sense to shake some things up on blue to get back to doing those sweet sweet speaking tours (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDJTYoZbv8o).

Game recognizes game.

[Bellringer]

Azure Guard is currently functioning in a realm of hard core raiding and racing that it is largely new to the guild (the last year or two). In the six years I led, I created a strong association with the name as a leader of the casual players. The name Azure Guard is hotly burned into the minds of Devs and, frankly, with much animosity. Your point is very well made, however. "Why do I feel I have anything to do with the going ons of p99?" The guild Azure Guard has a duality of reputation at the moment. We are actively one of the top guilds on another server under the same name as a casual guild, which is straying from the brand that is being recrafted here on p99.

In short:

1. The Azure Guard on p99 will benefit in political conversations and particularly with Devs if they change their name to fit their role on the server as a leader in the hard-core realm. And may you be blessed with many pixels in your hunts! I wish you the best!

2. The reputation that exists on both servers, which is vastly different at the moment, will not be adversely affected or otherwise. A simple and clean split. As you put it, "what do I have to do with Azure Guard here." And the answer will now be, "absolutely nothing". Because in fact, they will be operating under a new name.

I feel no negativity towards the players in Azure Guard here. I hope you find great enjoyment on this server.

https://i.imgur.com/8bUHZl3.gif

[PL_Barton]

Can’t forget “and cast aside long time members for my narcissism.”

I agree with Maschenny.

I might have understood if you were coming back to P99 Blue but TAKP is its own world.

I had a lot more typed out but I thought....."if he thinks I'm not worth it, then neither is he".

[feniin]

I know Nemce is doing the right thing because a racist like Beef is upset.

[tyrant49333]

I know Nemce is doing the right thing because a racist like Beef is upset.

Look kids, a democrat! You see how it gets all upset and everything is racist? Dead give away.

[feniin]

Look kids, a democrat! You see how it gets all upset and everything is racist? Dead give away.

You make it too easy, babygirl.

[pogs4ever]

i guess i can stop saying "this wouldnt have happened if nemce was still here"

[PL_Barton]

i guess i can stop saying "this wouldnt have happened if nemce was still here"

You could still say it after every time AG kills a NToV mob.

[zszudy]

This all doesn't matter, yes it is a silly move as I'm guessing Nemce only knows AG from Forums and not what goes on in guild. It is still a guild for casuals, we just have a higher population because that is what is needed.
Nemce was a proponent of CSG and if still around would still be grouping with the 2 Omni and 10 Europa still around while AG does heavy lifting. One could say this pettiness of taking <Azure Guard> back is not in the true nature of AG....

[Grumph]

Nemce always thought hard core guilds who were putting epics on their 16th alt were unbalanced and must’ve enjoyed denying mobs and loot from others.

Make his triumphant return to p99...

To deny a guild tag from others.

It’s a tale as old as time.

Hurt people hurt people.

[bktroost]

You could still say it after every time AG kills a NToV mob.

Say what you want about me, but the officers and members of AG during my leadership worked hard and smart as a casual guild and we did get NToV loot. Certainly not as much as the hard core guilds, but still great achievements. We also equipped quite a few players with top end loot from Vulak, AoW and Tunare.

[Grumph]

...We also LOOT COUNCILED quite a few players with top end loot from Vulak, AoW and Tunare.

[PL_Barton]

Say what you want about me, but the officers and members of AG during my leadership worked hard and smart as a casual guild and we did get NToV loot. Certainly not as much as the hard core guilds, but still great achievements. We also equipped quite a few players with top end loot from Vulak, AoW and Tunare.

I agree about the hard work but sadly I don't remember the era in which CSG killed Vulak, AoW, or Tuna without a ban or alliance. My first AoW kill under AG was in 2016 with Rustle/Venerate. Maybe it was while I was on hiatus.

[bktroost]

Huh? I have never done a loot council. We always did a dkp bid. Most of my tenure it was a blind dkp bid...

Who hurt you?

[bktroost]

I agree about the hard work but sadly I don't remember the era in which CSG killed Vulak, AoW, or Tuna without a ban or alliance. My first AoW kill under AG was in 2016 with Rustle/Venerate. Maybe it was while I was on hiatus.

No, you are correct. I did not make a distinction in my post about CSG. My apologies for being unclear.

[LazyHydras]

Say what you want about me, but the officers and members of AG during my leadership worked hard and smart as a casual guild and we did get NToV loot. Certainly not as much as the hard core guilds, but still great achievements. We also equipped quite a few players with top end loot from Vulak, AoW and Tunare.

And what's your point? How does that justify what you're doing now?

[Awweshux]

" brand" . No.

[Grumph]

The point is really simple and clear. I don’t know how anyone could be confused.

His thought process goes like this:

Do you poop sock?
If yes then your hard core and a jerk.
If no then your family friendly and a nice guy.

Also:

Do you deny other guilds pixels?
If yes then your hard core and a jerk.
If no then your family friendly and a nice guy.

...and also:

Do you deny other people a guild tag?
If yes then your family friendly and a nice guy.
If no then...why not lmfao!

[Jesseca]

I bet there are people in AG who don't know or have never even spoken to nemce.

I wish his mom would come back lead.

I appreciate the support, but it would be difficult to lead two guilds at the same time, even for me. I am actively playing on takp, the stress free Norath. You are welcome to join me there if you choose. Anyone I know and is within good graces will get an instant invite to AG.

[Nuggie]

I'm not sure if you guys realize, but Nemce comes from a time on the server of relative "Sanity and Reason" or atleast his slice of the server was. Perhaps Nemce taking a leadership role again will help return to that. As opposed to what it is now, where 3 guilds can't control themselves and are raid banned without an end date. #Change

[sydbarrett25]

The point is really simple and clear. I don’t know how anyone could be confused.

His thought process goes like this:

Do you poop sock?
If yes then your hard core and a jerk.
If no then your family friendly and a nice guy.

Also:

Do you deny other guilds pixels?
If yes then your hard core and a jerk.
If no then your family friendly and a nice guy.

...and also:

Do you deny other people a guild tag?
If yes then your family friendly and a nice guy.
If no then...why not lmfao!

[LazyHydras]

So your suggestion, Nemcinator, is that people leave P99 to go to TAKP and say.....no I don't wanna join the AG here because of their reputation on P99 Blue?

L. O. L.


Moreover, what do you know about our reputation? Snippets you read on RnF? Stressful venting on Discord (where it's supposed to happen)?

You know nothing. And yet you want to take the entire name with you out of some pollyannaesque concern for "the brand" ? Get over yourself.

[LazyHydras]

I'm not sure if you guys realize, but Nemce comes from a time on the server of relative "Sanity and Reason" or atleast his slice of the server was. Perhaps Nemce taking a leadership role again will help return to that. As opposed to what it is now, where 3 guilds can't control themselves and are raid banned without an end date. #Change

A leadership role....where? He doesn't even play on this server for crying out loud. That's the most galling part about this whole thing.

[William_Munny15]

I don't play much at all, but this still sucks, when I do log in I always liked the Azure Guard tag by my head, especially being in the guild for like a decade. Just feels like a thing you'd do to completely turn your back and cut every tie with anyone still left on this server =( say it aint so! hehe but it is what is.

[Awweshux]

Also, Covid, election, raid ban; thanks for adding to the dislocation @Nemce. Fun times.

[Thaak]

I don't play much at all, but this still sucks, when I do log in I always liked the Azure Guard tag by my head, especially being in the guild for like a decade. Just feels like a thing you'd do to completely turn your back and cut every tie with anyone still left on this server =( say it aint so! hehe but it is what is.

Current leadership chose to be a parasitic host for Freedom, and the warm bodies chose to do nothing about it. It's kind of all y'alls fault.

[reznor_]

So what is the new guild name?

[sydbarrett25]

So your suggestion, Nemcinator, is that people leave P99 to go to TAKP and say.....no I don't wanna join the AG here because of their reputation on P99 Blue?

L. O. L.


Moreover, what do you know about our reputation? Snippets you read on RnF? Stressful venting on Discord (where it's supposed to happen)?

You know nothing. And yet you want to take the entire name with you out of some pollyannaesque concern for "the brand" ? Get over yourself.

I would tone down the immersion like 20%? Maybe take a step back.

[bktroost]

I'm not sure if you guys realize, but Nemce comes from a time on the server of relative "Sanity and Reason" or atleast his slice of the server was.

The idea that there is a forum that exists today where only three guilds are setting policy for the entire server is catagorically opposed to the server I envisioned. There were definitely times that AG could do raiding business without Omni and Europa, but we didn't want to push players into a world in which lots of poopaocking outside of prime time was necessary. The goal was never maximum pixels for AG. The goal was a server where all raid guilds had a shot at content based on their abilities. To that end, I was cool with losing pixels in order to open the door to more guilds having opportunity.

The raid rotations of hard-core/casual/FFA/ CSG negotiated was raid proposal that was brainstormed by all the casual guilds and presented by CSG. It created opportunity for all raid styles.

[PL_Barton]

https://imgur.com/a/LJZebyc

Figured the guild leader would be able to decide the name, not someone who left for greener pastures.

https://imgur.com/a/TxFbwiy

[LazyHydras]

Current leadership chose to be a parasitic host for Freedom, and the warm bodies chose to do nothing about it. It's kind of all y'alls fault.

Whomad?


Hemad.

[feniin]

Current leadership chose to be a parasitic host for Freedom, and the warm bodies chose to do nothing about it. It's kind of all y'alls fault.

Yep. If AG had maintained any level of leadership and direction Freedom wouldn't be leading them around by the balls

[bktroost]

I don't play much at all, but this still sucks, when I do log in I always liked the Azure Guard tag by my head, especially being in the guild for like a decade. Just feels like a thing you'd do to completely turn your back and cut every tie with anyone still left on this server =( say it aint so! hehe but it is what is.

I'll see what I can do about that.

[Jesseca]

I agree about the hard work but sadly I don't remember the era in which CSG killed Vulak, AoW, or Tuna without a ban or alliance. My first AoW kill under AG was in 2016 with Rustle/Venerate. Maybe it was while I was on hiatus.

I don't even know who those guilds are, you must have your dates wrong because I did not make the move over until 2017. We did kill Vulack once that I remember before I left

[PL_Barton]

The raid rotations of hard-core/casual/FFA/ CSG negotiated was raid proposal that was brainstormed by all the casual guilds and presented by CSG. It created opportunity for all raid styles.

Have you read the proposal by AG? We're easily the most level headed of the three with the inclusion of casual guilds. We're not in the business of denying anyone pixels, never have been.

[LazyHydras]

The idea that there is a forum that exists today where only three guilds are setting policy for the entire server is catagorically opposed to the server I envisioned. There were definitely times that AG could do raiding business without Omni and Europa, but we didn't want to push players into a world in which lots of poopaocking outside of prime time was necessary. The goal was never maximum pixels for AG. The goal was a server where all raid guilds had a shot at content based on their abilities. To that end, I was cool with losing pixels in order to open the door to more guilds having opportunity.

The raid rotations of hard-core/casual/FFA/ CSG negotiated was raid proposal that was brainstormed by all the casual guilds and presented by CSG. It created opportunity for all raid styles.

Policy for the server is set by the GMs. Anyone who wishes to actively compete for raid mobs is more than welcome to join the conversation. As it stands, only 3 entities compete for these raid mobs: Riot, Freedom, and the soon-to-be-defunct Azure guard.

I understand that you don't like to compete, but many of us do. What business is it of yours when you don't even play on this server? You can't go back in time, Nemce. It is also really stupid for you to attempt to do so from an entire EQ Emu server away.

[bktroost]

https://imgur.com/a/LJZebyc

Figured the guild leader would be able to decide the name, not someone who left for greener pastures.

https://imgur.com/a/TxFbwiy

I have no input in the new name, nor should I.

[LazyHydras]

I have no input in the new name, nor should I.

You shouldn't have input in pulling the old name, either. You ceded authority to Valick. You left your responsibility at the door and you want to take it back when you don't even play here.

https://i.imgur.com/gVZAIh1.png

[bktroost]

Policy for the server is set by the GMs. Anyone who wishes to actively compete for raid mobs is more than welcome to join the conversation. As it stands, only 3 entities compete for these raid mobs: Riot, Freedom, and the soon-to-be-defunct Azure guard.

I understand that you don't like to compete, but many of us do. What business is it of yours when you don't even play on this server? You can't go back in time, Nemce. It is also really stupid for you to attempt to do so from an entire EQ Emu server away.

Azure Guard has existed since 2000 on live and has primarily been run by my real life family. If you dont know me then you've had it less than 2 years. I've had it for nearly 20 years. Step away from the pulpit, you have no authority to preach on this subject.

[PL_Barton]

I don't even know who those guilds are, you must have your dates wrong because I did not make the move over until 2017. We did kill Vulack once that I remember before I left

I'm implying that AG did not kill Vulak, CSG did but not competitively.

As for the team up it was on 9-23-2016. You can check the site since you still have access.

[sydbarrett25]

Policy for the server is set by the GMs. Anyone who wishes to actively compete for raid mobs is more than welcome to join the conversation. As it stands, only 3 entities compete for these raid mobs: Riot, Freedom, and the soon-to-be-defunct Azure guard.

I understand that you don't like to compete, but many of us do. What business is it of yours when you don't even play on this server? You can't go back in time, Nemce. It is also really stupid for you to attempt to do so from an entire EQ Emu server away.

Are you an officer? You are literally talking to the formal leader of Azure guard

[Littul Jonn]

The idea that there is a forum that exists today where only three guilds are setting policy for the entire server is catagorically opposed to the server I envisioned. There were definitely times that AG could do raiding business without Omni and Europa, but we didn't want to push players into a world in which lots of poopaocking outside of prime time was necessary. The goal was never maximum pixels for AG. The goal was a server where all raid guilds had a shot at content based on their abilities. To that end, I was cool with losing pixels in order to open the door to more guilds having opportunity.

The raid rotations of hard-core/casual/FFA/ CSG negotiated was raid proposal that was brainstormed by all the casual guilds and presented by CSG. It created opportunity for all raid styles.

Haha you sound like Cloaki

I don’t think it’s possible for more then 2 or 3 guilds for compete in ToV due to rooted dragons, you just need too many people. People are the scarce resource now, not “skill”.

I hope you and the elf pals do cool things. Been fun keeping up with the server exploits from RNF. Best of luck to AG and my homies in Freedom and Riot :)

[feniin]

Policy for the server is set by the GMs. Anyone who wishes to actively compete for raid mobs is more than welcome to join the conversation. As it stands, only 3 entities compete for these raid mobs: Riot, Freedom, and the soon-to-be-defunct Azure guard.

I understand that you don't like to compete, but many of us do. What business is it of yours when you don't even play on this server? You can't go back in time, Nemce. It is also really stupid for you to attempt to do so from an entire EQ Emu server away.
You need to take a walk. Yikes.

[bktroost]

I'm implying that AG did not kill Vulak, CSG did but not competitively.

As for the team up it was on 9-23-2016. You can check the site since you still have access.

That is correct. Ruffel won the ranger sword. Valick won the earring. I believe an omni member won the warrior sword.

[LazyHydras]

Azure Guard has existed since 2000 on live and has primarily been run by my real life family. If you dont know me then you've had it less than 2 years. I've had it for nearly 20 years. Step away from the pulpit, you have no authority to preach on this subject.

I actually play here. What authority do you have? None. You gave the authority to Valick.

https://i.imgur.com/gz9i5jv.png

[LazyHydras]

Are you an officer? You are literally talking to the formal leader of Azure guard

He's not the leader, that's the whole point, lol.

[Littul Jonn]

I actually play here. What authority do you have? None. You gave the authority to Valick.

https://i.imgur.com/gz9i5jv.png

Didn’t he give it to Ruffle, who ghosted when CSG fell apart who dumped it on Hollowlung? :D

[LazyHydras]

Didn’t he give it to Ruffle, who ghosted when CSG fell apart who dumped it on Hollowlung? :D

I don't know the ins and outs. :P I just know that he isn't the guild leader and hasn't been for some time.

[feniin]

Valick and Hollowlung were supposed to co-lead. Now it's mostly just Lavittz and ex-BG leadership who are active (and subservient to Freedom)

[zszudy]

You shouldn't have input in pulling the old name, either. You ceded authority to Valick. You left your responsibility at the door and you want to take it back when you don't even play here.

https://i.imgur.com/gVZAIh1.png

He's correct about everything there. I miss Nemce2018 (unless it was 2017) a wiser less petty man.

A lot of AG has only been in AG, whether it be with Nemce or after. Most of us including myself came for the casual no forced raiding, which still goes on today. Our current leaders have been trying to give the smaller guilds more chances. If one of the top guilds does not agree to it what is AG to do? Just give that guild that won't agree a free chance?

[LazyHydras]

Valick and Hollowlung were supposed to co-lead. Now it's mostly just Lavittz and ex-BG leadership who are active (and subservient to Freedom)

You really don't like Freedom, huh?

[Ripqozko]

Best thread in a long time, God bless. Subscribed

[PL_Barton]

Didn’t he give it to Ruffle, who ghosted when CSG fell apart who dumped it on Hollowlung? :D

Not really Littul. It went from Nemce to Valick, and then when CSG kinda got rocky cause of loot distribution they made Ruffel temp lead, who had RL issues which caused him to ghost. Then came Hollow.

[LazyHydras]

Best thread in a long time, God bless. Subscribed

https://i.imgur.com/xKZiGs2.gifD

[Jesseca]

I'm implying that AG did not kill Vulak, CSG did but not competitively.

As for the team up it was on 9-23-2016. You can check the site since you still have access.

I am the administrator for the site and always have been. U don't, just "have acess". If there was hate in me (there is not) it would just take a push of a button to wipe it all away.

[zszudy]

I feel bad for the GMs that have to deal with this while getting paid nothing. Transferring all those toons to a new guild tag....oof.

[bktroost]

I actually play here. What authority do you have? None. You gave the authority to Valick.

https://i.imgur.com/gz9i5jv.png

I gave Valick the leader role whie we were working out the details. I gave authority to Grizluk and Meah who, about two days later, changed their minds. I then gave authority to Ruffel who stopped playing a few months later. I then came back to give authority to Hollowlung. He kept on board for a while.

Not that you need to be aware of this, but for about 6 months after I left I worked as an outside consultant for Sirken reviewing raid petitions. As you know, he didn't raid himself so he didn't have a lot of insider info on how things were being manipulated. I never reviewed peitions involving AG for obvious bias reasons. During that time he told me that there were more raid petitions in that 6 months on AG than the entire 6 years i was leading.

I brought that info to the current AG leadership, which was strongly being run by Heebs and Valick and Hollowlung to a minor level, though he retained the title. I tried to give advice to them and was removed from the website. They said they were leaving behind the casual way and didn't need/want to play nice anymore. I truly did ghost then for a year and a half, which brings us to today. So ive kept up with what is going on from a pretty detailed level. The assumption that I've made a vindictive move based on your enemie's RnF posts is false.

[LazyHydras]

I feel bad for the GMs that have to deal with this while getting paid nothing. Transferring all those toons to a new guild tag....oof.

https://i.imgur.com/01ElIVX.gif

[bktroost]

I feel bad for the GMs that have to deal with this while getting paid nothing. Transferring all those toons to a new guild tag....oof.

it's a simple registry swap. There pull a single file and rename. I checked with them on this.

[PL_Barton]

I am the administrator for the site and always have been. U don't, just "have acess". If there was hate in me (there is not) it would just take a push of a button to wipe it all away.

Come off the high horse ma'am. I'm aware you are the admin hence is why I said "you still have access". I was just pointing you to where you could find proof of my claim.

[Hotel]

You could still say it after every time AG kills a NToV mob.

[Ripqozko]

I for one am looking forward to lavittz training wyverns under the blood guard tag again.

[reznor_]

You mean crimson guard

[Ripqozko]

You mean crimson guard

Roll tide

[LazyHydras]

<Navy Guard> inc

[Littul Jonn]

Not really Littul. It went from Nemce to Valick, and then when CSG kinda got rocky cause of loot distribution they made Ruffel temp lead, who had RL issues which caused him to ghost. Then came Hollow.

Ahh that must have happened when I was in Omni haha

[LazyHydras]

it's a simple registry swap. There pull a single file and rename. I checked with them on this.

You know what's also simple? Minding your own business on TAKP, lol.

[zszudy]

I for one am looking forward to lavittz training wyverns under the blood guard tag again.

Sadly, we can't go use Blood Guard as Manasana owns that. Though I would doubt even he would pull something this silly.

[Nuggie]

I guess I'm confused. Nemce wants the name removed from the current group of raiders but not to lead the(or a seperate) guild on P99?

[zszudy]

I guess I'm confused. Nemce wants the name removed from the current group of raiders but not to lead the(or a seperate) guild on P99?

Correct.

[PL_Barton]

I guess I'm confused. Nemce wants the name removed from the current group of raiders but not to lead the(or a seperate) guild on P99?

Sounds correct from my interpretation.

He doesn't want to be associated with a guild that went from casual to competitive. He believes we've sunk too low to be worthy of the tag. As such he petitioned the GMs to force us to do a name change.

[Dreenk317]

I guess I'm confused. Nemce wants the name removed from the current group of raiders but not to lead the(or a seperate) guild on P99?

Apparently, his guild on TAKP is to casual to be associated with a non super casual guild with the same name, that is older, and on a different server that he has nothing to do with anymore.

[Grumph]

The point is really simple and clear. I don’t know how anyone could be confused.

His thought process goes like this:

Do you poop sock?
If yes then your hard core and a jerk.
If no then your family friendly and a nice guy.

Also:

Do you deny other guilds pixels?
If yes then your hard core and a jerk.
If no then your family friendly and a nice guy.

...and also:

Do you deny other people a guild tag?
If yes then your family friendly and a nice guy.
If no then...why not lmfao!

[getsome]

You know what's also simple? Minding your own business on TAKP, lol.

Mind your tongue peasant, you can be wiped away with a push of a button.

[Littul Jonn]

Lol is this really the reason? Has something changed where people from TAKP are getting confused with p99 players? Lol nobody thinks of Nemce as p99 AG guild leader as he hasn’t played there for years. Pretty sure if you start a company, then transfer leadership, you don’t get to come back years later and say you don’t like how successful they’ve been and change the name of the company.

But hey, it’s P99, so I guess you can right? Lol

[PL_Barton]

Lol is this really the reason? Has something changed where people from TAKP are getting confused with p99 players? Lol nobody thinks of Nemce as p99 AG guild leader as he hasn’t played there for years. Pretty sure if you start a company, then transfer leadership, you don’t get to come back years later and say you don’t like how successful they’ve been and change the name of the company.

But hey, it’s P99, so I guess you can right? Lol

Sadly that is not the world we live in. Nemce thinks we've gone into the business of denying casuals pixels and has come back to enact revenge and deny us our tag.

I'm outta RNF juice, c yall later.

[Nuggie]

Lol is this really the reason? Has something changed where people from TAKP are getting confused with p99 players? Lol nobody thinks of Nemce as p99 AG guild leader as he hasn’t played there for years. Pretty sure if you start a company, then transfer leadership, you don’t get to come back years later and say you don’t like how successful they’ve been and change the name of the company.

But hey, it’s P99, so I guess you can right? Lol

If you own the majority of shares you can nearly do whatever you please. (not that this applies to this particular situation)

[Fammaden]

So take note other long running guilds, you can lose your identity at any time on a whim. I know DB is not being led by the founder, is Kittens? How would you dudes take it if some rando came around after eighteen months of ghosting and forced a name change on you because he made the guild again on live or P2002 and doesn't like you anymore. Could the original founder of Dial a Port come ruin their branding and marketing on a whim now?

Wacky ass server rule GM's but its your box.

[LazyHydras]

Lol is this really the reason? Has something changed where people from TAKP are getting confused with p99 players? Lol nobody thinks of Nemce as p99 AG guild leader as he hasn’t played there for years. Pretty sure if you start a company, then transfer leadership, you don’t get to come back years later and say you don’t like how successful they’ve been and change the name of the company.

But hey, it’s P99, so I guess you can right? Lol

The Wilponz brothers tried doing that to Steve Cohen when they first proposed the sale of the Mets to him. "Yea, we'll sell you the team, but we still get to make decisions." Then he walked away and they realized that in no reasonable world is that an acceptable arrangement.

However, this is not RL. This is just elf pixels. So that kind of thing flies, I guess. :)

[LazyHydras]

So take note other long running guilds, you can lose your identity at any time on a whim. I know DB is not being led by the founder, is Kittens? How would you dudes take it if some rando came around after eighteen months of ghosting and forced a name change on you because he made the guild again on live or P2002 and doesn't like you anymore. Could the original founder of Dial a Port come ruin their branding and marketing on a whim now?

Wacky ass server rule GM's but its your box.

Allio is, technically, still in DB but i don't think he really plays anymore. But, by this logic, yea, Allio could decide that he doesn't like the direction DB is going in and tell the GMs that Ponder needs to start a new guild that isn't DB. Can't imagine that happening, though, since Allio is a really good guy and wouldn't pull this crap.

[feniin]

You know what's also simple? Minding your own business on TAKP, lol.

Yikes. Maybe you should go back to Dawn Believers.

[Nuggie]

If i created something great, died, and some assholes ruined my legacy I'd totally come back and haunt the degenerates.

[Dreenk317]

Allio is, technically, still in DB but i don't think he really plays anymore. But, by this logic, yea, Allio could decide that he doesn't like the direction DB is going in and tell the GMs that Ponder needs to start a new guild that isn't DB. Can't imagine that happening, though, since Allio is a really good guy and wouldn't pull this crap.

All I heard for years was how great of a guy Nemce was..... Just saying

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

10/10 best thread in months

[LazyHydras]

All I heard for years was how great of a guy Nemce was..... Just saying

https://i.imgur.com/tLgOmbF.gif

[Awweshux]

"During that time he told me that there were more raid petitions in that 6 months on AG than the entire 6 years i was leading." Might be b/c the zerg guild dealt in petition quest. The world changed. Doesn't mean AG were cheating. Once certain ppl realized they could gain pixels and concessions!! via lawyerquesting, the rules changed.

[Awweshux]

And once AG decided to Lquest back in response, instead of simply conceding, this ban happened. The bullied kid finally hit back and the teacher put 'em both in the corner. Fun stuff.

[Nuggie]

For us outsiders, please answer how in the Hell you've come to this situation. Wasn't Riot created by a ton of casuals to overcome AM's stranglehold on the server? How did they become the bad guy after completing said mission? And how does anyone ally with the old AM leadership? What -have- you done with yourselves?

[Fammaden]

"During that time he told me that there were more raid petitions in that 6 months on AG than the entire 6 years i was leading." Might be b/c the zerg guild dealt in petition quest. The world changed. Doesn't mean AG were cheating. Once certain ppl realized they could gain pixels and concessions!! via lawyerquesting, the rules changed.

Yeah it means they were actually killing raid mobs for a change or trying to, and the sever bullies didn't like it.

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

For us outsiders, please answer how in the Hell you've come to this situation. Wasn't Riot created by a ton of casuals to overcome AM's stranglehold on the server? How did they become the bad guy after completing said mission? And how does anyone ally with the old AM leadership? What -have- you done with yourselves?

from what i can tell AM fell apart and now claims to be the oppressed little guy... they are using AG for numbers to get back on top and will eventually ( probably now ) steal most of AG's raiders and try to return the server to AM style pixel denial rule

[Dreenk317]

For us outsiders, please answer how in the Hell you've come to this situation. Wasn't Riot created by a ton of casuals to overcome AM's stranglehold on the server? How did they become the bad guy after completing said mission? And how does anyone ally with the old AM leadership? What -have- you done with yourselves?

Its literally the story of p99. This is the umpteenth iteration.

People look at the current top guild and see them as "denying" everyone else. Because its "to hard" to compete. Eventually they begin competing and winning and the guild hierarchy shifts. Then they become the "deniers".

This iteration of the rotation of guild dominance is al ittle different becuase the advent of green server created quite a vaccuum for some time. And Riot emerged as the top dog. Nearly uncontested on most mobs on the server for months. Then they split due to politics and freedom was born. Freedom wanted to stick it to daddy. and Daddy wanted to stick it to freedom, NO REBELIOUS CHILDREN AQLLOWED, REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freedom and AG band together to contest riot, riot REEREEEEEEEESSSSS like crazy because theyve never had to deal with this before. They are now contested, AND losing mobs!?!?!?! People must be cheating, petition everything, pray something sticks, there is no downside to throwing petitions, we dont get in trouble for crying wolf!!! So petition moar!!!!

And we are now where we are today.

[feniin]

from what i can tell AM fell apart and now claims to be the oppressed little guy... they are using AG for numbers to get back on top and will eventually ( probably now ) steal most of AG's raiders and try to return the server to AM style pixel denial rule

This is about the best tl;dr you can get on the situation.

[Littul Jonn]

Anyone have that meme of AM killing guilds? Someone please update it with Nemce killing Azure Guard lol

[feniin]

Its literally the story of p99. This is the umpteenth iteration.

People look at the current top guild and see them as "denying" everyone else. Because its "to hard" to compete. Eventually they begin competing and winning and the guild hierarchy shifts. Then they become the "deniers".

This iteration of the rotation of guild dominance is al ittle different becuase the advent of green server created quite a vaccuum for some time. And Riot emerged as the top dog. Nearly uncontested on most mobs on the server for months. Then they split due to politics and freedom was born. Freedom wanted to stick it to daddy. and Daddy wanted to stick it to freedom, NO REBELIOUS CHILDREN AQLLOWED, REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freedom and AG band together to contest riot, riot REEREEEEEEEESSSSS like crazy because theyve never had to deal with this before. They are now contested, AND losing mobs!?!?!?! People must be cheating, petition everything, pray something sticks, there is no downside to throwing petitions, we dont get in trouble for crying wolf!!! So petition moar!!!!

And we are now where we are today.

Yep. It's Riot that's the problem. Not Freedom and people like this. :o

[fastboy21]

One of the most important things a leader can do, when his time as leader is over, is to disappear. Doesn't matter what organization, real life or p99.

[Dreenk317]

I remember how proud they used to be, recruiters being all like "AG, longest living guild on the server!"......

[Dreenk317]

Yep. It's Riot that's the problem. Not Freedom and people like this. :o

My point is, its always been the same, its the same people, under new tags. Literally, been like this for the existance of the server. You start contesting, you start getting petitioned, doesnt matter what your guild tag is.

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

My point is, its always been the same, its the same people, under new tags. Literally, been like this for the existance of the server. You start contesting, you start getting petitioned, doesnt matter what your guild tag is.

can someone remind me of the definition of insanity?

[Ripqozko]

None of this would of happened if A-Team didnt get epix.

[Dreenk317]

can someone remind me of the definition of insanity?

id say a riot is quite insane

[Hrothgar]

Lol’d at someone saying riot was formed from casuals. Any raid guild is formed by hardcores, and warm bodied by casuals.

[fastboy21]

I remember how proud they used to be, recruiters being all like "AG, longest living guild on the server!"......

When would this have been true? Right after Divinity peaced?

[LazyHydras]

One of the most important things a leader can do, when his time as leader is over, is to disappear. Doesn't matter what organization, real life or p99.

Agreed.

[bktroost]

When would this have been true? Right after Divinity peaced?

Seems right.

[bktroost]

One of the most important things a leader can do, when his time as leader is over, is to disappear. Doesn't matter what organization, real life or p99.

If i had taken the name with me, I would have. But yes, I agree with this statement in principle.

[Dreenk317]

Do you have actual intention of playing here again Nemce? Or are you just mad that AG has moved on and become a different sort of guild than when you left?

[Incubo]

I don't personally know Nemce but I can understand his stance that something he built up is being badmouthed by the server for perceived bias (casuals and zergs alike). AG stepped up and confronted the zerg on the server and are taking the heat.

I guess what Nemce may or may not understand is that in order to get somewhere, you need to stick your neck out sometimes, you can't stay on the sidelines your entire life. And thats what AG did, all while following all the server rules and being respectful and responsible people on the server.

We can't control the riot zerg knee-jerk reactions to petition everything we do because they can't stand the competition. So Nemce's stance that if we didn't confront the Zerg, we wouldn't be banned, true, but it would be a sad day in Norrath to let the zerg win every mob, every time.

[elwing]

Who's this nemce guy already?

[Dreenk317]

So nemce, when someone made fun of your shoes when you were a kid, did you go "Your right!!" and cry to your mom for new shoes? Or did you realize someone making fun of your shoes was stupid and ignore them?

[Ripqozko]

Does AG get to circumvent the raid ban now that they are under a new name?

[Argh]

Welcome back Nemce, and thanks for the spicy rnf.

[Hotel]

For us outsiders, please answer how in the Hell you've come to this situation. Wasn't Riot created by a ton of casuals to overcome AM's stranglehold on the server? How did they become the bad guy after completing said mission? And how does anyone ally with the old AM leadership? What -have- you done with yourselves?

the only stranglehold is in your head

unrooted dragons was a beautiful place with 3 guilds competing for vulak every week, inb4 lul trainnsssss

rooted dragons and their horrible mechanics (remember before they even patched guards) just made the game not fun for players who would rather log into classic wow or green instead

furoar beat us a lot in kael but at the end of the day if the patch didnt happen this server would be a much different place

[Nuggie]

@elwing, read back about 10 pages. No need to repost.

@Dreenk317, That's a pretty unfitting analogy. Shoes don't have anything to do with someone's legacy(unless you're Micheal Jordan).

[Dreenk317]

@elwing, read back about 10 pages. No need to repost.

@Dreenk317, That's a pretty unfitting analogy. Shoes don't have anything to do with someone's legacy(unless you're Micheal Jordan).

Hes back and wanting the name because of "badmouthing". He doesnt even play here, it does not effect him. I thought it to be a fair analogy. Someone made fun of something of his that should not matter, and he ran crying to mommy

[Jesseca]

Do you have actual intention of playing here again Nemce? Or are you just mad that AG has moved on and become a different sort of guild than when you left?

I may, the future is uncertain as no one can disagree.

[Ripqozko]

Hes back and wanting the name because of "badmouthing". He doesnt even play here, it does not effect him. I thought it to be a fair analogy. Someone made fun of something of his that should not matter, and he ran crying to mommy

mommy helped him

[Dreenk317]

I may, the future is uncertain as no one can disagree.

So, thats a very beat around the bush way of saying no. And i still dont see why you care so much.... How does AG on p99 effect AG on takp, takp has like 36 players at peak.

And how do you not think its a dick move?

[LazyHydras]

If i had taken the name with me, I would have. But yes, I agree with this statement in principle.


You just did, ya tosser.

[Capi]

This is the stupidest shit I've ever seen.

[Dreenk317]

This is the stupidest shit I've ever seen.

idk, i once watched a kid snort wassabi, and this was AFTER the jackass movie made it look very painful. Thats prolly the stupidest shit ive ever seen

[gutterbrain]

This truly makes me sad. I never had the opportunity to actually play with Nemce or Dulas, I joined probably a month after they left, but throughout my entire tenure in the guild, I have heard nothing but good things about the two. I heard so much about how they viewed Azure Guard and the honor and dignity they valued in upholding. Azure Guard has always existed with these values, even when there are periods of negative energy, by the end of the drama cycle, we come out the same positive, helpful, and honorable guild every time. Hell our desire to continue to please the casual base of our guild and the casual spirit of it's founders has caused multiple periods where the guild has fractured (like when a lot of our core raiders jumped ship to Aftermath/Riot when Riot was formed).

It's disappointing to see such a petty action being taken without due diligence. I can only assume this is the result of a nostalgia bender bringing you to the RnF forums, where you somehow thought it was a reasonable resource for all knowledge about the current state of the guild.

I hope you apologized to Mignonette and Valick and Octaveous and the other leaders who have done everything they can to preserve the values you enshrined only to have it pulled out from under them for the sake of internet vanity.

shaking my damn head.

[Capi]

idk, i once watched a kid snort wassabi, and this was AFTER the jackass movie made it look very painful. Thats prolly the stupidest shit ive ever seen

Haha...Awful

[Jesseca]

So, thats a very beat around the bush way of saying no. And i still dont see why you care so much.... How does AG on p99 effect AG on takp, takp has like 36 players at peak.

And how do you not think its a dick move?

Takp is much smaller yes, but to say 36 players at peak is laughable. The damage of reputation leaks to takp, regardless of tou not wanting to admit that people play both or cross over because they too are si k of the toxicity of p99. I wish it were not the case. I was proud to not only say Azure Guard was the longest standing guild on p99 (after divinity left) , but also say we had 2 active Azure Guards across 2 servers.

[Dreenk317]

Takp is much smaller yes, but to say 36 players at peak is laughable. The damage of reputation leaks to takp, regardless of tou not wanting to admit that people play both or cross over because they too are si k of the toxicity of p99. I wish it were not the case. I was proud to not only say Azure Guard was the longest standing guild on p99 (after divinity left) , but also say we had 2 active Azure Guards across 2 servers.

And you are crushing the truth of both statements, single-handedly.

[LazyHydras]

Takp is much smaller yes, but to say 36 players at peak is laughable. The damage of reputation leaks to takp, regardless of tou not wanting to admit that people play both or cross over because they too are si k of the toxicity of p99. I wish it were not the case. I was proud to not only say Azure Guard was the longest standing guild on p99 (after divinity left) , but also say we had 2 active Azure Guards across 2 servers.

It's nothing to be ashamed of, just admit that you care more about yourselves than the people who actively play in AG on P99. No need to keep pussyfooting around the real reason.

[Detoxx]

To be fair, being a "top guild" on TAKP just means you rotate with the other 3 guilds. Also, don't you rely on an alliance over there too to kill stuff? Its one thing to ally with people to compete in a zerg meta but when its rotated content, needing an alliance to kill stuff would mean you aren't a top guild?

Not sure I guess, I dont know all the details but thats my rationale on rotated vs. non rotated tiers of guild progression.

[feniin]

To be fair, being a "top guild" on TAKP just means you rotate with the other 3 guilds. Also, don't you rely on an alliance over there too to kill stuff? Its one thing to ally with people to compete in a zerg meta but when its rotated content, needing an alliance to kill stuff would mean you aren't a top guild?

Not sure I guess, I dont know all the details but thats my rationale on rotated vs. non rotated tiers of guild progression.

NAG is hardly an alliance. It's one guild with two guild tags. One discord, one chat channel, one dkp system, one leadership team.

[Nuggets]

Not that you need to be aware of this, but for about 6 months after I left I worked as an outside consultant for Sirken reviewing raid petitions. As you know, he didn't raid himself so he didn't have a lot of insider info on how things were being manipulated. I never reviewed peitions involving AG for obvious bias reasons. During that time he told me that there were more raid petitions in that 6 months on AG than the entire 6 years i was leading.



AG didnt see petitions for 6 years under your rule because we didnt contest anything. We zerged uncontested mobs with Omni+Europa. Real raiding will always result in some sort of conflict.

Hello Kitty Island Adventure on TAKP does sound real fun tho

[Ripqozko]

AG didnt see petitions for 6 years under your rule because we didnt contest anything. We zerged uncontested mobs with Omni+Europa. Real raiding will always result in some sort of conflict.

Hello Kitty Island Adventure on TAKP does sound real fun tho

Lold, Grats omni

[Bellringer]

NAG is hardly an alliance. It's one guild with two guild tags. One discord, one chat channel, one dkp system, one leadership team.

https://i.imgur.com/DaJPWD5.gif

[Awweshux]

Gutterbrain's post says it.

[trapshooting2]

Lol Nemce the kid who thinks he got fouled too hard playing pick up basketball so he takes the only ball back home with home. You're an adult?

We'll be far better off with even less association to you and your pathetic little power trip.

[Viscere]

So wait wait wait

There is an AG on a bot server called TAKP, where one of the ex leaders of AG plays.

His guild was just a casual gathering until he left, and some other folks in AG stepped up and became a competing guild

now he is mad that AG is known for being a raiding guild on p99 and wants the name back?

What sort of virgin ginger Z gen snowflake are you omg lol

[Savok]

Let’s say some guy creates a company. Let’s say he builds up said company and all the other companies around marvel at how well he treats his employees; as well as how well he treats the employees of said other companies. Let’s say that this man expands his company on a new continent and again all the companies in this new land marvel at how well he treats everyone.

The man is so busy that he appoints a CEO to run the first company but then starts to hear that the company is being run completely different to what he expected. People in the new land have been asking if this is what the company is about.

What does the owner do? Does he ask his CEO to run the company as he envisioned? Does he fire the CEO and hire a new one? Does he sell the company sans the name so that his vision stays intact? - he does whatever he wants because he is still the sole shareholder.

You can knock Nemce as much as you want but just seeing some of these posts by current AG members tells me volumes as to how much the guild has changed. I don’t expect to get an invite to whatever the new guild becomes and to be honest I probably wouldn’t want it anyhow. To those who still play when I did here good luck to you all and enjoy p99, TAKP will always be open to you if you need a break.

[Vallaen]

This is a clever way for Nemce to continue playing TAKP because he can't raid on p99 nor will the members of it.

[Detoxx]

NAG is hardly an alliance. It's one guild with two guild tags. One discord, one chat channel, one dkp system, one leadership team.

So...an alliance. Got it.

[Fammaden]

This is the most elaborate "consider TAKP" pitch ever, red server recruiters take note.

[Dreenk317]

Let’s say some guy creates a company. Let’s say he builds up said company and all the other companies around marvel at how well he treats his employees; as well as how well he treats the employees of said other companies. Let’s say that this man expands his company on a new continent and again all the companies in this new land marvel at how well he treats everyone.

The man is so busy that he appoints a CEO to run the first company but then starts to hear that the company is being run completely different to what he expected. People in the new land have been asking if this is what the company is about.

What does the owner do? Does he ask his CEO to run the company as he envisioned? Does he fire the CEO and hire a new one? Does he sell the company sans the name so that his vision stays intact? - he does whatever he wants because he is still the sole shareholder.

You can knock Nemce as much as you want but just seeing some of these posts by current AG members tells me volumes as to how much the guild has changed. I don’t expect to get an invite to whatever the new guild becomes and to be honest I probably wouldn’t want it anyhow. To those who still play when I did here good luck to you all and enjoy p99, TAKP will always be open to you if you need a break.

Except its more like he quit/sold the company. Then started a new company on a different continent. And is now suing the original company for naming rights.....

[Grumph]

No it’s literally just like this:

The point is really simple and clear. I don’t know how anyone could be confused.

His thought process goes like this:

Do you poop sock?
If yes then your hard core and a jerk.
If no then your family friendly and a nice guy.

Also:

Do you deny other guilds pixels?
If yes then your hard core and a jerk.
If no then your family friendly and a nice guy.

...and also:

Do you deny other people a guild tag?
If yes then your family friendly and a nice guy.
If no then...why not lmfao!



I mean, seriously. Why would anyone ever NOT deny other players a guild tag if they could? LMFAO amirite!

[bktroost]

So...an alliance. Got it.

Detox, I've been out of your hair for two years now. Why did you venture over to TAKP earlier this year? Growing bored?

[trapshooting2]

Does TAKP also share forums with p99 or you losers (Savok and Nemce) just here to be lame and flex on people you have no connection to?

Go away haha

[Detoxx]

Detox, I've been out of your hair for two years now. Why did you venture over to TAKP earlier this year? Growing bored?

Because I quit P99 for a long while. Played Classic WoW and got bored with that but wasnt ready to come back to P99. I had a baby and couldnt commit time to it so I saw some friends were playing on Takp and it looked like a good option for me to casually play the game I love.

Joined Imperium with a lot of old AM friends, got some chars to 60 and raided a bit but then wanted to come back to P99.

TAKP is def the second best Emulated EQ server. It doesnt have the stupid new freeports and commonlands, its remains pretty true to classic and has a really good client that runs well. The population kind of sucks and whatever it is you can cut in by 3 cause everyone 3 boxes. I do enjoy it though and I am on it now actually.

[Hrothgar]

TAKP could be the solution to all of this.

Let’s just everyone pick up at level 1 and ruin TAKP!

[bktroost]

Because I quit P99 for a long while. Played Classic WoW and got bored with that but wasnt ready to come back to P99. I had a baby and couldnt commit time to it so I saw some friends were playing on Takp and it looked like a good option for me to casually play the game I love.

Joined Imperium with a lot of old AM friends, got some chars to 60 and raided a bit but then wanted to come back to P99.

TAKP is def the second best Emulated EQ server. It doesnt have the stupid new freeports and commonlands, its remains pretty true to classic and has a really good client that runs well. The population kind of sucks and whatever it is you can cut in by 3 cause everyone 3 boxes. I do enjoy it though and I am on it now actually.

Yeah p99 was my first love, but unlike yourself, I prefer a rotational raid environment. And it is pretty great.

But to answer your previous comment about the alliance. We were an alliance but after the first year we decided to merge in everything but the name. They like their name and we are obviously very attached to ours. But we operate as a single guild.

[Dreenk317]

It really shouldn't matter anyway. Pretty sure the precedent of GM's not getting involved in internal guild politics was set when the founder of TMO tried to do this exact thing....

[Ripqozko]

Yeah p99 was my first love, but unlike yourself, I prefer a rotational raid environment. And it is pretty great.

But to answer your previous comment about the alliance. We were an alliance but after the first year we decided to merge in everything but the name. They like their name and we are obviously very attached to ours. But we operate as a single guild.

thats like an alliance

[bktroost]

thats like an alliance

Nah, there's no splitting loot, separate discord channels, websites, dkp systems, leadership, etc. Just names.

[Ripqozko]

Nah, there's no splitting loot, separate discord channels, websites, dkp systems, leadership, etc. Just names.

still ally together to keep the loot all as one. if you have 2 entity as 1 , its still an alliance. because its 2 entity as 1. hope that helps

[Grumph]

Detox, I've been out of your hair for two years now. Why did you venture over to TAKP earlier this year? Growing bored?

Can you guys imagine where we’d all be right now if Nemce had stayed on p99 and remained a thorn in the side of Detoxx and every other hard core raider?

[Viscere]

lmao

[LazyHydras]

I'll just leave this right here. . .

https://i.imgur.com/eGea9WM.png

[Ripqozko]

I'll just leave this right here. . .

https://i.imgur.com/eGea9WM.png

That should be the end of it, grats AG on keeping name.

[Dreenk317]

Nah, there's no splitting loot, separate discord channels, websites, dkp systems, leadership, etc. Just names.

Your really gonna lawyerquest the definition of ally..... while requesting you get to change a guilds name, because they arent what you wanted them to be and they petition and lawyerquest stuff....

[arcalion]

After reading 19 pages of this crap, all I take from it is:

Some snowflake and his mommy ran a guild, passed leadership, moved on to some other snowflake endeavour, feelers hurt bc said guild is better than before and now all must pay...good read...sigh

P.S. Who is your daddy and what does he do!?

[Argh]

I'll just leave this right here. . .

https://i.imgur.com/eGea9WM.png

I’d imagine the difference is that Nemce still has leader tag, and new leaders were given duplicate ones.

[bktroost]

I’d imagine the difference is that Nemce still has leader tag, and new leaders were given duplicate ones.

Dula, technically.

[LazyHydras]

Dula, technically.

Hollowlung, technically.

[supercalif]

This is just ridiculous...Former guild founder leaves the server and passes guild leadership. Comes back almost 2 years later to white knight his former guild back to glory(?).

If you wanted to maintain your original vision why did you pass leadership at all?

I don’t see your name in any way in the guild charter as a decision maker. If you didn’t want this to happen why did you leave, not remain part of leadership decisions or ensure certain visionary decisions remain to your vote/approval?

Just because you are a founder means absolutely nothing when you pass leadership without certain maintenance of decisions. The only thing worse is the GMs endorsing this at all, speaks volumes as to why we are in the position we are in to begin with.

[Ripqozko]

Dula, technically.

Same thing as the picture then, got it.

[tyrant49333]

So look guys, i'm not going to be overbearing on this one....but i'm probably going to make an executive decision, and knowing the rarity and availability of me being able to obtain this guild name, Azure Guard is going to be a grats Nemce

[LazyHydras]

So look guys, i'm not going to be overbearing on this one....but i'm probably going to make an executive decision, and knowing the rarity and availability of me being able to obtain this guild name, Azure Guard is going to be a grats Nemce

grats not up.

[Hrothgar]

I mean, if I were still active <AG> I’d probably make a shadow guild Of all the alts of the playmakers from Azure Guard called <Nemce>, and just beat them to all their batphones and cuck all their pixels? Log over and loot on the <AG> toons, grats us?

[Dreenk317]

Wondering how much plat riot had to farm up on TAKP to buy Nemce's honor.....

[LazyHydras]

Wondering how much plat riot had to farm up on TAKP to buy Nemce's honor.....

They still have enough plat to buy loot rights so they can get their pixel-fix despite being raid banned so, whatever it was, it's not enough.

[Dreenk317]

Also wondering when Nemce's mom is gonna show up to tell us we're being bullied.....

[Dreenk317]

Bullies*

[Vasarious]

You voluntarily hand over something you don't want to people you do want to have it. Years later it develops into something the people you gave it to want it to be. You aren't happy with the way the people you wanted to have it made it so they have what they want. You then come back and try to take away what the people you wanted to have want.

I wonder how it would go over if I sold my house and the people changed the landscaping in the front yard and I tried to come back and tell them they can't have the house anymore because now I live 2 streets over and don't like what they did to my old house.

Nemce, with this move you ruined whatever reputation you had or thought you had with a large part of this community.

The petty nature of what you are doing completely undercuts the point you I guess were trying to make that the p99 AG was giving you a bad name. You just single handedly accomplished that yourself. Very few people know who you are, and even fewer care. Now people who never even heard of you know what you are about. I doubt I'll ever roll a toon on takp but at least I know the holier than thou crew to avoid. Congratulations on destroying any credibility that up until this point most people didn't even know existed.

[mycoolrausch]

Grats Kittens on becoming the #1 and #Oldest raiding guild on p99 in the same week

[Gorbok]

Grats Kittens on becoming the #1 and #Oldest raiding guild on p99 in the same week

pras kittens

[Jesseca]

The original agreement when we moved to takp qas that the name would continue to have an honorable reputation. That is the reason Nemce and I decided to contact the GM's. Because even though a few if the officers still held our morals and values the decisions made were against our beliefs. New leadership, new members were not privy to that information. Once we started to hear not so good things about what was going on with AG on p99, yes we put opinions in and the rest is history. Bottom line is when we left we should of not left the name here. We all learn from our mistakes.

Lovingly Mommy

[Nuggie]

"Kids can't figure out how to play nice, get their ball taken away as punishment and throw a fit." This is what sounds like is happening.

I liked the staged petition with TMO, was good.

[arcalion]

The original agreement when we moved to takp qas that the name would continue to have an honorable reputation. That is the reason Nemce and I decided to contact the GM's. Because even though a few if the officers still held our morals and values the decisions made were against our beliefs. New leadership, new members were not privy to that information. Once we started to hear not so good things about what was going on with AG on p99, yes we put opinions in and the rest is history. Bottom line is when we left we should of not left the name here. We all learn from our mistakes.

Lovingly Mommy

Your a joke, a Karen in real life...do you call the cops when you see black kids in your apartment swimming pool too?

[sydbarrett25]

I don't personally know Nemce but I can understand his stance that something he built up is being badmouthed by the server for perceived bias (casuals and zergs alike). AG stepped up and confronted the zerg on the server and are taking the heat.

I guess what Nemce may or may not understand is that in order to get somewhere, you need to stick your neck out sometimes, you can't stay on the sidelines your entire life. And thats what AG did, all while following all the server rules and being respectful and responsible people on the server.

We can't control the riot zerg knee-jerk reactions to petition everything we do because they can't stand the competition. So Nemce's stance that if we didn't confront the Zerg, we wouldn't be banned, true, but it would be a sad day in Norrath to let the zerg win every mob, every time.
“Nah”

[Thaak]

They still have enough plat to buy loot rights so they can get their pixel-fix despite being raid banned so, whatever it was, it's not enough.
I got a Scepter of the Forlorn for ya.

Wtb?

[feniin]

Looks like lots of white knighting parasites are concerned about their host organism. Where's what's left of p99 AG leadership like Hollowlung/Valick to weigh in?

[Nuggets]

watching football

-valick

[Nuggie]

Realistically, members were going to get leached by AM(Freedom now I think someone said?) This is speeding up the process.

[Lostfaction]

biggest yikes here threatening ability to delete guild website. big yikes. hope that gets transferred fast.

[bktroost]

biggest yikes here threatening ability to delete guild website. big yikes. hope that gets transferred fast.

She isn't planning on doing that.

[Ripqozko]

She isn't planning on doing that.

just threatening like a karen.

[Nuggie]

someone talked down to her and she put them in their place. big yikes. big big yikes.

[N0tClassic]

PR Stunt

[bktroost]

AG didnt see petitions for 6 years under your rule because we didnt contest anything. We zerged uncontested mobs with Omni+Europa. Real raiding will always result in some sort of conflict.

Hello Kitty Island Adventure on TAKP does sound real fun tho

valick, that's not true and you know it. I literally played your bard to beat bda and tmo on an inny pop and most of the sev pops we got. We race in NToV whenever things went late into window. We silently cothed everyone to the safe spot in NToV by PoG to crawl 80 people to triplets when other guilds were ignoring it to wait for vulak.

We did compete, but not the way you always wanted to. We didn't go hard in the paint.

[bktroost]

valick, that's not true and you know it. I literally played your bard to beat bda and tmo on an inny pop and most of the sev pops we got. We race in NToV whenever things went late into window. We silently cothed everyone to the safe spot in NToV by PoG to crawl 80 people to triplets when other guilds were ignoring it to wait for vulak.

We did compete, but not the way you always wanted to. We didn't go hard in the paint.

PoM*

[sydbarrett25]

Grats Kittens on becoming the #1 and #Oldest raiding guild on p99 in the same week

Cat food, cat food, cat fooood. Againnnnn
https://youtu.be/uQuAboEvags

[Gorbok]

valick, that's not true and you know it. I literally played your bard to beat bda and tmo on an inny pop and most of the sev pops we got. We race in NToV whenever things went late into window. We silently cothed everyone to the safe spot in NToV by PoG to crawl 80 people to triplets when other guilds were ignoring it to wait for vulak.

We did compete, but not the way you always wanted to. We didn't go hard in the paint.

You gave leadership to someone you knew wanted to be more competitive and are surprised that they went more competitive?

https://i.imgur.com/Zq0iBJK.jpg

[madgarin]

Does this mean that "Guard Guard" will now be a thing?

[Hotel]

not sure why everyone seems so shocked

this sounds like the kind of a decision a dude who co leads guilds with his mom would make

[madgarin]

not sure why everyone seems so shocked

this sounds like the kind of a decision a dude who co leads guilds with his mom would make

[bktroost]

not sure why everyone seems so shocked

this sounds like the kind of a decision a dude who co leads guilds with his mom would make

Originally, I actually only started on p99 in order to play with my mother. Being busy with work all the time makes vacationing harder. So EQ helps with that.

[Viscere]

Seek help

[Yoink1986]

jesus no wonder hes doing this. New AG and Freedom clearly have their shit together and are well adjusted individuals :0.

[Hotel]

im sorry you dont like my rants and flames in the rants and flames forum section you unbelievable twat

[Zekayy]

95% of current AG doesnt know who nemce is, only ones left from back then was littul and Valick. let me tell you who nemce is hes a nice great casual player that didnt really like aftermath/forsaken in the 2014/2015 era of p99 AG and Omni and Europa were apart of an alliance called csg (casual scum guild(s) ag were bringing the numbers for every encounter and they broke the alliance and went on their own and tried to compete with aftermath/forsaken and rampage, he failed (no offense nemce), but he did try and so he left the server for takp, gave leadership too hollowlung however nemce's toons were still apart of ag and never left and still had the tag of leader for ag. this whole time theres been 3 leaders of AG, Lavittz and Hollowlung and Nemce. there you guys go theres the story of why nemce still has leadership over ag

[LazyHydras]

valick, that's not true and you know it. I literally played your bard to beat bda and tmo on an inny pop and most of the sev pops we got. We race in NToV whenever things went late into window. We silently cothed everyone to the safe spot in NToV by PoG to crawl 80 people to triplets when other guilds were ignoring it to wait for vulak.

We did compete, but not the way you always wanted to. We didn't go hard in the paint.

WOW. Inny and Sev. Big Game Hunter right here. Look out, folks. Staff Sergeant Drioc FTE is next!

[bktroost]

WOW. Inny and Sev. Big Game Hunter right here. Look out, folks. Staff Sergeant Drioc FTE is next!

Yes and NToV dragons. We did race and did cross wing pulling. But, the way we got tunare and vulak and AoW was mostly through deals and negotiation.

[Zekayy]

Yes and NToV dragons. We did race and did cross wing pulling. But, the way we got tunare and vulak and AoW was mostly through deals and negotiation.

Lol woah now lets not get ahead of ourselves nemce you did try and compete in Ntov and tov but failed only time you got them was when aftermath or rampage conceded mobs or were suspended

[tyrant49333]

not sure why everyone seems so shocked

this sounds like the kind of a decision a dude who co leads guilds with his mom would make

Welcome back Karen and her son Kyle! Enjoy your guild tag with no members, because looks like you're on track to more hated than bladefrenzy

[Awweshux]

Rooted dragons. Different.

[Nuggie]

You guys sound like the kind of people who think Aragorn didn't deserve the crown of Gondor.

[Awweshux]

"even though a few if the officers still held our morals and values the decisions made were against our beliefs". Would be interested to know what you saw and why you dind't bring it to discord chat for some sort of resolution first.

[Arcticflava]

Interesting how none of the people who are banned for their toxic behavior, feel they are toxic, yet if you look at their post history, all you find is toxicity.

[LazyHydras]

not sure why everyone seems so shocked

this sounds like the kind of a decision a dude who co leads guilds with his mom would make

[Nuggie]

I'm not sure why spending time, of any kind(minus abusiveness... trolls), with your family is a bad thing.

[Jimjam]

Didn’t he give it to Ruffle, who ghosted when CSG fell apart who dumped it on Hollowlung? :D

I like to think that Ruffle left p1999 behind as, with true German Logic, this was the most efficient way for him to not give people DKP.

[getsome]

You guys sound like the kind of people who think Aragorn didn't deserve the crown of Gondor.

I would say it’s closer to Duke of Windsor Edward VIII claiming the kingdom over Queen Elizabeth II.

[Jimjam]

I would say it’s closer to Duke of Windsor Edward VIII claiming the kingdom over Queen Elizabeth II.

QEII is irrelevant. Dominic Cummings writes the law and is not bound by it. The PM and parliament does as he commands. He wears the crown now.

[bktroost]

I'm not sure why spending time, of any kind(minus abusiveness... trolls), with your family is a bad thing.

I play mtg with my further, CoD with my brother, Path of Exile and DnD with my sister. I guess I'm quadruple unstable?

[kaizersoze]

So what is the new guild name?

Renamed Guild. They can dust it off.

[Hrothgar]

I love that the dudes flaming a guy for playing games with his family are the ones who ditch their own families to get FTE on infinitely spawning mobs in someone else’s privately hosted snow globe of pixels.

Big fuckin sip, where’s lulz

[Dreenk317]

I play mtg with my further, CoD with my brother, Path of Exile and DnD with my sister. I guess I'm quadruple unstable?

No one is giving you ahit for spending time with or playing games with your family. At least, im not. People are giving you shit for this whole claiming rights to the name of AG and making an entire guild rebate themselves because you dont like that they became competitive.

That, in the words of me, is some weak fucking sauce.

[Zapp]

Azxre Gxard

[SantagarBrax]

so....

Gratz Freedom??

[Dreenk317]

God damn no edit button, rebadge *

[gamarun]

<Nemce Guard>

[Yoink1986]

<Freedom Followers>

[Ripqozko]

<Plan B>