People who 500K+ plat how did you do it?

[Tunabros]

Seriously how did you do it?

Most plat i ever had was 200k but that was with sweat and tears

[shuklak]

Seriously how did you do it?

Most plat i ever had was 200k but that was with sweat and tears

The key is balance.

Rid yourself of it, then you are on the path.

[Tunabros]

https://content.thriveglobal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Six-main-ideas-of-enlightenment.jpg?w=1550

thanks a lot man

ill meditate before i smash HGs for 6 hours

[Nexii]

1) Join a raid guild
2) Buy droppables with DKP
3) Wait for the guild to die

[Nuggie]

Get knowledgeable about a high value cash camp and make groups to farm it. Be a regular.

[Jibartik]

Ive never been a rich man in real life, but I noticed in everquest, once I becamea rich man in norrath, it was a lot easier for me to rebuild from the ground up than it was before.

It was like a state of mind change, money suddenly had less value to me once I had already obtained a bunch of it, and therefore it was for some inexplicable reason, easier to come by. Like on green, my character is level 36 and I couldnt get a thing for him that id really want until planer gear, and Ive got 20k in the bank and I didnt even like, do anything but level.

Idk wtf it is but not only do the rich get richer in the sense that they have capital, but even once you've become rich it;s just some how easier to deal with money than when you're poor.

I think its cus as a poor person IRL I treat money pretty much all the time like I treated plat when I had no plat. Afraid to spend it, always thinking to hard about it, end up thinking too long missing the best investments, never picking the right ones becuase Im too worried about risk. Yeah Idk.

Its a construct, like Shuklak says, once you rid yourself of it, you are on the path. I need to work on this IRL stat.

[Jibartik]

I exaggerate (im an edit button whore) its more like 8.9k, but still! 36 no gear needs, wtf?!

[Jibartik]

1) Join a raid guild
2) Buy droppables with DKP
3) Wait for the guild to die

I feel like once you're comfortable in this arena, that's the real cash money tip.

[Tunabros]

Ive never been a rich man in real life, but I noticed in everquest, once I becamea rich man in norrath, it was a lot easier for me to rebuild from the ground up than it was before.

It was like a state of mind change, money suddenly had less value to me once I had already obtained a bunch of it, and therefore it was for some inexplicable reason, easier to come by. Like on green, my character is level 36 and I couldnt get a thing for him that id really want until planer gear, and Ive got 20k in the bank and I didnt even like, do anything but level.

Idk wtf it is but not only do the rich get richer in the sense that they have capital, but even once you've become rich it;s just some how easier to deal with money than when you're poor.

I think its cus as a poor person IRL I treat money pretty much all the time like I treated plat when I had no plat. Afraid to spend it, always thinking to hard about it, end up thinking too long missing the best investments, never picking the right ones becuase Im too worried about risk. Yeah Idk.

Its a construct, like Shuklak says, once you rid yourself of it, you are on the path. I need to work on this IRL stat.


lol I feel like its reallly hard to make money on the green server atm

hopefully when kunark is out all the cash camps will have slightly more air

[Akg49]

Sell MQs

Everyone else here is wrong

[Tunabros]

Sell MQs

Everyone else here is wrong

like which ones?

trying to make some plat!

[Seducio]

Get to Level 60 as an Enchanter and solo Sebilis. Spend a few months there.

You should now be where you want to wealth wise.

Better question: What do you need 500k for?

On blue I did what I suggested above to create a Torpor Shaman. Spent a fortune on his gear and several months to level him up. You know JBB at 45 and Epic before 50 scenario.

After all that I still enjoyed the Enchanter better.

[Tunabros]

Get to Level 60 as an Enchanter and solo Sebilis. Spend a few months there.

You should now be where you want to wealth wise.

Better question: What do you need 500k for?

On blue I did what I suggested above to create a Torpor Shaman. Spent a fortune on his gear and several months to level him up. You know JBB at 45 and Epic before 50 scenario.

After all that I still enjoyed the Enchanter better.

sweet i kinda dont feel like leveling a chanter again tho XD

on green its more cut throat when it comes to farming cash

what exactly should I farm in seb?

[Seducio]

Assuming you are talking about Green. On Blue many items in Sebilis have depressed value due to server age.

Once Kunark comes out on grenn a 60 Enchanter could solo following camps in Seb and clean up:

NG
Disco
Crypt
Prison

and Duo even more camps like

Disco 2
Chef area

I'm going off memory so sure to be missing a few camps

[Seducio]

*green

[Jauna]

I lead a guild for about 6 months and had total control over the guild bank and after awhile people stopped playing. But that was only 100k+ and not a real answer to your question.

The trick is to have one of your personalities/alts to be charming and charismatic

[BarnabusCollins]

Anyone with 500k on green is RMT buying platinum

[jolanar]

It just takes time.

Sell raid loot > Sell MQs > Be a 60 Enchanter

I do none of those things and even I've got a couple hundred thousand just because I've been playing regularly for a while now. Only have one character above 50 and I mess around a lot. Once you've got all your basic gear (Fungi, 36% haste, good weapon) there isn't much left to even spend money on that matters so it just sort of piles up without you even trying.

[jolanar]

Oh and get 7 Tink Bags and a Large Soiled Bag ASAP. Always loot everything. Get some charisma gear. Kobold Jesters Crown + Crude Stein is 45 charisma. That's enough to get any class/race to 76. You really don't want to sell to a vendor with less than 76 charisma if you can help it. 105 Charisma it the goal though for full sell price. Also keep an eye out for greedy vendors and don't sell apprehensive vendors if you can help it.

Use the buy/resell trick to lower weight while away from a bank so you aren't just deleted gold/silver if you can.

[Dolalin]

I only ever got up to about 150k but the answer for me was spending lots of time in Seb crypt and selling some decent spell drops and heiro cloaks.

[ntb]

spend dkp->sell

[7thGate]

The answer for maximum wealth in games like this is usually to become a merchant, aka Tunnel Fat Cat. If I'm just trying for maximum platinum wealth, that's the route I would take (its also not what I want to do with my time, so I'm content to have lesser gear and play differently).

No market is a perfect free market; there are always inefficiencies, where people who would be happy buying and selling to each other are not because they don't know the other person is selling or because there is a liquidity issue causing them to be buying and selling at different points in time. Due to the lack of any kind of auction house, EQ has way more market inefficiencies than many similar games that you can be paid to mitigate.

Just like real life, if you're willing to spend your time and effort to address this by maintaining a stock of items and following market trends and doing the work to be a reliably available source of goods, you get to take a cut just like retail stores take a cut on sales between the manufacturer and the consumer.

I took a really different road here than in other games, but I've seen the same pattern emerge over and over in other places. People who are willing to do the boring grunt work of maintaining market liquidity and smoothing price volatility get rewarded way over the people actually making the items.

[OuterChimp]

Do the opposite of this ----> Have multiple alts and twink them all!

[Evets]

Camp manastones for months without sleep. Or kill hobbits.. heard oot can make big bucks.. made tons leveling off specs but not 500k maybe like 20-30k

[Ripqozko]

Power leveling on bard, use to make 30-50k a day. Even with 25 cap it’s profitable since you get like 3 pulls in the timeframe of old pulls.

[kjs86z]

if you have tits you can prey on the sexual deprivation of neckbeards with GM powers

(pretending to have boobs works too...its 2020 get on with your bad self and identify as whatever is gonna bring home the bacon)

[wagorf]

you sit on it, not knowing what to spend on - or the stuff you could use are too rare in the EC market (e.g. ccom, bio orb, zlandi heart)

once you end up deciding to start a new toon, you won't even consider any mid tier items but only the best droppable, then you realize some items takes forever to buy, hence you end up sitting in EC or forum for months trying to find a seller

[Dabeach]

if you have tits you can prey on the sexual deprivation of neckbeards with GM powers

(pretending to have boobs works too...its 2020 get on with your bad self and identify as whatever is gonna bring home the bacon)

Did that on live 15 years ago as bet with a mate to prove thats all it takes to get free stuffs., Halfing, blonde, blue eyes an tits. one top player guy never did log back on once I revealed who I was. meh.

[Seducio]

It just takes time.

Sell raid loot > Sell MQs > Be a 60 Enchanter



You are right about it taking time. However in early Kunark on Green any 60 Enchanter worth his salt will make significantly more plat/hour than the other two methods you mentioned.

In a late age server like Blue then what you said is true.

[Tunabros]

if you have tits you can prey on the sexual deprivation of neckbeards with GM powers

(pretending to have boobs works too...its 2020 get on with your bad self and identify as whatever is gonna bring home the bacon)


so make money off simps? :eek:

[Castle2.0]

Anyone with 500k on green is RMT buying platinum The buyer, yes, but the seller obviously made it somehow. That is the OP's question.

Sorry, TunaBros, I can't share all my secret spots and tricks.

But since it's over until Green 2.0....

I camped a Manastone for 18 hours - I will sell it for 300k. 16,600pp/hour equivalent. Not bad.

[Tunabros]

The buyer, yes, but the seller obviously made it somehow. That is the OP's question.

Sorry, TunaBros, I can't share all my secret spots and tricks.

But since it's over until Green 2.0....

I camped a Manastone for 18 hours - I will sell it for 300k. 16,600pp/hour equivalent. Not bad.

that really sucks for me I got school and classes

if I could i would have definitely camped a manastone/guise/RB BP etc

plus I dont have any friends in real life or in game willing to watch it for me

currently I'm saving up for a manastone

but by the time i save up around 250k it will go up 400k =(

[Soothsayer]

Farm guards intensively for several hours a day... for several months. If you still have any modicum of desire to continue playing EverQuest afterward, your mind, soul, and body truly belong to EQ and the Norrathian gods will reward you for your dedication.

[kjs86z]

so make money off simps? :eek:

wts 1 gallon of my bathwater 100k platinum obo

[Strifer]

wts 1 gallon of my bathwater 100k platinum obo

I'll trade my Ricky Martin discography

[Bardp1999]

The old money on Blue is from selling Chardok proxies for years. You could make 4k+ an hour easy

[kjs86z]

I'll trade my Ricky Martin discography

throw in Enrique too and you've got a deal

[indiscriminate_hater]

The old money on Blue is from selling Chardok proxies for years. You could make 4k+ an hour easy

No, old money is from camping 12x fungi tunics in a session when they sold for 80k a pop and you could solo them

[quido]

https://i.imgur.com/QgkvYuQ.png

[kjs86z]

https://i.imgur.com/QgkvYuQ.png

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85776

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/QgkvYuQ.png

:D

[Jibartik]

Shit, I meant to ask: I wonder who claims to have sold the most fungi's?

[Tunabros]

Oh man not TMO

I'm getting flashbacks

[Strifer]

https://i.imgur.com/QgkvYuQ.png

[kaizersoze]

Have a 60 chanter / shaman / necromancer who can solo in chardok / sebilis

Do high value cash camps / spawns like Drusella Sathir, HS south, Fungi King, Lodizal, Seb Juggs

Be an absolute dickhole selling lootrights to things like Vessel Drozzlin / Verina tomb, enchanters will pay you boatloads of money for these mobs begrudgingly. Another one you need to fight the Dawn Believer Mafia for is Stormfeather

Be lucky in Pick 3 HoT and sell major slots, chests and legs are big ticket items.

Sell droppable raid loot that you upgrade.

[Psyborg]

Buy 10-20% low, sell at wiki price. Made a million plat doing that and haven’t had the need to sit in EC since.

[Duane]

Duo'd Seb Protector a bunch and sold torpor(s) for high prices even while holding multiple copies on a mule.

[Baler]

twinked Shm, Cleric, Warrior, Dps

Gwurms in skyfire have a chance of dropping Torpor, I've seen 4 torpor drop in 1 month when I was apart of a crew that farmed them. I never won one, once lol.

Once slowed the warrior can tank peacefully, cleric+shm keeps everyone alive & buffed. Dps does it job.

[fastboy21]

Most of the people with this much plat have just been playing a long time.

We also had access to big ticket items before they were nerfed...i still haven't spent anywhere near all my holgresh elder bead money on blue. I didn't understand at the time why people were selling them so cheap and/or not farming them...made it easier for me to snag a ton of them though and squirrel them away for the coming nerf. By far the biggest single cash move I've ever had in EQ. Still wonder why everyone wasn't hiding away at least 1 or 2 beads when they knew what was coming.

I also spent an entire summer farming disco bugs religiously, mostly tabbed out between cycles...hard to say how much I made, but it prob came out to about 5k per day almost every day for a couple of months. Not exactly rich from it, but an easy few 100k without hardly any risk or effort.

[Tunabros]

Seems like main way people get rich on this server is by doing the following

>Be a 60 Enchanter
>Have no job/no life
>Sell MQs or poopsock camps
>Tunnelquest all day

[zanderklocke]

I think I made probably 1-1.5 million selling power levels over a few years, but I don't think I ever had more than like 400K on me at once.

[Tunabros]

I think I made probably 1-1.5 million selling power levels over a few years, but I don't think I ever had more than like 400K on me at once.

Oh yah you are pretty good PL

Heard a lot of good things from you =)

[fastboy21]

Seems like main way people get rich on this server is by doing the following

>Be a 60 Enchanter
>Have no job/no life
>Sell MQs or poopsock camps
>Tunnelquest all day

The question didn't ask about getting rich though...it asked about getting 500k. There is a big difference between "rich" and having 500k on blue.

I know how snobby it sounds to say 500k isn't much money to most newer players...but really it isn't that much if you've been playing for years on a static server.

[Scalem]

Seems like main way people get rich on this server is by doing the following

>Be a 60 Enchanter
>Have no job/no life
>Sell MQs or poopsock camps
>Tunnelquest all day

Pretty much

[Tunabros]

The question didn't ask about getting rich though...it asked about getting 500k. There is a big difference between "rich" and having 500k on blue.

I know how snobby it sounds to say 500k isn't much money to most newer players...but really it isn't that much if you've been playing for years on a static server.

I mean, to me, 500k is considered to be "rich'

Not everyone has 500k+ sitting in their bank

Even as someone who plays on this server a lot and is somewhat dedicated would

not have 500k+ plat unless they got lucky on loot drops or something


500k+ plat takes dedication or being very lucky

[fastboy21]

I mean, to me, 500k is considered to be "rich'

Not everyone has 500k+ sitting in their bank

Even as someone who plays on this server a lot and is somewhat dedicated would

not have 500k+ plat unless they got lucky on loot drops or something


500k+ plat takes dedication or being very lucky

Like I said, 500k sounds like a lot...but there is a big difference between the 500k crowd and the big hitters on the server. There are truly rich folks who make single trades worth 500k.

I'd guess that about 20% of the server has (or could easily liquidate droppable gear in EC) about 500k at their disposal. Top 20% is wealthy, but not rich imo...the 1% crowed is WAY wealthier than 500k.

It is all relative I guess.

[Seiter02]

I'm bar far and away not the richest person on the server but I have had > 1mil on my banker on multiple occasions and I can tell you one thing is for certain; more money can be made in EC than at any camp.

When I first hit 60 on the ENC I farmed HS and PoM for months saving up enough to buy items that were, at the time for me, exceptionally expensive, like PoM robe. For a long time I would farm for a solid month, then buy something for around 40k, then do it again. This worked for about a year.

Then I transitioned to selling LR in SG which was good when there were buyers but absolutely abysmal when there were not. So I moved to killing elementals which cost me more money than I made and took over a year to really become profitable. None of this was ever as good as just farming BM or something else.

Then at one point or another I got to about 200k and I bought a zheart for 120k, which I then promptly sold for 175. I did this type of thing a few times until I had 400k, which I used to buy a manastone. (I know, right?) Which I promptly sold for 600k. I very rapidly learned that EC is by far the best pp/hr, if you can bring yourself to sit there all damn day. Also, the blue economy I think is overall worse for this now than it was in years past.

TLDR; there are no shortcuts. Find a good camp. Do it forever. Find a good LR or MQ. Do it forever. Or sit in EC forever.

There are no shortcuts in EQ.

[Plowyabeastlord]

/SHRUG

[zanderklocke]

Yeah...the 1% crowd probably had like 4-10 million in platinum a few years back. I wouldn't be surprised if the top 1% is now like 10-15 million, assuming they've been playing consistently for like a decade.

I remember Nordenwatch got super pissed when one of the GMs announced his character Teleportation he had the most platinum on him of any character, as people started to bug him a lot.

[Tunabros]

I'm bar far and away not the richest person on the server but I have had > 1mil on my banker on multiple occasions and I can tell you one thing is for certain; more money can be made in EC than at any camp.

When I first hit 60 on the ENC I farmed HS and PoM for months saving up enough to buy items that were, at the time for me, exceptionally expensive, like PoM robe. For a long time I would farm for a solid month, then buy something for around 40k, then do it again. This worked for about a year.

Then I transitioned to selling LR in SG which was good when there were buyers but absolutely abysmal when there were not. So I moved to killing elementals which cost me more money than I made and took over a year to really become profitable. None of this was ever as good as just farming BM or something else.

Then at one point or another I got to about 200k and I bought a zheart for 120k, which I then promptly sold for 175. I did this type of thing a few times until I had 400k, which I used to buy a manastone. (I know, right?) Which I promptly sold for 600k. I very rapidly learned that EC is by far the best pp/hr, if you can bring yourself to sit there all damn day. Also, the blue economy I think is overall worse for this now than it was in years past.

TLDR; there are no shortcuts. Find a good camp. Do it forever. Find a good LR or MQ. Do it forever. Or sit in EC forever.

There are no shortcuts in EQ.

Pretty good advice!

Guess its all about flipping items that doesn't really have an " exact" value

like some items have a range

so the mindset is : buy low sell high?

Tbh I don't really like this behavior


I remember when I started the server back in 2016, I sold an item for cheap to a noob

for about 60p; I later saw him resell it almost immediately for 100p like wtf?

this happened to me a lot of times on green too but most of the time is not right away

in fact, they must have waited till I was logged off

then Ill be on an alt and see them selling my items higher than sold

So like wtf, I be nice to noobs and my reward is shit money? feels bad man

or maybe Im too gullible :p

[Tunabros]

Yeah...the 1% crowd probably had like 4-10 million in platinum a few years back. I wouldn't be surprised if the top 1% is now like 10-15 million, assuming they've been playing consistently for like a decade.

I remember Nordenwatch got super pissed when one of the GMs announced his character Teleportation he had the most platinum on him of any character, as people started to bug him a lot.

Now that you mentioned Nordenwatch (think he got banned for RMT but he's still pretty rich)

he got a nice guide that I found that shows how to get balls rich

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144964

[Bbeta]

nerds

[Baler]

Why do people farm plat just to get a high pixel number?

[fastboy21]

Why do people farm plat just to get a high pixel number?

For me the short answer is that money equals gear that I can't acquire any other way.

Also, like most things in EQ, it is addicting...I've never lost the adrenaline rush of clicking on a named corpse (or even a trash mob with a 1/1000 chance to drop a rare item) to check its loot.

I am guessing that it is the same pattern of neurons that fire when a gambling addict pulls the lever on a slot machine.

Depending on your perspective this is either super unhealthy or a weird way of entertaining yourself.

[Ravager]

PUGs at cash camps is the easiest way to do it while having the most fun. The trick is sell it and don't spend it. This game can be beat with a cracked staff. No reason to sink your loot into undroppable garbage you can just quest for yourself anyway. Twinking an alt? A pair of 5/55 rings and a 100p weapon will get you to level 50. After level 50 your alt is capable enough to loot the upgrades and make you richer. Play the game and don't worry about 500k and you'll have more than you care to spend.

[Arteker]

back in the day for solo camping the bugs to disco, it become so popular everyone and his mother came that spot instead of necro .
Aswell i got payed to wipe people at king by moving frogs trough the slope wich would cause em to fall below and agro crypt and half sebilis basement and path straight into kings groups.

[Naonak]

Save more than you spend would help.

Get a elf sugar daddy.

RMT like the pros.

Hope that helps

[Tunabros]

RMT like the pros.



lol

starting to speculate all the richest players RMT some way or another

[Foxplay]

Farm with just 1 or 2 characters, or play the EC game... if you have as many characters as me your going to be broke forever

[Scalem]

lol

starting to speculate all the richest players RMT some way or another

Plenty of people RMT considering people get banned for it all the time. Wouldn’t be surprised if some people have been getting away with it for years by being smart.

[Jibartik]

Why do people farm plat just to get a high pixel number?

https://i.imgur.com/9AQiywk.png

[Baler]

^that's so on point

[NPC]

Its bad to share knowledge because you just create competition, so most wont tell you jack. Really you just need the initial fund 5k-10k, to get to a place where you can buy expensive items in EC tunnel. Buy low and sell high an be very patient, thats it. Getting the initial funding usually need to find those perfect easy solo named camp items you can turn an sell quickly in the EC tunnel. Farming plat off mobs should only be till 30th level or so, then you need to dig deep into the wiki's (Guk, Splitpaw, Mistmoore, quest items) to find good named camp magic item drops to sell to others, that's how you get rich. Of course you better be playing a class that can solo, usually int caster, that's why you always start with int caster to gear the rest of your alts an make cash. They are cheap to play, other than buying an researching spells, you can play them naked an still be an effective solo'er. For instance a 30th level int caster can solo camp the Ancient Croc in upper guk naked, great exp for that level and that drops wis legs worth 1-2k or int arms worth 200-400pp, non lore so you can stock up with multiple of each item. But sometimes you can stay 4-6 hours an get 0 drops, or you could get 5 drops, this server drop rate is VERY sketchy at times. So 6 hours you could potentially get 3-5k worth of items, there is no plat farming that could match that. Very easy to make an alt int caster w/ pet, each has their own wheel house on effective soloing, chanter, necro, or mage. Of course the higher level the int caster the more you can make because you can camp better items that sell for more money, like a 50th level necro in Lguk. When you loot your 1st FBSS or get 7k-10k, then you market FBSS, you get 100k market fungi tunics, 200k+ then you can market manastones. Based on your current cash you adjust to that level of item to buy/sell, always shooting for the highest level items as those will sell the fastest. I've probably made 50k so far on green, mostly tied up in items now. I farmed plat till 12-15k, then it was all item camps after that. Very few players on green have 100k+ right now due to how new the server still is.

[Baler]

How the heck did you catch the username NPC in 2020

[Noselacri]

Seems like main way people get rich on this server is by doing the following

>Be a 60 Enchanter
>Have no job/no life
>Sell MQs or poopsock camps
>Tunnelquest all day

How else do you expect to get rich? In real life, the main ways to get rich are to inherit a fortune, win the lottery, organized crime, or work an extremely high-paying job. If anyone could do it, everyone would be rich. Same goes for EQ.

[Fammaden]

How else do you expect to get rich? In real life, the main ways to get rich are to inherit a fortune, win the lottery, organized crime, or work an extremely high-paying job. If anyone could do it, everyone would be rich. Same goes for EQ.

Most lottery winners are bankrupt within five years.

[Tunabros]

How else do you expect to get rich? In real life, the main ways to get rich are to inherit a fortune, win the lottery, organized crime, or work an extremely high-paying job. If anyone could do it, everyone would be rich. Same goes for EQ.

What a society we live in :eek:

[-TK-]

In real life, the main ways to get rich are to inherit a fortune, win the lottery, organized crime, or work an extremely high-paying job.

You are extremely misinformed and spreading terrible information that sounds like every liberal idiot that thinks anyone who makes real money is evil or just lucky. These are certainly not the 'main ways' people get rich. You'll almost never 'get rich' working for someone, either. Those 'high-paying jobs' are very few and far in-between and the bachelor's degree college education you pay for for 20 years of your life most likely isn't going to get you there. Try starting/buying/flipping a business, real estate investing, long term portfolio investing, or creating a product people decide they can't live without. Those are the 'main ways' to get rich, as you say.

[kjs86z]

How else do you expect to get rich? In real life, the main ways to get rich are to inherit a fortune, win the lottery, organized crime, or work an extremely high-paying job. If anyone could do it, everyone would be rich. Same goes for EQ.

controlling your expenses plays a big part of it

[-TK-]

What a society we live in :eek:

It's an amazing society with historically unprecedented freedoms and opportunities for its citizens. So, hell yeah, what a society we live in!

[conoutoftrol]

You are extremely misinformed and spreading terrible information that sounds like every liberal idiot that thinks anyone who makes real money is evil or just lucky. These are certainly not the 'main ways' people get rich. You'll almost never 'get rich' working for someone, either. Those 'high-paying jobs' are very few and far in-between and the bachelor's degree college education you pay for for 20 years of your life most likely isn't going to get you there. Try starting/buying/flipping a business, real estate investing, long term portfolio investing, or creating a product people decide they can't live without. Those are the 'main ways' to get rich, as you say.

Try starting/buying/flipping a business, real estate investing, long term portfolio investing, or creating a product people decide they can't live without.

All of these involve having some non-trivial initial capital. Which you will probably need to work for "someone" to get.

[Jibartik]

When I get items half the time I just charm NPCs and put the item on em. Selling them is like so unfun to me. If you dont want it as Im running to the bank spaming the macro I give up.

[Naerron]

The best way to stack plat i've ever found is finding a niche that you don't mind grinding and then set to work. Slow and steady is often better for solo plat farming than the big pay off camps.

HoT clears, or WToV pickup raids have always been a favorite for me. Go for plate bracers, or other items like that. Sell in a day or less for 10k a pop, sometimes you can also snag a chest or legs that will net ya like 50k.

some other solo style ideas

1.VP key piece farming, especially PS
2. IG farming - plat and toes are needed for wort pots
3. farming mats for or making consumables people use to raid
4. Gem farming in velks or sebilis
5. be an enchanter

Other than that, getting a small farm crew of 2-3 other people that also have a a few solid classes at 60 is your best route. Then you can do things like fungi kind and when a tunic drops you just split the plat 3 ways or something like that. At this point you can even start to think of things like lodi. Pooling gains with a small group will get you up and going till you have enough plat on your own to then also play the market buying low and selling high.

Plus, playing the game with people, especially a smaller group where you all have a vested interest really makes the whole thing 100x more enjoyable. I would advise against becoming a netflix champion while killing PS placeholder every 6 mins or whatever it is

[-TK-]

Try starting/buying/flipping a business, real estate investing, long term portfolio investing, or creating a product people decide they can't live without.

All of these involve having some non-trivial initial capital. Which you will probably need to work for "someone" to get.

Working for 'someone' isn't a bad thing to help you get your start. (We all technically work for 'someone' - even if you own your business your customers are your 'someone'). I didn't say it was a bad thing, either, but if your life goal is to get a comfy job as an employee (warm body with or without college) then you most likely won't get rich. If a couple thousand dollars to get your first investment property or $500 to open an investment portfolio isn't doable for you, then you have little to no chance to accumulate wealth and your mind frame and/or habits are most likely the reason unless you're disabled in some way. Research and make as many good choices about your life and money as you can, and start as early as you can. Make your goal to spend less than you make even if it means working two jobs and taking the bus to work, skipping parties/dates with friends, moving to a cheaper or better living location, etc... If you have a great idea for a product or service, make a mock-up and pitch it to people that already have money. No one said you don't have to put in some work to get started, but thinking those are the main ways people get rich is preposterous and ill-informed. Start small if you have to, and build on your small successes to develop confidence and pave the way for larger success.

In EQ, you also have to work to get a start on something. Level your toon, farm those gems and crafting supplies, camp those mobs and MQ's, port people, and flip those items in EC. It all will take time and effort, though. This is a game that generally rewards time played and efforts made, and it's a fact that won't change. So, yes, it will be exponentially harder for someone to be plat wealthy if they play 4 hours a week vs 24. And if you make a new alt and 'twink' it every time you get 1,000 plat in the bank, then re-evaluate your spending choices if your goal is to be plat wealthy. The #1 way to make more money for anyone new to the server is just to level to 60 first. Plain and simple. It simply opens more cash making opportunities. From there your profitability varies depending on your class. As an example, Enchanters are strong level 60 solo toons due to their ability to move through dungeons and pick off camps. But in the meantime, be entrepreneurial while leveling, too. If you're killing bears and wolves for the next 5 levels, post an ad on the forums stating so and see if you can match up with someone that is currently leveling their craft and can use the pelts you get. If they pay you more than the vendor, you're already up money and experience! Make like-minded friends along the way, too. The right friends are usually key to your success as well. In game and out.

[fastboy21]

The best way to stack plat i've ever found is finding a niche that you don't mind grinding and then set to work. Slow and steady is often better for solo plat farming than the big pay off camps.

HoT clears, or WToV pickup raids have always been a favorite for me. Go for plate bracers, or other items like that. Sell in a day or less for 10k a pop, sometimes you can also snag a chest or legs that will net ya like 50k.

some other solo style ideas

1.VP key piece farming, especially PS
2. IG farming - plat and toes are needed for wort pots
3. farming mats for or making consumables people use to raid
4. Gem farming in velks or sebilis
5. be an enchanter

Other than that, getting a small farm crew of 2-3 other people that also have a a few solid classes at 60 is your best route. Then you can do things like fungi kind and when a tunic drops you just split the plat 3 ways or something like that. At this point you can even start to think of things like lodi. Pooling gains with a small group will get you up and going till you have enough plat on your own to then also play the market buying low and selling high.

Plus, playing the game with people, especially a smaller group where you all have a vested interest really makes the whole thing 100x more enjoyable. I would advise against becoming a netflix champion while killing PS placeholder every 6 mins or whatever it is

Pained soul is, indeed, a very easy and valuable camp. If you can get the camp it won't be hard to sell the MQ for a premium...ofc, if folks talk about it will be harder to find open now.

The general rule of thumb: those who know don't say, those who say don't know.

We all have our secret little tricks that we try to keep on the down low.

[conoutoftrol]

I didn't say it was a bad thing, either, but if your life goal is to get a comfy job as an employee (warm body with or without college) then you most likely won't get rich.


I mainly disagree here. I guess it depends on your definition of rich but in our current system the most likely way to amass a decent amount of wealth is to be a jobber. Following common investing/retirement advice. 65% of new businesses fail within 10 years of opening. Investing that much time/capital into something with a high likelihood of failure will set you back tremendously. And if you are following the well trodden path of the jobber starting early and being consistent is key.

[7thGate]

If your goal is to have tens to hundreds of millions of dollar in your lifetime, you need to be starting businesses or doing leveraged investing of some sort. These are high risk, high reward ventures.

If you just want a few million dollars, its very viable to just study something where you can get paid 100k+ per year and invest 25-30% of your earnings. You will probably end up in the mid single digit millions net worth, and depending on how you choose to handle your retirement, you have the option of your grandchildren attempting to step into a really wealthy tier off your inheritance.

[Knuckle]

If your goal is to have tens to hundreds of millions of dollar in your lifetime, you need to be starting businesses or doing leveraged investing of some sort. These are high risk, high reward ventures.

If you just want a few million dollars, its very viable to just study something where you can get paid 100k+ per year and invest 25-30% of your earnings. You will probably end up in the mid single digit millions net worth, and depending on how you choose to handle your retirement, you have the option of your grandchildren attempting to step into a really wealthy tier off your inheritance.

and contributing to the asshole trust fund kiddy cycle!




jk.







sort of.

[-TK-]

I mainly disagree here. I guess it depends on your definition of rich but in our current system the most likely way to amass a decent amount of wealth is to be a jobber. Following common investing/retirement advice. 65% of new businesses fail within 10 years of opening. Investing that much time/capital into something with a high likelihood of failure will set you back tremendously. And if you are following the well trodden path of the jobber starting early and being consistent is key.

It all absolutely depends on your definition of 'wealthy' or 'rich', but most people will say that what you are describing is living 'comfortably' and 'the safe path'. I don't think the comment I was addressing was describing the same thing that you are if for no other reason he mentioned winning the lottery. Pay off your house, have a little savings, and maybe a million in your retirement if you're lucky and don't run into trouble? That's pretty nice, but that's not wealthy/rich in the context of the numbers being talked about in this thread. You're not buying a million dollar luxury yacht (Holgresh beads) with that path. I'm willing to wager that 98% or better of people that play on this server never get anywhere near 500k in liquid platinum as referenced in the topic. So let's consider 'wealthy' and 'rich' within that regard. To be in the top 2% in America you need a household pre-tax income of about $500,000-600,000. There are very few specific cases where even two people together are pulling down that kind of money where at least one of them doesn't head/own a company or multiple companies or investment groups. You don't get there pushing paper for someone or working for McD's for 35 years.

Absolutely, businesses fail. There's always risk. I can use my own experience as an example. I learned about that risk pretty hard at about 20 when I had a landscaping/snow removal company and my (older) business partner ran off with the equipment leaving me to foot the bills because I naively put it all in my name. But, I've come back from that (with the luxury of time) and started over and now have reached a level of success that 20 year old me could have never imagined. If you're afraid to fail, can't take criticism, or don't have a high drive ambition to have real control of your time, what you describe is a great way to build wealth over a lifetime. But slow and steady doesn't always win you the race. True wealth, in my opinion, is health and control of your time. Money is just the means. Having the means to retire and only pay property taxes and maintenance on your home/homes before 40 while being in control of what you choose to do most days is wealthy/rich to me. Retiring with ~1 million or so in your 401k and retirement account at 65 after working for 35+ years for someone else that dictates my schedule is not. At that point they've taken more from you than you received and that seems like a terrible deal to me. We also don't live in an economy anymore where people really stay at jobs for 5+ years let alone 30+ as was more common in the boomer generation. Either by their choice or their employers, it's just the reality of it.

[Zipity]

Sell 5 bard PLs from 59-60 in DN and bam tu have 500k in a week.

[fastboy21]

I mainly disagree here. I guess it depends on your definition of rich but in our current system the most likely way to amass a decent amount of wealth is to be a jobber. Following common investing/retirement advice. 65% of new businesses fail within 10 years of opening. Investing that much time/capital into something with a high likelihood of failure will set you back tremendously. And if you are following the well trodden path of the jobber starting early and being consistent is key.

A bad plan is a bad plan, regardless of what path you take. You can earn over $150k easily by working for someone else in some professions...by objective world and historical standards it would be hard to call that person "not rich". Its all relative.

Not for nothing either, but earning money irl isn't the whole purpose of life or a golden path to happiness...and it isn't in EQ either. Lots of folks find out the hard way that they've spent the first half of their life pursuing a lifestyle that they discover don't even want when/if they get their hands on it.

[Scalem]

A bad plan is a bad plan, regardless of what path you take. You can earn over $150k easily by working for someone else in some professions...by objective world and historical standards it would be hard to call that person "not rich". Its all relative.

Not for nothing either, but earning money irl isn't the whole purpose of life or a golden path to happiness...and it isn't in EQ either. Lots of folks find out the hard way that they've spent the first half of their life pursuing a lifestyle that they discover don't even want when/if they get their hands on it.

Plenty of jobs pay anywhere from six figures and even close to seven figures. People just get worthless degrees that will never make close to six figures or they don’t have that desire to ever make something of themselves. Want a good job working for someone else? Become a cpa, learn some blue collar trade there’s a huge shortage of them in the Us and they make a great living. Get into data analytics.

[imperiouskitten]

I am very likeable so my friends gave me several fungis, manastone, donal's bp (prenerf)

[imperiouskitten]

i did it by forumquesting quite literalley

[BlackBellamy]

I started by buying bone chips for 3p and selling them for 5p.

I've moved on since then but kept the ratio the same.

Also, sometimes I port people.

Boom, 500k!

[Baler]

I started by buying bone chips for 3p and selling them for 5p.

I've moved on since then but kept the ratio the same.

Also, sometimes I port people.

Boom, 500k!

see it's E Z, just farm 2,000,000 Bone Chips :)

[fastboy21]

Plenty of jobs pay anywhere from six figures and even close to seven figures. People just get worthless degrees that will never make close to six figures or they don’t have that desire to ever make something of themselves. Want a good job working for someone else? Become a cpa, learn some blue collar trade there’s a huge shortage of them in the Us and they make a great living. Get into data analytics.

Yeah...I'm not denying that at all. I've made a good living for myself working for other people my entire career. The issue I was getting at is the whole "you can't get rich if you work for someone else" mantra --- it all depends on what you mean by rich.

If you get a teaching degree you can earn 6 figures, life time insurance, a pension...and hopefully do something you like. Few people would call a teacher "rich" though. My point is that even only earning 100k a year is still the jackpot compared to the quality of life most people have in the world or have had historically. Plus, and more importantly, you might actually be doing something you love and find meaningful.

I agree with you about the bull crap degrees. If you graduate from college and have no marketable skills or certifications you will have very few options, and they will most likely be very low pay and something you'd prefer not to do.

[Tunabros]

I am very likeable so my friends gave me several fungis, manastone, donal's bp (prenerf)

define "likeable"

[shuklak]

Yeah...I'm not denying that at all. I've made a good living for myself working for other people my entire career. The issue I was getting at is the whole "you can't get rich if you work for someone else" mantra --- it all depends on what you mean by rich.

If you get a teaching degree you can earn 6 figures, life time insurance, a pension...and hopefully do something you like. Few people would call a teacher "rich" though. My point is that even only earning 100k a year is still the jackpot compared to the quality of life most people have in the world or have had historically. Plus, and more importantly, you might actually be doing something you love and find meaningful.

I agree with you about the bull crap degrees. If you graduate from college and have no marketable skills or certifications you will have very few options, and they will most likely be very low pay and something you'd prefer not to do.

And a diehard liberal is then born.

[fastboy21]

And a diehard liberal is then born.

Not trying to be snarky...but, honestly, what do you mean?

I'm not a liberal...and def not a die hard one. Most people in my life consider me borderline libertarian on most issues, especially social and economic issues.

I've been an economics and history prof. / teacher (college and high school) for twenty years...and most of my students associate me "neo-liberal" b/c of my emphasis on Milton Friedman's monetary policy, but (like Friedman) I would call myself a lover of freedom more than anything else (which, is what the word liberal originally meant before it became synonymous with Democrat in America).

Then again I find the modern use of the word liberal in America to nonsensical..."liberal" and "conservative" have been reduced to code words for Democrat and Republican along strictly party platforms. One of the reasons I detest party politics is that most people who align themselves can't explain the arbitrary inconsistent stances each party takes on their platform just to try to win the election; it doesn't map to reality in my opinion.

Truly not being snarky (even though this is a RNF forum) --- did I say something accidentally say something "leftist" when I tried to make the case that graduating with a non-sense degree is a path to economic problems or when I said you can work for someone else and live better than 99.999% of the worlds population historically has ever lived? Truly curious if that is now a "liberal" position in party politics/opinion.

[HalflingSpergand]

No one cares what your "students" think of u pervert

[fastboy21]

No one cares what your "students" think of u pervert

Thanks for reminding me that this the p99 RNF forum. Now go fuck yourself. :)

[Baler]

Thanks for reminding me that this the p99 RNF forum. Now go fuck yourself. :)

Gottem! lol
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[BlackBellamy]

see it's E Z, just farm 2,000,000 Bone Chips :)

I recommend North Ro. You get your bard and run up and down the zone tagging every skel and bring them back and pulse them down and now you have like 62 bone chips.

Just repeat 32,258 times and you're good.

(Around 2100 hours if you're curious which is around 200 days play time for me)

I'm working on my second half million plat now.

[BlackBellamy]

Just to be clear I have Vietnamese contractors doing that. Those guys will work for rusty weapons.

Meanwhile I do Befallen quests and sell the keys to new people that's free cash right there.

[BlackBellamy]

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