What's up with people who claim camps despite being 15-20 minutes from said camp

[BenDerisgreat]

Yet again, an FoH group claims efreeti despite not even being past Lillypads. Shouldn't come as much of a surprise considering the guild's track record but I'm a fool.

[ChampionCleric]

This is why I learned to stop using camp checks. They only work against you. If you want to get a camp your best bet is quietly moving towards it.

[DMN]

Nothing prevents someone from trying to claim something.If you want to beat them to the camp without training them and get FTE the camp is yours. But crying on rants iand flames for something this pathetic is pretty sad. Someone said something in CC. Oh you poor dear.

[ChampionCleric]

I learned a long time ago to not use camp checks on P99. They only work against you. 90% of the time if you just sneak up and look at the camp you're after, you'll realize it's vacant. As soon as you announce CC and someone doesn't respond to the camp you want, someone else will get the bright idea that the camp is theirs.

[douglas1999]

What you do is type /ooc fuck off

[BenDerisgreat]

Nothing prevents someone from trying to claim something.If you want to beat them to the camp without training them and get FTE the camp is yours. But crying on rants iand flames for something this pathetic is pretty sad. Someone said something in CC. Oh you poor dear.

RnF is the perfect place to talk about shitty etiquette, given this constitutes both a rant and a flame. Don't worry though, my feelings are intact. Also, there's no such thing as "saying in CC". Try reading a book (or EverQuest chat).

[Baler]

I do a CampCheck when I enter a zone is 99% of the time if I'm going for a specific camp.
Whether people respond they're camping it or not, I go check it out.

Remember CC is a courtesy from both parties not a requirement.
But here is why I tend to do it.

So I show up at the camp and no one is there, mobs are up.
I take that camp and then when that other people shows up I tell them I'm camping it, the mobs were up and no one was here.

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Leapfrogging is super lame but allowed on p99. If they're still not past lillypads, you can use their clear to that camp to take that camp before they can take it. Expect them to get upset and maybe even petition. As per the rules they're not camping it and as per the Play Nice Policy they've already violated that by publicly claiming a camp they're not camping.

[Coridan]

Yeah so what should happen is:
Someone: CC
Fires of Heaven: We're heading to Efreeti
You: OK I won't be a dick and try to get there before them.

[DMN]

RnF is the perfect place to talk about shitty etiquette, given this constitutes both a rant and a flame. Don't worry though, my feelings are intact. Also, there's no such thing as "saying in CC". Try reading a book (or EverQuest chat).

But this is really minor/petty bullshit. but i might add this is one of the reason why some people don't even fuck with CC. Why do a CC/respond to one when someone is just going to talk shit about you for doing it? Oh they didn'tproeperly format their claim on the efreeti. Big fucking deal.

[BenDerisgreat]

But this is really minor/petty bullshit. but i might add this is one of the reason why some people don't even fuck with CC. Why do a CC/respond to one when someone is just going to talk shit about you for doing it? Oh they didn'tproeperly format their claim on the efreeti. Big fucking deal.

Had they not replied to a CC with the intention of dissuading others into attempting a camp they were not actively camping or clearing, maybe they wouldn't get called out for being hacks. Just a thought.

[Videri]

Yeah so what should happen is:
Someone: CC
Fires of Heaven: We're heading to Efreeti
You: OK I won't be a dick and try to get there before them.

This^. Also, leapfrogging is risky...I've seen it turn into a trainfest before. Just come back and do Efreeti later!

[Videri]

But also, OP: I, too, don't like it either when people call a camp while not actively clearing it. I think it's bad form. If they're right outside, about to break the camp, then sure. Even if they're clearing at the lilypads, I'd hang back and wait to see if they succeed before trying to beat them to it. But calling it from the zoneline is disgraceful.

Also, I wonder if we can create a new meta of randos teaming up to do Efreeti. You know? If you're an enc/clr duo, bring that shaman or monk or paladin along. If they know what they're doing, they'll add stability to your crew.

[adichi]

Yet again, an FoH group claims efreeti despite not even being past Lillypads. Shouldn't come as much of a surprise considering the guild's track record but I'm a fool.

All that sodium is gonna give u a heart attack.

[Googi]

camp disputes are easily solved with training, are you new to eq?

[Arvan]

I do a CampCheck when I enter a zone is 99% of the time if I'm going for a specific camp.
Whether people respond they're camping it or not, I go check it out.

Remember CC is a courtesy from both parties not a requirement.
But here is why I tend to do it.

So I show up at the camp and no one is there, mobs are up.
I take that camp and then when that other people shows up I tell them I'm camping it, the mobs were up and no one was here.

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Leapfrogging is super lame but allowed on p99. If they're still not past lillypads, you can use their clear to that camp to take that camp before they can take it. Expect them to get upset and maybe even petition. As per the rules they're not camping it and as per the Play Nice Policy they've already violated that by publicly claiming a camp they're not camping.

The pnp does not say that rofl

[Baler]

The pnp does not say that rofl

incorrect the pnp does have a section that covers players claiming a camp that they are not camping.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349
In Section 2, Sub section parahraph 2

That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'. In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders (or the room if there are no placeholders) cleared, within the same zone, do not die or log off.

[Coridan]

But also, OP: I, too, don't like it either when people call a camp while not actively clearing it. I think it's bad form. If they're right outside, about to break the camp, then sure. Even if they're clearing at the lilypads, I'd hang back and wait to see if they succeed before trying to beat them to it. But calling it from the zoneline is disgraceful.


Depends on how they're calling it. If I just zone in somewhere and do a CC say at CT, and you hear the usual "AoF CY", "Archon", "Temple" whatever I'd call out "Ok I'm going to Archon CY" and then maybe send a tell to the guy doing Archon making sure he knows.

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/QogGGxj.png

If a player is claiming the uncontested Efreeti/Efreeti trash. But they're actively engaged with beetles. Efreeti/Efreeti trash is not being camped due to no presence and not being very near to the spawn.

Note there is a distinct difference between the words. Claimed, Camped, Uncontested & Contested.

[Swish]

If only you could throw etiquette under the bus and pvp them for the camp? The solution is there, you just picked the server where you chose to be rule abiding Norrathians.

Should efreeti be a /list camp? The pve scene needs more lists as they're incredibly fair.

[Tethler]

If only you could throw etiquette under the bus and pvp them for the camp? The solution is there, you just picked the server where you chose to be rule abiding Norrathians.



We live in a society of rules. Many, many, many, many rules.

The alternative is a dead server. :(

[adichi]

last time i tried doing efreeti we had claimed it in ooc while clearing trash, a duo went ahead of us just casted lull till crit resist and proceeded to train us.

[BlackBellamy]

For any interested in the effect of CHA on lull crit resists, please check out my previous thread here https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=350513

This way you'll be able to tell exactly how long it will take to clear the nobodies out of the room so your fine group can rightfully claim.

[aaezil]

incorrect the pnp does have a section that covers players claiming a camp that they are not camping.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349
In Section 2, Sub section parahraph 2

You mean this quote?

“You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed'”

Looks like you’re wrong here bud

[Tunabros]

kinda sucks how when u call cc and someone "supposely" claims a camp but you don't know that because your not at the camp to see

[Foxplay]

I pretty much never ask for a CC. I always just go to the camps I want and see if someone is camping them.

Then I do this really neat trick where I talk to them like a human being and ask how long they intend to camp and ask if they can send me a tell when they are done. Really a lost art some of you should try it lol

[Arvan]

You mean this quote?

“You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed'”

Looks like you’re wrong here bud

^ Exactly! That baler guy be posting incorrect info about the p99 rules all over the place

[Swish]

We live in a society of rules. Many, many, many, many rules.

https://i.imgur.com/0wJJH5L.png