Kingdumb unimpressive

[axisofebola]

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So i was off in lower guk to do a bit of farming before I had to head off to shoot pool tonight/yesterdrday. i was holding the supplier camp waiting for the AM camp to open,which at the time was held by falsegod. I talked to falsegod and established I would be next for the camp without issue and we chatted about other things as well.


Around the same time Azleep showed up looking to score a mask for their rogue at the sup camp. i told him that I would be leaving the sup as soon as falsehood had left the AM, and he was planning to leave the camp pretty much any minute.

The screenshots show are what followed as falsegod logged off and I went to take the came, and two asshats from kingdom -- Sensational and Treleaf showed up.

the TLDR version is the guild leader of kingdom is a piece of shit. instead of diffusing the situation he appears to have tried exacerbating it on top not knowing some of the basic tenets of the PnP while claiming "I should read them".You can see in the first set of screenshots where he makes a veiled threat of them keeping the camp, and then later Sensational lets it slip that his guild leader had actually told them to hold the camp, not leave it. Busted.

Things to be noted:

The guild leader was given 100% clear, factual information on the situation without any attitude or flourish. He was also given a neutral party to contact if he had any issue with the information given. These issues here are not any of the "grey" areas/rules. The rules about changing over camp ownership via a camp list is cut and dry and impossible to misinterpret.

Robotard made no effort to contact azleep, nor did his two asshat guildmates. Maybe his little brother stole his account and was playing it? Does that still work these days?

i'll be back with more to say later but hitting the sack now. And if you want to talk any shit, do it with your real green name.

[Vallaen]

You were actually in the wrong, also the one to be extremely rude and uncooperative in the matter.

For a list to work and the camp to be handed off to you, falsegod should have stayed logged in for when you get there.

[Spergand]

Stop watching porn it's making you mentally retarded

[DMN]

You were actually in the wrong, also the one to be extremely rude and uncooperative in the matter.

For a list to work and the camp to be handed off to you, falsegod should have stayed logged in for when you get there.

Wrong, mister mysterious-- who hasn't made a post in 6 months but out of the blue decides to post in this thread:

"This person cannot change after the camp holder has "revealed" the next person to take the camp to you. It is an automatic forfeit if this occurs. If you ask to be the next camp holder and are told yes, the camp holder may not later retract or change this agreement and attempt to hand the camp off to someone else - it's yours once he has gotten his item or moved on from the camp."

[BlackBellamy]

You were actually in the wrong, also the one to be extremely rude and uncooperative in the matter.

For a list to work and the camp to be handed off to you, falsegod should have stayed logged in for when you get there.

The citation from the Elf Lore is as such:

"The person handing off the camp must stay at the spawn until the next person in line arrives" - The Wise Derubael (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1652719&postcount=9) (Ret.)

If you really want the camp you need to stay close to it. If you forsake that for the convenience of holding another camp while you wait, then you depend on the other player to be there for the handoff. That's the risk you assume. If something happens to them and you're right there, you're golden. If you're far away and they leave quietly for some reason, the camp is up for grabs.

Assume you log into a dungeon zone. You see a popular camp open and cleared. You call out CC and no one answers. The assumption is that the last person cleared the camp and logged off. Or that he was trained out. Or he went linkdead. You take the camp.

Personally, if I'm waiting for a camp I will answer their CC if they immediately don't. Like I'll say "Bubba has AM and I'm next" if Bubba is quiet for some reason.

The Elf Court rules for Sensational and party, et al.

[Vallaen]

Wrong, mister mysterious-- who hasn't made a post in 6 months but out of the blue decides to post in this thread:

"This person cannot change after the camp holder has "revealed" the next person to take the camp to you. It is an automatic forfeit if this occurs. If you ask to be the next camp holder and are told yes, the camp holder may not later retract or change this agreement and attempt to hand the camp off to someone else - it's yours once he has gotten his item or moved on from the camp."

Falsegod never revealed who was next in the camp to anyone but the poster. After falsegod even left the poster never maintained a presence at the camp

[DMN]

Falsegod never revealed who was next in the camp to anyone but the poster. After falsegod even left the poster never maintained a presence at the camp

Are you saying OP lied about talking to falsegod? He said they already established he was next for camp. You don't need to maintain a presence. Next pargraph:

Something else important to note about handing off camps - in particular, popular ones, but this applies to any camp that becomes contested. If you are solo camping, once you attain the item you were waiting for (an AC ring, for example) you are done camping that mob. The person coming to take the camp had better be prepared at this point in order to come eliminate the very next placeholder spawn in order to "stake his claim" on the mob.

[DMN]

Personally, if I'm waiting for a camp I will answer their CC if they immediately don't. Like I'll say "Bubba has AM and I'm next" if Bubba is quiet for some reason.

The Elf Court rules for Sensational and party, et al.

CC is 100% meaningless. Even if it wasn't, there are no timestamps on any of this stuff. You are just making shit up at this point, but i think we know what guild you are in.

[Baler]

Stop watching porn it's making you mentally retarded

[BlackBellamy]

CC is 100% meaningless. Even if it wasn't, there are no timestamps on any of this stuff. You are just making shit up at this point, but i think we know what guild you are in.

Roleplay this out for me:

You, DMN, log into Lower Guk near the AM spawn.

You scratch your balls (I'm making assumptions but bear with me) and you yawn and you notice the AM camp is clear.

You do a /who

You call out "CC".

No one answers.

You look around the corner.

No one there.

No one even close.

You sit down and wait for the pop.

Three minutes later player X shows up and says "AM is mine. Player Y who was here before gave it to me."

Player Y was not in the zone when you did your /who.

Do you yield?

[BlackBellamy]

You are just making shit up at this point, but i think we know what guild you are in.

My main is in Dial-A-Port. To me everyone is a profusely thankful walking sack of plat.

This is why I'm completely impartial in all Elf Court matters.

[DMN]

Roleplay this out for me:

You, DMN, log into Lower Guk near the AM spawn.

You scratch your balls (I'm making assumptions but bear with me) and you yawn and you notice the AM camp is clear.

You do a /who

You call out "CC".

No one answers.

You look around the corner.

No one there.

No one even close.

You sit down and wait for the pop.

Three minutes later player X shows up and says "AM is mine. Player Y who was here before gave it to me."

Player Y was not in the zone when you did your /who.

Do you yield?

I'd ask in ooc if player Y was camping the AM before.

[Cawin]

gr8 b8 m8. I r8 8/8.

[Castle2.0]

I just have 1 question: Is falsegod in Kingdom?

If someone says you're next in line, and that person doesn't tell you when they log off, that person possibly screwed you out of being next in line.

Pro-tip go to the camp and get a /timetsamped screenshot of them on screen killing PH or named and them saying in OOC you're next.

Mobs don't pop super fast in Guk. If you can get down to the spawn before the next repop, and you got proof the person holding the camp had you as next... it's yours.

If the mob is down and you're at camp, I don't see how it can be contested.

[greenspectre]

I suppose I should put in my attempt at an Elf Paralegal degree, as I am far from a full-fledged Elf Lawyer, and in fact am actually a Barbarian.

My take-

Falsegod is the real screwup in this scenario. I don't see him clearly communicating to OP that he is logging off. That knowledge would have enabled OP to respond to the CC that was called if he so choose, which could have avoided this situation. However, I am curious as to how OP even knew when camp was open, as he is shown handing camp off to Azleep without any indication from Falsegod that it was time. Maybe he was passing the camp to go sit at AM and wait? Falsegod also could have stayed online to maintain presence at the camp until OP got there.

OP is **technically** in the right, assuming him being on the list is accurate, as there is no way to verify that based on what's posted. Technically, if a PH is down, and the camp is NOT contested, OP wouldn't need to maintain a physical presence at the camp. Once the camp IS contested, OP needs to stay there, and that appears to have been his intent once he realized Kingdom was contesting. Kingdom should have OOC'ed that they were claiming AM if they came in and saw the PH was already dead (Yes, this is only a courtesy).

On the other hand, Kingdom members have no way to verify OP's story, as Falsegod is not online anymore to verify, and to them, OP could just be making something up to try to lay claim. OP didn't respond to CC, even though it's only a courtesy. Also, I strongly believe both the Kingdom members and leader maintained a more civil discussion than OP did during this dispute. Especially near the end when OP begins cussing them out and such.

My ruling, were I a GM in that situation: Group up and camp it together, roll for drops. Barring that, I'd give it to Kingdom because OP was extremely hostile over a misunderstanding and DID charm an engaged mob during the dispute.

TLDR: Falsegod needs to communicate better and make an effort to hold camp for next on list. OP should probably respond to CC's even if they're meaningless (Falsegod has AM and I am next) because they DO help avoid drama. Kingdom should OOC that they're claiming a camp if they see PH down and called a CC. Everyone sucks and hats off to Kingdom for scooting because the drama wasn't worth it.

[Fammaden]

This dude said "Kingdumb" so pretty much owned. Grats.

[fastboy21]

Considering how small the bottom area of lguk is and that there are probably three dozen players perma-camped in lguk in the safe hall...prob a dozen camped in the safe corner at AM itself...you really want to be at the camp when the hand-off happens. the odds of someone getting to your camp before you and thinking its theirs is very high.

Best to be at the camp during the hand-off if you don't want a fumble or argument to insue in lguk. Keep in mind that the player who is leaving isn't obliged to wait for you, shout to the zone or even tell you at all that he is leaving. Add into that reality that there are times when someone will want to skip you on purpose so that someone that they want to have the camp can have it.

You're just super better off waiting at the camp you want, if you want to avoid issues like this.

[Albanwr]

I can't believe people argue over Lower Guk crap. Just go buy the robe ffs.

[jerryR]

Assume you log into a dungeon zone. You see a popular camp open and cleared. You call out CC and no one answers. The assumption is that the last person cleared the camp and logged off. Or that he was trained out. Or he went linkdead. You take the camp.

Just like the multi-camp discussion - another scenario wherein a camp is presumed to be open because no one is there. A lot of rules to dance around and protect people that have a ton of different reasons why they can't seem to be at the camp they claim to hold when it pops

[Convict]

I was legit gonna read all of that but decided not to after glancing at the pic, you are a next level shitbag for leaving /afk on throughout 80% of your conversation and deserve to lose the camp on that alone.

You should be mad at falsegod for not giving you sufficient warning he was camping out and adequate time to get there. Kingdom did nothing wrong here and you are extremely lucky they only stayed for a couple re-spawns and let you have it. Way to be an asshat. Part of me wishes they had stayed, and a GM did show up to ban you for interfering with their engagements.

[Xersius]

Axisofeobola...

You're wrong colonel sanders.

[axisofebola]

So again, the rules on are this black and white. Someone posted them earlier. When leaving a camp for any reason the person next for the camp has only to make it to the camp before the PH respawn. It's about the most simple straight forward rule on P99. And in fact the rules even allow some time to elapse between the span and killing it.

Several people have said Falsegod was the bad guy in all this. That's just bullshit. Sure it would have been nice to get an update especially before he physically left the camp.But there is no requirement to tell the next person on the list you are leaving so he broke no server rule there. Further, I was continually coming down to the AM camp between spawns at supplier to clear the hall spawn by the AM. So I'm petty sure he thought id notice he took off and take over camp. He shouldn't need to assume lower guk is suddenly going to add a couple kingdom assholes to try so really bullshit camp thef that was clearly against the rules. Most people in guk follow PnP/sever rules, which was not done here. That's not his fault.

[axisofebola]

And why was the title of this changed from "kingdom cums to AM with an unimpressive load"? I read the rules for or the forum again and see nothing wrong with the title. please explain whomever made this change.

[axisofebola]

I just have 1 question: Is falsegod in Kingdom?


Man I really fucking hope not. I don't tend to keep track of that sort of thing. I don't care what guild someone is in, only if they are assholes/liars/ninjalooters/traiers etc.

[Tankwipe]

rude and uncooperative
op? nooooo

[Sunderfury]

And why was the title of this changed from "kingdom cums to AM with an unimpressive load"? I read the rules for or the forum again and see nothing wrong with the title. please explain whomever made this change.
Please don't try and flex forum rules

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324850

Swearing / Cursing
Keep thread subjects clean. Swearing/Cursing is allowed within threads, to an extent. Don't overdo it.

[Baler]

Please don't try and flex forum rules
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324850


https://i.imgur.com/ekKZXaT.gif

[Nirgon]

pretty brutal thread over an AM camp

I've run into my own issues with these rule interpreters

Things have settled down a bit, and for the better

I'm sure as I level this SK there's gonna be a few dust ups, and DMO will be ready

[sydbarrett25]

Fair game IMO if you are not physically waiting at camp for when original owner leaves.

[OuterChimp]

https://postimg.cc/gXhfyFh8
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So i was off in lower guk to do a bit of farming before I had to head off to shoot pool tonight/yesterdrday. i was holding the supplier camp waiting for the AM camp to open,which at the time was held by falsegod. I talked to falsegod and established I would be next for the camp without issue and we chatted about other things as well.


Around the same time Azleep showed up looking to score a mask for their rogue at the sup camp. i told him that I would be leaving the sup as soon as falsehood had left the AM, and he was planning to leave the camp pretty much any minute.

The screenshots show are what followed as falsegod logged off and I went to take the came, and two asshats from kingdom -- Sensational and Treleaf showed up.

the TLDR version is the guild leader of kingdom is a piece of shit. instead of diffusing the situation he appears to have tried exacerbating it on top not knowing some of the basic tenets of the PnP while claiming "I should read them".You can see in the first set of screenshots where he makes a veiled threat of them keeping the camp, and then later Sensational lets it slip that his guild leader had actually told them to hold the camp, not leave it. Busted.

Things to be noted:

The guild leader was given 100% clear, factual information on the situation without any attitude or flourish. He was also given a neutral party to contact if he had any issue with the information given. These issues here are not any of the "grey" areas/rules. The rules about changing over camp ownership via a camp list is cut and dry and impossible to misinterpret.

Robotard made no effort to contact azleep, nor did his two asshat guildmates. Maybe his little brother stole his account and was playing it? Does that still work these days?

i'll be back with more to say later but hitting the sack now. And if you want to talk any shit, do it with your real green name.

My eyes were assaulted when I clicked on that first link. We should have had a warning.

[charmcitysking]

I was legit gonna read all of that but decided not to after glancing at the pic, you are a next level shitbag for leaving /afk on throughout 80% of your conversation and deserve to lose the camp on that alone.

You should be mad at falsegod for not giving you sufficient warning he was camping out and adequate time to get there. Kingdom did nothing wrong here and you are extremely lucky they only stayed for a couple re-spawns and let you have it. Way to be an asshat. Part of me wishes they had stayed, and a GM did show up to ban you for interfering with their engagements.

all of this

[Tunabros]

Stop watching porn it's making you mentally retarded

lol

[axisofebola]

Fair game IMO if you are not physically waiting at camp for when original owner leaves.

As soon as you make your own server you can start coming up with your own rules, But if you want to play on p99 you play by their rules. If you don't know the rules that's your own problem.

[sydbarrett25]

So why on list camps did you have to actually be there to be on list?

[Cawin]

Feel like OP should take a break from LGuk.

13228

Bonus: plenty of info on VPNs and multiple clients!

[Baler]

No wonder a guide stepped in, good catch Cawin!

[axisofebola]

Heyokah of <Kingdom> Oh boy i have my own kingdom stalkers. Who is your kingdumb toon, grandpa baler?

[adichi]

Heyokah of <Kingdom> Oh boy i have my own kingdom stalkers. Who is your kingdumb toon, grandpa baler?

[Cawin]

https://youtu.be/7YvAYIJSSZY

[Scalem]

Feel like OP should take a break from LGuk.

13228

Bonus: plenty of info on VPNs and multiple clients!

What do you expect from these career unemployeds?

[fastboy21]

What do you expect from these career unemployeds?

I've decided to get a job in professional protesting (not rioting and looting, to start).

If shit collapses I think I could be a bounty hunter in the post-apocalyptic landscape...I'm thinking of a mix between the Gunslinger and Dog the Bounty Hunter for my persona.

[strongNpretty]

I've decided to get a job in professional protesting (not rioting and looting, to start).

If shit collapses I think I could be a bounty hunter in the post-apocalyptic landscape...I'm thinking of a mix between the Gunslinger and Dog the Bounty Hunter for my persona.

As long as you aren't a Patty Mayo, then i'm coo with that. No no not patty mayonaisse...

[Scalem]

I've decided to get a job in professional protesting (not rioting and looting, to start).

If shit collapses I think I could be a bounty hunter in the post-apocalyptic landscape...I'm thinking of a mix between the Gunslinger and Dog the Bounty Hunter for my persona.

Dog has the best haircut so should be an easy choice.

[Kief]

Please don't try and flex forum rules

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324850

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Sunder bro. It's Guava from Red man. Why do you guys put up with so much blatant disrespect from obviously weirdo-esque individuals.

It really lowers the morale of those that legit want to just have some fun gaming and enjoy everything you awesome staff do. But being surrounded by some really fucking weird people is a major boner killer.

I know you guy's do all of this basically for free (besides those of us who donate due to respect and loyalty) but man. Just get rid of these clowns.

Tell Llandris I miss him and said hello for me please mate.
Yer bro Guava Jelly.

[Kief]

Also some insight into the leader of Kingdom.

I had good luck with the Lord in Lguk and happened to get double SSOYs back to back. I forget his name (was a mage leading at the time - sorry for my bad memory bro!) But I gave a Yak to him free because he said his son really could use one.

Forward a few weeks later and he tells me how his son literally saved their entire Hate raid due to the yak procs goin' off like mad! You could see it was a genuinely awesome moment between a father and a son and he was stoked as heck.

That is the kind of stuff you can't buy - genuine good feeling gratitude. Just him relating that to me makes me think highly of him - and most of his guild.

They are good folks - especially the mage guy leading - if it's still him. So before you cast a stone, you should get to know people man!

Sheeeesh,
yer Green server pal Keeth

[drackgon]

That mage guy is no longer in kingdom, and wasnt the guild leader. fyi. But he is an amazing guy, so is his son(who did save a hate raid was epic)

[Sunderfury]

being surrounded by some really fucking weird people is a major boner killer.

Respectively disagree.

[Cawin]

Respectively disagree.

Can't kill this guy's boner. It's why they pay him the big bucks.

[Kief]

Respectively disagree.

Lol made me laugh but man - you know what I meant butthead!

<3!!

[BlackBellamy]

If you ever promise a camp to someone and then go linkdead you have to run to your car and drive to your uncle's house topspeed with your EQ install on a thumbstick and when you get there you kick your pedo uncle off his box and install EQ and just hope you can log in and make the necessary amends before the pedo police show up.

[Castle2.0]

If you ever promise a camp to someone and then go linkdead you have to run to your car and drive to your uncle's house topspeed with your EQ install on a thumbstick and when you get there you kick your pedo uncle off his box and install EQ and just hope you can log in and make the necessary amends before the pedo police show up. Too many "unknown error" at login. Had to just call it quits when the police asked to take possession of his computer =*(

[axisofebola]

https://i.postimg.cc/W49hvzhd/kingdumb.png

Looks like kingdumb is channeling a bit of macequest.

[Nirgon]

Also some insight into the leader of Kingdom.

I had good luck with the Lord in Lguk and happened to get double SSOYs back to back. I forget his name (was a mage leading at the time - sorry for my bad memory bro!) But I gave a Yak to him free because he said his son really could use one.

Forward a few weeks later and he tells me how his son literally saved their entire Hate raid due to the yak procs goin' off like mad! You could see it was a genuinely awesome moment between a father and a son and he was stoked as heck.

That is the kind of stuff you can't buy - genuine good feeling gratitude. Just him relating that to me makes me think highly of him - and most of his guild.

They are good folks - especially the mage guy leading - if it's still him. So before you cast a stone, you should get to know people man!

Sheeeesh,
yer Green server pal Keeth

I think this is why Gathered Might was formed

[Kohedron]

ah yes, I'm going to read something the length of The Bible to partake in routine nerd drama.

[Champion_Standing]

Immersed: A Novella

[Asteria]

Who let the simpleton outta the asylum?? :confused::eek:

[Asteria]

Kingdom has some really great people in it. :) I'd probably still be with them if I didn't have to take a break from raiding and EQ for an extended perioid.

[Wutaan]

OP you're an idiot, they called for CC and you didn't respond, THEN they offered to take your word for it and you still decided to sperg out about it. I once did a monk kind of dirty at AC a few months ago where he was on a list but I had a guildy there so instead of him handing it off I came in and took camp while he afk'd. One of my greedier moments but me and the monk eventually came to terms and shared the camp agreeing to split the plat on drops (it helps at the time and our levels soloing the camp was not easy and great xp)

The point i'm making is we worked it out, had some great conversations and XP, sadly no plat was made while he stuck around but tis the life of people who are well adjusted people (as much as a 20 year old elf sim addict can be).

[axisofebola]

OP you're an idiot, they called for CC

CC is mealiness as the post you just wrote..


and you didn't respond,


I responded in person within 2 minutes of their CC. Learn to read dumb fuck.


THEN they offered to take your word for it and you still decided to sperg out about it. .

Quite the contrary, they explicitly said they weren't going to take my word for it.

They GTFO because they knew they would be fucked the moment a guide or GM arrived, and/or they realized their GL was a fucking idiot.

[Cawin]

They GTFO because they knew they would be fucked the moment a guide or GM arrived,


Bahahahaha

[Jauna]

tldr please

[Dennar]

Wow! OP got screwed, but not by Kingdom. OP was not given the camp as the previous camp holder ghosted. OP was not at the camp to maintain any reasonable possibility of claim. OP initially tried to explain he had a history with the previous camp holder that he would be next, but had no reasonable/verifiable evidence (strangers in zone usually dont count).

OP absolutely violated rules by charming an engaged mob. I wouldn't expect a GM to side with OP and if they did I would be very curious as to what rule/evidence they would cite as their reason.

[RecondoJoe]

If you were in Lower Guk camping AM and someone showed up and told you that the camp belonged to them because someone who isn't online told them that they could have it whenever they wanted, would you vacate the camp? I probably wouldn't. (Except in this case I probably would rather camp Halfling guards for 2-3 hours and buy an SMR versus camping AM for days to walk away with Silversilk Leggings you can't even give away).

[axisofebola]

Wow! OP got screwed, but not by Kingdom. OP was not given the camp as the previous camp holder ghosted. OP was not at the camp to maintain any reasonable possibility of claim. OP initially tried to explain he had a history with the previous camp holder that he would be next, but had no reasonable/verifiable evidence (strangers in zone usually dont count).

OP absolutely violated rules by charming an engaged mob. I wouldn't expect a GM to side with OP and if they did I would be very curious as to what rule/evidence they would cite as their reason.

Post with your real green name kingdumb cunt. I didn't violaterules because they said they just wanted the AM spawn the charmed mob was the non PH at the camp, hence they already said they didn't want it. Secondarily, kingdumb cunt, read the fucking rules:

If you ask to be the next camp holder and are told yes, the camp holder may not later retract or change this agreement and attempt to hand the camp off to someone else - it's yours once he has gotten his item or moved on from the camp.

[Vallaen]

Post with your real green name kingdumb cunt. I didn't violaterules because they said they just wanted the AM spawn the charmed mob was the non PH at the camp, hence they already said they didn't want it. Secondarily, kingdumb cunt, read the fucking rules:

If you ask to be the next camp holder and are told yes, the camp holder may not later retract or change this agreement and attempt to hand the camp off to someone else - it's yours once he has gotten his item or moved on from the camp.

Whats the next line.

[Cawin]

Seems like a balanced, reasonable dude.

[axisofebola]

Whats the next line.

Something else important to note about handing off camps - in particular, popular ones, but this applies to any camp that becomes contested. If you are solo camping, once you attain the item you were waiting for (an AC ring, for example) you are done camping that mob. The person coming to take the camp had better be prepared at this point in order to come eliminate the very next placeholder spawn in order to "stake his claim" on the mob. You cannot work wacky corpse lines on lore items in order to grab multiple items in the same "camp session" if there are others waiting to take the camp. Please be aware that we reserve the right to apply this same ruling to any camp if we deem it necessary, including camps with multiple players.

[Dennar]

Post with your real green name kingdumb cunt. I didn't violaterules because they said they just wanted the AM spawn the charmed mob was the non PH at the camp, hence they already said they didn't want it. Secondarily, kingdumb cunt, read the fucking rules:

If you ask to be the next camp holder and are told yes, the camp holder may not later retract or change this agreement and attempt to hand the camp off to someone else - it's yours once he has gotten his item or moved on from the camp.

BlackBellamy already posted this at the begining, but ill post the link again here. https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1652719&postcount=9

You cherry picked the part you think sounds the best for you. However, you keep ignoring the part everyone else is pointing to.

"1) The player being handed the camp must be present around the time the first placeholder spawns after the last holder of the camp has gotten his or her item in hand. The person handing off the camp must stay at the spawn until the next person in line arrives, if that person is on their way to take the camp. There is a little leeway here, and we refuse to set an exact timer on how long the placeholder can be up before the camp is forfeited, but in general it should never be for more than a couple minutes or so. We tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the person coming in to take the camp in these situations as CSR staff, so waiting a bit longer will never hurt."


The part that says "The person handing off the camp must stay at the spawn until the next person in line arrives, if that person is on their way to take the camp."

This is the part where you get screwed. While the previous camp holder may have told you that you were next in line. He never actually handed the camp to you. Its a grey area because he didn't violate the rules by handing it to someone else instead of you, he just ghosted and never formally handed it to you. Since you were not at the camp to take it over when he left, or have it handed to you, it is considered to be an open camp. Sorry bro.

[Asteria]

Also some insight into the leader of Kingdom.

I had good luck with the Lord in Lguk and happened to get double SSOYs back to back. I forget his name (was a mage leading at the time - sorry for my bad memory bro!) But I gave a Yak to him free because he said his son really could use one.

Forward a few weeks later and he tells me how his son literally saved their entire Hate raid due to the yak procs goin' off like mad! You could see it was a genuinely awesome moment between a father and a son and he was stoked as heck.

That is the kind of stuff you can't buy - genuine good feeling gratitude. Just him relating that to me makes me think highly of him - and most of his guild.

They are good folks - especially the mage guy leading - if it's still him. So before you cast a stone, you should get to know people man!

Sheeeesh,
yer Green server pal Keeth

[DMN]

BlackBellamy already posted this at the begining, but ill post the link again here. https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1652719&postcount=9

You cherry picked the part you think sounds the best for you. However, you keep ignoring the part everyone else is pointing to.

"1) The player being handed the camp must be present around the time the first placeholder spawns after the last holder of the camp has gotten his or her item in hand. The person handing off the camp must stay at the spawn until the next person in line arrives, if that person is on their way to take the camp. There is a little leeway here, and we refuse to set an exact timer on how long the placeholder can be up before the camp is forfeited, but in general it should never be for more than a couple minutes or so. We tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the person coming in to take the camp in these situations as CSR staff, so waiting a bit longer will never hurt."


The part that says "The person handing off the camp must stay at the spawn until the next person in line arrives, if that person is on their way to take the camp."

This is the part where you get screwed. While the previous camp holder may have told you that you were next in line. He never actually handed the camp to you. Its a grey area because he didn't violate the rules by handing it to someone else instead of you, he just ghosted and never formally handed it to you. Since you were not at the camp to take it over when he left, or have it handed to you, it is considered to be an open camp. Sorry bro.


Unfortunately Bellamy flunked out of elf law school. The camp was not "handed off". The previous camp holder lost his rights to it and the "person who is next" gained them.

the rules would make zero sense interpreted any other way and the entire "who is next" would be useless as people could easily abuse it by just logging and letting their friends get camp despite having told someone else they were next.

This looks like pretty open and shut elf law.

[Asteria]

Post with your real green name kingdumb cunt. I didn't violaterules because they said they just wanted the AM spawn the charmed mob was the non PH at the camp, hence they already said they didn't want it. Secondarily, kingdumb cunt, read the fucking rules:

If you ask to be the next camp holder and are told yes, the camp holder may not later retract or change this agreement and attempt to hand the camp off to someone else - it's yours once he has gotten his item or moved on from the camp.

My Lord, I've seen mushrooms with bigger brains! :eek::o

[cannobeers3]

OP seems fine without medication.

[douglas1999]

OP has not once mentioned whether or not he is gay

close thread ban op