So is AFK leveling now allowed?

[RecondoJoe]

This is not a troll post, it's a serious question, because I see everyone else doing it.

Kind of confused about how it's not okay to go AFK while your pet kills stuff for you, but it's entirely legal to go AFK while someone else's pet kills stuff for you.

[Snortles Chortles]

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[radda]

"someone"

[Baler]

Project 1999 Play Nice Policy (PNP) - Server Rules and Expectations (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349)

Section 3

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/ngtv1IT.gif

[Tankwipe]

Oh hey you're still around how'd that special surgery for your genitals go?

[DMN]

Kind of confused about how it's not okay to go AFK while your pet kills stuff for you, but it's entirely legal to go AFK while someone else's pet kills stuff for you.

Because that "someone else" is not afk.

[nycfla]

Because that "someone else" is not afk.

Except when they are. Here are Imortaal and Mylk from Castle doing exactly that

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s43wHVqfwsw

[Tankwipe]

Except when they are. Here are Imortaal and Mylk from Castle doing exactly that

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s43wHVqfwsw
They seem petition-proof /shrug

[onlyrockerfan]

"someone"

GTFO dude

[DMN]

Except when they are. Here are Imortaal and Mylk from Castle doing exactly that

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s43wHVqfwsw

unfortunately it's not going to be easy to prove that the mage is AFK. And you certainly have not done so here.

[Mead]

didn't know tdmoo were such pussies

also horrible proof

I would sit there and not respond too if we were competing just to see threads like these

[nycfla]

didn't know tdmoo were such pussies

also horrible proof

I would sit there and not respond too if we were competing just to see threads like these

Nah we weren’t competing I was just camping a single spawn and noticed it going on

[nycfla]

unfortunately it's not going to be easy to prove that the mage is AFK. And you certainly have not done so here.

Yeah I mean I have more videos of the exact same thing going on for over an hour. Sure I’ll agree that from a technical perspective they don’t prove it fully because they can’t, but it went on for a very long time. By the time a staff member sent me a tell that they were going to check it out the mage came back and was nuking again so they dodged the bullet

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/uifnZkI.png

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/CVqEFVH.gif?noredirect

[Tankwipe]

https://i.imgur.com/CVqEFVH.gif?noredirect

ok now sing baka mitai

[RecondoJoe]

Because that "someone else" is not afk.

Do you understand how easy this makes 2-boxing? I’ve had a paid VPN service for YEARS. So can I now AFK camp my alts and PL them with my main character? Like how exactly can a GM do a 2-box test if the other player is allegedly AFK? I already know the answer because I’m starting to see this happen everywhere. I’ve never thought about cheating, but now I feel like an idiot who is gimping himself because everyone else I know is doing it.

[Tankwipe]

Do you understand how easy this makes 2-boxing? I’ve had a paid VPN service for YEARS. So can I now AFK camp my alts and PL them with my main character? Like how exactly can a GM do a 2-box test if the other player is allegedly AFK? I already know the answer because I’m starting to see this happen everywhere. I’ve never thought about cheating, but now I feel like an idiot who is gimping himself because everyone else I know is doing it.

i encourage you to try boxing

[RecondoJoe]

i encourage you to try boxing

How’s Hadden doing, Cabbie?

[Tankwipe]

How’s Hadden doing, Cabbie?

I was sleepy one night and forgot to loot and logged and haven't been back since outta shame :/

[casperinmd]

Except when they are. Here are Imortaal and Mylk from Castle doing exactly that

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s43wHVqfwsw

How the hell is that AFK killing? 10 second clip of a pet killing a guard? Do you not know how mages work? lol
While I don't know what you do for a living, I am 100% sure you are not a detective.

[LeroyJenkins]

Except when they are. Here are Imortaal and Mylk from Castle doing exactly that

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s43wHVqfwsw

quit trying to flame people with exaggerated claims and move on

[Dreenk317]

Do you understand how easy this makes 2-boxing? I’ve had a paid VPN service for YEARS. So can I now AFK camp my alts and PL them with my main character? Like how exactly can a GM do a 2-box test if the other player is allegedly AFK? I already know the answer because I’m starting to see this happen everywhere. I’ve never thought about cheating, but now I feel like an idiot who is gimping himself because everyone else I know is doing it.

Its really simple. The GM's come and observe, if they see one or both players not moving for long enough, they issue a test. If one player is "afk", iirc, they give you 5 mins or whatever it is to come back before its assumed your a box and the banhammer drops. GM's have said multiple times if you have to afk for more than 10-15 mins its best to just log out so as to not risk a boxing test if your in a duo/trio.

[Nuggie]

How long does one have to be afk to be considered "too long" afk?
Can I go take a piss? a dump? Sometimes that takes a while when things turn into a shit-to-shower situation.
Can I go make a sandwich?
Talk my wife off the ledge?
Can I sit there youtubing on another screen while pet kills stuff?

Also, does anyone know what situation nilbog put this rule in place for or how the original intent of the rule has been misinterpreted since then? Does anyone care? Are folks so self righteous that they think they can apply it like a blanket to any situation?

[k9quaint]

On green? Not sure anyone cares.

[vans21emu]

Obviously salty when another mage took your spot / guard camp.
Boohoo ~ I am gonna record him and put it on youtube and P99 forum to get him flamed.

Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.

[nycfla]

How the hell is that AFK killing? 10 second clip of a pet killing a guard? Do you not know how mages work? lol
While I don't know what you do for a living, I am 100% sure you are not a detective.

I have many clips over a very long time of this going on. The Mage parks their pet to aggro two of the guards upon spawn and the pet kills them. Neither player moves and the Mage doesn’t nuke. I didn’t post all of the links because I figured people had better things to do than watch a million minutes of people AFK exping, but if you’re saying you have all that free time I’d be happy to post the rest of the videos from over an hour of this happening

[nycfla]

Obviously salty when another mage took your spot / guard camp.
Boohoo ~ I am gonna record him and put it on youtube and P99 forum to get him flamed.

Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.

Try again. I was working from home and only wanted one of the spawns so that I could get some exp every 6:40. So no, they weren’t taking any camp of mine. They were killing those two and I was killing one spawn. I began recording videos once I saw them start doing this for an extended period of time

[LeroyJenkins]

I have many clips over a very long time of this going on. The Mage parks their pet to aggro two of the guards upon spawn and the pet kills them. Neither player moves and the Mage doesn’t nuke. I didn’t post all of the links because I figured people had better things to do than watch a million minutes of people AFK exping, but if you’re saying you have all that free time I’d be happy to post the rest of the videos from over an hour of this happening

I’ll save you the trouble...

[Sun Aug 02 12:32:28 2020] Jabobn says, 'Hail, Gobanab'
[Sun Aug 02 12:32:35 2020] Jabobn says, 'Hail'
[Sun Aug 02 12:32:48 2020] Jabobn says, 'could i take freddy if you guys are camping these two other guards?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:32:56 2020] You say, 'This gnome would give you a belly ache'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:05 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:13 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:23 2020] Jabobn says, 'all good if i take freddy?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:30 2020] You say, 'We aare doing the 3'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:37 2020] Jabobn says, 'okay so can we compromise?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:47 2020] Jabobn says, 'yall take the two and i take one spawn'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:51 2020] You say, 'You can have the tower'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:58 2020] Jabobn says, 'tower is camped'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:58 2020] You say, 'I have a mage on the list already '
[Sun Aug 02 12:34:28 2020] Jabobn says, 'so per the pnp its an outdoor zone, you cant claim more than one spawn technically (sorry to rule lawyer), so could i take freddy and you guys take these two?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:34:45 2020] You say, 'Ok, i'll /tell the mage waiting, sorry he will have fredrick'
[Sun Aug 02 12:36:32 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'ill take freddy until the list mage gets here then he can have him. sound cool?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:37:12 2020] You told jabobn, 'I will keep fred as he drops sword'
[Sun Aug 02 12:37:31 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'ok then which bridge guard can i have?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:37:31 2020] You say, 'you can have westyn or none'
[Sun Aug 02 12:37:38 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'all good if you want fred for the platy'
[Sun Aug 02 12:39:30 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:39:39 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 12:39:39 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'should i take westyn?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:39:43 2020] You told Jabobn, 'yes'
[Sun Aug 02 12:40:20 2020] Jabobn says, 'ty guys'
[Sun Aug 02 12:40:42 2020] Jabobn says, 'happy to trio as well if youd like'
[Sun Aug 02 12:44:48 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 12:49:22 2020] Jabobn says out of character, 'i can someone you a nightvision necklace atsk bridge if ya want'
[Sun Aug 02 12:49:29 2020] Jabobn says out of character, 'at sk*'
[Sun Aug 02 12:49:43 2020] Jabobn says out of character, 'lol'
[Sun Aug 02 12:50:39 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:51:06 2020] You begin casting Burnout II.
[Sun Aug 02 12:51:18 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 12:53:52 2020] Jabobn says, 'i do appreciate you guys being willing to compromise. just wanted to say thank you again'
[Sun Aug 02 12:57:33 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:57:40 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 12:57:53 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 12:59:32 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:59:40 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:06:14 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:06:22 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:12:33 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:12:45 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:15:14 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 13:18:57 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:19:03 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:19:11 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:20:14 2020] You begin casting Burnout II.
[Sun Aug 02 13:39:25 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'you still get exp for these at 41?'
[Sun Aug 02 13:39:50 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:39:58 2020] You begin casting Lesser Conjuration: Fire.
[Sun Aug 02 13:44:39 2020] You told Jabobn, 'yes'
[Sun Aug 02 13:45:05 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'ah gotcha so just letting the bard leach some exp off you? nice of ya! lol'
[Sun Aug 02 13:45:37 2020] You told Jabobn, 'yes b/c bards can' t solo efficiently'
[Sun Aug 02 13:46:44 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:46:51 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:46:54 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:47:11 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 13:49:37 2020] You begin casting Sword of Runes.
[Sun Aug 02 13:49:49 2020] You begin casting Sword of Runes.
[Sun Aug 02 13:53:14 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:53:27 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:53:37 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:53:58 2020] You begin casting Lesser Conjuration: Fire.
[Sun Aug 02 14:00:44 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 14:04:19 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'cant they swarm? or is the limit still 4 for the aoe and hasnt gone up to 25 yet?'
[Sun Aug 02 14:06:27 2020] You begin casting Burnout II.
[Sun Aug 02 14:07:00 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'ostyn aggro'
[Sun Aug 02 14:07:52 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 14:08:22 2020] You begin casting Lesser Conjuration: Fire.
[Sun Aug 02 14:09:01 2020] You told Jabobn, 'cant swarm b/c you get 1 mob per camp'
[Sun Aug 02 14:09:48 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'true, harder to find big outdoor areas in classic where you have a ton of wandering mobs that no one is trying to camp. kunark better for that'
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:03 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:11 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:22 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:32 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:45 2020] You begin casting Sword of Runes.
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:58 2020] You begin casting Sword of Runes.
[Sun Aug 02 14:20:15 2020] You begin casting Burnout II.
[Sun Aug 02 14:21:18 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'heading out gl'
[Sun Aug 02 14:21:24 2020] You told Jabobn, 'u 2'

[kaev]

I’ll save you the trouble...



I'd like to rofl, but it's more of a yawn. No reflection on you tho, it's just we've seen the show the OP tryin to put on a few times before...

[nycfla]

I’ll save you the trouble...

[Sun Aug 02 12:32:28 2020] Jabobn says, 'Hail, Gobanab'
[Sun Aug 02 12:32:35 2020] Jabobn says, 'Hail'
[Sun Aug 02 12:32:48 2020] Jabobn says, 'could i take freddy if you guys are camping these two other guards?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:32:56 2020] You say, 'This gnome would give you a belly ache'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:05 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:13 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:23 2020] Jabobn says, 'all good if i take freddy?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:30 2020] You say, 'We aare doing the 3'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:37 2020] Jabobn says, 'okay so can we compromise?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:47 2020] Jabobn says, 'yall take the two and i take one spawn'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:51 2020] You say, 'You can have the tower'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:58 2020] Jabobn says, 'tower is camped'
[Sun Aug 02 12:33:58 2020] You say, 'I have a mage on the list already '
[Sun Aug 02 12:34:28 2020] Jabobn says, 'so per the pnp its an outdoor zone, you cant claim more than one spawn technically (sorry to rule lawyer), so could i take freddy and you guys take these two?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:34:45 2020] You say, 'Ok, i'll /tell the mage waiting, sorry he will have fredrick'
[Sun Aug 02 12:36:32 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'ill take freddy until the list mage gets here then he can have him. sound cool?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:37:12 2020] You told jabobn, 'I will keep fred as he drops sword'
[Sun Aug 02 12:37:31 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'ok then which bridge guard can i have?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:37:31 2020] You say, 'you can have westyn or none'
[Sun Aug 02 12:37:38 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'all good if you want fred for the platy'
[Sun Aug 02 12:39:30 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:39:39 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 12:39:39 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'should i take westyn?'
[Sun Aug 02 12:39:43 2020] You told Jabobn, 'yes'
[Sun Aug 02 12:40:20 2020] Jabobn says, 'ty guys'
[Sun Aug 02 12:40:42 2020] Jabobn says, 'happy to trio as well if youd like'
[Sun Aug 02 12:44:48 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 12:49:22 2020] Jabobn says out of character, 'i can someone you a nightvision necklace atsk bridge if ya want'
[Sun Aug 02 12:49:29 2020] Jabobn says out of character, 'at sk*'
[Sun Aug 02 12:49:43 2020] Jabobn says out of character, 'lol'
[Sun Aug 02 12:50:39 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:51:06 2020] You begin casting Burnout II.
[Sun Aug 02 12:51:18 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 12:53:52 2020] Jabobn says, 'i do appreciate you guys being willing to compromise. just wanted to say thank you again'
[Sun Aug 02 12:57:33 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:57:40 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 12:57:53 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 12:59:32 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 12:59:40 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:06:14 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:06:22 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:12:33 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:12:45 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:15:14 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 13:18:57 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:19:03 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:19:11 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:20:14 2020] You begin casting Burnout II.
[Sun Aug 02 13:39:25 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'you still get exp for these at 41?'
[Sun Aug 02 13:39:50 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:39:58 2020] You begin casting Lesser Conjuration: Fire.
[Sun Aug 02 13:44:39 2020] You told Jabobn, 'yes'
[Sun Aug 02 13:45:05 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'ah gotcha so just letting the bard leach some exp off you? nice of ya! lol'
[Sun Aug 02 13:45:37 2020] You told Jabobn, 'yes b/c bards can' t solo efficiently'
[Sun Aug 02 13:46:44 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:46:51 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:46:54 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:47:11 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 13:49:37 2020] You begin casting Sword of Runes.
[Sun Aug 02 13:49:49 2020] You begin casting Sword of Runes.
[Sun Aug 02 13:53:14 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:53:27 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 13:53:37 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 13:53:58 2020] You begin casting Lesser Conjuration: Fire.
[Sun Aug 02 14:00:44 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 14:04:19 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'cant they swarm? or is the limit still 4 for the aoe and hasnt gone up to 25 yet?'
[Sun Aug 02 14:06:27 2020] You begin casting Burnout II.
[Sun Aug 02 14:07:00 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'ostyn aggro'
[Sun Aug 02 14:07:52 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 14:08:22 2020] You begin casting Lesser Conjuration: Fire.
[Sun Aug 02 14:09:01 2020] You told Jabobn, 'cant swarm b/c you get 1 mob per camp'
[Sun Aug 02 14:09:48 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'true, harder to find big outdoor areas in classic where you have a ton of wandering mobs that no one is trying to camp. kunark better for that'
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:03 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:11 2020] You begin casting Blaze.
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:22 2020] You begin casting Cinder Bolt.
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:32 2020] --You have looted a Fine Steel Short Sword.--
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:45 2020] You begin casting Sword of Runes.
[Sun Aug 02 14:14:58 2020] You begin casting Sword of Runes.
[Sun Aug 02 14:20:15 2020] You begin casting Burnout II.
[Sun Aug 02 14:21:18 2020] Jabobn tells you, 'heading out gl'
[Sun Aug 02 14:21:24 2020] You told Jabobn, 'u 2'

Hmm that’s interesting considering I have video of you killing two guards with your pet (without nukes) for that whole period of time and you only came back and started nuking at the end around when I told you I was leaving. But I guess writing a log makes it real!

This also does not account for the Bard who didn’t move the entire time. But yeah he’s just a friend who you are leveling up using your pet right? And you both have the same surname?

And what about the time where I saw you both sitting AFK right next to each other for 2 hours next to the SK bridge and you both logged at exactly the same time? Not saying that’s definitive proof of anything, but seems kind of suspect that two real people would both AFK for two hours right next to each other and log at exactly the same time. When put in the context of your AFK leveling which multiple people have petitioned you for, it starts to paint a bit more of a picture.

But hey I applaud your ingenuity I suppose

[nycfla]

I’d also add that you sent me a private message on here from that forum account claiming you were the Bard (I still have the message)...but I guess you’re actually the mage based on your logs? Which one are you? Or are you both...

[KansasComrade]

I’d also add that you sent me a private message on here from that forum account claiming you were the Bard (I still have the message)...but I guess you’re actually the mage based on your logs? Which one are you? Or are you both...

page 4 heating up

[LeroyJenkins]

I’d also add that you sent me a private message on here from that forum account claiming you were the Bard (I still have the message)...but I guess you’re actually the mage based on your logs? Which one are you? Or are you both...

Who hurt you man? lol. Good to know you actually read the private message considering you never responded. Not my logs, it’s obviously Immortaal’s who shared that in my discord when you decided to continue on your quest to lie your way around multiple posts. As mentioned in my private message, I offered for you to address it with me if you’d like, but you ignored and here you still are.

Not even going to get started with all the inconsistencies in your stories after you were made aware he wasn’t AFK multiple times (and you indeed saw me move, sorry I’m a bard lol...). Seriously man. Make some friends and and have fun playing v. trying to throw shade at people’s names for whatever it is you’re clearly upset about.

[Vaarsuvius]

I have many clips over a very long time of this going on. The Mage parks their pet to aggro two of the guards upon spawn and the pet kills them. Neither player moves and the Mage doesn’t nuke. I didn’t post all of the links because I figured people had better things to do than watch a million minutes of people AFK exping, but if you’re saying you have all that free time I’d be happy to post the rest of the videos from over an hour of this happening
Only reason I can see to park one's pet at a mob spawn loc is to get instant aggro when it pops to prevent it from buffing, or to prevent people from 'accidentally' FTEing QM in SK (hi Soccerlegs)

Mage would only get half xp this way anyway and I really doubt a pet could solo 2 blue cons without a single heal/ nuke from their master when you get near lvl 30. Can't remember at what level mobs started to hit too hard for fluffy to handle a couple mobs on its own, but this would really be the sort of bet I would not take while being afk even with DS & burnout on pet

[LeroyJenkins]

I'd like to rofl, but it's more of a yawn. No reflection on you tho, it's just we've seen the show the OP tryin to put on a few times before...

Amen

[Nuggie]

Only reason I can see to park one's pet at a mob spawn loc is to get instant aggro when it pops to prevent it from buffing, or to prevent people from 'accidentally' FTEing QM in SK (hi Soccerlegs)

Mage would only get half xp this way anyway and I really doubt a pet could solo 2 blue cons without a single heal/ nuke from their master when you get near lvl 30. Can't remember at what level mobs started to hit too hard for fluffy to handle a couple mobs on its own, but this would really be the sort of bet I would not take while being afk even with DS & burnout on pet

I believe the 34 mage pet's regen bumps up to 30 per tic. If the mobs were spaced out enough it's definately doable with some mobs. I'm assuming this is HK? They are soft enough to make it happen.

[nycfla]

Only reason I can see to park one's pet at a mob spawn loc is to get instant aggro when it pops to prevent it from buffing, or to prevent people from 'accidentally' FTEing QM in SK (hi Soccerlegs)

Mage would only get half xp this way anyway and I really doubt a pet could solo 2 blue cons without a single heal/ nuke from their master when you get near lvl 30. Can't remember at what level mobs started to hit too hard for fluffy to handle a couple mobs on its own, but this would really be the sort of bet I would not take while being afk even with DS & burnout on pet

Normally you would be correct, but in this case the Mage was level 40 something and was using the level 39 pet whose HP is obviously much higher and is more powerful, but the real plus for the 39 pet is that’s it’s HP regen is super fast compared to earlier pets. It can easily take down a level 30 mob and be ready to go for another one like a minute or two later.

[nycfla]

Who hurt you man? lol. Good to know you actually read the private message considering you never responded. Not my logs, it’s obviously Immortaal’s who shared that in my discord when you decided to continue on your quest to lie your way around multiple posts. As mentioned in my private message, I offered for you to address it with me if you’d like, but you ignored and here you still are.

Not even going to get started with all the inconsistencies in your stories after you were made aware he wasn’t AFK multiple times (and you indeed saw me move, sorry I’m a bard lol...). Seriously man. Make some friends and and have fun playing v. trying to throw shade at people’s names for whatever it is you’re clearly upset about.

So just to summarize, the Mage cares so much about clearing his name. So he edited some logs but then sent them to you to post instead of posting them himself? Sounds a little odd. Why wouldn’t he just post them? Seems more like you forgot you sent me that message about how you were the Bard and then posted your logs from the Mage.

As for you moving, you moved at the beginning when the Mage was also nuking (you moved just to loot). However once the Mage went AFK the Bard also did. The Bard sat at the end of the bridge outside of aggro range for like an hour while the Mage pet killed the spawns, which I have the videos to show as I’ve noted. I’d also add that I also know you were both fully AFK because I watched Freddy rot multiple times without being looted when he would run out onto the bridge instead of toward the spires. He died right in front of the Bard at least several times and “you” didn’t get up to loot him.

[Kohedron]

Wow OP was so impressed with himself with this thread

[LeroyJenkins]

So just to summarize, the Mage cares so much about clearing his name. So he edited some logs but then sent them to you to post instead of posting them himself? Sounds a little odd. Why wouldn’t he just post them? Seems more like you forgot you sent me that message about how you were the Bard and then posted your logs from the Mage.

As for you moving, you moved at the beginning when the Mage was also nuking (you moved just to loot). However once the Mage went AFK the Bard also did. The Bard sat at the end of the bridge outside of aggro range for like an hour while the Mage pet killed the spawns, which I have the videos to show as I’ve noted. I’d also add that I also know you were both fully AFK because I watched Freddy rot multiple times without being looted when he would run out onto the bridge instead of toward the spires. He died right in front of the Bard at least several times and “you” didn’t get up to loot him.

Since you seem overly persistent to prove you're not delusional, so I’ll leave you with this. Nothing was edited as you claim to salvage your point - I take it you’re not denying the convo that was included in the logs where he immediately responded (It was a nice attempt to catch him slipping lol). Deep down inside you know you’re fighting a lost cause so you’re choosing the route of defamation to achieve whatever your agenda is. The reason he isn’t responding in this thread is because he doesn’t want to deal with your drama, which is clearly the right move so I’ll do the same. You’ll go one and continue to claim fake news, AFK for hours, dual box, etc, etc....so rant away. Whatever give you purpose in life. I respect your dedication, but kids, this is what happens when people take pixels too serious.

[cd288]

So just to summarize, the Mage cares so much about clearing his name. So he edited some logs but then sent them to you to post instead of posting them himself? Sounds a little odd. Why wouldn’t he just post them? Seems more like you forgot you sent me that message about how you were the Bard and then posted your logs from the Mage.

As for you moving, you moved at the beginning when the Mage was also nuking (you moved just to loot). However once the Mage went AFK the Bard also did. The Bard sat at the end of the bridge outside of aggro range for like an hour while the Mage pet killed the spawns, which I have the videos to show as I’ve noted. I’d also add that I also know you were both fully AFK because I watched Freddy rot multiple times without being looted when he would run out onto the bridge instead of toward the spires. He died right in front of the Bard at least several times and “you” didn’t get up to loot him.

Not surprised. I've seen them do this in multiple locations too. Based on the log the guy posted, it looks like they initially tried to keep from sharing the camp too, which is par for the course with these two guys in my experience (although quite possible not actually two guys lol). I remember in that other deleted thread from a few weeks ago there were other people who commented saying they had also seen them doing suspect stuff.

[Vaarsuvius]

Normally you would be correct, but in this case the Mage was level 40 something and was using the level 39 pet whose HP is obviously much higher and is more powerful, but the real plus for the 39 pet is that’s it’s HP regen is super fast compared to earlier pets. It can easily take down a level 30 mob and be ready to go for another one like a minute or two later.

I respectfully beg to disagree. As a former epic Arch Mage on Live and a magician in my mid 50s on blue, I yet have to see such a pet with fungi like regen powers or get a pet that chain pulls mobs while I play /gems & profit from free xp.
Unless we're talking lvl 4-8 focused fire pets in a Steamfont kobold camp. Even a couple Crushbone cents and Legos would rip my focused pet a new one and had me running for the ZL

39+ pets with their improved regen rate only get about 1.5-2% hp/ tick when sitting, nothing off the charts.
I've read your posts a couple of times and yet have to understand if we're talking about 2 mages and a single pet or 2 mages and 2 pets

Anyway those pets (not sure what kind either) are actual lvl31 to 33mobs. Even if they're focused with a with torch/ stein/ shovel, I really doubt a single one of them could handle a couple mobs that give its master xp the way you described

As to their being afk, so what.? You duo/trio with a couple pals/ guildees, something come up IRL he/she has to deal with, he let's you know about it and goes afk for as long as he needs to while you keep farming some cash/ xp. End of the story. Happens every day without any boxing involved.

Looks like you hold a grudge against those guys. Why would you waste so long watching them in the first place? I know I have better things to do when I play :rolleyes:

if a camp I'd like is already taken, I just ask if I can get a heads-up when campers leave and I just move along, YMMV

[Nuggie]

looks like a bunch of "maybe evidence."

[Widan]

As to their being afk, so what.? You duo/trio with a couple pals/ guildees, something come up IRL he/she has to deal with, he let's you know about it and goes afk for as long as he needs to while you keep farming some cash/ xp. End of the story. Happens every day without any boxing involved.


Unfortunately this kind of thing is inseparable from boxing so it should be outlawed. What is stopping me from *AFK'ing* one of my chars and playing the other. I never play the *AFK* character so I just say it's my friend who had to work or something.

[Tankwipe]

The most likely scenario, I think, outside of there being nothing sketchy going on (possible), is that the person in question just has someone in their household that can pass boxing checks on demand but is otherwise not present.

[cd288]

I respectfully beg to disagree. As a former epic Arch Mage on Live and a magician in my mid 50s on blue, I yet have to see such a pet with fungi like regen powers or get a pet that chain pulls mobs while I play /gems & profit from free xp.
Unless we're talking lvl 4-8 focused fire pets in a Steamfont kobold camp. Even a couple Crushbone cents and Legos would rip my focused pet a new one and had me running for the ZL

39+ pets with their improved regen rate only get about 1.5-2% hp/ tick when sitting, nothing off the charts.
I've read your posts a couple of times and yet have to understand if we're talking about 2 mages and a single pet or 2 mages and 2 pets

Anyway those pets (not sure what kind either) are actual lvl31 to 33mobs. Even if they're focused with a with torch/ stein/ shovel, I really doubt a single one of them could handle a couple mobs that give its master xp the way you described

As to their being afk, so what.? You duo/trio with a couple pals/ guildees, something come up IRL he/she has to deal with, he let's you know about it and goes afk for as long as he needs to while you keep farming some cash/ xp. End of the story. Happens every day without any boxing involved.

Looks like you hold a grudge against those guys. Why would you waste so long watching them in the first place? I know I have better things to do when I play :rolleyes:

if a camp I'd like is already taken, I just ask if I can get a heads-up when campers leave and I just move along, YMMV

You must not have played a mage recently then because with all due respect your memory is very wrong about a level 39 pet being able to take a level 30 mob without any help. I assume the Mage here was using a focus item to boost the pet, so that pet could definitely handle a level 30 mob, and then be regened up enough to handle the next level 30 mob 3 minutes and 20 seconds later (assuming the two 6:40 mobs were split equally). It's absolutely possible and I've done it on my mage on Blue. Idk if you'd be able to do that with Kunark or Velious mobs, but two level 30 classic old world mobs with their low HP pools? Very easy to do

[Vaarsuvius]

Unfortunately this kind of thing is inseparable from boxing so it should be outlawed. What is stopping me from *AFK'ing* one of my chars and playing the other. I never play the *AFK* character so I just say it's my friend who had to work or something.
I fail to understand why you guys jump at once to the conclusion that someone's boxing. May be they just did not want to deal with / ignore someone breaking their balls at their camp? :D

I would assume we're talking 2 separate players and 2 different chars. Very easy for admins to check if that's the case or not

You'd need to ask and get an IP exception or run EQ on 2 separate computers and running one with a vpn to get a different IP to do so

I'm not defending anyone, but where are the evidences that those guys are not just minding their business and playing the way they want?

[cd288]

I should clarify, by done it on my Mage on Blue I do not mean while AFK lolol, just that level 39 with the regen can easily handle a mob that's level 30. If you tried to do it with mobs in the late 30s that might be a different story.

[Sup Mayne]

Except when they are. Here are Imortaal and Mylk from Castle doing exactly that

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s43wHVqfwsw

Thank you for bringing this to light. We, in the Mayne Council, take these types of accusations very seriously. I want you to know that we spent many hours reviewing the evidence against these two. And we have come to the conclusion that you are a complete and total moron. Thank you for your time.

[cd288]

I fail to understand why you guys jump at once to the conclusion that someone's boxing. May be they just did not want to deal with / ignore someone breaking their balls at their camp? :D

I would assume we're talking 2 separate players and 2 different chars. Very easy for admins to check if that's the case or not

You'd need to ask and get an IP exception or run EQ on 2 separate computers and running one with a vpn to get a different IP to do so

I'm not defending anyone, but where are the evidences that those guys are not just minding their business and playing the way they want?

I'm not necessarily saying they are definitely boxing. It could be two people and the Mage is just letting the other guy leach EXP. However, I would echo the dude with the video as well as other commenters who have mentioned these guys on the forums in the past that they have absolutely been AFK EXPing with a pet which is against the rules on this server.

Unfortunately I don't have Frapps (I guess I should get it?) otherwise I would be able to provide videos of the shady situations I've seen these two in as well.

[Snortles Chortles]

Good use of unemployment

[Widan]

I would assume we're talking 2 separate players and 2 different chars. Very easy for admins to check if that's the case or not

You'd need to ask and get an IP exception or run EQ on 2 separate computers and running one with a vpn to get a different IP to do so

I'm not defending anyone, but where are the evidences that those guys are not just minding their business and playing the way they want?

It's impossible for GM's to determine if someone is boxing or if one player has gone AFK for a long period of time. In neither case will they be able to pass a two box test so should they both be banned? My opinion is yes they should, if you have to AFK for so long then log out instead of leeching exp.

[cd288]

It's impossible for GM's to determine if someone is boxing or if one player has gone AFK for a long period of time. In neither case will they be able to pass a two box test so should they both be banned? My opinion is yes they should, if you have to AFK for so long then log out instead of leeching exp.

And I believe that's what the rules are. If a staff member showed up I think they give you a certain amount of time for the AFK person to return to do the box test. If they don't return within that time frame it's presumed to be boxing and the hammer comes down.

[Vaarsuvius]

You must not have played a mage recently then because with all due respect your memory is very wrong about a level 39 pet being able to take a level 30 mob without any help. I assume the Mage here was using a focus item to boost the pet, so that pet could definitely handle a level 30 mob, and then be regened up enough to handle the next level 30 mob 3 minutes and 20 seconds later (assuming the two 6:40 mobs were split equally). It's absolutely possible and I've done it on my mage on Blue. Idk if you'd be able to do that with Kunark or Velious mobs, but two level 30 classic old world mobs with their low HP pools? Very easy to do

I don't doubt a mag pet can handle a blue one that is not too close to it' s level. I was expressing some serious doubts about a lvl 39 mag pet dealing with 2 blue con NK guards at the same time with it's master being 100% afk and doing squat to help (no heal, no nuke to burn 1 mob faster, no nothing)

Please, don't let other players on blue know that mages and their pets are OP :D

[cd288]

I don't doubt a mag pet can handle a blue one that is not too close to it' s level. I was expressing some serious doubts about a lvl 39 mag pet dealing with 2 blue con NK guards at the same time with it's master being 100% afk and doing squat to help (no heal, no nuke to burn 1 mob faster, no nothing)

Please, don't let other players on blue know that mages and their pets are OP :D

Ah gotcha. From the video the dude posted it looks like the pet was only fighting one at a time (which was why I presumed they split the camp for that purpose, to give the pet time to regen between spawns)

[Sup Mayne]

And I believe that's what the rules are. If a staff member showed up I think they give you a certain amount of time for the AFK person to return to do the box test. If they don't return within that time frame it's presumed to be boxing and the hammer comes down.

So, you think people should be banned for going AFK in a group? Odd take.

[Vaarsuvius]

Well I guess we don't see exp leeching the same way.

No offense meant, but if I decide to share with a friend of mine half the xp my pet and I earn and he/she goes afk and I'm OK with it, this is nobody's business but ours.

If I decide to PL someone and only move once every 6 minute 30 to cast my 33pt DS on them and do nothing the rest of the time will someone accuse me of cheating?

The fact that I may or may not have a pet is irrevelant as long as one of us is actively playing while the other is having a shower, a dump, a nap, answering a long phone call or whatever and both players agree with that, nobody's cheating or denying anyone pixels.

OP may be mad because that guard who's supposed to be phat exp at his level was camped, but that's different from stating from a 30 sec video showing a fire pet fighting a guard that they're cheating.

PS I was in BW looking for Gylton a few days ago with a max level focused 53 air pet (so a lvl 46 mob), and I can confirm that the blessed days of mages' pet owning blue con mobs are already. over in Kunark:
Fluffy was doing great VS a Sarnak but it died very fast when another one joined the party and I had to run to SF zone line..
Will try again with a 57 earth pet :p

[Sabin76]

No offense meant, but if I decide to share with a friend of mine half the xp my pet and I earn and he/she goes afk and I'm OK with it, this is nobody's business but ours.

If I decide to PL someone and only move once every 6 minute 30 to cast my 33pt DS on them and do nothing the rest of the time will someone accuse me of cheating?

The fact that I may or may not have a pet is irrevelant as long as one of us is actively playing while the other is having a shower, a dump, a nap, answering a long phone call or whatever and both players agree with that, nobody's cheating or denying anyone pixels.

The problem is not that you are letting your friend freeride off of you, it's that it is completely indistinguishable from boxing with a VPN. One of these things is a bannable offense. If the powers that be plan on enforcing a boxing policy, they can't allow things that look like something a boxer would do (have one character be AFK for prolonged periods of time while the other is actually fighting).

AFAIK, they've been pretty clear about actually needing to be at your computer if you plan on getting anything out of this game (XP, Items, Faction, etc.).

[cd288]

So, you think people should be banned for going AFK in a group? Odd take.

No. I think people should be suspended pending further investigation if they are in a duo and one of them has been AFK for over an hour while the other person also AFKs and their pet kills things and then a staff member shows up and asks them to complete a boxing test and they don't come back to the computer.

By the way, if you think it's an odd take then I guess you should take it up with the staff because that's how the process goes. If a staff member had run a boxing check on these two characters and one of them was AFK, the staff would give them a certain period of time to get back to the computer (usually a reasonable period of time) and complete the boxing test. If they don't come back the account is suspended and/or banned under a presumption of boxing. So I guess you're saying you don't agree with the staff?

But I'm not surprised that you would disagree with them on this considering how often people have seen the Mage and Bard AFK camping and looking like they are boxing.

[nycfla]

OP may be mad because that guard who's supposed to be phat exp at his level was camped, but that's different from stating from a 30 sec video showing a fire pet fighting a guard that they're cheating.

I'll clarify something here. At no time was I looking to camp more than one of the 3 guard spawns. I was looking for a single 6:40 spawn timer mob to kill while I did work at the same time. I also did not care if it was the guard that drops the shield and sword...I just wanted to EXP. I don't think I could have even handled all 3 at that level with my lower mana pool and weaker pet (I was using level 34 pet).

And I had one of the three guard spawns, so no I wasn't "mad" about anything...I had a mob to camp. The reason I began recording was that after a little while of me being there they both stopped moving and the pet was killing the other two guards that they were camping (it was not killing my guard so this was not about a camp dispute). So no, I'm not salty or mad, I just was casually killing my single spawn and saw two people AFK EXPing and potentially boxing and filmed multiple videos of it.

Although I did think it was funny that when I first showed up they tried to say they could camp all three, and then when they realized I knew the rules they claimed "oh well we have another Mage on the list ahead of you", and then when I essentially said "okay I'll just kill one of the guard spawns until the Mage gets here and then he can have the spawn and I'll go on the list" suddenly they actually didn't have a Mage on the list and I could have one of the spawns...clearly they wanted to monopolize spawns and when I made clear that I was happy to wait at the camp for the make believe Mage on the list to come they then allowed me to have a spawn lol

[turbosilk]

I fail to understand why you guys jump at once to the conclusion that someone's boxing. May be they just did not want to deal with / ignore someone breaking their balls at their camp? :D

I would assume we're talking 2 separate players and 2 different chars. Very easy for admins to check if that's the case or not

You'd need to ask and get an IP exception or run EQ on 2 separate computers and running one with a vpn to get a different IP to do so

I'm not defending anyone, but where are the evidences that those guys are not just minding their business and playing the way they want?

Because a majority of people on P99 can't wrap their heads around people that actually play with RL friends and family. Causes solo life brains to go into overload.

[Jibartik]

hmm

If someone is PLing an afk person

and that afk person cannot operate the boxing test by the time a GM arrives from a petition

then those accounts will probably be banned/suspended, and that makes sense.

this (boxers) is why we cant have nice things (trust that you're friend is really afk)

[kaev]

Because a majority of people on P99 can't wrap their heads around people that actually play with RL friends and family. Causes solo life brains to go into overload.

I am unable to add anything of value to this distillation of truth, so +1