The Joe Biden Drops Out thread

[Kennie]

Hi, I'm a greasy mouth breathing nerd posting on a video game forum. I'm an expert in economics and policy. I'm a genius and everyone else on the video game forum is inferior to me.

[Gwaihir]

He doesn't have a series of loans from a foreign entity he needs to repay with quid pro quo or a slew of ineptly run businesses he and a son-in-law need to bail out with tax dollars. So, I think his agenda is to govern. Well, to appoint people to govern.

Nah. It's probably more akin to this:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LGslwJwhXvpVnDgw0uC-n794l6EGzpuH

Introducing the 2020 remote classroom curriculum.

Monday is "Restorative Justice, Empathy, and Loving Engagement" Day

Tuesday is "Diversity and Globalism" Day

Wednesday is "Trans-affirming, and queer-affirming collective value" Day

Thursday is "Intergenerational Black Families, and Black Villages" Day

Friday is "Centering Black Women and Femmes" day

Thought your kids were going to be learning core concepts like math, reading comprehension, and science? Nope. Not enough time in the day for that stuff...plus, math is a racist construct of white supremacy and stuff so move over Bethoven. This is the outline for Kidnergarten through 2nd Grade. It get's more nuanced from there on out, with middle school indoctrination including what, or who, you should put in your butt, for a good time.

[Mead]

Hi, I'm a poor greasy mouth breathing nerd posting on a video game forum. I'm an expert in economics and policy. I'm a genius and everyone else on the video game forum is inferior to me.

ftfy

[Baler]

This message is hidden because Mead is on your ignore list.

Koolaid runs in his veins.

[Mead]

This message is hidden because Mead is on your ignore list.

Koolaid runs in his veins.

Poor struck a nerve

[Jimjam]

He doesn't have a series of loans from a foreign entity he needs to repay with quid pro quo or a slew of ineptly run businesses he and a son-in-law need to bail out with tax dollars. So, I think his agenda is to govern. Well, to appoint people to govern.

In Trumps defence, and I hate to do this, sometimes it is best to create a business designed to fail as it lets you launder / embezzle while packaging away toxic assets harmlessly.

[Woke Locc]

What is Biden's Agenda?

He has to listen to the delegates to find out. Aug 17-20.

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/rKfeUT7.gif

What the fuck is going on with our world.

[Woke Locc]

What the fuck is going on with our world.

Every 4 years the TV makes men go mad

[hobart]

Nah. It's probably more akin to this:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LGslwJwhXvpVnDgw0uC-n794l6EGzpuH

Introducing the 2020 remote classroom curriculum.

Monday is "Restorative Justice, Empathy, and Loving Engagement" Day

Tuesday is "Diversity and Globalism" Day

Wednesday is "Trans-affirming, and queer-affirming collective value" Day

Thursday is "Intergenerational Black Families, and Black Villages" Day

Friday is "Centering Black Women and Femmes" day

Thought your kids were going to be learning core concepts like math, reading comprehension, and science? Nope. Not enough time in the day for that stuff...plus, math is a racist construct of white supremacy and stuff so move over Bethoven. This is the outline for Kidnergarten through 2nd Grade. It get's more nuanced from there on out, with middle school indoctrination including what, or who, you should put in your butt, for a good time.

Trumptardism and the illiberal twitter left. Opposite ends of the same horseshoe.

The amount of people who actually want something like that is close enough to zero to be statistically zero.

https://i.imgur.com/rKfeUT7.gif

What the fuck is going on with our world.

That's the most pressing issue of this election cycle. It has nothing to do with a president that doesn't follow the law and undermines public confidence in our institutions and runs roughshod over the constitution and rule of law. The big story is that Joe Biden continues to be socially awkward after 50 years in politics. Oh, and what about Hillary's emails?

[Trexller]

Yeah what about Hilary's emails? Biden was VP during that fiasco. So he definitely knew nothing about it. Yep. No dirty love letters between her and susan rice. Also something about Hunter's Burisma schilling for cocaine.

You know it, I know it, the American people know it!

And Hilary still won't give a straight answer about Benghazi

[Jimjam]

It’s 2020. Who cares about emails now.

Lets get with the times. The real question is what about her only fans? Does Bidet subscribe?

[Trexller]

From Hilary Clinton's Onlyfans page.

Subscriptions now for the low cost of a pallet of cash delivered to Iran air freight in the dead of night.

https://i.imgur.com/hDSITAi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3aC3leK.jpg

[Snortles Chortles]

Hi, I'm a greasy mouth breathing nerd posting on a video game forum. I'm an expert in economics and policy. I'm a genius and everyone else on the video game forum is inferior to me.

[White_knight]

Lol @ those pix.

[Gwaihir]

Trumptardism and the illiberal twitter left. Opposite ends of the same horseshoe.

The amount of people who actually want something like that is close enough to zero to be statistically zero.


Except, this actually is the curriculum for the 2020 school year in NY and NJ.

[hobart]

Except, this actually is the curriculum for the 2020 school year in NY and NJ.

So they're not teaching math? At all?

[Gwaihir]

So they're not teaching math? At all?

When they get around to it, I suppose. There's more pressing matters, such as teaching 5 6 and 7 year olds about transgenders, and relinquishing their white privilege.

[hobart]

Except, this actually is the curriculum for the 2020 school year in NY and NJ.

So they're not teaching math? At all?

When they get around to it, I suppose. There's more pressing matters, such as teaching 5 6 and 7 year olds about transgenders, and relinquishing their white privilege.

So a day here and there of stupid SJW issues and the entire thing is ruined? Baby out with the bathwater?

I'll put SJW issues briefly covered in NJ and NY public schools as numbers 19,287 and 19,288 on my "Things that are Ruining America" list. It's right below Roomba sending your personal data to the cloud.

Also, still not knowing what this has to do with Joe Biden. I'm sure it's a liberal conspiracy that Glenn Beck can fully explain.

[Baler]

Trex please never post hildog again, that cunt is nast AF

[Trexller]

So Biden hasn't laid out any real agenda aside from obama talking points, and dragging out the VP pick is starting to look indecisive, unconfident and just silly.

[BlackBellamy]

I'm sure it's a liberal conspiracy that Glenn Beck can fully explain.

Sigh...ok.

Teaching children about Restorative Justice through Trans-affirming, and queer-affirming Globalism makes them morally weak. Instead of a cohesive body bound by pride in their nation and culture, the cohort is self-centered and engages in nihilism.

This is exactly what our enemies want; our youth destroyed and grown to participate in further chaos and disorder. Our enemies being personified by Russia and China, but it helps to just think of them as the International Communist Conspiracy. And the ICC has been busy, placing Marxists into our educational institutions for decades and decades.

Does China love Trump? No they hate him! He shits on them around the clock! Do they love Biden? More importantly does he love them? He loves their money! His entire family does.

Does Russia love Trump? No they hate him! He's got the Poles all riled up with their fancy new weapons and he's screwing with their gas! Do they love Biden? More importantly, who was Vice President when a former President told Putin on a hot mike that after the election he was free to ignore the US voters and they could sucky-sucky together?

I trust I have painted a vivid path from the cultural decay that the ICC is wreaking upon our country in their relentless drive to become the sole political system on Earth, through their infiltration of our institutions, and finally to an easily-confused angry old man in Joe Biden's skin.

And now a commercial break, I'd like to welcome Angry Wax to our family!

https://imgur.com/2AFO983.png

[Baler]

Biden and Children should never be used in the same sentence

i'm sorry, i'm not sorry.

[Bigsham]

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[Gwaihir]

So a day here and there of stupid SJW issues and the entire thing is ruined? Baby out with the bathwater?

I'll put SJW issues briefly covered in NJ and NY public schools as numbers 19,287 and 19,288 on my "Things that are Ruining America" list. It's right below Roomba sending your personal data to the cloud.

Also, still not knowing what this has to do with Joe Biden. I'm sure it's a liberal conspiracy that Glenn Beck can fully explain.

One or two days? Thats a little disingenuous considering they're literally building the entire curriculum around it. Along with an in depth look into the "familial" aspects of living amongst a tribe of aborigibal blacks who rape children to rid themselves of AIDS and indiscriminately procreate, often by force, with their nieces, cousins, whatever, because the concept of paternity and by extension paternal responsibility, is foreign. We should all strive to be so enlightened.

Moreover, why is any of this garbage important for 5 6 and 7 year olds to learn, during their most formative and rapidly learning years?

[zodium]

This is exactly what our enemies want; our youth destroyed and grown to participate in further chaos and disorder. Our enemies being personified by Russia and China, but it helps to just think of them as the International Communist Conspiracy. And the ICC has been busy, placing Marxists into our educational institutions for decades and decades.

its true the ICC is a powerful global organization, but as a senior ICC commissar, i'd just like to correct some things about the history of the ICC here. first off, some communists got together in the late 90s and decided that since everyone else was living in economic fairytale land, we would use marxism to foresee economic crises of capitalism, invest ourselves appropriately, and thus gain control of the means of production. secondly, its not personified by russia or china (which are not persons, btw), but is in fact called "disaster marxism".

heres how it works: with every crisis of capitalism, bands of merry marxists stand ready to leverage capitalism's intrinsic centripetal wealth concentration forces against the system itself. twenty years on we have now pushed capitalism so far past its operating parameters that even titans of industry, from amazon to unilever, were made to quietly bend the knee; were forced to adopt internal command economies, or face ruination. any who resisted, like sears, were destroyed by a combination of self-destructive capitalist instinct and their superior command economy competitors. capitalism now remains as an increasingly de jure system, kept on life support by means of fantastically creative accounting and system level jury-rigging to nominally maintain value, in a capitalist sense, for an ever shrinking group of firms defined primarily by their political connections.

today, every day, more and more people simply wake up, look at material conditions, and independently figure out that marxism? socialism? communism? its good. because its delivering the goods, its making the money, its bringing home the bacon. jeff bezos thinks he's lex luthor taking over the world but he's just building communism for us one fully automated luxury People's Fulfillment Center at a time.

[Patriam1066]

Occupy a desk

[Kennie]

Hi, I'm a greasy mouth breathing nerd posting on a video game forum. I'm an expert in economics and policy. I'm a genius and everyone else on the video game forum is inferior to me.

https://i.imgur.com/PAVdoAT.png

[BlackBellamy]

I am a humble and insignificant insect. I know and assume nothing. I bow in respect to the intellectual and philosophical powerhouses ensconced here and any heights I reach are because I've climbed on the shoulders of giants.

[BlackBellamy]

but as a senior ICC commissar, i'd just like to correct some things about the history of the ICC here.

This new learning amazes me! So Joe Biden isn't just a tool, he's an actual New Marxist. The infiltration has now become conversion! This is sad because now we also have to nuke ourselves, our own cities, our own post offices! Still it's for the greater good. We can't allow the Marxist Ballots to enter the system.

We have to kill ourselves to save ourselves. I mean this is a slight twist on the Catholic dogma, but I'm adaptable.

[Swish]

Trump or Biden, what a choice.

[zodium]

This new learning amazes me! So Joe Biden isn't just a tool, he's an actual New Marxist. The infiltration has now become conversion! This is sad because now we also have to nuke ourselves, our own cities, our own post offices! Still it's for the greater good. We can't allow the Marxist Ballots to enter the system.

We have to kill ourselves to save ourselves. I mean this is a slight twist on the Catholic dogma, but I'm adaptable.

both major US parties in fact represent the interests of the icc. the post-clinton democrats are our trotskyist wing, while post-bush republicans are our twm wing. that is, the democrats work to heighten the internal contradictions of capitalism towards the Final Crisis, while the republicans actively destroy imperial institutions to prepare the way for our alternative institutions.

https://i.imgur.com/QgHzNf2.jpg

edit: obviously joe biden is not an ICC operative, hes just an old man with dementia. come the fuck on lol

[Woke Locc]

its true the ICC is a powerful global organization, but as a senior ICC commissar, i'd just like to correct some things about the history of the ICC here. first off, some communists got together in the late 90s and decided that since everyone else was living in economic fairytale land, we would use marxism to foresee economic crises of capitalism, invest ourselves appropriately, and thus gain control of the means of production. secondly, its not personified by russia or china (which are not persons, btw), but is in fact called "disaster marxism".

heres how it works: with every crisis of capitalism, bands of merry marxists stand ready to leverage capitalism's intrinsic centripetal wealth concentration forces against the system itself. twenty years on we have now pushed capitalism so far past its operating parameters that even titans of industry, from amazon to unilever, were made to quietly bend the knee; were forced to adopt internal command economies, or face ruination. any who resisted, like sears, were destroyed by a combination of self-destructive capitalist instinct and their superior command economy competitors. capitalism now remains as an increasingly de jure system, kept on life support by means of fantastically creative accounting and system level jury-rigging to nominally maintain value, in a capitalist sense, for an ever shrinking group of firms defined primarily by their political connections.

today, every day, more and more people simply wake up, look at material conditions, and independently figure out that marxism? socialism? communism? its good. because its delivering the goods, its making the money, its bringing home the bacon. jeff bezos thinks he's lex luthor taking over the world but he's just building communism for us one fully automated luxury People's Fulfillment Center at a time.

What's an internal command economy?

[Topgunben]

Trump or Biden, what a choice.

It does seem a little strange that these 2 are the best we can do.

I get the Trump selection, a lot of people were just fed up with the status quo and wanted an outsider to shake things up.

Joe in the other hand? I have no idea why dems chose this doofus.

[DMN]

It does seem a little strange that these 2 are the best we can do.

I get the Trump selection, a lot of people were just fed up with the status quo and wanted an outsider to shake things up.

Joe in the other hand? I have no idea why dems chose this doofus.

The dem collation is largely comprised of self-centered racists/bigots/morons that hate each other only marginally less than they hate republicans. These are the sorts of results you can expect with such a fractured party.

[Convict]

The dem collation is largely comprised of self-centered racists/bigots/morons that hate each other only marginally less than they hate republicans. These are the sorts of results you can expect with such a fractured party.

stole the words out of my mouth damn

[BlackBellamy]

Kamala isn't even going to have take anything she said back or apologize because Biden doesn't remember that debate at all.

https://imgur.com/9iXZhid.jpg

I mean for a Democrat outlet like NBC to call her vicious...

So she is going to be working with a guy who worked with segregationists. KKKamala Harris eh?

[Rader]

It does seem a little strange that these 2 are the best we can do.

I get the Trump selection, a lot of people were just fed up with the status quo and wanted an outsider to shake things up.

Joe in the other hand? I have no idea why dems chose this doofus.

Because libs are doofi (doofus plural).

Seriously. I get the Trump hate, but the Biden love? What the f-ck is that? No one is that bad to merit supporting that idiot.

[DMN]

Because libs are doofi (doofus plural).

Seriously. I get the Trump hate, but the Biden love? What the f-ck is that? No one is that bad to merit supporting that idiot.

Despite how they ended up with a doddering pedophile, it might be a masterstroke. Dem voters are dumb enough to believe he will be a blank slate and get programming from *whatever your race/sex/sexuality/issue etc."

[Tethler]

Because libs are doofi (doofus plural).

Seriously. I get the Trump hate, but the Biden love? What the f-ck is that? No one is that bad to merit supporting that idiot.

I don't know any dems that "love Biden". It's the old boomer democrats that wanted him. Everyone I know under 60 wanted someone else. DNC needs a massive douching.

[Vdaria]

i guess the main reason i don't like trump is that he's a pedophile. maybe i could forget the rest, but I don't like pedophiles, to be honest. i guess that's why I'm not voting for him.

[BarnabusCollins]

Trump is no pedophile but Bill Clinton is (and is well above the law). Biden lost 2020 by picking Harris as riunning mate, everybody knows she's a phony/fake who sent many away to prison for decades in her home Commiefornia for marijuana.

[BarnabusCollins]

Biden/Harris are more republican that Trump, who is really just a neutral entrepreneur. That aside, and not like it matters what party the leading scum are from, if the Fakocrats really cared about the African American community as the press claims, theyd already have Marijuana legalized for any amount, for any reason, at the Federal level. The only law against it should be failure to pay taxes on it. The fakocrats dont give a shit about the African American, female, or any other community. It's all about money. The rest is bullshit.

[Bigsham]

Republican is the only party, being democrat is just a trick to get poor people to vote for them

[Woke Locc]

Biden/Harris are more republican that Trump, who is really just a neutral entrepreneur. That aside, and not like it matters what party the leading scum are from, if the Fakocrats really cared about the African American community as the press claims, theyd already have Marijuana legalized for any amount, for any reason, at the Federal level. The only law against it should be failure to pay taxes on it. The fakocrats dont give a shit about the African American, female, or any other community. It's all about money. The rest is bullshit.

I'm not sure the executive can do it by penstroke, but she ran on legalizing weed and expunging weed convictions in the primary.

[Patriam1066]

I don't know any dems that "love Biden". It's the old boomer democrats that wanted him. Everyone I know under 60 wanted someone else. DNC needs a massive douching.

Black people made Biden the nominee

hope this helps

[Kich867]

Commiefornia

You can alway spot the elderly by their usage of really bad puns.

[kjs86z]

Commiefornia

https://i.imgur.com/ae9uDji.jpg

[Trexller]

commiefornia is an accurate description, and sounds like the way Gov. Schwarzenegger pronounces it

[Kich867]

commiefornia is an accurate description, and sounds like the way Gov. Schwarzenegger pronounces it

Anything sounds like the way Arnold says it if you say it in his voice.

[Trexller]

Im of a mindset that governing a state, requires one to accurately pronounce the name in american english

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6IQRbEtXlQ

[Trexller]

Joe Biden's Policy on China

https://i.imgur.com/ySbTdbY.jpg

Trump's Policy on China

https://i.imgur.com/9B532Wm.png

[Rader]

Joe Biden's Policy on China

https://i.imgur.com/ySbTdbY.jpg

Trump's Policy on China

https://i.imgur.com/9B532Wm.png

LOL

Exactly. Those who pass the China Flu on to the world should be forced to eat feces. Not buying the UN line that China is an innocent bystander, who the F believes that other than useful idiots who just hate Trump no matter what and will sabotage life if it means he is not reelected

[cd288]

No offense Bellamy, you always seemed like a pretty intelligent guy so I’m pretty shocked that you could be dumb enough to actually think four more years of Trump would be a good thing for this country (and this is speaking as someone who largely votes Republican)

[Patriam1066]

LOL

Exactly. Those who pass the China Flu on to the world should be forced to eat feces. Not buying the UN line that China is an innocent bystander, who the F believes that other than useful idiots who just hate Trump no matter what and will sabotage life if it means he is not reelected

You won’t even wear a mask

[Topgunben]

No offense Bellamy, you always seemed like a pretty intelligent guy so I’m pretty shocked that you could be dumb enough to actually think four more years of Trump would be a good thing for this country (and this is speaking as someone who largely votes Republican)

What other option is there?

[Bardp1999]

What other option is there?

Exactly - democrats refuse to run a viable candidate for some reason - Hillary and Uncle Joe - /BARF

[Jimjam]

Exactly - democrats refuse to run a viable candidate for some reason - Hillary and Uncle Joe - /BARF

Sorry mate, but you have to have faith in the institutions. Biden and Trump are the best options America has to offer. Democracy is a meritocracy so whichever you choose will do fine.

[BarnabusCollins]

The fact is Trump is doing exactly what the global puppet masters want him to be doing and will be going nowhere. That's why the Dems pick losing candidates and why the Senate will stay republican. Trump signed off on 54 billion for three warboats, smiling ear to ear, as he cut foodstamps to millions. If Clinton had won, she's be doing the exact same thing as Trump. Trump has not withdrawn from any nation that US was in war with during the Obama era. And will not. He's not allowed to. He's going by the script of his handlers.

[Woke Locc]

You won’t even wear a mask

Abraham Accords is a dope name.

How much we pay for peace?

[Jimjam]

The fact is Trump is doing exactly what the global puppet masters want him to be doing and will be going nowhere. That's why the Dems pick losing candidates and why the Senate will stay republican. Trump signed off on 54 billion for three warboats, smiling ear to ear, as he cut foodstamps to millions. If Clinton had won, she's be doing the exact same thing as Trump. Trump has not withdrawn from any nation that US was in war with during the Obama era. And will not. He's not allowed to. He's going by the script of his handlers.

If Obama couldn’t I’m not sure anyone can.

Perhaps it is best for Burning Sands fans that he didn’t get chosen so his legacy is only tainted with what he could have been rather than what he would have been.

[BlackBellamy]

No offense Bellamy, you always seemed like a pretty intelligent guy so I’m pretty shocked that you could be dumb enough to actually think four more years of Trump would be a good thing for this country (and this is speaking as someone who largely votes Republican)

Thank you and no offense taken from that second part.

I've been interested in Trump's management style and digging around I found a curious thing. You see, the President's day is extremely structured. Every minute, every meeting, every call, everything planned and directed and he's just hustled from one thing to the other. It's always been like that. When Trump came in, he added blocks of unstructured time to the calendar. Chief of staff John Kelly instituted "executive time" after Trump complained that he didn't have enough time to think. Think about that. Trump has been a top executive and manager all his life and he came in and the first thing he realized is the President didn't have time to think. He couldn't just kick back for three hours and think about what was going on, to let the mind wander, to associate.

Executive time is for people who are in charge of the system, the other way the system is in charge of you. The last President who had executive time was Reagan and now he has an airport and an aircraft carrier named after him. Maybe if the other Presidents had time to think they wouldn't be digging so many fresh graves in Arlington every past administration.

How is this going to look to the rest of the world? Trump is showing real leadership on containing China and Russia, he motivated NATO, he's got good relations with Turkey again, Iran is shut down, no US soldiers are dying in numbers anywhere, Afghanistan is quiet, maybe for good this time. We're super solid with the UK. All of Trump's foes have been disgraced; Macron let pension negotiations devolve into two years of riots, Canadian blackface guy is toast and that German broad lost all credibility for Germany failing to lead the EU and just lost tons of US troops and money to Poland. I would like to point out absolutely zero peeps from North Korea since Trump went down there and choked that fat bastard in private (Trump got 55 soldiers remains back to be buried here with their families after 65 years of waiting simply because no previous administration would even hold talks with the Norks).

Internally, illegal immigration down. Children separation down. Until the Chinese Virus hit the economy was super duper solid. Crime down in every category until the Democrats lost their minds and stopped telling the police to arrest people. If you think the Democrats would have done better with Covid just a reminder that they were united in condemning his travel ban, which as everyone understands is the single most effective method of containing transmission.

What's not to like? Forget the hypocrisy and the lies and nepotism. I'm not going to accept any arguments like that considering the last three Presidents before him were corrupt lying fucks as bad or worse than him.

I understand a lot of people are personally offended by Trump. It's not on me they can't separate the job from the man. It's not on me that vast swathes of idiots ascribe some sort of Messiah status to the position, that the man has to be some sort of guiding light for a population obviously reared without any proper father figures so they need some Golden Father to make things right in their lives. The man is an executive, a manager, and a war leader. I'm very happy with the last one obviously and I don't see him doing worse on the first two than anyone I can remember. So far not a single embassy worker has been gunned down by terrorists while we frantically made lots and lots of phone calls. No one has waved around a glass vial full of sugar as an excuse to murder a quarter million Iraqis. Not a single airliner has been shot down by our trigger-happy missile frigate captains. Not a single Crimea has been invaded by Russia (thanks weak-ass bitch Obama). Speaking of whom, not a single government official has been caught on a hot mike telling Putin that they will be free to ignore US voter's wishes after the election because fuck them let's do some business.

I voted for Trump in 2016 because I hated Hilary more than I didn't want a fat affable liar television personality in charge. I'm voting for Trump this year because I approve of the job he did. And this in spite that the mindless partisan opposition that was way more fervent than anything Obama ever faced.

[zodium]

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[BlackBellamy]

https://imgur.com/m15YI0v.jpg

after the three spoke “and agreed to the full normalization of relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.” The statement said that the “diplomatic breakthrough” was at “the request of President Trump,”

This is the reason I'm voting for Trump. Not because of the deal, but because how it was done. The initial plan was put out by his son-in-law. That plan heavily favored Israel and didn't do squat to stop their expansion. Reaction was lukewarm at best. If Jared altered his plan, he would be seen as wishy-washy. Trump steps in with 'his' plan, gets the deal made which goes way beyond the initial proposal.

He used his son-in-law to sound out the plan and maintain an illusion that it wasn't his plan in the first place. Then he sacrificed Jared publicly so he can ride in, unencumbered by previous plans and make a new deal. Jared learns humility. Trump learns how loyal Jared is. Israel finally cracks the Arab wall and gets full recognition from one member at least. The Arabs are happy the Jews won't take the West Bank (officially). Trump gets a 'middle east peace' headline right before the election. And to top it all off, the deal actually does promote peace.

Obama would have just sent an envoy after envoy after envoy each with a different proposal hoping there's a bite, and maybe a plane full of cash if that didn't work. Oh wait, that's exactly what he did and he got a big fat zero because of it.

The art of the deal.

[Patriam1066]

The Emiratis have been headed that direction for a long time because they are most concerned with of course Iran, but also the expanding Turkish-Qatari political Sunni Islam alliance

Vote for whomever you want buddy, but Erdogan being in Libya and drilling off of Egyptian and Cypriot waters made this happen

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/2sPRoJ5.png

Shouldn’t have a dog with no savings, shouldn’t be obese and diabetic

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/ChqI6gb.png

[Patriam1066]

Should have at least 4-5 years of savings by age 30, should be employed by 9 and independent by 18

[zodium]

Should have at least 4-5 years of savings by age 30, should be employed by 9 and independent by 18

its rare for liberals to just come out and tell the naked truth about what they want for society, but there it is.

[BlackBellamy]

The Emiratis have been headed that direction for a long time because they are most concerned with of course Iran, but also the expanding Turkish-Qatari political Sunni Islam alliance

Vote for whomever you want buddy, but Erdogan being in Libya and drilling off of Egyptian and Cypriot waters made this happen

Yes! The UAE is the logical choice and I'm glad they acquiesced. I guess that teaches the Arabs they should work a bit harder to keep that internal unity going.

Obama: Hi, can you please stop interfering in Syria and causing problems for us?
Erdrogan: Your face, it is smooth like a woman!

https://imgur.com/nlpAdOW.jpg

Trump: I'm going to need you to go to Libya.
Erdrogan: Of course! You're hurting my hand!

https://imgur.com/w8LqhDl.jpg

Edit: notice how even though Trump is in the inferior power hand-shaking position, he covers the shake with his spare hand to establish total handshake dominance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8sqhdOaSX0). Do you think Trump would let Erdogan touch his face?

[Patriam1066]

Work will set you free

Occupy a desk

[Patriam1066]

“My insulin ran out and I have no more McDonald’s gift cards. I can’t feed my cats and I got furloughed from the pet shop I work at because of covid. I can’t borrow money from my mom because she has a similar IQ and work ethic (me being her son and all). I’m depressed and lonely I need help mannnn”

Not great arguments for communism Sodium, quite the contrary actually. I would love to see you and the rest of the unemployed sent to Gulags, however, so maybe we can meet halfway?

[BlackBellamy]

its rare for liberals to just come out and tell the naked truth about what they want for society, but there it is.

What do you want for society?

Don't hold back.

[Woke Locc]

“My insulin ran out and I have no more McDonald’s gift cards. I can’t feed my cats and I got furloughed from the pet shop I work at because of covid. I can’t borrow money from my mom because she has a similar IQ and work ethic (me being her son and all). I’m depressed and lonely I need help mannnn”

Not great arguments for communism Sodium, quite the contrary actually. I would love to see you and the rest of the unemployed sent to Gulags, however, so maybe we can meet halfway?

Gulag costs more and not just money.

Mad

[Patriam1066]

I’m not the one advocating for communism

Talk to your boy sodium who is very sad for those who can’t afford insulin, which is sold over the counter at Walmart

You currently unemployed Poke?

[zodium]

What do you want for society?

Don't hold back.

i want separation of wealth and state. i want to arm every worker, abolish the cops, abolish every institution that enforce our systems of passive ownership. i want to direct what productive forces were developed so far to provide all workers the resources to reproduce their labor; to replace the current work organization process that begins with "seeking funding" from aristocrats with just "seeking material assistance" from relevant workers. globally.

i like your analysis. its a fun tom clancy take on things, but the reality is far simpler: the middle east is dying from ecological collapse. the arab elites are bending the knee to the colonizers. much like the american working class, the palestinians are being left to die.

[cd288]

Thank you and no offense taken from that second part.

I've been interested in Trump's management style and digging around I found a curious thing. You see, the President's day is extremely structured. Every minute, every meeting, every call, everything planned and directed and he's just hustled from one thing to the other. It's always been like that. When Trump came in, he added blocks of unstructured time to the calendar. Chief of staff John Kelly instituted "executive time" after Trump complained that he didn't have enough time to think. Think about that. Trump has been a top executive and manager all his life and he came in and the first thing he realized is the President didn't have time to think. He couldn't just kick back for three hours and think about what was going on, to let the mind wander, to associate.

Executive time is for people who are in charge of the system, the other way the system is in charge of you. The last President who had executive time was Reagan and now he has an airport and an aircraft carrier named after him. Maybe if the other Presidents had time to think they wouldn't be digging so many fresh graves in Arlington every past administration.

How is this going to look to the rest of the world? Trump is showing real leadership on containing China and Russia, he motivated NATO, he's got good relations with Turkey again, Iran is shut down, no US soldiers are dying in numbers anywhere, Afghanistan is quiet, maybe for good this time. We're super solid with the UK. All of Trump's foes have been disgraced; Macron let pension negotiations devolve into two years of riots, Canadian blackface guy is toast and that German broad lost all credibility for Germany failing to lead the EU and just lost tons of US troops and money to Poland. I would like to point out absolutely zero peeps from North Korea since Trump went down there and choked that fat bastard in private (Trump got 55 soldiers remains back to be buried here with their families after 65 years of waiting simply because no previous administration would even hold talks with the Norks).

Internally, illegal immigration down. Children separation down. Until the Chinese Virus hit the economy was super duper solid. Crime down in every category until the Democrats lost their minds and stopped telling the police to arrest people. If you think the Democrats would have done better with Covid just a reminder that they were united in condemning his travel ban, which as everyone understands is the single most effective method of containing transmission.

What's not to like? Forget the hypocrisy and the lies and nepotism. I'm not going to accept any arguments like that considering the last three Presidents before him were corrupt lying fucks as bad or worse than him.

I understand a lot of people are personally offended by Trump. It's not on me they can't separate the job from the man. It's not on me that vast swathes of idiots ascribe some sort of Messiah status to the position, that the man has to be some sort of guiding light for a population obviously reared without any proper father figures so they need some Golden Father to make things right in their lives. The man is an executive, a manager, and a war leader. I'm very happy with the last one obviously and I don't see him doing worse on the first two than anyone I can remember. So far not a single embassy worker has been gunned down by terrorists while we frantically made lots and lots of phone calls. No one has waved around a glass vial full of sugar as an excuse to murder a quarter million Iraqis. Not a single airliner has been shot down by our trigger-happy missile frigate captains. Not a single Crimea has been invaded by Russia (thanks weak-ass bitch Obama). Speaking of whom, not a single government official has been caught on a hot mike telling Putin that they will be free to ignore US voter's wishes after the election because fuck them let's do some business.

I voted for Trump in 2016 because I hated Hilary more than I didn't want a fat affable liar television personality in charge. I'm voting for Trump this year because I approve of the job he did. And this in spite that the mindless partisan opposition that was way more fervent than anything Obama ever faced.

Trump has very little to do with the stock market. Most Presidents have very little to do with the stock market. The economy is generally cyclical over a range of decades and Trump just happened to be elected when the economy was good. In fact, as someone who works on Wall Street it's funny to watch people here groan when Trump opens his mouth because you never know when it might cause the market to tank for a couple days (e.g., the Christmas crash a couple years ago). The economy was going to go down regardless from COVID, you're right, but Trump has greatly exacerbated that as a result of his complete and total failure to admit that he messed up and start trying to get this under control. He thinks if he just pretends like the virus doesn't exist and tells everyone to just go back to normal during a pandemic that everything will be fine. That's not the way it works. To me, the COVID situation is the most critical point, because politics aside I think the most important trait for a President to have is to be able to be a strong and confident leader during times of major crises (regardless of what party they are in). Trump has proven he is not that (and continues to prove it multiple times a week with the things he says and a complete unwillingness to really seriously listen to science). I mean, he has Jared Kushner of all fucking people leading the COVID taskforce lmao.

The Democrats panned the travel ban because he just limited it to China when he first instituted it despite the fact that it was spreading like wildfire in Europe.

China and Russia are contained? Lol what? And North Korea? What positives did we get out of that? We legitimized them on the world stage and they said they'd do X, Y, and Z and then did none of that and we were like "oh alright then well if you don't want to that's fine."

Okay, other Presidents have been bad in the past. And? What does that have to do with anything? Saying you can't criticize Trump for all the fucked up stuff he's done because someone else was bad in the past is like saying I can't criticize a pizza place for bad pizza because I've had bad pizza someplace else at some point in my life. Sorry, but speaking here as a Republican I can absolutely say with confidence that I do not think anyone has come even close to the level of outright corruption Trump has displayed. Pardoning his friends who were going to jail for obstructing investigations into him, making the DOJ fire prosecutors who are investigating him, removing IGs and replacing them with cronies so that there is significantly reduced oversight over anything, refusing to fund the US Postal Service because to try and prevent mail in voting (which is actually pretty ironic considering a recent poll showed more Republicans (especially older ones, which make up a big portion of his base) are planning on mail in voting than Democrats), the list goes on and on.

I was hopeful when Trump was elected in 2016. And I think he has done some good things here and there, but the vast majority has been bad and he has proven that he is unfit to lead during a severe crisis. Not to mention the fact that due to his tax reforms I know pay 5 figures more in taxes per year than I did under Obama...like lol what? Obama taxed me less than a Republican President? Repealing Trump's tax reforms alone would be enough to get me to vote against him.

[Trexller]

I do not think anyone has come even close to the level of outright corruption Trump has displayed.

Forget Watergate, Nixon was backdoor dealing with the South Vietnamese government prior to his election, at the time LBJ could not prove it because he obtained that evidence illegally.

https://i.imgur.com/sc3ZhjP.gif

worth noting, roger stone's sentence was only commuted, he is still convicted.

[cd288]

Forget Watergate, Nixon was backdoor dealing with the South Vietnamese government prior to his election, at the time LBJ could not prove it because he obtained that evidence illegally.

https://i.imgur.com/sc3ZhjP.gif

worth noting, roger stone's sentence was only commuted, he is still convicted.

And if a Democrat president had done what Trump did with Stone far right Republicans would be ripping him for it the same way people are ripping Trump. Let's not play pretend here.

Even if I had been considering renewing my support for Trump, the latest stuff with the USPS (refusing to fund so mail in voting isn't possible, appointing a Trump donor as postmaster general who has tens of millions in stock in USPS competitors, and now the dismantling of many mail sorting machines across the country to reduce the ability to process mail in ballots) is the last straw to me. I may be a Republican, but what's more important to me is the legitimacy of our Democracy and our justice system. Trump has attacked both for his personal interest to an absolutely unprecedented degree. We are no longer the America we are supposed to be. We are no longer a legitimate free Democracy if Trump can do these things without repercussion.

[Trexller]

And if a Democrat president had done what Trump did with Stone far right Republicans would be ripping him for it the same way people are ripping Trump. Let's not play pretend here.

Obama granted executive clemency more than any president since Truman. Including domestic terrorist Oscar Lopez Rivera.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-commutations

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons

[Woke Locc]

Obama granted executive clemency more than any president since Truman. Including domestic terrorist Oscar Lopez Rivera.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-commutations

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons

I thought Trump did that to rub noses in the executive privilege question

-Poke

[Trexller]

I thought Trump did that to rub noses in the executive privilege question

-Poke

nah home boy is not any more petty than the rest of the political world. it just suits some peoples politics to call him out and then deny their own slights.

You wanna be in politics? you gotta be a dirtbag, right left or center. Nice guys will always finish last.

Obama is right up there with the best of them, dems just got lost in his demeanor, charisma and smile. Think he knew nothing about Blagojevich? lulz.

Hell i voted for the guy. twice. albeit the other choice was voMitt Romney. or mccain and a bimbo

[cd288]

Obama granted executive clemency more than any president since Truman. Including domestic terrorist Oscar Lopez Rivera.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-commutations

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons

Most of Obama's clemencies were due to reformations in sentencing rules and things like that (i.e. they were granted to many people who were serving way harsher sentences than they should for the crimes they committed and, by the way, most had already served more time than they reasonably should have). It's not even analogous to a President pardoning somebody who lied to Congress to obstruct in investigation into that President, especially when the person didn't even serve the bulk (or any) of their sentence before being pardoned.

Again, I am not a Democrat by any means so I don't say that with any bias. You've seemed like an intelligent person in the past, so I don't think you'd be stupid enough to actually think the Obama clemencies are comparable at all to what Trump did with Stone; I'm guessing you're just being willfully blind about it.

[Patriam1066]

i want separation of wealth and state. i want to arm every worker, abolish the cops, abolish every institution that enforce our systems of passive ownership. i want to direct what productive forces were developed so far to provide all workers the resources to reproduce their labor; to replace the current work organization process that begins with "seeking funding" from aristocrats with just "seeking material assistance" from relevant workers. globally.

i like your analysis. its a fun tom clancy take on things, but the reality is far simpler: the middle east is dying from ecological collapse. the arab elites are bending the knee to the colonizers. much like the american working class, the palestinians are being left to die.

Two questions:

1. Did you grow up in a household with a father?
2. Are you employed?

[Trexller]

Lying to congress occurs daily. Stone was sentenced to prison for jaywalking. The whole thing was a joke anyway, it was clinton revenge. They thought they could nail trump the way republicans did. Clinton didn't actually commit a crime until he denied his "activities" with monica while under oath. Dems figured trump was likely to slip up like that. Clinton should have just said, "She blew me, what of it?"

What most people don't get about trumpie is that he's not gonna fall for that, he is old school new york. Mobster style. Treat with your blood enemies, meet them on amicable terms, call them your friend etc.

#PaulCastellano2020

[douglas1999]

Hey what's goin on itt? *sees zodium quote* Oh!

[zodium]

crony capitalism emerged as the development and direct continuation of the fundamental characteristics of free markets in general. but free markets only became crony capitalism at a definite and very high stage of its development, when certain of its fundamental characteristics began to change into their opposites, when the features of the epoch of transition from free markets to a higher social and economic system had taken shape and revealed themselves in all spheres. economically, the main thing in this process is the displacement of free competition by monopoly. free competition is the basic feature of free markets, and of commodity production generally; monopoly is the exact opposite of free competition, but we have seen the latter being transformed into monopoly before our eyes, creating large-scale business and forcing out small business, replacing large-scale by still larger-scale business, and carrying concentration of growth and money to the point where out of it has grown and is growing monopoly: conglomerates, funds and trusts, and merging with them, the capital of a dozen or so banks, which manipulate thousands of billions. at the same time the monopolies, which have grown out of free competition, do not eliminate the latter, but exist above it and alongside it, and thereby give rise to a number of very acute, intense antagonisms, frictions and conflicts. monopoly is the transition from free markets to a higher system.

[Trexller]

crony capitalism emerged as the development and direct continuation of the fundamental characteristics of free markets in general.

so you mean to tell us that at some point a few smart and unscrupulous people maneuvered themselves into a position to make a shitload of money, and they then used that position to make a shitload of money in a supercilious, underhanded manner?

Fake news. That never happens.

[douglas1999]

crony capitalism emerged as the development and direct continuation of the fundamental characteristics of free markets in general. but free markets only became crony capitalism at a definite and very high stage of its development, when certain of its fundamental characteristics began to change into their opposites, when the features of the epoch of transition from free markets to a higher social and economic system had taken shape and revealed themselves in all spheres. economically, the main thing in this process is the displacement of free competition by monopoly. free competition is the basic feature of free markets, and of commodity production generally; monopoly is the exact opposite of free competition, but we have seen the latter being transformed into monopoly before our eyes, creating large-scale business and forcing out small business, replacing large-scale by still larger-scale business, and carrying concentration of growth and money to the point where out of it has grown and is growing monopoly: conglomerates, funds and trusts, and merging with them, the capital of a dozen or so banks, which manipulate thousands of billions. at the same time the monopolies, which have grown out of free competition, do not eliminate the latter, but exist above it and alongside it, and thereby give rise to a number of very acute, intense antagonisms, frictions and conflicts. monopoly is the transition from free markets to a higher system.

Cool but just hit shift sometimes man

[BlackBellamy]

I can't criticize a pizza place for bad pizza because I've had bad pizza someplace else at some point in my life.

Sure you can! But it's the same pizza wherever you go. Biden pizza. Clinton pizza. Obama deep dish, but it's all the same. Trump is the Hawaiian pizza of pizzas. Everyone has an extreme opinion about the ham and pineapple, there is no middle ground. But at least that last pie is fun.

Trump is corrupt. Here is my list of recent administrations in corruption order: Bush II, Clinton, Nixon, Johnson, Trump, Obama, Ford, Bush I, Reagan, Carter. He's right in the middle for me. Opinions might differ, but I place low-level self-aggrandizement and nepotism a lot lower on the scale than blatant pay-for-play Clinton Foundation shenanigans or starting a war and actually legalizing torture so that your friends in Halliburton can get paid.

I hear your points. Most of them are just opinions like mine. You say he handled the Covid crisis badly and his focus is wrong but I disagree. I don't think anyone would have handled it any better and that too much reliance on scientists is a good way to get yourself killed. Like the Sith, scientists only think in absolutes. Scientists shouldn't be in charge of anything. You say he's pardoning people who obstructed investigations, but personally I'm absolutely horrified what happened to Roger Stone and I wouldn't have Trump's discipline in waiting until afterwards to commute his sentence. I don't think anyone other than Stone that Trump pardoned was in any way involved with him.

The only thing I'm going to have to disagree hard on a factual basis is the international situation. First your comment about legitimizing the Norks. North Korea is a legitimate sovereign nation-state and has been for a very long time. They have a border, armed forces and a government; they have international relations such as they are, they trade, and most importantly they can back up their nationhood with a giant pretty mushroom cloud. Not talking to them, not having relations with them is childish spite that does nothing except make them shoot missiles over Japan to show everyone they're still there. Trump went there, he talked to him a couple of times, they exchanged letters and sent a visitor back, it was real nice. Where is the disgrace? Oh we're descending to their level oh noes. We're not at their level. We're the mightiest of them all, but we should show some respect. We bombed the fuck out of them in the 50s and they came back stronger than ever. They took their respect, framed it, put it on the wall and stopped making noise. They've been recognized by the Master MC, the dream of every tin-pot nation and aspiring rapper everywhere.

I can give back on China, but you have to admit they hate him and haven't made any aggressive moves because they're not sure what he'll do. It was Obama's failed pivot-to-Asia that enraged them with our explicit talk of containment and their reaction was to build a dozen islands and claim the entire South China Sea. I like Trump's method, where he's just shitting on them constantly and banning their companies and arresting their executives and keeping them off-balance. I guess I'll take my containment like that.

But for Russia, you gotta pay attention. He fucked them economically. His sanctions screwed their off-shore oil business, they put a halt to the nearly-complete gas pipeline, and if you notice the ruble, which was on a solid run-up in the years before he got elected (thanks flexible Obama!) went into a free-fall in 2016 and has been doing pretty bad until very recently. Militarily I already mentioned the NATO expenditures, but we're also selling lethal weapons to the Ukronazis (I can't resist calling them that), and we effectively moved the eastern NATO border closer to him by 400 miles. There are US armored brigades practicing in Lithuania. Do you know the Poles are going to be getting the Abrams tank? Putin knows. His best buddy Lukashenko is having some kind of big crisis, and it's partly because our friends in the Ukraine (read: the CIA) put out ads in the Belarus media asking for Russian ex-soldiers who had combat experience in the Donbass to work as 'security' guards in some foreign land like Morocco for big bucks, and when they had 33 of them they put them up in a hotel, had them miss their flight, put them up in another hotel this close to Lukashenko's residence and then informed the Belarussian security forces that these guys were plotting a coup and the poor saps were promptly arrested and this caused a giant giant stink which destabilized everything because an enraged Putin pulled his support. The best is that the Ukraine immediately demanded formal extradition of those 33 guys because they were obvious Donbass war criminals, and those are some trials that Putin wants to avoid at all costs. Well played deliverers of lethal aid to the Ukraine, well played! There is a small chance that the Belarussian situation might cause the downfall of Putin. Now that would be some tasty four-dimensional cake!

We could do better than Trump, sure. I mean it's possible. I can't think of a single qualified individual in the entire world that could do the job better though. I mean I don't know everyone of course, but I'm given candidates by the parties, by the media, and they're like here you go, these are the men and women, go choose among them. I looked at everyone they gave us in 2016 both parties, and now 2020 same thing and what have you got? Not a single person with the executive experience, with a tough management style, no one with force and energy. No one just speaking their minds. All just a bunch of fucking caretakers and pretenders and one aging Communist. Every single one of them looks like a person who can't act until they confer, until they reach consensus, until enough people lick their assholes to tell them how right they are.

What saddens me the most I think is not the lack of qualified challengers for Trump but that there is no one waiting in the wings. Think about 2024. Who we're gonna get? Beto again? Haley? Gaetz? I mean I'm ready to vote for another television personality or whatever. Too bad Captain Picard can't run. Avery Brooks is gonna be 76, otherwise a sure vote from me. Brad Pitt? So handsome and just the right age but...yeah no. I wish Marlon Brando was alive. He knew about respect.

At least the spirit lives on.

https://imgur.com/QbNFsBY.jpg

https://imgur.com/MHESADz.jpg

[Kich867]

Lying to congress occurs daily. Stone was sentenced to prison for jaywalking. The whole thing was a joke anyway, it was clinton revenge. They thought they could nail trump the way republicans did. Clinton didn't actually commit a crime until he denied his "activities" with monica while under oath. Dems figured trump was likely to slip up like that. Clinton should have just said, "She blew me, what of it?"

What most people don't get about trumpie is that he's not gonna fall for that, he is old school new york. Mobster style. Treat with your blood enemies, meet them on amicable terms, call them your friend etc.

#PaulCastellano2020

Wow another person that actually idols him. God damn this explains so much. It's not that surprising I guess though most of you are just old people yelling at clouds at this point, but to think he's actually some kind of mastermind and not a dementia patient allowed to walk around in a suit? I mean you can be old but that's just naive.

Like, you know he was a nerd in college right? No one liked him or talked to him. His only claim to fame is having a rich dad? The book about him being a master negotiator was actually a huge lie and his company exists despite him and his multitude of failed endeavors and ideas and the only way they function is keeping him as far as humanly possible away from day to day activities? Maybe that's what it is though, the legions of useless, fat, racist, worthless americans finally found someone that resonates with them and the rest of us, being successful and dealing with real things like our jobs forgot about all those people in the bayous and the mid-west.

Well played.

[Bigsham]

I love trump but holy shit he needs a haircut badly

[Trexller]

Wow another person that actually idols him. God damn this explains so much. It's not that surprising I guess though most of you are just old people yelling at clouds at this point, but to think he's actually some kind of mastermind and not a dementia patient allowed to walk around in a suit? I mean you can be old but that's just naive.

Like, you know he was a nerd in college right? No one liked him or talked to him. His only claim to fame is having a rich dad? The book about him being a master negotiator was actually a huge lie and his company exists despite him and his multitude of failed endeavors and ideas and the only way they function is keeping him as far as humanly possible away from day to day activities? Maybe that's what it is though, the legions of useless, fat, racist, worthless americans finally found someone that resonates with them and the rest of us, being successful and dealing with real things like our jobs forgot about all those people in the bayous and the mid-west.

Your narrative is just stereotypes.

I'm 35, technically millennial, although im ashamed of anyone my age and younger. They are pretty much all entirely useless. I'm also in decent shape, racially inclusive, i work, pay taxes. What does being a nerd in college have to do with anything? Pretty much every politician was shoved in a locker at some point, most of you all are still flying the nerd flag. That ghostwriter on Trump's memoir spent 18 months at trumps side, writing the book. Thats 1987. Come 2016 if any author ever wanted to work again, he had to call out trump publicly.

What does it boil down to for me on the Trump issue?

I don't care what else he does as long as he continues to tell china/noko to go fuck themselves. Priority #1 by a wide margain. Anyone who doesn't understand the china threat on the world stage has their fingers in their ears while yelling la la la la

[Trexller]

I love trump but holy shit he needs a haircut badly

nah then we would see his ghost white bald spot, dude has a pretty elaborate comb-over

also, Blackbellamy is a genius

[BarnabusCollins]

Anyone who still believes its still nation versus nation (like the press wants you to think) has their fingers in their ears. It's now, and has been since the 90s - The Illuminati versus everyone else. They have infiltrated the highest governement positions of every major world power they own controlling stock in every single Fortune 500 corporation, they run the 'free' press and control every bit of information the public sees and hears. They sell arms to both sides of any war. They have their 33rd degree blackbelts (highest ranking of the cult) in presidential/dictatorship leadership positions in many nations, including USA, Canada, France, Britian, Spain, China, Russia, India, Japan, Australia, and South Korea. They control who runs for positions and who is allowed to run. Thats why we will never have another John F. Kennedy.

[Kich867]

Your narrative is just stereotypes.

I'm 35, technically millennial, although im ashamed of anyone my age and younger. They are pretty much all entirely useless. I'm also in decent shape, racially inclusive, i work, pay taxes. What does being a nerd in college have to do with anything? Pretty much every politician was shoved in a locker at some point, most of you all are still flying the nerd flag. That ghostwriter on Trump's memoir spent 18 months at trumps side, writing the book. Thats 1987. Come 2016 if any author ever wanted to work again, he had to call out trump publicly.

What does it boil down to for me on the Trump issue?

I don't care what else he does as long as he continues to tell china/noko to go fuck themselves. Priority #1 by a wide margain. Anyone who doesn't understand the china threat on the world stage has their fingers in their ears while yelling la la la la

So, just to be totally clear, his stance on China is your only hook? His rhetoric? Or are you talking about what he's actually done?

[BarnabusCollins]

If Donald Trump really gave a shit about the USA like he claims, then on Day1 he would have used his Executive Powers as President of the United States of America to utterly abolish the CIA (like JFK planned to), NSA (Bush-era agency to spy on Americans), and Patriot Act (more Bush-era unconstitutional bullshit). He's one of them, just like the rest before (except Kennedy) and after. Doesn't matter who you vote for, they control who gets to even run.

[Trexller]

So, just to be totally clear, his stance on China is your only hook? His rhetoric? Or are you talking about what he's actually done?

Pretty much. I also like his "fuck you" attitude in general. its refreshing to know what a politician actually thinks. Whatever he wants to do with his cronies really has no effect on any of us, unless you live on welfare. If he starts to get lovey dovey with xi jinping my support will wane. I'm also of a thought that if people are saying china is gonna rule the world, then they probably already do. So we might be fucked either way.

No president ever makes their major changes in their first term. Term 1 is all about re-election, term 2 is all about agenda. Thats why the dems made everything go to shit in an election year.
So i'm interested in what this sort of mafia-don type guy does in term 2. Rest assured its coming. Biden put the final nail in his campaign coffin by choosing Kamala harris. Trumps bases numbers are widely underestimated. see 2016.

[BlackBellamy]

I'm a bit hungry so I just wanted to mention Turkey.

Professor Obama. So stenorial, lecturing. He needlessly antagonized Erdrogan with human rights bullshit just when we needed them. He ruined our relationship so much the Turks turned off the power to Incirlik Air Base under the pretense of rooting out some traitors. The most important air base in the Middle East, maybe the world. In constant use by USAF since 1955 and home to over 4k personnel and most importantly, 50 shiny nuclear weapons. Sorry it's so dark, we're looking for some coup plotters. Or maybe the Americans are really upset about those reporters and protesters and have something to do with all this. Hang tight.

Trump met with the guy, he glad-handed him and gave him a nice dinner for sure, showed him around; the best of friends. Go look at the pictures Erdrogan looks happy as shit. (A week or so ago Erdrogan declared the Hagia Sophia a mosque again and Trump didn't say shit. I'm sure Obama would go on and on about fundamentalism and lectures about fomenting sectarian strife). I'm sure Erdrogan came with a long list of things he would love to have and Trump made all his dreams come true. Just don't attack the Israelites, please. We're going to need you to do something for us later, don't worry about it now though. How about that Dubai though, right?

Now the Turks are doing all the heavy lifting in Libya for us since the Egyptians can't be trusted to stay Egyptians and besides they're backing the wrong horse. The Turks took responsibility for their Syrian area and all of sudden we're not having any problems there. Do you know why you haven't heard anything from the poor oppressed Kurds and how badly the Turks are mistreating them? Because Obama's foreign service isn't out there amplifying their terrorist propaganda. Trump dropped support for them fast, good riddance to those trouble making dweebs. Like Trump said, they weren't with us in Normandy. I mean neither were the Turks but rightly we need to support the most moderate and also the most stable and powerful Muslim nation, if we have to support any. Turkey has been a solid NATO ally since 1952 all the while knowing they're gonna take hot nukes up the Istanbul in any real war since they hosted nukes themselves. And how do we repay them? Oh you're arresting too many reporters. Erdrogan was probably too polite to provide a list of Obama-separated children.

What's my point? Trump is a genius. A stable one. The stability comes from having hours and hours of executive time, time you and I (I especially) might waste trying to build a proper magma forge in Dwarf Fortress, but time that Trump uses to see the future, like Dr. Manhattan. And the genius comes from distilling a very complex situation and synthesizing all the information and using the simplest communication method (out of the past 15 presidents as measured on the Flesch-Kincaid grade level scale) to get shit done. When a fourth-grader tells you what he wants you to do, you understand exactly so you go to the pony store and get him a pony. When the professor wants something, it's like you think you remembered all those words and what he said, but he just went on and on. In the end you were kind of left with a feeling he was talking so much because he wanted to fuck you. So you go and make friends with some smelly Kurd.

[Trexller]

If Donald Trump really gave a shit about the USA like he claims, then on Day1 he would have used his Executive Powers as President of the United States of America to utterly abolish the CIA

thats exactly how JFK met his fate. anyone in the know, knows this. You can't just disband and discard an agency who's entire business is knowing your dirt, and getting stuff done without anyone knowing. The CIA is its own type of monster.

[BlackBellamy]

61% believe it was a conspiracy. 30% believe he acted alone. 9% express no opinion.

I love how little things reveal human psychology and the need to be part of a group. 91%. Nine out of ten people think they have an informed opinion about an event they know nothing about. Literally no one on earth at this time can prove it either way. It's all magic bullet and LBJ and bush or shrub...grassy knoll that's it. Conjectures, theories.

Anyone proficient with a rifle can hit a volleyball 265 feet away 5 out of 6 times. Even if it's tied to a pig and you give that pig a nice kick. That pig can be running around the parking lot and you're like blam, that's a hit, blam, that's a hit. Look the pig is ok too! All right maybe not. Sorry Governor.

Still the coincidences are insane. The dude was in Red Square so he's working for Russians obviously. And then he was silenced by a cancerous mob associate? What the fuck? How come it's like a hundred years later and we still don't have a primary document, no confession, nothing. Not a single person involved in this vast conspiracy had second thoughts ever. They never wrote down any deathbed confession, no one did. No one said you know, maybe conspiring to kill the President was a bad idea and I was a bad person but now I found Jesus so.... But then again there are dozens of weird smelly incidents that were never explained so maybe the conspiracy was tight. Or maybe it was a matter of silencing those involved. Who knows.

Fun to think about. Fun to think what kind of murderous war Kennedy would have gotten us into if he lived. What the future might have been. Oh wait. Right...Vietnam. It would have been exactly the same.

[Woke Locc]

I wouldn't expect a Coptic dog to understand that sovereignty and moral sovereignty are different things.

[BlackBellamy]

Out of all Battlefield games, Battlefield:Vietnam was my favorite. Nothing captured that feeling of being there. Fucking Creedence, right?

https://imgur.com/hGCROxD.jpg

Get some! Get some!

Man I loved that game. I'm glad Kennedy got us into that war than, let's say Cuba.

[BlackBellamy]

i like your analysis. its a fun tom clancy take on things,

Thanks, I thought Red Storm Rising was just awesome although I didn't care for his other works. I was a big fan of the Soviet bum-rush but I found books like the one by Hackett to be dry. I like a little fiction in my jursidiction.

I wish you the best of luck in your goals though because I admire the struggle up to a point. I want to remind you that the systems your're trying to abolish are organic. I'm not passing value judgement on them, just saying that organic things are very hard to fight. Because they form naturally.

Like look, the thing about workers and the police. Let's take a person, we can call him a worker because they are self-fulfilled mostly by being productive and being occupied and useful. That person doesn't want to be armed for several reasons. First is that the vast majority of people they don't like the anxiety of thinking they might have to shoot someone and there would be blood and people screaming. And two is that as someone who wants to be productive, a worker, they know that they can spend a lot of time providing security or standing up for their rights with their guns, or they can spend less time making some product, selling that product, and then pooling their money with other workers to...hire security people. Who carry guns.

In a primitive society, every male outside the infirm carries a spear. So there we go. But organically, all primitive societies become complex, and then some cop is hassling you. You can't abolish the police because you can't abolish crime and you can't abolish the ability and desire of people to cooperate in groups and assign specialized tasks among themselves. You can make the police better or worse but that's the range. If you abolish the police I will hire someone to be the police and then we will have police again. And I will be more powerful because you guys are going to be part-time policemen and my guys well...they're just going to be cracking skulls and there goes your society.

Same thing with wealth and state. Your wealth means nothing if there isn't an administrative body that allows you to compare your wealth and trade it. I mean yeah, you can trade one pelican for three rocks, but for any transactions more complex you need standards so you can build trust. You can't build a hydroelectric plant in a barter economy. So as a worker you're outsourcing stability, security, and regulation. If you had to do all that it would take you all day. But this way it's paid off by April.

Other things are more possible. I mean I'm all against "seeking funding" from aristocrats, by which I mean stopping the destructive power of private equity firms who like my past girlfriends only destroy wealth and never add anything of value. I worked for an outfit that was acquired by Henry Kravis' for a bit, I've seen the damage they do firsthand the fucking vultures. I'm all for people developing systems where they don't have to suck dick for money they are being scammed into thinking they need.

I don't have an opinion on the Palestinians.

Thank god.

[Kich867]

Out of all Battlefield games, Battlefield:Vietnam was my favorite. Nothing captured that feeling of being there. Fucking Creedence, right?

https://imgur.com/hGCROxD.jpg

Get some! Get some!

Man I loved that game. I'm glad Kennedy got us into that war than, let's say Cuba.

I mean of all the crazy bullshit you've spouted on this thread so far, bird is the word. All I'm saying.

[BlackBellamy]

You would figure I would definitely have an opinion on the Palestinians.

[Fame]

I like reading your posts. Often I find you slightly ahead of the curve for some conservative content but I pretty much only know poor rural plebs so it’s expected.

I think trump wins.

I’m wondering, if he doesn’t, are you gonna shut the fuck up or double down?

[zodium]

Thanks, I thought Red Storm Rising was just awesome although I didn't care for his other works. I was a big fan of the Soviet bum-rush but I found books like the one by Hackett to be dry. I like a little fiction in my jursidiction.

I wish you the best of luck in your goals though because I admire the struggle up to a point. I want to remind you that the systems your're trying to abolish are organic. I'm not passing value judgement on them, just saying that organic things are very hard to fight. Because they form naturally.

Like look, the thing about workers and the police. Let's take a person, we can call him a worker because they are self-fulfilled mostly by being productive and being occupied and useful. That person doesn't want to be armed for several reasons. First is that the vast majority of people they don't like the anxiety of thinking they might have to shoot someone and there would be blood and people screaming. And two is that as someone who wants to be productive, a worker, they know that they can spend a lot of time providing security or standing up for their rights with their guns, or they can spend less time making some product, selling that product, and then pooling their money with other workers to...hire security people. Who carry guns.

In a primitive society, every male outside the infirm carries a spear. So there we go. But organically, all primitive societies become complex, and then some cop is hassling you. You can't abolish the police because you can't abolish crime and you can't abolish the ability and desire of people to cooperate in groups and assign specialized tasks among themselves. You can make the police better or worse but that's the range. If you abolish the police I will hire someone to be the police and then we will have police again. And I will be more powerful because you guys are going to be part-time policemen and my guys well...they're just going to be cracking skulls and there goes your society.

Same thing with wealth and state. Your wealth means nothing if there isn't an administrative body that allows you to compare your wealth and trade it. I mean yeah, you can trade one pelican for three rocks, but for any transactions more complex you need standards so you can build trust. You can't build a hydroelectric plant in a barter economy. So as a worker you're outsourcing stability, security, and regulation. If you had to do all that it would take you all day. But this way it's paid off by April.

Other things are more possible. I mean I'm all against "seeking funding" from aristocrats, by which I mean stopping the destructive power of private equity firms who like my past girlfriends only destroy wealth and never add anything of value. I worked for an outfit that was acquired by Henry Kravis' for a bit, I've seen the damage they do firsthand the fucking vultures. I'm all for people developing systems where they don't have to suck dick for money they are being scammed into thinking they need.

I don't have an opinion on the Palestinians.

Thank god.

capitalism is a natural and organic stage of economic development. the class struggle you describe is central to its development, although it plays out slightly differently: "primitive" people going about surviving developed useful skills and tools, like cultivation and animal husbandry and medicine, and as these became more efficient and valuable relative to laboring, the use-value of violence rose. specifically, warrior classes appear because it is easier to make violence your labor and threaten others to hand over their labor, forcing societies to piss away resources on "guard labor" to survive. this is not "more complex," and the notion that it is is perhaps the oldest case of revisionism -- in reality, even neanderthals (https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/fossils/shanidar-1) enjoyed the benefits liberalism assigns to "complex" societies, which really stretches the word beyond meaning. capitalism derives power not from creating surplus, but from managing surplus, from finding the optimal amount of violence to inflict.

your analysis of wealth is true as well. indeed, hunter-gatherers can't build a hydroelectric plant. nor do they need to i suppose, but i am not a primitivist, so i can't speak to that. i like civilization. in any case, we marxists do not propose a barter economy. but we understand that capitalism will end, organically, by the same forces that birthed it. that is the whole point of lenin's warnings about imperialism, or "crony capitalism." that it is every bit as inevitable for the parasitical capitalist class to emerge and grow within the capitalist economy as it is for a warrior class to emerge within the hunter-gatherer society.

in both instances, the increasing dominance of the new class brings the system to a higher level of organization where all non-members of the dominant class (if you can't stop working while you live off passive income, that's you) are enslaved, and the lower to middle members of the dominant class become gradually relegated to working class. there is never a point where it fully implodes in a cataclysmic explosion. it's more like the centuries of slowly receding productive forces and organization you saw after the western roman empire failed to produce a new superstructure when the economic base outgrew the imperial state, where everyone was a huge doomer walking around constantly being reminded of living in the corpse of a much greater civilization.

joe biden and donald trump are both members of the parasite class, as are the UAE's elites, as are all bourgeoisie (people who can stop working and live off passive income) who participates in the global system of capital and dont turn class traitor. the parasitical class' material interests lie with bringing the system to this higher state as soon as possible. it's all organic, individual decisionmaking based on material conditions. its still happening.

in some utopian sense, communism is simply the very common-sense idea that we shouldn't have a parasite class. pretty much everyone agrees with that. the hard theoretical problem is how we get rid of them.

[douglas1999]

capitalism is a natural and organic stage of economic development. the class struggle you describe is central to its development, although it plays out slightly differently: "primitive" people going about surviving developed useful skills and tools, like cultivation and animal husbandry and medicine, and as these became more efficient and valuable relative to laboring, the use-value of violence rose. specifically, warrior classes appear because it is easier to make violence your labor and threaten others to hand over their labor, forcing societies to piss away resources on "guard labor" to survive. this is not "more complex," and the notion that it is is perhaps the oldest case of revisionism -- in reality, even neanderthals (https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/fossils/shanidar-1) enjoyed the benefits liberalism assigns to "complex" societies, which really stretches the word beyond meaning. capitalism derives power not from creating surplus, but from managing surplus, from finding the optimal amount of violence to inflict.

your analysis of wealth is true as well. indeed, hunter-gatherers can't build a hydroelectric plant. nor do they need to i suppose, but i am not a primitivist, so i can't speak to that. i like civilization. in any case, we marxists do not propose a barter economy. but we understand that capitalism will end, organically, by the same forces that birthed it. that is the whole point of lenin's warnings about imperialism, or "crony capitalism." that it is every bit as inevitable for the parasitical capitalist class to emerge and grow within the capitalist economy as it is for a warrior class to emerge within the hunter-gatherer society.

in both instances, the increasing dominance of the new class brings the system to a higher level of organization where all non-members of the dominant class (if you can't stop working while you live off passive income, that's you) are enslaved, and the lower to middle members of the dominant class become gradually relegated to working class. there is never a point where it fully implodes in a cataclysmic explosion. it's more like the centuries of slowly receding productive forces and organization you saw after the western roman empire failed to produce a new superstructure when the economic base outgrew the imperial state, where everyone was a huge doomer walking around constantly being reminded of living in the corpse of a much greater civilization.

joe biden and donald trump are both members of the parasite class, as are the UAE's elites, as are all bourgeoisie (people who can stop working and live off passive income) who participates in the global system of capital and dont turn class traitor. the parasitical class' material interests lie with bringing the system to this higher state as soon as possible. it's all organic, individual decisionmaking based on material conditions. its still happening.

in some utopian sense, communism is simply the very common-sense idea that we shouldn't have a parasite class. pretty much everyone agrees with that. the hard theoretical problem is how we get rid of them.

I gave up my passive income just the other day!

[douglas1999]

If you could wave a magic wand and rid the entire human experience of all unfairness, nothing would really change. We could reduce the murder rate to 0% by putting everyone in a concrete cell. There are no solutions there are only tradeoffs

[zodium]

If you could wave a magic wand and rid the entire human experience of all unfairness, nothing would really change. We could reduce the murder rate to 0% by putting everyone in a concrete cell. There are no solutions there are only tradeoffs

Liberals don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Liberalism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in liberalism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

[Convict]

Sure you can! But it's the same pizza wherever you go. Biden pizza. Clinton pizza. Obama deep dish, but it's all the same. Trump is the Hawaiian pizza of pizzas. Everyone has an extreme opinion about the ham and pineapple, there is no middle ground. But at least that last pie is fun.

Trump is corrupt. Here is my list of recent administrations in corruption order: Bush II, Clinton, Nixon, Johnson, Trump, Obama, Ford, Bush I, Reagan, Carter. He's right in the middle for me. Opinions might differ, but I place low-level self-aggrandizement and nepotism a lot lower on the scale than blatant pay-for-play Clinton Foundation shenanigans or starting a war and actually legalizing torture so that your friends in Halliburton can get paid.

I hear your points. Most of them are just opinions like mine. You say he handled the Covid crisis badly and his focus is wrong but I disagree. I don't think anyone would have handled it any better and that too much reliance on scientists is a good way to get yourself killed. Like the Sith, scientists only think in absolutes. Scientists shouldn't be in charge of anything. You say he's pardoning people who obstructed investigations, but personally I'm absolutely horrified what happened to Roger Stone and I wouldn't have Trump's discipline in waiting until afterwards to commute his sentence. I don't think anyone other than Stone that Trump pardoned was in any way involved with him.

The only thing I'm going to have to disagree hard on a factual basis is the international situation. First your comment about legitimizing the Norks. North Korea is a legitimate sovereign nation-state and has been for a very long time. They have a border, armed forces and a government; they have international relations such as they are, they trade, and most importantly they can back up their nationhood with a giant pretty mushroom cloud. Not talking to them, not having relations with them is childish spite that does nothing except make them shoot missiles over Japan to show everyone they're still there. Trump went there, he talked to him a couple of times, they exchanged letters and sent a visitor back, it was real nice. Where is the disgrace? Oh we're descending to their level oh noes. We're not at their level. We're the mightiest of them all, but we should show some respect. We bombed the fuck out of them in the 50s and they came back stronger than ever. They took their respect, framed it, put it on the wall and stopped making noise. They've been recognized by the Master MC, the dream of every tin-pot nation and aspiring rapper everywhere.

I can give back on China, but you have to admit they hate him and haven't made any aggressive moves because they're not sure what he'll do. It was Obama's failed pivot-to-Asia that enraged them with our explicit talk of containment and their reaction was to build a dozen islands and claim the entire South China Sea. I like Trump's method, where he's just shitting on them constantly and banning their companies and arresting their executives and keeping them off-balance. I guess I'll take my containment like that.

But for Russia, you gotta pay attention. He fucked them economically. His sanctions screwed their off-shore oil business, they put a halt to the nearly-complete gas pipeline, and if you notice the ruble, which was on a solid run-up in the years before he got elected (thanks flexible Obama!) went into a free-fall in 2016 and has been doing pretty bad until very recently. Militarily I already mentioned the NATO expenditures, but we're also selling lethal weapons to the Ukronazis (I can't resist calling them that), and we effectively moved the eastern NATO border closer to him by 400 miles. There are US armored brigades practicing in Lithuania. Do you know the Poles are going to be getting the Abrams tank? Putin knows. His best buddy Lukashenko is having some kind of big crisis, and it's partly because our friends in the Ukraine (read: the CIA) put out ads in the Belarus media asking for Russian ex-soldiers who had combat experience in the Donbass to work as 'security' guards in some foreign land like Morocco for big bucks, and when they had 33 of them they put them up in a hotel, had them miss their flight, put them up in another hotel this close to Lukashenko's residence and then informed the Belarussian security forces that these guys were plotting a coup and the poor saps were promptly arrested and this caused a giant giant stink which destabilized everything because an enraged Putin pulled his support. The best is that the Ukraine immediately demanded formal extradition of those 33 guys because they were obvious Donbass war criminals, and those are some trials that Putin wants to avoid at all costs. Well played deliverers of lethal aid to the Ukraine, well played! There is a small chance that the Belarussian situation might cause the downfall of Putin. Now that would be some tasty four-dimensional cake!

We could do better than Trump, sure. I mean it's possible. I can't think of a single qualified individual in the entire world that could do the job better though. I mean I don't know everyone of course, but I'm given candidates by the parties, by the media, and they're like here you go, these are the men and women, go choose among them. I looked at everyone they gave us in 2016 both parties, and now 2020 same thing and what have you got? Not a single person with the executive experience, with a tough management style, no one with force and energy. No one just speaking their minds. All just a bunch of fucking caretakers and pretenders and one aging Communist. Every single one of them looks like a person who can't act until they confer, until they reach consensus, until enough people lick their assholes to tell them how right they are.

What saddens me the most I think is not the lack of qualified challengers for Trump but that there is no one waiting in the wings. Think about 2024. Who we're gonna get? Beto again? Haley? Gaetz? I mean I'm ready to vote for another television personality or whatever. Too bad Captain Picard can't run. Avery Brooks is gonna be 76, otherwise a sure vote from me. Brad Pitt? So handsome and just the right age but...yeah no. I wish Marlon Brando was alive. He knew about respect.

At least the spirit lives on.


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[Bigsham]

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[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/d8gHkA2.png

lol

[Baler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnZKBSchuhQ

[Patriam1066]

Liberals don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Liberalism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in liberalism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

Did your single mother teach you this? Get a job and a vasectomy

[imperiouskitten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnZKBSchuhQ

Oh come on, man.

[Trexller]

lol

One Democrat who spoke to Obama recalled the former president warning, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.”

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-393570

[Woke Locc]

lol

One Democrat who spoke to Obama recalled the former president warning, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.”

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-393570

That's how we got gay marriage legalized. Joe forgot what the plan was and just kinda blurted it out.

Go Joe

[Bigsham]

All marriage should be illegal

literally worst thing you can do

[BlackBellamy]

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[BlackBellamy]

I went to the same high school Hillary Clinton attended (Go Demons!). If I knew what was going to happen I would have stayed late in chemistry lab and sent myself back in time some years and then I would have broken her heart so bad her self-esteem would be just destroyed and she would wind up in a mental hospital and never make it to Wellesley.

I would have been a hero. I mean no one would know. No one but Trump. He would drive by in his big limo and just give that famous thumbs up and drive off. I expect I would get a visit from Clinton too, and he would have the same sized limo except it would be open topped and have a jacuzzi and Kamala Harris would be just sucking his dick.

[Patriam1066]

Immigrants and their descendants should not be allowed citizenship without career service (twenty years) in the military. Coast guard doesn’t count

The sense of civics in this country is at an all time low. Also, diabetics and the obese should be stripped of the franchise as well as felons

[Woke Locc]

The sense of civics in this country is at an all time low. Also, diabetics and the obese should be stripped of the franchise as well as felons

I'll say. :eek:

[zodium]

Also, diabetics and the obese should be stripped of the franchise as well as felons

stop disenfranchising yourself

[Swish]

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If I was Harris I'd be worried.

[BlackBellamy]

If I was Harris I'd be worried.

You don't think Clinton has the discipline to keep her own personal sour grapes over her titanic failure out of her 'support' for Harris?

Yeah, neither do I :)

I can't wait for her to mention how clean and articulate Khamal is compared to Drumpf.

[Topgunben]

Is it pronounced kamuhluh or kuhmoluh?

[Trexller]

Camel-Uh, to those in the know

but who cares. 6 months from now she will be yesterday's news.

[BlackBellamy]

https://imgur.com/n6Z3Ecb.jpg

You know I love the ladies but we should never have let them vote. I'm sorry. Picking a leader shouldn't be done on the basis of 'feelings'.

If anyone has a better explanation why women support Biden 59% to 36% I would love to hear it.

If they just let men vote it would be a Trump landslide 56% to 40%.

When I talk politics with my friends we debate policy issues. When the sandwiches arrive, they arrive with comments like "I don't like him".

Don't call me a misogynist please. I'm a gender-realist.

[BlackBellamy]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8634501/Trump-narrowed-gap-Biden-poll-shows.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/16/politics/cnn-poll-biden-trump-august/index.html

Trump has narrowed the gap with Biden with the Democratic challenger's lead shrinking to just one point in 15 key election battleground states, poll shows.

The survey, carried out from August 12-15, found that Democratic candidate Joe Biden and his running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris had a national 4-point advantage over Trump and Vice President Mike Pence at 50%-46%.

The 4-point advantage given to the Democrats was on the cusp of the poll's margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Plus or minus 4 margin of error means they could be essentially tied.

In the 15 crucial battleground states, the gap had closed even further with Biden given just a 1-point lead over Trump at 49%-48%.

And with the margin of error, (assuming it's the same poll), Trump could actually be ahead by 3%.

The movement among voters nationwide towards Trump and Pence since June is concentrated among men and those between the age of 35 and 64.

And there it is. Who is moving to Trump? Men and other mature people.

Who is not moving to Trump? People under 35, i.e. those still governed by their feelings. Children then, according to the post-modernist development theory.

We are letting children and women decide our future. I mean we're not, because Drumpf will smite all, but c'mon.

[zodium]

joe biden won't drop out. capital will carry his rigid corpse across the finish line if necessary. he is going to win and make permanent all gains for capital made under trump, and he's going to make every american worth less than eight digits eat shit. you'll get a bucket and a pack of shit in the mail after he privatizes your postal service.

[BlackBellamy]

This is true. I wish I could re-edit the subject. I honestly thought they were just waiting to find someone better, but no, they're going with the amnesiac poolfan.

Hang on a second, I'm getting overwhelmed by some hilarious deja-vu:

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[BlackBellamy]

When I talk politics with my friends we debate policy issues. When the sandwiches arrive, they arrive with comments like "I don't like him".

Don't call me a misogynist please. I'm a gender-realist.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/us/politics/democrats-women-voters-anger.html

The ‘Rage Moms’ Democrats Are Counting On

“Right now, I think women have just had it up to their eyeballs,” Ms. Warren said in an interview. “They no longer feel isolated and one-off in how they couldn’t figure out how to make the system work, and recognize the system is broken, and nobody’s making it work.”

Ms. Warren added: “They’re fired up. And I love it.”

Yeah let's get those emotions flowing! Fire them up!

As an aside...

“Moms definitely know how to multitask,” said Smitha Chadaga, who has spent a career working as an internist in a hospital and became politically active after the 2016 election, when her children asked if their family would have to leave the United States

Fuck you Smitha, I'm dealing with four different things at work right now and that includes placating one real angry lawyer. I'm also dealing with my wife's feelings. No one multitasks better than men. I'm tired of these kinds of falsehoods. You want to see some next-level multitasking go out on a patrol outside of Kandahar.

[BlackBellamy]

Hey let's tell the world about who really gutted the Postal Service!

https://imgur.com/gXjAz6w.jpg

Leftist-controlled social media says nuh-uh!

[BlackBellamy]

. you'll get a bucket and a pack of shit in the mail after he privatizes your postal service.

No I won't! They promised the freed slaves 40 acres and a mule, but the Compromise of 1877 put an end to that dream just 12 years later and the slavery continued under a different name. I'm going to get a bucket with a hole in it, then a tax bill for the bucket. When I inquire about my pack of shit I'll be told told don't worry, your Biden Bucket has a hole anyway. Then I'll be fined for a leaky bucket. Finally, when I show up to vote I'll be turned away because I don't have my pack of shit.

[BlackBellamy]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8634501/Trump-narrowed-gap-Biden-poll-shows.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/16/politics/cnn-poll-biden-trump-august/index.html
...
And with the margin of error, (assuming it's the same poll), Trump could actually be ahead by 3%.



So I just posted the new polls, showing Trump closing in, or maybe ahead.

And here we go, agitprop going out RIGHT AWAY.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-election-forecast-didnt-say-what-i-thought-it-would/

Don't worry kids.

But the basic starting point for a probabilistic, poll-driven model ought to be this: Is polling in August a highly reliable way to predict the outcome in November?

The short answer is “no.”

Yeah those polls that just came out? Yeah...you see those are August Polls. Ever since we correctly predicted Hillary would win back then we discovered that August Polls are uniquely faulty. June, July polls? Fuckin' solid man! September polls? Truthful!

August? Put on your mask, go back to sleep, don't worry about it. Everything is going to be all right. Trust your feelings.

[Kich867]

Hey let's tell the world about who really gutted the Postal Service!

https://imgur.com/gXjAz6w.jpg

Leftist-controlled social media says nuh-uh!

Surely it had nothing to do with this law (https://www.congress.gov/109/plaws/publ435/PLAW-109publ435.pdf#page=56). Prior to that it was profitable. Obviously that's not the only thing, but that republican legislation has cost them pretty significantly and there's a sharp decline of viability from that point forward.

[Topgunben]

Surely it had nothing to do with this law (https://www.congress.gov/109/plaws/publ435/PLAW-109publ435.pdf#page=56). Prior to that it was profitable. Obviously that's not the only thing, but that republican legislation has cost them pretty significantly and there's a sharp decline of viability from that point forward.

The USPS is a total joke. Go into a UPS or FEDEX and then compare that with USPS. One of those 3 places you will be treated like a total inconvenience, ill let you guess which one.

[Kich867]

The USPS is a total joke. Go into a UPS or FEDEX and then compare that with USPS. One of those 3 places you will be treated like a total inconvenience, ill let you guess which one.

Yeah I mean, maybe your local one sucks, the several I've been to had really nice people there, but again I don't live in a swamp so maybe that's why, idk.

Also that's not really what I was talking about, I think most people don't get particularly good service at the DMV either, or probably most other government agencies.

The USPS though, is required to deliver mail to any and all locations in the United States, there's definitely communities that either wouldn't get delivered to or they'd be charged insane prices by UPS/Fedex to deliver there..but that's also kind of besides the point.

It's not really meant to be profitable, it was created with the intent to only charge as much as it needed to to sustain itself because we all sort of agreed people should have access to getting mail. So, I mean, its kind of problematic that it's not breaking even I think is probably a better conversation to have and maybe investigate why that is and what decisions lead to this point that maybe could be rectified.

[Patriam1066]

So I just posted the new polls, showing Trump closing in, or maybe ahead.

And here we go, agitprop going out RIGHT AWAY.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-election-forecast-didnt-say-what-i-thought-it-would/

Don't worry kids.



Yeah those polls that just came out? Yeah...you see those are August Polls. Ever since we correctly predicted Hillary would win back then we discovered that August Polls are uniquely faulty. June, July polls? Fuckin' solid man! September polls? Truthful!

August? Put on your mask, go back to sleep, don't worry about it. Everything is going to be all right. Trust your feelings.

You think he’ll win the Midwest this time? It was close last time, and Hillary was historically unpopular. People like Biden in the Midwest. He looks like their uncle or grandpa

[Bigsham]

No idea who they are asking but when trump wins again there will be riots for months


He will win 100% because thats what he does

win

if this post makes you mad, you are a fucking loser

[Patriam1066]

I doubt he’ll win, but I won’t be mad or riot if he does. It would be a sad day for America, but not surprising at this point

[Trexller]

I doubt he’ll win, but I won’t be mad or riot if he does. It would be a sad day for America, but not surprising at this point


Patriam1066's daily thoughts on Biden

[BlackBellamy]

You think he’ll win the Midwest this time? It was close last time, and Hillary was historically unpopular. People like Biden in the Midwest. He looks like their uncle or grandpa

This is shaking out to the be weirdest election of my lifetime so I'm not sure.

On one hand we have the Hand of God. The Lord is wrought or tests us, but either way the virus comes and it mostly affects the mind. It's the first Amygdalic Virus. It's causing fear and panic and lots of irrational thoughts. Very strong emotions with this one, less so with the coughing. It's a great variable.

On the other hand we have the riots, which were a gigantic misfire by the Democrats. Cowed and instructed they allowed their footsoldiers a little too much latitude. I don't think the continuous scenes of a devastated and boarded-up America are winning the Democrats any good will here, being how they run these giant burning shitholes.

Things are so volatile I have no idea.

https://imgur.com/vzEOJAv.jpg

I mean ideally it will look like this.

[Kich867]

This is shaking out to the be weirdest election of my lifetime so I'm not sure.

On one hand we have the Hand of God. The Lord is wrought or tests us, but either way the virus comes and it mostly affects the mind. It's the first Amygdalic Virus. It's causing fear and panic and lots of irrational thoughts. Very strong emotions with this one, less so with the coughing. It's a great variable.

On the other hand we have the riots, which were a gigantic misfire by the Democrats. Cowed and instructed they allowed their footsoldiers a little too much latitude. I don't think the continuous scenes of a devastated and boarded-up America are winning the Democrats any good will here, being how they run these giant burning shitholes.

Things are so volatile I have no idea.

https://imgur.com/vzEOJAv.jpg

I mean ideally it will look like this.

Wait aren't you the guy that said scientists only deal in absolutes and trusting them will kill you? Just trying to make sure I'm associating certain things to the right people. Or is that fake news and someone was intentionally making you look bad?

[BlackBellamy]

Yes, although I was referring to policy and management decisions. Like their job is to explain the situation and other people make decisions, people who see the big picture outside the test tube. Like when Fauci said "pause in the opening and maybe even take a step back in our phases" that's not an opinion he should have because he only sees the medical/scientific applications, and meanwhile I can't go to the game. Fuck that guy. Play ball!

[HalflingSpergand]

whoooooo gives a fuck

[Kich867]

Yes, although I was referring to policy and management decisions. Like their job is to explain the situation and other people make decisions, people who see the big picture outside the test tube. Like when Fauci said "pause in the opening and maybe even take a step back in our phases" that's not an opinion he should have because he only sees the medical/scientific applications, and meanwhile I can't go to the game. Fuck that guy. Play ball!

Right that's cool and all but, just so we're on the same page though, you have a vague idea of what science is and how it works?

Saying that it deals in absolutes seems kind of ignorant is all, so just making sure. Also, why can't he have that opinion? You don't actually have to do what doctors recommend but recommending a course of action is...somewhat the point, no?

Like I was in the hospital recently and the PCA were like "we have to take your blood at 4am" and I was like "nah I'm good don't do that" and they were like "we have to" and I was like "nah I'm good" and then they didn't and I finally got a good night sleep there. On the flip side when I had a migraine* that blinded me temporarily in one eye and the neurologist was like "Hey dog we gotta do hella tests immediately to make sure you're not absolutely fucked, I'm going to call a stroke code to expedite it, a shit ton of people are going to rush you, is that cool?" I was like "yeah that's cool I'd like to know that too, scan the fuck outta this brain".

The neurologist wouldn't be very helpful if he just swung by like "Yo you might've had a stroke" and walked away.

*Neurologists currently assume this, because they don't deal in absolutes, because there's no evidence or indications of any harm whatsoever to my brain or eyes, they really only ruled out all the super scary shit that it could have been but don't know what actually happened. In fact, it'd be kinda dope if they _did_ only deal in absolutes and could tell me exactly what happened, because nothing makes you feel better than randomly going blind for 30 seconds and doctors being like "bro no fuckin idea that's weird".

[imperiouskitten]

For my money: Trump will win in a landslide because the Dems are currently paid to lose.

It's like 2016 except our info matrix generators are even more corrupt and factionalized. No news outlets reporting Pew Presidential polls this cycle, but wow! the polls say Joe's winning.

[Trexller]

He looks like their uncle or grandpa


Biden is more like the uncle that you don't let your kids spend time with alone

[Baler]

Mental wounds still screaming
Driving him insane
Biden going off the rails on a crazy train

[BlackBellamy]

The trolling intensifies!

https://imgur.com/oY6Z7xO.jpg

Of course the media is taking the bait this is so awesome.

8th term! 9th term! lol

[Kich867]

Biden is more like the uncle that you don't let your kids spend time with alone

Trump hung out with Epstein a looooot though.

[Baler]

Trump & Biden hung out with Epstein a looooot though.
FTFY

[Kich867]

FTFY

A whole lot.

[BlackBellamy]

Like I was in the hospital recently

Your personal anecdote is very touching. Please, listen to your doctor! The guy on TV, the guy who doesn't know you personally? Don't listen to him.

[BlackBellamy]

Trump hung out with Epstein a looooot though.

You would hang out with Epstein too, though. So would I. We'd both be like come over here Epstein and tell us where the cocaine is and he would just laugh that Epstein laugh and go everywhere, man it's everywhere. And then the legal-on-his-island girls would come out.

[Kich867]

Your personal anecdote is very touching. Please, listen to your doctor! The guy on TV, the guy who doesn't know you personally? Don't listen to him.

I've never had a doctor that knew me personally, I think that'd be weird. I don't want them to, fuck that, in fact I want them to know as little about me as possible, be objective. I move every few years for work and rarely visit them anyways, but why wouldn't I listen to someone who has spent decades studying something that I know very little about? Isn't that really just suggesting not to respect and listen to your elders?

Broadly speaking, where else would you seek advice other than from people who spent their lives studying the thing you're asking about? Is it really that threatening to you to be comfortable assuming you don't have the answer?

[Kich867]

You would hang out with Epstein too, though. So would I. We'd both be like come over here Epstein and tell us where the cocaine is and he would just laugh that Epstein laugh and go everywhere, man it's everywhere. And then the legal-on-his-island girls would come out.

I factually wouldn't hang out with him, but I guess we've sussed out that you're cool with raping kids? That was a super fucking weird thing to say.

[Baler]

I factually wouldn't hang out with him, but I guess we've sussed out that you're cool with raping kids? That was a super fucking weird thing to say.

Look out folks, Kich is holier than thou :rolleyes:
If you were drunk with power you'd be a different person.

[Trexller]

Trump hung out with Epstein a looooot though.

Trump kicked Epstein out of mar a lago and then banned him from it.

If you've been paying attention, Ive said before that among the super wealthy, favors are currency. Setting yourself up for blackmail is considered good faith on your end of the favor. Anyone who is anyone had some connection to epstein. Thats how he was protected for decades. Most people just have no understanding of this top tier of human existance. Nor does a few pictures constitute "a looooot" Go do some research you can find pics of epstein with hundreds of wealthy people.

Got anymore half baked thoughts?

[Kich867]

Look out folks, Kich is holier than thou :rolleyes:
If you were drunk with power you'd be a different person.

I was raised by normal people.

[Baler]

I was raised by normal people.

You missed the point entirely. Which explains why you struggle with reality.
I present a simple concept and you completely missed the board.
I guess that's why you clash with my posts, we're different people but I'm based in reality.

[Kich867]

You missed the point entirely. Which explains why you struggle with reality.
I present a simple concept and you completely missed the board.

I think you missed the answer ;)

[Baler]

I think you missed the answer ;)

Is this a defensive response? If so I'm not aligned with your programed bias.

I really don't think it was appropriate for you to call another user a child predator without proof.

[BlackBellamy]

I factually wouldn't hang out with him, but I guess we've sussed out that you're cool with raping kids? That was a super fucking weird thing to say.

Whoa whoa Mr. Projection, I'm thinking you should get off the island before you get us all in trouble. I'm a gonna go back to snorting coke off the tits of that grown woman over there. The US Virgin Islands say she's 16 and fully capable of making her own decisions.

[BlackBellamy]

Joe Biden REMOVED 12,000 MAILBOXES!!

https://www.uspsoig.gov/blog/where-have-all-collection-boxes-gone

https://imgur.com/KCNfL6D.jpg

Look at the date, right? And also would Obama dirty his hands with the Post Office? No, go send Joe! Biden's dirty Chinese-masturbating hands are all over this I know it.

[BlackBellamy]

https://imgur.com/kxKfFBd.jpg

https://imgur.com/7Wn6fKH.jpg

[Bigsham]

Main reason is they only want them where they have cameras because people are shipping contraban and you can anonymously print postage and netstamps

has nothing to do with politics

[Baler]

I'm getting flashbacks to 2016 when left news networks refused to admit trump polled ahead of Hillary until the bitter end. Disillusioning it's viewers and generating outcry due to false information.

[Bigsham]

i dont see why they even have these polls when they are only asking some people?

No one is asking me about donalds upcoming sweeping victory

nasdaq 11k anyone?

[imperiouskitten]

Oh yeah the polls are a complete joke.

How 'bout that "convention"? :o

[Woke Locc]

Oh yeah the polls are a complete joke.

How 'bout that "convention"? :o

Looked like a bunch of taped segments

I saw a Bernie though ☺️

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/uELSY3S.gif

civil war! civil war! civil war!

[imperiouskitten]

i got rejected by a DISGUSTING MAN TRANNY and i literally never even tried opening myself to one of the cis WHORES because i am SO SCARED. end this world

ps, small point, trans people were not mentioned nor represented at all in the "DNC" last night even in the big long inclusive lists of minorities we support. most of the screen time was taken up by republicans Chris Christie and John Kasich (not joking). I heard a hologram Reagan appeared too, but I can't tell whether that was parody or not -- I didn't see the hologram Reagan, personally. Michelle Obama said "go low, go high" at least twelve times though. She is far less neotenous than I and her shoulders are twice as broad; if she's really not trans herself then it's a shame those nasty ugly corporate lawyer genes got passed on so profligately.

[douglas1999]

Joe bidon is an old grandpa man; he probably smells like dust or powder. Change my mind.

[Bigsham]

Lot of hostility in this BRAND NEW POSTER

Who are you kitten?

And yea democrats need a trans candidate, pete buttie was gay but coming out of the closet too early ruined him

[imperiouskitten]

It's me! youuu know, the girl who's careful to wear long pants, cause she gets swarmed in the Fred Meyer checkout if they see her legs. tuck or no.

[Woke Locc]

Lot of hostility in this BRAND NEW POSTER

Who are you kitten?

And yea democrats need a trans candidate, pete buttie was gay but coming out of the closet too early ruined him

Filbus

[BlackBellamy]

Trump has bought out the Youtube masthead for the next four days. Lol. Every time some Democrat goes to https://www.youtube.com/ the Orange Man will be telling them how much they suck.

https://imgur.com/9fS5VRb.jpg

[imperiouskitten]

would you like hints on how to block ads noob?

[douglas1999]

We have tremendous ads, some say the best ads

[BlackBellamy]

would you like hints on how to block ads noob?

Why would I steal content? I'm not a thief.

[imperiouskitten]

Why would I steal content? I'm not a thief.

Oh I see. I understand. Personally I am not a thief, I am more of an "exempted observer", sort of like the Architect character from The Matricks except total bottom.

[Lune]

Why would I steal content? I'm not a thief.

You're only getting those ads because google knows how likely you are to click and engage with Trump stuff.

When I literally physically turn on my ads (lol), I get different completely non-political stuff.

Also, it's not stealing content. You have every right not to look at a billboard you pass on the freeway. Youtube sent an encoded ad to my computer. I simply told my browser to look away. Even so, if that ad had shown up, I'd have never noticed it anyway. My big throbbing posterior parietal visual association area literally filters advertising out of my consciousness.

[Castle2.0]

Using a VPN and Chrome incognito mode, I got the ad, so I don't think it's based on any targeting... unless people in Chrome incognito using the same VPN IP watch a lot of conservative stuff...

Having said that... the only reason I wen't incognito in Chrome is because my adblocker blocks all this crap on my normal Chrome.

Banner ads are so 90s. For boomers & soccer moms who don't adblock, this is a great move.

[Jimjam]

I love in The Simpsons where Homer insists on the family watching the adverts as not to do so would be “Stealing Television”. The shot then goes through the window to show they have an illegal cable stealing from their neighbour’s connection.

It raises a question; why are legitimate subscribers paying to watch advertisements?

[Snortles Chortles]

would you like hints on how to block ads noob?

[Patriam1066]

You're only getting those ads because google knows how likely you are to click and engage with Trump stuff.

When I literally physically turn on my ads (lol), I get different completely non-political stuff.

Also, it's not stealing content. You have every right not to look at a billboard you pass on the freeway. Youtube sent an encoded ad to my computer. I simply told my browser to look away. Even so, if that ad had shown up, I'd have never noticed it anyway. My big throbbing posterior parietal visual association area literally filters advertising out of my consciousness.

Literally

[BlackBellamy]

It raises a question; why are legitimate subscribers paying to watch advertisements?

I'm not sure where the mindset comes from that you shouldn't receive any advertisements if you pay for access to a service. Like you buy a ticket to a game, you're not outraged because there's a Coca-Cola banner staring at you from above the stands. When you go to a doctor's office the have ads for skin creams on the walls in the waiting room, but yet you're essentially paying $45 to sit there and you don't even care. But somehow media is different. And yet you're just paying for access to service just like anywhere. It must be a holdover from when cable first started out, like look I have The Home Box Office and there's no ads! Oh wow!

The thing is subscriber fees don't even come close to covering costs. If you cut out the advertising then the subscriber fees would go through the roof. Where I work we have like 150 sites and get our revenue from advertising, from selling data, from selling merch, and from subscriber fees. If any of the former were take away, the latter would double or triple.

By the way, speaking of adblockers, we know who and how many and when and we can totally get around those users. We have anti ad-block tech that works 100%. We can serve you ads around your adblocker if we chose to. Or we can block your access. We don't choose to though. We monetize the adblock people by collecting data on them and selling that information to people who are interested in how many people use adblockers and what kind and whatever other PI we can gather. When you have a 150 websites and millions and millions of pageviews a month that information becomes valuable because of the scale. We also convert adblock people to paying customers by serving them special pages that basically say hey if you turn off your adblocker you can access this and that content, and also if you pay $5 you can get that content and also no ads, which works with enough of a percentage of people that it makes financial sense for us to do so. When someone comes to our sites with an adblocker, we lose money on the ads but we make it up somewhat by selling that visitor info to someone.

Don't even get me started on us being able to pay the adblocker people to have them designate our ads as safe or allowable or whatever. The adblocker companies figured out real quick that they can monetize their users just like any other cattle. When you install some adblocker app, you're just providing someone with a way to gather more info on you. I mean yeah, you're also getting less ads so that's worth it for most people.

[Woke Locc]

The thing is subscriber fees don't even come close to covering costs. If you cut out the advertising then the subscriber fees would go through the roof.

Here's the beef.

[PieOats]

Everything should be free except manuel labor.

Change my mind.

[zodium]

I'm not sure where the mindset comes from that you shouldn't receive any advertisements if you pay for access to a service. Like you buy a ticket to a game, you're not outraged because there's a Coca-Cola banner staring at you from above the stands. When you go to a doctor's office the have ads for skin creams on the walls in the waiting room, but yet you're essentially paying $45 to sit there and you don't even care. But somehow media is different. And yet you're just paying for access to service just like anywhere. It must be a holdover from when cable first started out, like look I have The Home Box Office and there's no ads! Oh wow!

The thing is subscriber fees don't even come close to covering costs. If you cut out the advertising then the subscriber fees would go through the roof. Where I work we have like 150 sites and get our revenue from advertising, from selling data, from selling merch, and from subscriber fees. If any of the former were take away, the latter would double or triple.

By the way, speaking of adblockers, we know who and how many and when and we can totally get around those users. We have anti ad-block tech that works 100%. We can serve you ads around your adblocker if we chose to. Or we can block your access. We don't choose to though. We monetize the adblock people by collecting data on them and selling that information to people who are interested in how many people use adblockers and what kind and whatever other PI we can gather. When you have a 150 websites and millions and millions of pageviews a month that information becomes valuable because of the scale. We also convert adblock people to paying customers by serving them special pages that basically say hey if you turn off your adblocker you can access this and that content, and also if you pay $5 you can get that content and also no ads, which works with enough of a percentage of people that it makes financial sense for us to do so. When someone comes to our sites with an adblocker, we lose money on the ads but we make it up somewhat by selling that visitor info to someone.

Don't even get me started on us being able to pay the adblocker people to have them designate our ads as safe or allowable or whatever. The adblocker companies figured out real quick that they can monetize their users just like any other cattle. When you install some adblocker app, you're just providing someone with a way to gather more info on you. I mean yeah, you're also getting less ads so that's worth it for most people.

indeed. empire cannot survive except by subjugating more and more and more, until there is nothing left to subjugate. every moment, every atom, every calorie subjugated for the reproduction of empire. you will see empire. you will perceive empire. and you will act as empire commands. you have no right to be free of advertising anywhere, nor to be free from anything else, to do anything except what is useful to the reproduction of empire. not even the tiniest of free spaces, not one unconsumed moment can be permitted.

[BlackBellamy]

We serve warm empire every day because that's what the people want. You think we're forcing it down their throats? They lick the plate clean and ask for more. I know you think you know better and it's just a matter of educating the plebes but it's not. It's a matter of shooting them over and over until the ones that are left obey you out of fear. And as soon as you turn your back they'll stick a fork in it and bang on their plates cause they're hungry for more empire.

[Woke Locc]

Empire is when you offer loans to developing economies so they can trade with you

[zodium]

We serve warm empire every day because that's what the people want. You think we're forcing it down their throats? They lick the plate clean and ask for more. I know you think you know better and it's just a matter of educating the plebes but it's not. It's a matter of shooting them over and over until the ones that are left obey you out of fear. And as soon as you turn your back they'll stick a fork in it and bang on their plates cause they're hungry for more empire.

the assyrians thought much the same as you.

[Jimjam]

Snip

Ooh your rant just reminded me of the worst thing. TV channels that cut down scenes out of shows so they get more time to show advertisements. I remember once watching Scrubs and thinking ‘Hey, thats a callback gag except the part they are calling back to didn’t actually happen...’

I think that was the point when I was done with television.

[BlackBellamy]

the assyrians thought much the same as you.

the assyrians started thinking (as a people) around 2600BC but it took about 300 years to get that proper akkadian empire thinking and that empire thinking lasted until maybe 600BC when they finally ceased to have independent political thoughts, although as a people they continued to think for many centuries after.

i guess im on the right track. if i want to provide 17 centuries of stability for my children and their descendants i guess thinking like an assyrian can be the way to go.

marxism gave it a go, i think soviet russia lasted 74 years
i know china is still at it, but they still need 3 more years to pull even
not sure they can make it
maybe there's some breaking point after three generations of bullshit

[imperiouskitten]

the assyrians started thinking (as a people) around 2600BC but it took about 300 years to get that proper akkadian empire thinking and that empire thinking lasted until maybe 600BC when they finally ceased to have independent political thoughts, although as a people they continued to think for many centuries after.

i guess im on the right track. if i want to provide 17 centuries of stability for my children and their descendants i guess thinking like an assyrian can be the way to go.

marxism gave it a go, i think soviet russia lasted 74 years
i know china is still at it, but they still need 3 more years to pull even
not sure they can make it
maybe there's some breaking point after three generations of bullshit

capped now you can't delete :) very dumb!

Akkadians lived communally and tribally; much more comparable to militant communism than the philosophy of limp-dicked, anti-family consumptive compulsion which has turnt us into a short-lived, miserable case study in empire even despite having the easiest scenario of domination in world history. Don't look to Zodium for too many answers; they're trying in futility to reconcile pacifism with reality. They're much smarter than you are tho!

Rome spent more on social programs than we do!

[douglas1999]

capped now you can't delete :) very dumb!

Akkadians lived communally and tribally; much more comparable to militant communism than the philosophy of limp-dicked, anti-family consumptive compulsion which has turnt us into a short-lived, miserable case study in empire even despite having the easiest scenario of domination in world history. Don't look to Zodium for too many answers; they're trying in futility to reconcile pacifism with reality. They're much smarter than you are tho!

Rome spent more on social programs than we do!

Another excellent rage against the machine song

[Bigsham]

Im joe biden and i forgot what i was gonna say

[Baler]

Im joe biden and i forgot what i was gonna say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjjN_g2J7_Y

it never gets old

"COMMON MAN" - Biden 2020

[zodium]

the assyrians started thinking (as a people) around 2600BC but it took about 300 years to get that proper akkadian empire thinking and that empire thinking lasted until maybe 600BC when they finally ceased to have independent political thoughts, although as a people they continued to think for many centuries after.

i guess im on the right track. if i want to provide 17 centuries of stability for my children and their descendants i guess thinking like an assyrian can be the way to go.

around. about. maybe. you guess. shall I entertain the notion that you would build the futures of your children and their descendants for the next seventeen centuries on concepts riddled with doubt even to your own mind? you play with this knowledge like a newborn child, blindly suckling on now this, now that, maneuvering it into your mouth with only the greatest of difficulties and to little avail.

empire is not for children, but for empire. even as you feign and play at embracing the darkness, like imperiouskitten, you lay bare your wish that I have an answer. a light to banish the dark. yet the dark seems to you so overwhelmingly black that you do not truly believe such a light exists, or even can exist. and so it is closed to you, until you allow yourself to have faith.

you will see it does not matter that joe biden is a senile rapist. it does not even matter if he is alive. when the living person has no individuality, a corpse may just as well take the throne.

[Woke Locc]

around. about. maybe. you guess. shall I entertain the notion that you would build the futures of your children and their descendants for the next seventeen centuries on concepts riddled with doubt even to your own mind? you play with this knowledge like a newborn child, blindly suckling on now this, now that, maneuvering it into your mouth with only the greatest of difficulties and to little avail.

empire is not for children, but for empire. even as you feign and play at embracing the darkness, like imperiouskitten, you lay bare your wish that I have an answer. a light to banish the dark. yet the dark seems to you so overwhelmingly black that you do not truly believe such a light exists, or even can exist. and so it is closed to you, until you allow yourself to have faith.

you will see it does not matter that joe biden is a senile rapist. it does not even matter if he is alive. when the living person has no individuality, a corpse may just as well take the throne.

Vroom vroom? :rolleyes:

[imperiouskitten]

"Cum on man." -Grand Imperator Joe Biden

[Baler]

Just wanted to say I refuse to vote in this vile polls

[BarnabusCollins]

There was no Flight 77

[zodium]

"Cum on man." -Grand Imperator Joe Biden

[BarnabusCollins]

"Our goal is to create a safe and engaging place for users to connect over interests and passions. In order to improve our community experience, we are temporarily suspending article commenting." In other words, public free speech was killing their lying ass stories.

[kjs86z]

https://youtu.be/KJ3H68W5Em8

[kjs86z]

https://i.imgur.com/redCLi9.jpg

[BarnabusCollins]

Dementia Joe

[Jimjam]

Is he eating her brains?

[Bigsham]

nice new avatar !

beats the kamala one

[zodium]

Is he eating her brains?

powerful.

[BlackBellamy]

If the Republican 'convention' is as boring and shitty as the Democrat one, I will be voting for Biden.

I mean of course I will be voting for Biden because New Jersey is going mail-in ballot and that's what my vote will say regardless. (https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/paterson-new-jersey-city-council-voter-fraud/index.html)

[BlackBellamy]

when you hire illiterate 20-year old graphic designers

https://imgur.com/SKPplUH.jpg

(and don't bother with copy editors in the first place)

[BlackBellamy]

2016:

https://imgur.com/urb1lND.jpg

2020:

https://imgur.com/iEimCkQ.jpg

What do you guys think? Chin job for Biden or he just lose some weight, fat?

(I mean look at that thing, it's touching his tie knot!)

[Jimjam]

Not just the chin but the posture and the skin.

Looks like he had some of those whore moans.

Really helps a gentleman after a certain age. And fotochop.

[PieOats]

https://i.imgur.com/redCLi9.jpg

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/8VsI7Bc.gif

[Trexller]

John Cusack rips DNC night 4 as 'celebrity-filled reality TV convention': 'It's all showbiz'

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/john-cusack-rips-dnc-celebrity-filled-reality-tv-convention-showbiz

[Jimjam]

https://i.imgur.com/8VsI7Bc.gif

I don’t get it. Please explain to my zombie brain.

[zodium]

keep gazing into the abyss

[Jimjam]

I’m forrin, I need more to go on. I recognise CNN as a brand of News/media in the states. I know Bidet is the name of one of the two Big Party candidates for a forthcoming election.

I don’t know who the presenter is, nor why this lady identifying as Steph has a beard. I do know the presenter shouldn’t be laughing at this individual’s gender confusion in 2020 though. That doesn’t Curry any favour.

Who is Steph Curry and why is the presenter laughing?

[kjs86z]

Not just the chin but the posture and the skin.

Looks like he had some of those whore moans.

Really helps a gentleman after a certain age. And fotochop.

prob took a few hits off the adrenochrome bong

[zodium]

I’m forrin, I need more to go on. I recognise CNN as a brand of News/media in the states. I know Bidet is the name of one of the two Big Party candidates for a forthcoming election.

I don’t know who the presenter is, nor why this lady identifying as Steph has a beard. I do know the presenter shouldn’t be laughing at this individual’s gender confusion in 2020 though. That doesn’t Curry any favour.

Who is Steph Curry and why is the presenter laughing?

cory booker is very excited for sports guy and then not at all excited for joe biden, on the dnc stream.

[Jimjam]

Oh Stephanie is a sports person? I assumed they may have been another politician or political commentator. Is that wrong?

[Woke Locc]

GOP Will Not Write a 2020 Platform, Pledges Undying Trump Support Instead (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/republican-national-committee-2020-platform-trump.html)

The party has announced it will forego a platform altogether. In lieu of a document attempting to define the party’s beliefs and priorities, the RNC simply states that it agrees with everything Trump has done and will do:

[Rader]

GOP Will Not Write a 2020 Platform, Pledges Undying Trump Support Instead (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/republican-national-committee-2020-platform-trump.html)

Sounds good to me. Anything other than unswerving devotion to that F tard Biden is a winner position

[Woke Locc]

Sounds good to me. Anything other than unswerving devotion to that F tard Biden is a winner position

The Democratic Party platform adopted at last week’s nominating convention dropped any reference to the U.S. policy of recognizing a single China in reference to unofficial American ally Taiwan. (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/23/democratic-party-platform-drops-one-china-language/)

[BlackBellamy]

The Democratic Party platform adopted at last week’s nominating convention dropped any reference to the U.S. policy of recognizing a single China in reference to unofficial American ally Taiwan. (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/23/democratic-party-platform-drops-one-china-language/)

Wow if only Trump took a lead from the brave Democrat platform and stopped licking China's asshole clean every single day.

[Dulu]

If a man of Joe Biden's mental state were a contestant on a daytime gameshow, like Wheel of Fortune, or Price is Right, we'd all think "Wow, this is sad... poor guy. Hopefully he doesn't embarrass himself too hard on TV."

But somehow it's OK to run this guy as a Presidential candidate?

[Blingy]

Wow if only Trump took a lead from the brave Democrat platform and stopped licking China's asshole clean every single day.

I must have missed something. From what I've been aware of Trump has been telling China FU AH. What changed and when?

[Jimjam]

If a man of Joe Biden's mental state were a contestant on a daytime gameshow, like Wheel of Fortune, or Price is Right, we'd all think "Wow, this is sad... poor guy. Hopefully he doesn't embarrass himself too hard on TV."

But somehow it's OK to run this guy as a Presidential candidate?

Think of how easily older folks fall for sales pitches for unneeded extortionate windows,doors,insulation,rennovations,techsupport, lotteries,etc.

Consider the insidious tendrils corporate America has delved into the political system.

They’ve managed to install a septuagenarian as the hand on the wallet to make extorting money from the government even easier.

I guarantee if Bidet wins then all federal buildings will have some ‘new’ outdated double glazing installed at ‘very good’ prices...

[BlackBellamy]

I must have missed something. From what I've been aware of Trump has been telling China FU AH. What changed and when?

I'm being sarcastic. The DNC took their little step with Taiwan detailed above. Meanwhile Trump has been shitting on China every single day. Look we're tough on China too this isn't.

Chi-nah!

[Woke Locc]

I'm being sarcastic. The DNC took their little step with Taiwan detailed above. Meanwhile Trump has been shitting on China every single day. Look we're tough on China too this isn't.

Chi-nah!

Shortly after his inauguration, President Trump withdrew the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. (https://www.brookings.edu/blog/unpacked/2017/03/24/trump-withdrawing-from-the-trans-pacific-partnership/)

[kjs86z]

If a man of Joe Biden's mental state were a contestant on a daytime gameshow, like Wheel of Fortune, or Price is Right, we'd all think "Wow, this is sad... poor guy. Hopefully he doesn't embarrass himself too hard on TV."

But somehow it's OK to run this guy as a Presidential candidate?

Just think of how dumb the average person is....and then remember half the people are dumber than they are.

[Trexller]

Shortly after his inauguration, President Trump withdrew the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. (https://www.brookings.edu/blog/unpacked/2017/03/24/trump-withdrawing-from-the-trans-pacific-partnership/)

From that Link:

The TPP was negotiated under former President Barack Obama, but never ratified by Congress.

[Patriam1066]

Wow if only Trump took a lead from the brave Democrat platform and stopped licking China's asshole clean every single day.

That’s still a good step. We should give Japan nukes next

[Mead]

You guys keep bringing up Biden's mental state but the fact of the matter is every Democrat would literally vote for Biden in a coma over Trump. Nobody cares that he has dementia except Republicans

[Swish]

You guys keep bringing up Biden's mental state but the fact of the matter is every Democrat would literally vote for Biden in a coma over Trump. Nobody cares that he has dementia except Republicans

That's a serious problem with the mental health of some American voters. You've got 2 bad candidates but a lot would vote for a President with Alzheimers/dementia or worse if it meant not getting a Trump 2nd term. Biden would be the weakest leader in American politics for decades and he'll carry on sniffing kids, being led around by a handler so he doesn't wander off and doing other stupid stuff.

They shouldn't have fielded him, there had to have been a better choice.

If he is elected Jimmy Carter might get a reprieve :o

[Woke Locc]

That’s still a good step. We should give Japan nukes next

Democrats Endorse Nuclear Energy In Platform (https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertbryce/2020/08/23/after-48-years-democrats-endorse-nuclear-energy-in-platform/#568ec67b5829)

[Fame]

They shouldn't have fielded him, there had to have been a better choice.


Yang is the future. The robots are coming.

[solleks]

The Biden character is supposed to be an obvious pedophile. And the voter is supposed to validate the character despite their better judgement, that's how mind control work. They both work for the J let's be honest

[Bigsham]

If a man of Joe Biden's mental state were a contestant on a daytime gameshow, like Wheel of Fortune, or Price is Right, we'd all think "Wow, this is sad... poor guy. Hopefully he doesn't embarrass himself too hard on TV."

But somehow it's OK to run this guy as a Presidential candidate?

He was supposed to just run, all the dems just ran for glamour because they knew bernie would be the primary but he heart attacked and bounced and they were all like wait wut

Bet hilary wished she ran too she could have round 2


and still lose to donald

[Blingy]

I might just write in Neil deGrasse Tyson for president and Mike Rowe for VP.

[solleks]

Neil degrasse tyson is a worse fraud than biden and trump combined. Hes a moron

[Rader]

You guys keep bringing up Biden's mental state but the fact of the matter is every Democrat would literally vote for Biden in a coma over Trump. Nobody cares that he has dementia except Republicans

Is that supposed to be a compliment to Democrats? LOL