Green server seems to have too many players?

[ToastedBagel]

Granted it was prime time and a newbie zone, but it was so packed I could barely kill a single mob, I had to log off for the night.

People where camping the ENTRANCE to crushbone. Yes, a separate group from orc hill was camping a few spawns at the entrance, not the hill itself which also had a full group. That's how packed it was (CB was also packed to the brink with groups and solo players killing everything in sight.)

I have never seen that in classic (granted its been forever so I may have forgotten.) But I recall there only being a few hundred players usually online at a time not 1,000.

Is it a server restriction thing keeping everyone on one server or?

Does it open up at later levels?

Writing this without coffee excuse any bad writing.

[Izmael]

Runnyeye
Uguk
Befallen
Najena

I bet these zones had a million level-relevant mobs available for killing.

[ToastedBagel]

Runnyeye
Uguk
Befallen
Najena

I bet these zones had a million level-relevant mobs available for killing.

Green server has probably at least triple the amount as the average classic server.

Is it a server restriction thing keeping everyone on one server or?

Does it open up at later levels?

[kaev]

Granted it was prime time and a newbie zone, but it was so packed I could barely kill a single mob, I had to log off for the night.

People where camping the ENTRANCE to crushbone. Yes, a separate group from orc hill was camping a few spawns at the entrance, not the hill itself which also had a full group. That's how packed it was (CB was also packed to the brink with groups and solo players killing everything in sight.)

I have never seen that in classic (granted its been forever so I may have forgotten.) But I recall there only being a few hundred players usually online at a time not 1,000.

Is it a server restriction thing keeping everyone on one server or?

Does it open up at later levels?

Writing this without coffee excuse any bad writing.

Lol, happened all the time in classic pre-Kunark. I mostly played on Tunare server which routinely had over 1400 players at primetime which was a medium-high pop server, there were several that topped 1600 regularly. With LGuk & SolB camped to death (the running gag was that a L5 could safely run end-to-end in LGuk) people would make new chars and GFay/CB was a popular place. I played some on another server that showed primetime population 1200-ish, might've been Erollisi Marr, and found GFay similarly popular.

[Fammaden]

Consider blue.

[BlackBellamy]

Well if you joined a classic server when they were mature then yes of course the newbie zones would be empty in comparison with what you see here. But if you joined classic at roughly the same time that Green is in the timeline now, I think you would find your newbie zones here to be very tolerable.

Back when Sony/Verant still released server numbers, I was playing on Tallon Zek and it had 1200 people on, and the PvP servers were the lowest population ones of the bunch.

[Indecisive]

Crushbone is a madhouse and always has been. It's fairly easy, there's a lot of nostalgia tied to it for most of us, and it's got some decent drops/quests. If you go there during primetime, you're gonna have a bad time.

Same goes for the rest of the popular dozens. If you want to exp comfortably, try to find a group of like-minded players and head off the beaten path.

[cd288]

Granted it was prime time and a newbie zone, but it was so packed I could barely kill a single mob, I had to log off for the night.

People where camping the ENTRANCE to crushbone. Yes, a separate group from orc hill was camping a few spawns at the entrance, not the hill itself which also had a full group. That's how packed it was (CB was also packed to the brink with groups and solo players killing everything in sight.)

I have never seen that in classic (granted its been forever so I may have forgotten.) But I recall there only being a few hundred players usually online at a time not 1,000.

Is it a server restriction thing keeping everyone on one server or?

Does it open up at later levels?

Writing this without coffee excuse any bad writing.

Couple of things. As Black Bellamy noted in his reply, if you joined EQ later on (say, for example, when Luclin was out or something like that), then yes seeing people camping Orc Hill and the entrance to CB would be uncommon. But seeing people doing that on most servers through Velious was very common (not only because they are decent camps in general for lower level players in the area, but because you could sell those belts and pads for plat or use them yourself for bonus EXP). CB itself has always been a very populated zone (even through Luclin) because of those reasons in addition to it being a fun dungeon, very convenient (Kelethin right next to it for banking/vendoring, and all of GFay counts as a city so melees can bind right at CB ZL if they want), and relatively safe (ZL isn't very far from anywhere you are in CB). Keep it in mind that you're discussing probably the most popular lower level dungeon in the game; by contrast, check out the population levels in dungeons like Befallen and Blackburrow...they are empty by comparison.

By the time Kunark hit, many servers ranged from 1,800-2,100 or so players at primetime. Green is well below that to my knowledge.

GFay itself can be a slightly tough newbie zone at times in the sense that if you have a few people running around killing mobs near the various lifts, you have to venture out into the foggy darkness to find more mobs to kill since they're wandering over a large area. Other newbie zones are much more condensed in this regard and therefore a few other newbies being in the area doesn't seem like overcrowded in the sense that there are still a lot of mobs you don't have to run very far to find.

[TripSin]

But I recall there only being a few hundred players usually online at a time not 1,000.



Classic servers definitely had more than "just a few hundred players." Overcrowding was a thing. 1.5kish players was the norm. Servers could get as high as 2k at times.

[Chinetter]

I've been on the Green server for most of a year now, have started two different chars on Faydwer. The level of crowding in CB and GF has thus far seemed very consistent with my memories of 20 years ago. As has, in the mid levels, Unrest.

If you need a good low-levels zone that's a lot less crowded, zone into Butcherblock. It is generally much less populated on Green today than it was back in the Classic live era.

Another good newbie zone that's generally uncrowded on Green is Steamfont. (You have to pass through LFay to get there but not for long and not a hazardous part of LFay.)

[Castle2.0]

Gotta cast your vote. See my signature.

[cd288]

I've been on the Green server for most of a year now, have started two different chars on Faydwer. The level of crowding in CB and GF has thus far seemed very consistent with my memories of 20 years ago. As has, in the mid levels, Unrest.

If you need a good low-levels zone that's a lot less crowded, zone into Butcherblock. It is generally much less populated on Green today than it was back in the Classic live era.

Another good newbie zone that's generally uncrowded on Green is Steamfont. (You have to pass through LFay to get there but not for long and not a hazardous part of LFay.)

I'd also add that every newbie zone is pretty much not crowded generally. I've seen some issues with low level bards trying to swarm kite half the yard but other than that I have not run into issues leveling up a lowbie alt in any of the newbie areas.

[Nirgon]

saw this thread, rustled beta clinger detected

[kaev]

Nirgon, I cannot fathom why they haven't banished you to posting only in RnF and the red forums yet. Ph well, ignore still works...

[Bigsham]

try aradune when zones hit too high population another one spawns !

cool huh

[skyfoxnz85]

Couple of things. As Black Bellamy noted in his reply, if you joined EQ later on (say, for example, when Luclin was out or something like that), then yes seeing people camping Orc Hill and the entrance to CB would be uncommon. But seeing people doing that on most servers through Velious was very common (not only because they are decent camps in general for lower level players in the area, but because you could sell those belts and pads for plat or use them yourself for bonus EXP). CB itself has always been a very populated zone (even through Luclin) because of those reasons in addition to it being a fun dungeon, very convenient (Kelethin right next to it for banking/vendoring, and all of GFay counts as a city so melees can bind right at CB ZL if they want), and relatively safe (ZL isn't very far from anywhere you are in CB). Keep it in mind that you're discussing probably the most popular lower level dungeon in the game; by contrast, check out the population levels in dungeons like Befallen and Blackburrow...they are empty by comparison.

By the time Kunark hit, many servers ranged from 1,800-2,100 or so players at primetime. Green is well below that to my knowledge.

GFay itself can be a slightly tough newbie zone at times in the sense that if you have a few people running around killing mobs near the various lifts, you have to venture out into the foggy darkness to find more mobs to kill since they're wandering over a large area. Other newbie zones are much more condensed in this regard and therefore a few other newbies being in the area doesn't seem like overcrowded in the sense that there are still a lot of mobs you don't have to run very far to find.

I played between Kunark and Plane of Power era. Ever since the luclin launced I hardly see any people in classic zone. Not even the bandit sister camp in Lfay because there was a newbie zone that you can breeze through from level 1 to 40+ in a single zone. (with bit of PL from high level buffs) i think it was Echo Cavern.

[kaev]

Yes, Luclin destroyed the old world newb zones. But the Luclin zone that did it was Paludal, tons of easy and easy to pull mobs with a high ZEM

[skyfoxnz85]

Yes, Luclin destroyed the old world newb zones. But the Luclin zone that did it was Paludal, tons of easy and easy to pull mobs with a high ZEM

Ahh that's right. i forgot it has been frigging almost 20 years lol. it was PALUDAL CAVERNS. Considering mob level was 5-25 i guess the max level you can get exp is 30 :p

[peterpal]

I remember my server on live had even a big gfay market where many people hung out all the time like ec tunnel

[skyfoxnz85]

I remember my server on live had even a big gfay market where many people hung out all the time like ec tunnel
Yeah I also remember that! Though majority of players parked their toon in Bazzar or KC.

[Waedawen]

It's not that green has too many players. It's that the average noob is so fucking incredibly pussy and risk-averse that no one is willing to go out on a limb and do anything dangerous and adventure

And also tying into "average noob" thing, a team of 6 people, unless they have someone who knows what they're doing, is probably going to be so incredibly inexperienced and nooby that it ends up poorly for them, anyways.

Everyone shuffles in to places like Crushbone and Unrest and Upper Guk and sit there afk waiting until they get a group instead of 1) making one themselves or 2) going somewhere else.

It's embarrassing.

[cd288]

It’s also that Green isn’t crowded at all anymore. It’s like 1k people for brief periods at prime time lol

[Tunabros]

Back on blue it had more players on green before green was a thing
It only feels like there is more players because we are all cramped together leveling on antonnica and faydark
on blue we have velious and kunark to level so there is more diverse leveling
on green everyone has the same ideas to level at spots so we would have something crazy like 40 people in unrest or something like that

[zodium]

green doesn't have too many players, vanilla just doesn't have enough content for more than like a hundred level 50s, let alone the amount of levels 50s under the hyper-solo-farming-oriented meta that prevails on p99.

[Coridan]

I think the newbie zone issue is that some are just straight up better than others. If kobolds in Steamfont had something like the kobold molars of warrens people could spread from gray to there as well.