How illegal is an illegal UI?

[RecondoJoe]

In my honest opinion it should be an automatic death sentence.

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/lLTKUck.gif

[sydbarrett25]

https://i.imgur.com/lLTKUck.gif

Agree 100%. Usually its pretty iffy with mr snortles but this is a 100% agreement of terms here.

[Woke Locc]

Why is the UI even illegal?

Not trolling, just stupid :)

[RecondoJoe]

Why is the UI even illegal?

Not trolling, just stupid :)

Are you being sarcastic? Do you have any idea how many people this thing could hurt?

[Woke Locc]

Are you being sarcastic? Do you have any idea how many people this thing could hurt?

What's sarcastic?

[ClephNote]

You’d have to ask Rogean. Since he purposefully disabled custom UIs on Green. The goal is to create classic EQ, custom UIs, dot tick messages, pet windows, etc., ain’t Classic.

It’s illegal but maybe it’s jaywalking, maybe it’s premeditated quadruple homicide, maybe it’s Maybelline. Only he knows.

[kaizersoze]

For a long time the ST modified files were deemed "perfectly acceptable" and then they threw the switch and raid banned Riot, AG, and Freedom / Ghxst. Rogean has taken a pretty clear stance that modifying the files isnt something he wants done if it gives you any edge.

[Jerri]

You’d have to ask Rogean. Since he purposefully disabled custom UIs on Green. The goal is to create classic EQ, custom UIs, dot tick messages, pet windows, etc., ain’t Classic.

So OBS/fraps showing illegal custom UI's on green should be reported/petitioned then I guess is what you're saying?

[Jibartik]

Train them and say what are you gonna do call the cops?

[Trexller]

So OBS/fraps showing illegal custom UI's on green should be reported/petitioned then I guess is what you're saying?

That would be like 8 years ago on blue when the entire server was using macroquest so they deleted 10% of our xp and stripped us all of coin

[Zekayy]

What server are you referring too cause im using duxa on blue

[Baler]

OP just wants to stir the pot and cause drama.

Modified UI's on green are not illegal, it's client side and affects no one else.

See to programs like GINA or Zlizeqmap which read the log file. I'd argue these are even more powerful tools than a custom UI.

[Topgunben]

In my honest opinion it should be an automatic death sentence.

I seem to remember using the Rustle UI and having an extra bagslot. Maybe I dreamt that up?

[Domo]

maybe it depends whos using it?

[Woke Locc]

See to programs like GINA or Zlizeqmap which read the log file. I'd argue these are even more powerful tools than a custom UI.

For real. GINA is much, much worse for the classic experience than having multiple chat windows.

Ban GINA

[Trexller]

Don't ask, Don't tell

Best policy ever devised.

[Swish]

"There's not enough rules on P99" -- no matter how many they add.

[fuckshit22]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359465

makes all your bags 10 slot bags, it looks great too.

[fuckshit22]

i wonder what else you could trick this stupid ancient game into doing for you to gain a "competitive" advantage? maybe even change some textures on particular items to know when it's being held by a mob? all kinds of things can be done without back end detection, and requires someone with an axe to grind to catch you in the act. i hope there's enough axes up there.

[Tethler]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359465

makes all your bags 10 slot bags, it looks great too.

It says right in the OP that they appear to be 10 slot, but if the bag is smaller than 10, any items put in the non-existent slot will go to your cursor. Or is there some other bug going on? I'll admit I didn't read the entire thread, just the first page.

[RecondoJoe]

i wonder what else you could trick this stupid ancient game into doing for you to gain a "competitive" advantage? maybe even change some textures on particular items to know when it's being held by a mob? all kinds of things can be done without back end detection, and requires someone with an axe to grind to catch you in the act. i hope there's enough axes up there.

Doesn’t it track multiple spawn timers at one time?

[rkingsmith]

You’d have to ask Rogean. Since he purposefully disabled custom UIs on Green. The goal is to create classic EQ, custom UIs, dot tick messages, pet windows, etc., ain’t Classic.

It’s illegal but maybe it’s jaywalking, maybe it’s premeditated quadruple homicide, maybe it’s Maybelline. Only he knows.

List camps, and local server rules (enforced by GMs) of exiting a raid zone on a mob and racing into a zone and training the hell out of everything was not part of classic EQ either.

If they really wanted the classic experience, they would lock in 1st person view and build in random packet lags and randomly disconnect you every few hours like real dial up did ....

[Jimjam]

What even is an illegal UI? Are people using Epstein Party Island scroll bars?

[RecondoJoe]

What even is an illegal UI? Are people using Epstein Party Island scroll bars?

I'm not sure to be quite honest, but I think any UI that has the chance at putting someone's life or well being at serious risk.

[ClephNote]

ITT: lots of people using an illegal UI and trying to soften the inevitable ban hammer.

[Nirgon]

time for a ban wave

[ClephNote]

So OBS/fraps showing illegal custom UI's on green should be reported/petitioned then I guess is what you're saying?

In all seriousness, at the very least we should probably get official clarification. It’s it’s legal, I wanna use one!

GINA is blessed, maybe this will be too.

[RecondoJoe]

In all seriousness, at the very least we should probably get official clarification. It’s it’s legal, I wanna use one!

GINA is blessed, maybe this will be too.

I just started using GINA yesterday. I was thinking about how awesome it is, and then I realized everything it does... is actually done automatically in modern MMOs. It's crazy how much a difference something like an automated timer can make in your gameplay.

[Bardp1999]

If you are dumb enough to petition yourself you should at the very least be banned a week and told to remove it

[ClephNote]

If you are dumb enough to petition yourself you should at the very least be banned a week and told to remove it

Hopeful timeline for the immediate future.

Some poor soul uses OBS for self defense.

They cheat and try to justify it by sending fraps showcasing your illegal UI.

You share to your guild officers.

They review.

Everyone approves.

It’s submitted for official UN review.

GMs ban all accomplices.

Cheaters and evil PR propaganda are removed from the game.

They all get jobs in fast food.

Harmony is achieved on Green.

[RecondoJoe]

Hopeful timeline for the immediate future.

Some poor soul uses OBS for self defense.

They cheat and try to justify it by sending fraps showcasing your illegal UI.

You share to your guild officers.

They review.

Everyone approves.

It’s submitted for official UN review.

GMs ban all accomplices.

Cheaters and evil PR propaganda are removed from the game.

They all get jobs in fast food.

Harmony is achieved on Green.

+1 anyone who is grouped with someone who is illegally using an illegal UI should be given the electric chair, no questions asked!

[ClephNote]

Nah, but all the people in the screenshot shared in UN of Kingdom’s Discord where the DL instructions for illegal UI were outlined? They should be perma banned.

Your trolling is weird, Jeptha. Slow, passive aggressive set ups that appeal to the court of public opinion, but ultimately don’t go anywhere and only people that agree with you agree on. It’s weird. You’re weird.

And if you aren’t Jeptha, RecondoJoe, you should really meet him. You’re soul mates.

[Neno]

There was a custom UI that existed here for years that allowed you to store items in "ghost slots" making them 100% weightless and keeping your bags empty. Fixed after I reported it but there are probably a lot of things you can do that haven't been found yet or go unreported.

[fuckshit22]

It says right in the OP that they appear to be 10 slot, but if the bag is smaller than 10, any items put in the non-existent slot will go to your cursor. Or is there some other bug going on? I'll admit I didn't read the entire thread, just the first page.

they go on your "cursor" nudge nudge wink wink, but don't actually appear on your cursor so you are actually free to manipulate other items while it is in that "cursor" slot, and you get 2 "cursor" slots per bag. sorry for quotations idk how this game really works but this is a great ui.

[fuckshit22]

they go on your "cursor" nudge nudge wink wink, but don't actually appear on your cursor so you are actually free to manipulate other items while it is in that "cursor" slot, and you get 2 "cursor" slots per bag. sorry for quotations idk how this game really works but this is a great ui.

not 2 slots per bag, as many cursor slots as it takes to reach 10 slots, per bag.

[Lostfaction]

Customized ui doesn’t add extra hot bars or create any advantages. Client side preference. Let them live their classic. If you think there weren’t any customized ui’s during classic/kunark you must have been 12 years old playing Paws in Typing Town and screaming when mom made a phone call and caused you to LD at Orc 1.

[Swish]

If you think there weren’t any customized ui’s during classic/kunark you must have been 12 years old playing Paws in Typing Town and screaming when mom made a phone call and caused you to LD at Orc 1.

What were the better known ones then?

[Plaguu~]

Nah, but all the people in the screenshot shared in UN of Kingdom’s Discord where the DL instructions for illegal UI were outlined? They should be perma banned.

lmao perma ban for UI. I bet you think the Tundrajack exp exploit Seal Team was caught doing should've been just a slap on the wrist. Oh wait it was.

[Jibartik]

What were the better known ones then?

There wasnt lol This guy is like thinking 2010 was classic/kunark

[fuckshit22]

Customized ui doesn’t add extra hot bars or create any advantages. Client side preference. Let them live their classic. If you think there weren’t any customized ui’s during classic/kunark you must have been 12 years old playing Paws in Typing Town and screaming when mom made a phone call and caused you to LD at Orc 1.

that was me. mom get off the phone!:mad:

[Jimjam]

that was me. mom get off the phone!:mad:

#metoo

Was soloing sirens (in oot, not the hardcore ones in SG or even KK) on my barby shaman. Didn't even know about pressing f10 to get out of the charactersheet UI.

[Jimjam]

^also died every 2 hours because that was my line's hardcoded time to disconnect and I didn't know how to set a timer to warn me the time was nearly up.

[Daldaen]

Is there a screenshot of this alleged illegal UI somewhere? I am curious what sort of UI players are using on green that is considered illegal.

[Trexller]

Didn't even know about pressing f10 to get out of the charactersheet UI.

Back in 2000 when i started, I played for months and months with that character sheet UI. I vividly remember accidentally hitting F10 and my mind was BLOWN.

[Jibartik]

Is there a screenshot of this alleged illegal UI somewhere? I am curious what sort of UI players are using on green that is considered illegal.

Apparently some folks figured out how to work around the lock and are using any UI they please. (https://youtu.be/fZMoB6ms2mE?t=145)

Time to administer some fatal beatings :D

[Daldaen]

They should permanently ban anyone who is hacking to avoid classic for sure in that case.

[Waedawen]

That would be like 8 years ago on blue when the entire server was using macroquest so they deleted 10% of our xp and stripped us all of coin

10%? are you fucking retarded or just lying?
I got deleveled from level 60 to level 53 for ShowEQ. And so did... 500? other people it was the reckoning and we all knew it was coming and everyone laughed about it