This possible eventually for green? Or nah?

[Spineripper]

Old school names/format, no item links, and have to type out all stats etc. Just genuine 99 experience :D

At first I thought maybe Titanium client is too new? But then I see they were able to remove pet windows, maps etc. I don't know what client EQClassic uses but this looks very nice. Truely reminds me of the days of old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUvIHXfpW_Y

[Trexller]

AFAIK:

item links are so hard coded into the game that its nearly impossible to take out. They would have to go through every single items "code number" and change stuff by hand. That is a monumental task.

So would anyone actually prefer the item links removed? Imagine the massive increase in auction spam as people list items with their full stats. Or the asinine hassle of looking through peoples bags in the trade window as your method of shopping. Or trying to get through raid loot.

Personally i can be a classic EQ purist, although I do recognize the extremely beneficial feature of item links. They should have been in at classic launch.

[Spineripper]

AFAIK:

item links are so hard coded into the game that its nearly impossible to take out. They would have to go through every single items "code number" and change stuff by hand. That is a monumental task.

So would anyone actually prefer the item links removed? Imagine the massive increase in auction spam as people list items with their full stats. Or the asinine hassle of looking through peoples bags in the trade window as your method of shopping. Or trying to get through raid loot.

Personally i can be a classic EQ purist, although I do recognize the extremely beneficial feature of item links. They should have been in at classic launch.

Im not a dev or anything, but couldn't you just disable the part where you click on the image of the item to display the link? Similar to what they did with maps? I don't think not having links asinine, I think it brings out the MUD in EQ. Would bring ForumQuesting more interesting by inspecting bags etc.

[fastboy21]

Tell queues also (as in when you zone, you should be losing all chat until you come back into game). Remember telling folks back in the day "sec, zoning" so that they would know to hold off saying anything important for a sec?

I believe the tell queue was added back in vanilla/Kunark on Blue.

[TripSin]

Old school names/format, no item links, and have to type out all stats etc. Just genuine 99 experience :D

At first I thought maybe Titanium client is too new? But then I see they were able to remove pet windows, maps etc. I don't know what client EQClassic uses but this looks very nice. Truely reminds me of the days of old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUvIHXfpW_Y

That's still not classic.

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/Classic_Full_Screen_UI.jpg

[cd288]

What is the YouTube link for?

[Gwildar]

That's still not classic.

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/Classic_Full_Screen_UI.jpg

This is genuinely how i played the game until it was not an option anymore at i think Luclin?

[douglas1999]

You could f-10 out of the letterbox window from the beginning I believe. They had some extremely primitive version of the fullscreen transparent ui. I distinctly remember using it while tricking people into letting me loot their corpse with /consent which was done away with well before kunark

[Danth]

Old school names/format, no item links, and have to type out all stats etc. Just genuine 99 experience :D

At first I thought maybe Titanium client is too new? But then I see they were able to remove pet windows, maps etc. I don't know what client EQClassic uses but this looks very nice. Truely reminds me of the days of old.

EQClassic uses the 2001-produced (there's also a 2002 version) Trilogy disks. That means it has the interface which the P1999 "Velious Interface" seeks to replicate as well as the older fullscreen "periscope mode" interface. The Titanium client used by P1999 does have its limitations but they're not necessarily as severe as might be thought. Features such as item links, 8 spells per spellbook page, and multiple chat windows can all be removed from the present interface P1999-Green uses, if desired. These features were left in by deliberate choice of the P1999 admins for various reasons. Links, for example, are regarded as a tool to reduce GM workload (always in short supply here) by reducing scamming.

A few other features like the stamina bar not working cannot be fixed within current knowledge. Attempts have been made and it'll be fixed if a breakthrough is ever made.

Danth

[Vdaria]

I always thought that Everquest was an example of a game made by programmers and not game developers, and that screenshot of the old UI is a clear example of why

[Dolalin]

It was a product of its time. Look at Baldur's Gate released the year before, same idea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldur%27s_Gate#/media/File%3ADuchal_palace_sarevok_speaks_BGI.png

[Jibartik]

god damn eqClassic is a work of art.

From what I understand that project has been worked on religiously longer than P99.. and its still private!

afaik p99 actually started after eqclassic because that server was offlimits to the public, as a temporary classic solution, where it would work backwards and fix what they could, and eventually everyone would go onto the eq classic server. But for all kinds of reasons I dont really want to speculate about that didnt happen.

P99 is something special though all in of itself. Almost as special as everquest at this point I think. It's almost been around half as long and has really become the lexicon for classic information, that's pretty impressive.

Edit: God dammit now I'm loramin.

[Izmael]

Disabling item links on Green would be nice.

Probably 15 minutes of Secrets's time needed (if he could disable the forced /dyn lightings while he's at it, he'd be my hero).

[fastboy21]

god damn eqClassic is a work of art.

It would be. Is there even anyone still working on it actively? Its been very slow development...

[Jibartik]

hehe see my edit fastboy!

There is 1 guy still working on it too I think, and there is a discord and (semi?) active form. It has him the as the only non slayed developer on the credits page.

[Jibartik]

Disabling item links on Green would be nice.

Probably 15 minutes of Secrets's time needed (if he could disable the forced /dyn lightings while he's at it, he'd be my hero).

It's actually extremely easy to remove than that.

Hint: inspecting items should not have an icon in the UI window during classic.

[Christina.]

Removing item linking would be terrible. I pray they don't do that lol. It's classic enough as is.

[Izmael]

On Green only!

[fastboy21]

hehe see my edit fastboy!

There is 1 guy still working on it too I think, and there is a discord and (semi?) active form. It has him the as the only non slayed developer on the credits page.

I followed the development/forums a long time ago. I even participated in some of the early early testing (maybe almost 10 years ago now?).

I don't recall the details, but from what I remember the guy leading the development essentially abandoned the project and Harakari eventually picked it up...but I don't think I've heard much in the last few years to the point that I figured it was dead.

I hit up the forums this morning b/c of this thread and the last dev update, which was from Harakari still, is over 1 year old. Either progress is VERY slow or non existent.

Hopefully someone is creeping it along slowly. Honestly though, at this point, I'm pretty happy with p99 and titanium. I'm not sure I have enough of the truly classic itch in me to go much farther back than the current setup on green...I'd def try it out, I think it is essentially a niche project of a project that was already a very niche product.

[Neno]

You could f-10 out of the letterbox window from the beginning I believe. They had some extremely primitive version of the fullscreen transparent ui. I distinctly remember using it while tricking people into letting me loot their corpse with /consent which was done away with well before kunark

Yeah, F10 was there. Amazingly so many people had no idea you could do that from what I have read here over the years.

[Jibartik]

I followed the development/forums a long time ago. I even participated in some of the early early testing (maybe almost 10 years ago now?).

I don't recall the details, but from what I remember the guy leading the development essentially abandoned the project and Harakari eventually picked it up...but I don't think I've heard much in the last few years to the point that I figured it was dead.

I hit up the forums this morning b/c of this thread and the last dev update, which was from Harakari still, is over 1 year old. Either progress is VERY slow or non existent.

Hopefully someone is creeping it along slowly. Honestly though, at this point, I'm pretty happy with p99 and titanium. I'm not sure I have enough of the truly classic itch in me to go much farther back than the current setup on green...I'd def try it out, I think it is essentially a niche project of a project that was already a very niche product.

Yeah the last update was in 2019. I love p99 and it sorta became "the peoples project" and for that it is very special.

It's just a part of eq history now, almost as much as eq itself, the wiki has more accurate data than anyplace on the internet, or on internal servers at Daybreak haha

I cant imagine that eqClassic is going to be able to be classic, without using the information discovered on p99 about all the small fixes in mob behavior and quest/items alone. soooooooooooo many changes have been made over sooooooooo long, and all of that QA was from US, playing HERE and reading old papers and google chats.

That puts P99 as the tip of the spear of classic eq recreation, with thousands of dedicated testers hunting through thousands of hours of game to find out the texture on a bone is backwards lol.

It would be kidna lame if someone just took all that free info and took a steaming dump on p99 and used it all to crush its playerbase lol but oh well, such is life haha

But that said, I was watching his youtube videos when i was trying to get the UI to work lol so its all one big happy party of eq players and moders, servers be dammed! haha

[Tethler]

Tell queues also (as in when you zone, you should be losing all chat until you come back into game). Remember telling folks back in the day "sec, zoning" so that they would know to hold off saying anything important for a sec?

I believe the tell queue was added back in vanilla/Kunark on Blue.

I wish the tell queue system worked for guild chat, too.

[Jibartik]

I wish when you zoned while getting a tell, the tell didn't go through :P

[Bigsham]

wonder what happened to eq classic troll of the century i guess

[Bigsham]

Development Roadmap -

Status as of August 12, 2014

LOL no update 6 years

[Dolalin]

EQEmulator already has an emulation layer for the Trilogy client I believe, I was chatting to Secrets about it awhile back. So there's not much for EQClassic to do anymore.

The Final Frontier for classic EQ is accurately simulating the first year of Everquest, through the patches and changes and tweaks of the dark age of the early game. I've dug up enough patch notes and mob lists and spreadsheets to make it possible. We'll get there.

[douglas1999]

Oh man I'd love to see the classic vanilla\kunark skies again

[Daldaen]

Titanium client is the bane of a classic immersion experience. Switching over to an older client is the single biggest change P99 could make for the better.