Just started back and already dont know how to feel

[A1rh3ad]

When green started I got my ogre warrior to level 10 and managed to grind lizardmen for enough pp to buy a full set of banded armor and grabbed some some fine steel 1h weapons from a player killing ogre guards. I took a long break to focus on irl stuff. Recently I got the itch to come back and coming back my wife and I grinded on dervs, deathfists and crocs when we could find a group and 2 manned spiders and scarabs in Ro. The typical things you do. This time was different though. I felt like I've done all this. Walking through the tunnel I was watching the auction channel and it made me depressed. I will never afford this stuff. It just beat down my sense of self worth. Got in a group with some players who were not twinked to the point of being invincible but were dealing twice my damage and took hits like a truck. This made me feel even more depressed. While I am excited to get to level 13 for duel wield grinding felt like a chore. Nothing was interesting. I hope I'm not burned out on this game. I'm not sure what to do. I want to play but everything makes me sigh and not want to. I just watch the time fly by thinking about how I have to work tomorrow, or how there are things in irl I should be doing. The game feels like a daunting hopeless endeavor. Idk, I think there isnt really an answer for this I just wanted to vent a bit. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

[kerrai]

Log off. Come back if and when it’s what you want.

[Spineripper]

Trust me man, once you hit like 28+ everything almost drops fine steel which sells for 5pp. Its not difficult at all getting plat, and join a guild they will help you out 100%.

[Swish]

Is your wife still playing with you? Together you can probably duo some decent cash camps ^^

[Tethler]

Yeah, those first levels are rough. People have gear now that the server has been around for 8 months, but the first wave was just a bunch of homeless people in rags beating orcs with sticks. If you enjoy the game, stick it out and you'll get there eventually. Better yet, browse the wiki a bit and look up some early-game quests for weapon/armor upgrades to give you a goal and boost your gear a bit at the same time!

[Tethler]

Is your wife still playing with you? Together you can probably duo some decent cash camps ^^

For sure. in the low teens I'm sure you can duo the sisters camp in lfay for some decent cash (they drop bronze weapons). Ogres can vendor at the steamfont druid rings too.

[Fammaden]

Stop trying to buck the path of least resistance and shelf the warrior. Play a necro or a druid or a mage or a chanter. Get to 50, make money then make a melee.

All things in this game are attainable with time and determination. If you are lacking in one or both then maybe its not what you really want to do after all.

[DMN]

Sounds like you are looking for a low effort yet high reward game/class. EQ/warrior are neither.

And ted talks are informative. This is not.

[M.J.]

You and the wife should reroll Gnome Bertox or Brell Serillis worshippers.

Enchanter, Cleric - Warrior, Cleric - Necromancer, Cleric - Magician, Magician etc.

Hard to stay grumpy and lumpy when your booty is wiggling and your arms pumping like a Kenyan runner even though you've got a beer belly and are born "naked" in fisherman overalls.

Start retired, start gnome, always feel at home!

[greenspectre]

I'd definitely reconsider your class selection if you're wanting more out of this game. My IRL friend rolled a warrior and I've been setting him up with gear as a shaman, now 45, by taking advantage of my ability to root/rot to kill anything, farm HG's, quest Crafted and Hero Bracers, etc. He's in his mid-30's now but still broke as a joke because he doesn't have access to cash camps other than FS drops in groups. Even at 40, when I was able to hold down a Hill Giant spawn in RM, he will not be able to do the same.

If the EC tunnel makes you feel depressed, you need a change of class, friend. I'd advise switching before you sink more time into your Warrior. If EQ itself is making you depressed, then I would advise another break from the game. It will always be here but time with your family and kids won't.

[VincentVolaju]

Stop trying to buck the path of least resistance and shelf the warrior. Play a necro or a druid or a mage or a chanter. Get to 50, make money then make a melee.

I agree with this. You took an IRL break during the one time when it was completely okay / normal to be a melee char in cloth gear with combine / FS weapons. So of course 6+ months later, all the people who didn't take a break, have all farmed themselves a bunch of $$$ and gear for their melee alts.

If you don't want to play in groups as a Warrior in banded, then you should roll a solo powerhouse class first, like Necro, Druid, Enchanter, or Mage. Do the same thing as others have done.

Get a 40+ farming class, learn the dungeons, mobs, where to loot/farm etc. then make yourself some $$. Use that to buy some nice stuff for your Warrior, then when you log on your Warrior YOU'LL be the one with some pretty twinked out stuff shredding stuff up.

However, if you can't enjoy playing a PC game because you're too worried about things IRL that you should be focusing on instead... then that's probably what you should do. Focus on your IRL stuff first and get yourself to the point where you can sit down for a couple hours a night and enjoy the games your playing.

[Aeaolena]

When green started I got my ogre warrior to level 10 and managed to grind lizardmen for enough pp to buy a full set of banded armor and grabbed some some fine steel 1h weapons from a player killing ogre guards. I took a long break to focus on irl stuff. Recently I got the itch to come back and coming back my wife and I grinded on dervs, deathfists and crocs when we could find a group and 2 manned spiders and scarabs in Ro. The typical things you do. This time was different though. I felt like I've done all this. Walking through the tunnel I was watching the auction channel and it made me depressed. I will never afford this stuff. It just beat down my sense of self worth. Got in a group with some players who were not twinked to the point of being invincible but were dealing twice my damage and took hits like a truck. This made me feel even more depressed. While I am excited to get to level 13 for duel wield grinding felt like a chore. Nothing was interesting. I hope I'm not burned out on this game. I'm not sure what to do. I want to play but everything makes me sigh and not want to. I just watch the time fly by thinking about how I have to work tomorrow, or how there are things in irl I should be doing. The game feels like a daunting hopeless endeavor. Idk, I think there isnt really an answer for this I just wanted to vent a bit. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

What is cool here is that your wife is playing with you. My husband played during classic but won't touch P1999.

What are your characters names? I can hook you guys up with some jewelry.

or send Faerie a tell in game on green

[Jubal]

It sounds like you're doing fine. Everquest is not supposed to be a fun game. It's supposed to make you realize you will only get to live once, stop wasting the hell out of it.

[turbosilk]

When green started I got my ogre warrior to level 10 and managed to grind lizardmen for enough pp to buy a full set of banded armor and grabbed some some fine steel 1h weapons from a player killing ogre guards. I took a long break to focus on irl stuff. Recently I got the itch to come back and coming back my wife and I grinded on dervs, deathfists and crocs when we could find a group and 2 manned spiders and scarabs in Ro. The typical things you do. This time was different though. I felt like I've done all this. Walking through the tunnel I was watching the auction channel and it made me depressed. I will never afford this stuff. It just beat down my sense of self worth. Got in a group with some players who were not twinked to the point of being invincible but were dealing twice my damage and took hits like a truck. This made me feel even more depressed. While I am excited to get to level 13 for duel wield grinding felt like a chore. Nothing was interesting. I hope I'm not burned out on this game. I'm not sure what to do. I want to play but everything makes me sigh and not want to. I just watch the time fly by thinking about how I have to work tomorrow, or how there are things in irl I should be doing. The game feels like a daunting hopeless endeavor. Idk, I think there isnt really an answer for this I just wanted to vent a bit. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

Grinding outdoor zones is boring. Go to dungeons. Not entrance hugging. Go all the way in.

[Trexller]

Could play like alot of folks do and not log into game often, but ForumQuest !

its good xp.

[Bristlebaner]

Might I suggest Aradune TLP? You'll level faster and loot will be plenty!

[Snortles Chortles]

sometimes you need a forced break when things get stale
just like real life

[BlackBellamy]

sometimes you need a forced break when things get stale
just like real life

used to go clubbing
but then aids killed everyone
so i stopped going

[Dolalin]

I've been plodding along as a warrior now, just about level 20, and I've been decked out by friendly players with all sorts of gear. It's not hard to get twinked if you're a legit lowbie trying to level. I haven't even been trying. Some high level warrior in indoclite came up to me in Oasis and just handed me a charred guardian bp and invis pot at the orc highway. Players on this server are great.

All that being said, am I crazy for actually *enjoying* the newbie poverty from level 1-10? I must be I guess.

[Kich867]

When green started I got my ogre warrior to level 10 and managed to grind lizardmen for enough pp to buy a full set of banded armor and grabbed some some fine steel 1h weapons from a player killing ogre guards. I took a long break to focus on irl stuff. Recently I got the itch to come back and coming back my wife and I grinded on dervs, deathfists and crocs when we could find a group and 2 manned spiders and scarabs in Ro. The typical things you do. This time was different though. I felt like I've done all this. Walking through the tunnel I was watching the auction channel and it made me depressed. I will never afford this stuff. It just beat down my sense of self worth. Got in a group with some players who were not twinked to the point of being invincible but were dealing twice my damage and took hits like a truck. This made me feel even more depressed. While I am excited to get to level 13 for duel wield grinding felt like a chore. Nothing was interesting. I hope I'm not burned out on this game. I'm not sure what to do. I want to play but everything makes me sigh and not want to. I just watch the time fly by thinking about how I have to work tomorrow, or how there are things in irl I should be doing. The game feels like a daunting hopeless endeavor. Idk, I think there isnt really an answer for this I just wanted to vent a bit. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

Highly recommend not buying gear and instead crafting / questing / finding it yourself. I soloed my warrior to 43 and camped all my own gear, with a duo or grouping I'd for sure have mostly best in slot pre-raid gear by now.

Warriors can be fun, just understand that until you get a pair of obsidian shards or something you're not really tanking, you're a mediocre dps class.

My guide goes through a lot of places I either went to level or went to camp items: http://wiki.project1999.com/EchoLocation8%27s_Solo_Warrior_Guide

With a duo you can do better places, but, honestly I'd stand by these places (besides CT Well room that sucked) and with a duo you can just do them more easily. Outlines ways to make money (I've made easily several thousand plat on the way to 43 just looting and selling shit like finesteel, silk swatches, gems, etc), find gear, and good warrior spots all the way to 43, but realistically you could follow it to 50 since the answer is "guards".

[douglas1999]

Everquest can be snorted, but it can also be transmuted into a smokable form. Your brain has receptors to receive everquest endogenously, whereas a hummingbird, for instance, cannot detect everquest.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Everquest can be snorted, but it can also be transmuted into a smokable form. Your brain has receptors to receive everquest endogenously, whereas a hummingbird, for instance, cannot detect everquest.

Rangers receive Everquest as a suppository :(

[Jimjam]

Rangers receive Everquest as a suppository :(

Feels kind good tho, no harmo.

[Keebz]

The twink armor is all marginally better than banded and weapons are cheap. Pick up an exe axe for 150pp, a couple plat fire rings for 500pp and you are as effective as most twinks. Making 650pp from 10-20 should be pretty doable. There's still plenty of people in banded with dragoon dirks roaming around.

[Castle2.0]

Melees are terrible in classic. They are slightly less terrible with BIS items compared to average EC trash items you can get decked out in for 1-2k.

Slay wisps, profit. Be only slightly more terrible than top raiders.

Or go cloth and stack that cash to make a super melee twink in Kunark/Velious.

[fastboy21]

One of the ironies of EQ is that getting the first 10 levels, in many ways, are actually more frustrating than the last 10.

You have no abilities. No gear. Probably no friends. If you never played EQ you have no idea where to go, what to hunt, what quests to do...you manage to ding, but have no plat for your spells, you manage to kill a blue mob and realize that you need 40 of those to ding...and each one takes you 5 minutes...do a little math...realize that EQ is long and (so far) hasn't been much fun. What kind of game is this...

Trust us, we wouldn't be here if this was all there was. The game is so much better than those first few lvls in the newbie yard in every possible way.

[Jimjam]

Those are my favourite levels! Every class is basically a warrior for the first half, maybe full, dozen levels.

Scraping together a set of cloth and making the best tarnished weapon you can. Upgrading to a store brought axe or bastard sword. Hunting cougars to wrap yourself up.

Saving up for that combine weapon so you can whack wisps. Levelling up tradeskills to turn those spare pelts into useful things like bags, or even armour.

Man that the best thing in classic EQ! Once my bard had his combine weapon, most slots filled with banded or reinforced leather and a bunch of bags I basically lost the drive to play. Shelved at level 16 cos there wasn't really any more low hanging fruit in reach, everything else was feeling like a grind for the sake of grinding.

[fastboy21]

Those are my favourite levels! Every class is basically a warrior for the first half, maybe full, dozen levels.

Scraping together a set of cloth and making the best tarnished weapon you can. Upgrading to a store brought axe or bastard sword. Hunting cougars to wrap yourself up.

Saving up for that combine weapon so you can whack wisps. Levelling up tradeskills to turn those spare pelts into useful things like bags, or even armour.

Man that the best thing in classic EQ! Once my bard had his combine weapon, most slots filled with banded or reinforced leather and a bunch of bags I basically lost the drive to play. Shelved at level 16 cos there wasn't really any more low hanging fruit in reach, everything else was feeling like a grind for the sake of grinding.

Its hella nostalgic, but from a game design perspective it is really hard on the player. There is a reason why even at its height EQ was notorious for players quitting just b/c they ran into a dead end that they didn't know how to get past...or worse, decided it wasn't worth getting past.

There is also a reason that pretty much every seasoned player takes pleasure in their personal method to beat the newbie yard...usually involving an exploited quest involving droppable bits (belts, ears, teeth, bonechips, etc.)...most truly new players only find out about these short cuts well after they escaped the newbie yard the hard way.

[MudVodka]

...This made me feel even more depressed. While I am excited to get to level 13 for duel wield grinding felt like a chore. Nothing was interesting. I hope I'm not burned out on this game. I'm not sure what to do. I want to play but everything makes me sigh and not want to. I just watch the time fly by thinking about how I have to work tomorrow, or how there are things in irl I should be doing. The game feels like a daunting hopeless endeavor. Idk, I think there isnt really an answer for this I just wanted to vent a bit. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

This means that EQ finally got stale and been to the well too many times. I came back to TLP Ragefire/Lockjaw and it was absurd with bot armies. Tried again with Coirnav for a true box, no armies, but still was a hybrid and fake classic. So I found titanium, and was excited to try Project 1999. It was as classic as classic can get, so I thought I would be satisfied. However, I wasn't. I realized the type of players on TLP or Live are the same type of players here. That and the game itself was the root of the problem. The players are all about the same wash and repeat. Zoom to 50, twink out alts, same pathways, same strat, same mobs in the same zones at the same camp. I stopped and moved on. I still compare other games to the foundation EQ built. But I realize it, and the player base has nothing left to offer as it is no longer an adventure...but Groundhog Day the RPG.
Covid-19 let me see my old bookmarks to stop by one more time, and saw your Ted Talk.

[A1rh3ad]

Thanks for the advice. We rolled new characters and are having a blast. I think I was just in a mental rut because I've been enjoying the game again. I rolled a druid so I can eventually make some of that sweet port money and get my warrior some better weapons. I think the different zones helped. We have done ro and oasis so many times the last times we played.

[strongNpretty]

Thanks for the advice. We rolled new characters and are having a blast. I think I was just in a mental rut because I've been enjoying the game again. I rolled a druid so I can eventually make some of that sweet port money and get my warrior some better weapons. I think the different zones helped. We have done ro and oasis so many times the last times we played.

Good man! Now have a blast out there, and remember- Most folks can balance video games and life, the ones who can't, make their voices extremely heard.

[Knuckle]

When green started I got my ogre warrior to level 10 and managed to grind lizardmen for enough pp to buy a full set of banded armor and grabbed some some fine steel 1h weapons from a player killing ogre guards. I took a long break to focus on irl stuff. Recently I got the itch to come back and coming back my wife and I grinded on dervs, deathfists and crocs when we could find a group and 2 manned spiders and scarabs in Ro. The typical things you do. This time was different though. I felt like I've done all this. Walking through the tunnel I was watching the auction channel and it made me depressed. I will never afford this stuff. It just beat down my sense of self worth. Got in a group with some players who were not twinked to the point of being invincible but were dealing twice my damage and took hits like a truck. This made me feel even more depressed. While I am excited to get to level 13 for duel wield grinding felt like a chore. Nothing was interesting. I hope I'm not burned out on this game. I'm not sure what to do. I want to play but everything makes me sigh and not want to. I just watch the time fly by thinking about how I have to work tomorrow, or how there are things in irl I should be doing. The game feels like a daunting hopeless endeavor. Idk, I think there isnt really an answer for this I just wanted to vent a bit. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

Won't ever have fun unless you play the way you want. You know the rules by now. If you want early money making farming power you go caster. If you want late game gearing/pain to level/ perma LFG then you go melee first toon and accept the trials.

[TripSin]

Good man! Now have a blast out there, and remember- Most folks can balance video games and life, the ones who can't, make their voices extremely heard.

You could also try an enchanter. You can do the stein of moggok quest in your early teens and those sell pretty easily (or at least they did when I played a while ago maybe the economy is bad now idk). You can do things to optimize the time to complete the quest by buying certain cheap components in bulk (like the koala nuts), buying honeycombs from low level players, and getting ports (if ur low level can prolly get away with cheap donations just apologize and say sorry I'm new and don't have any money lol) Also double and triple check turn ins so you don't get your items eaten. Then you can try to find other loot appropriate cash spots like sisters in lfay, sell good items you get from group, then farm rathe HGs with charm when u get high enough level. And your chanter doesn't require any gear investment (though u may want to buy some cheap CHA stuff).

[GinnasP99]

This is easy, stop being depressed

[Hagglebaron]

Won't ever have fun unless you play the way you want. You know the rules by now. If you want early money making farming power you go caster. If you want late game gearing/pain to level/ perma LFG then you go melee first toon and accept the trials.

Knuckle you got your name back right? I never confirmed with you after I sent you the email.

[danzig]

Thanks for the advice. We rolled new characters and are having a blast. I think I was just in a mental rut because I've been enjoying the game again. I rolled a druid so I can eventually make some of that sweet port money and get my warrior some better weapons. I think the different zones helped. We have done ro and oasis so many times the last times we played.

Different zones definitely helps, and casters are a more varied experience than melees for sure.

Be open to picking some random places and seeing what’s there. I had mostly done it all and seen it all by the time I started my hard-mode halfling warrior in Classic so the whole farm-buy-race-to-the-end stuff was already old af. The devs made a lot of stuff able to be done in small groups and they tucked a lot of weird little quests/rare mobs into Classic if you know where to look. By the teens I was rocking Bull Smasher, the rare rat in Dagnor’s collar, the Splinflint hat from The Gorge, Scarab Armor, the Rivervale STA belt, random stuff. You can do all that stuff with an hour and a half here or there if you get ports. Plus you see the world!

If I wasn’t as aware of all those little oddball missions to go on it probably would have sucked killing wasps and goblins over and over in crap gear, though.