There are plans for the PVP Community

[Snortles Chortles]

There are plans for the PVP Community. We are not announcing or addressing them until after Green launches.

https://i.imgur.com/crPwCvS.jpg

[kjs86z]

considering blue

[Pint]

Plans for them to get bent?

[Kohedron]

p99 players don't want to actually use skill and talent to acquire camps, they want to rule lawyer and post videos on rnf and petition others and then masturbate to the thought of trumping someone else

but yeah ok I guess that sounds cool whatever you're saying

[Pint]

Last time i tried red the pop was about 30. I logged into a half naked 50s druid and started killing a seafury for fun when a 60 comes up and kills me (no big deal pvp), then he kills me while I'm naked walking to corpse twice in a row so i q'd, came back half an hour later, looted and never logged on again. That server is brimming with skill and talent and cool dudes who the staff totally should spend their time on.

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/fM5PyNy.png

[DMN]

You need read it with Skeletor's voice for the meaning to be properly conveyed.

[kaev]

p99 players don't want to actually use skill and talent to acquire camps...

WTF does that have to do with red99? Inquiring minds wish to know why you shitposted this absurd non-sequitur to Snortles lovely little thread.

[cd288]

WTF does that have to do with red99? Inquiring minds wish to know why you shitposted this absurd non-sequitur to Snortles lovely little thread.

Not agreeing with the guy but if you don’t understand the fairly obvious point he’s trying to make I think that’s on you dude

[Phaezed-Reality]

wish i had the time to play a new red server. I'll probably just settle for GMing it so you guys can have a nice server to play on with no dumb pnp stuff.

[Loadsamoney]

I was warned hardcore about how guilds like to gatekeep each other when it comes to raids and certain mobs to prevent rival guilds from getting their epics and challenging them. That was a bit of a turnoff for me.

[Blingy]

I was warned hardcore about how guilds like to gatekeep each other when it comes to raids and certain mobs to prevent rival guilds from getting their epics and challenging them. That was a bit of a turnoff for me.

There's currently 43 people in red. How can there be more than 1 guild? :p

[Loadsamoney]

There's currently 43 people in red. How can there be more than 1 guild? :p

How did TMO amass a force of 30+ players in the span of five minutes, seemingly out of nowhere?

Batphones.

[Woke Locc]

How did TMO amass a force of 30+ players in the span of five minutes, seemingly out of nowhere?

Batphones.

TMO had the highest net tonnage of human capital in server history

[Kohedron]

WTF does that have to do with red99? Inquiring minds wish to know why you shitposted this absurd non-sequitur to Snortles lovely little thread.

Hm yeah it's almost like red is dead as shit because p99 players (like yourself) just want to cry and rule lawyer. But yeah ok whatever you say my man

[Loadsamoney]

TMO had the highest net tonnage of human capital in server history

Which is why I said in The Great Cover Up thread that the Second Great Cover Up was (IMHO, mind you) Bregan D'Aerth. BDA was one of the few guilds in TMO's era that could challenge TMO in player pool size and the ability to amass a raid force in record time. Maybe the only guild.

[Woke Locc]

Which is why I said in The Great Cover Up thread that the Second Great Cover Up was (IMHO, mind you) Bregan D'Aerth. BDA was one of the few guilds in TMO's era that could challenge TMO in player pool size and the ability to amass a raid force in record time. Maybe the only guild.

*player size

[Baler]

I relish the thought of camping lulz's corpse while he petitions me for being a cyber bully.

[Swish]

Which is why I said in The Great Cover Up thread that the Second Great Cover Up was (IMHO, mind you) Bregan D'Aerth. BDA was one of the few guilds in TMO's era that could challenge TMO in player pool size and the ability to amass a raid force in record time. Maybe the only guild.

They were better at batphoning RNF threads when they were getting destroyed on the forums than actually raiding, but yeah... who can say no to logging in for a 100+ Trakanon raid with a kill time under 10 seconds :o

[Trexller]

p99 players don't want to actually use skill and talent to acquire camps, they want to rule lawyer and post videos on rnf and petition others and then masturbate to the thought of trumping someone else

Plans for them to get bent?

[kaev]

Not agreeing with the guy but if you don’t understand the fairly obvious point he’s trying to make I think that’s on you dude

whoosh!

or to put it slightly differently, wtf does skill have to do with raid-geared L60 corpse camping a random L50? (here's a clue for you: nothing! 99% of success on red is the same as 99% of success on blue: time spent growing that neckbeard, the other 1% is a mix of randomness & game knowledge.)

[kaev]

Which is why I said in The Great Cover Up thread that the Second Great Cover Up was (IMHO, mind you) Bregan D'Aerth. BDA was one of the few guilds in TMO's era that could challenge TMO in player pool size and the ability to amass a raid force in record time. Maybe the only guild.

BDA's batphone didn't accomplish didlysquat during the TMO era. If people were in-game we could mobilize reasonably well, but I never saw a raidforce assembled out of thin air.

[Snortles Chortles]

I relish the thought of camping lulz's corpse while he petitions me for being a cyber bully.

https://i.imgur.com/o1xf8QO.gif

[Nirgon]

Last time i tried red the pop was about 30. I logged into a half naked 50s druid and started killing a seafury for fun when a 60 comes up and kills me (no big deal pvp), then he kills me while I'm naked walking to corpse twice in a row so i q'd, came back half an hour later, looted and never logged on again. That server is brimming with skill and talent and cool dudes who the staff totally should spend their time on.


PvP range is 4 levels

Y'all are real dumb

[Evia]

PvP range is 4 levels

Y'all are real dumb

He said 50s Druid. Could easily be 57-59.

[Trexller]

He said 50s Druid. Could easily be 57-59.

Nirgon is DMO. Ironically, those particular erudites are not known for their brains.

Erudin guards should kill DMO tagged players as they are a living insult to their race and pursuit of wisdom and logic.

[Snortles Chortles]

slaughtered plenty of red con players on red back when we had a pop
maybe pint is just a bad player alert
pic related
http://i.imgur.com/ZMfZQ96.jpg

[cd288]

whoosh!

or to put it slightly differently, wtf does skill have to do with raid-geared L60 corpse camping a random L50? (here's a clue for you: nothing! 99% of success on red is the same as 99% of success on blue: time spent growing that neckbeard, the other 1% is a mix of randomness & game knowledge.)

Lol @ the guy who missed the point originally saying whoosh

[sydbarrett25]

Nirgon is DMO. Ironically, those particular erudites are not known for their brains.

Erudin guards should kill DMO tagged players as they are a living insult to their race and pursuit of wisdom and logic.

Nirgon is killing green right now. You know how long hes been playing? I would not be insulting that guy, he knows what he is doing.

[Jimjam]

slaughtered plenty of red con players on red back when we had a pop
maybe pint is just a bad player alert
pic related
http://i.imgur.com/ZMfZQ96.jpg

I remember trying to xp with a pal at like level 20 in permafrost and Kimm kept abandoning her camp at bears to come kill us and foil our attempts at goblin slaying. Good times.

[Trexller]

Nirgon is killing green right now. You know how long hes been playing? I would not be insulting that guy, he knows what he is doing.

he's killing green? so you are saying he is playing well on a 20 year old game, that has endless wiki and other information? been min/maxed to the extreme, played the same classes over and over, knows exactly where to get everything?

So Basically, Nirgon is really good at doing things everyone here knows how to do?

lol this sydbarrett carries both water and a torch for that guy

[Cecily]

*player size
It's funny because they're fat.

[Swish]

he's killing green? so you are saying he is playing well on a 20 year old game, that has endless wiki and other information? been min/maxed to the extreme, played the same classes over and over, knows exactly where to get everything?

So Basically, Nirgon is really good at doing things everyone here knows how to do?

lol this sydbarrett carries both water and a torch for that guy

You sound burnt out. Take a break? ;)

[Ratchet51]

he's killing green? so you are saying he is playing well on a 20 year old game, that has endless wiki and other information? been min/maxed to the extreme, played the same classes over and over, knows exactly where to get everything?

So Basically, Nirgon is really good at doing things everyone here knows how to do?

lol this sydbarrett carries both water and a torch for that guy

Consider a nap.

[tsuchang]

Relative to the title of this thread, I think a few of the players on Red should be spanked.

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/v1nJsEp.gif

[Nirgon]

I remember trying to xp with a pal at like level 20 in permafrost and Kimm kept abandoning her camp at bears to come kill us and foil our attempts at goblin slaying. Good times.

Lulz has played against me in games before and been blown out like you cannot imagine. For some reason, I don't have to constantly bring it up.

He continues to cling to a pic where I left my account to aimchat pals (pictured: Prince who is mentioned in ooc) to play. He's mad he can't weasel his way into DMO to spam "we wuz kangz" in ooc like he has been doing and get us disbanded in a way like Bestow did to Holocaust on red. If he was a brighter person, he wouldn't be so obvious and it might have worked.

If there's one thing he's good at, its having meltdowns due to a chemical imbalance in his Brian and getting banned 100s of times FQ/in game combined, literally.

He cares a lot more than he'd like you to believe about elf quest or people's perception of him. I know his mads quite well. Get well soon pal. Quit attackin!

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/qV2tQy5.jpg

[Nirgon]

https://i.imgur.com/JjrmsQO.png

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/Mw8dmrS.gif

[Nirgon]

https://i.imgur.com/r1Z7OYT.png

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/RiXgJ7G.jpg

[Nirgon]

https://i.imgur.com/sI99Uxg.png

[sydbarrett25]

Consider a nap.

I dont even play green, lmao.

[sydbarrett25]

Shit wrong quote, oh well. Keep killing it DMO

[watbab]

need to brush my teeth

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/ImBbWyA.gif

[RecondoJoe]

Red server is basically just WoW. Fast exp, pointless non balanced world pvp.

[Nirgon]

fast xp leads to stable quest

worse for the casuals by a long shot

[Worry]

I, for one, would play Red99 if it had at least 300 people on it.

But low pop is disgusting for an MMO like this. IMO.

[Nirgon]

Agree - only a freshie can fix.

Box integrity lessons were learned. I hope.

[Snortles Chortles]

You have slain Nirgon!

[Nirgon]

we both know lulzy

[Nuggie]

Agree - only a freshie can fix.

Box integrity lessons were learned. I hope.

Like don't "overkill" the other guild?

[galach]

https://i.imgur.com/8aqUGtI.gif

[kumaladin]

Soon™

[Tunabros]

https://i.imgur.com/crPwCvS.jpg

lol

[Nuggie]

got those cheeseburgers?

[Lune]

I, for one, would play Red99 if it had at least 300 people on it.

But low pop is disgusting for an MMO like this. IMO.

Low pop is the ultimate fate of EQ pvp and entropy works extra fast

It's just not good

[Lune]

There are plans for the PVP Community.

https://i.imgur.com/7Ejrtdt.jpg

[douglas1999]

I remember hearing about everquest before it released and being concerned that pvp would be consensual because it was so fun in uo and then i played eq and went "ohhhhh, pvp would suck shit in this game!". I could see teams being fun tho

[Arteker]

I remember hearing about everquest before it released and being concerned that pvp would be consensual because it was so fun in uo and then i played eq and went "ohhhhh, pvp would suck shit in this game!". I could see teams being fun tho

fun on uo? what kind of fucking drugs u did back then , i wanna pump recondo and snortie with em.

[douglas1999]

fun on uo? what kind of fucking drugs u did back then , i wanna pump recondo and snortie with em.

I don't know what this means, uo pvp was really fun is all.

[Bardp1999]

I don't know what this means, uo pvp was really fun is all.

Can confirm UO as good, only problem is it was more about connection than skill for a long while

[Caleb_Crawdad]

It’s a solution to the drama on the other servers. Deity teams this mother. Huge population incoming.

[Snortles Chortles]

Item Loot When

[Phaezed-Reality]

Low pop is the ultimate fate of EQ pvp and entropy works extra fast

It's just not good

when red launched there was 600ish pop. and maintained for quite a while. The reasons it died was not due to pvp, not due to the playerbase(way less toxic than green/blue). It had everything to due with CSR situations and other server related issues. I don't hold it against rogean or staff. I see it as growing pains. red99 v2.0 needs to be staffed by red players. and no blue staff can come and do anything on it. It's that simple. and a few things need to be adressed mechanically.

[Snortles Chortles]

PraS CT

[Snortles Chortles]

SiP

[goldlush]

Dirty teams would kick ass

[Zephys]

I'd play on any team pvp server in a heartbeat. race, alignment, doesn't matter.

[Jimjam]

You can attack another player if they are kos to your faction. You are then flagged pvp to others of that faction (and to factions that assist that faction) until the conflict is resolved. It would be cool to make faction relevant to pvp. Prolly won’t work in practice.

[HalflingSpergand]

halflings vs evryone else post apocalyptic norrath. evryone but halflungs wearing masks and u have to transport a ring through enemg territory

[Baler]

Waiting for the new server

Will be rolling a troll shaman on red 2.0

[Jimjam]

Waiting for the new server

Will be rolling a troll shaman on red 2.0

Cazic or Inny?

[Nirgon]

will be playin this at the lake house

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/SnwNJ7e.gif

[Phaezed-Reality]

i really do hope rogean reaches out to the actual red community for staffing. I know there is some kinda anti red staff thing, or atleast there was. i remember being told noone from red would ever GM. I really hope that isn't the case for 2.0. I have think of a few good names including myself. but if not me. Hopefully its the other 2-3 people that can do it.

[Worry]

all joking aside, i can't see how or why rogean would put any effort to a PVP server after their community acted how they acted. just being honest....

but i'd love to see a new pvp server of any type so i hope tis true.

[AenorVZ]

Subscribed.

[Evets]

Lol eq pvp ... go play some UO or something if you like to kill and grief maybe

[Snortles Chortles]

concerned SiP

[Bigsham]

takes big sip and presses pvp button

see you in thurgadin !

[LazyHydras]

Soon™

[AenorVZ]

PvP range is 4 levels

Make it 5 levels. Elf the fuck up.

[Snortles Chortles]

concerned bump

[Arteker]

when red launched there was 600ish pop. and maintained for quite a while. The reasons it died was not due to pvp, not due to the playerbase(way less toxic than green/blue). It had everything to due with CSR situations and other server related issues. I don't hold it against rogean or staff. I see it as growing pains. red99 v2.0 needs to be staffed by red players. and no blue staff can come and do anything on it. It's that simple. and a few things need to be adressed mechanically.

Red top numbers was exactly 560 players for first month then droped like shit once tmo got canned and alot of people sniffed loot in the air on blue and Red died.

Red was a hydrance for the launch of velious and a total waste of rogean resources.

[Snortles Chortles]

try 700

[Arteker]

eq and pvp are not good combo.

u want pvp and u nolstagic then u have several other old emus with big populations to try out .

1: for total dick pvp u got uo vanilla server ,
2: for regular pvp -pve themepark u got a pre TOA Dark age of camelot server.
3: for mass pvp u got Warhammer online emus . aswell if u like bgs.
4: u want arenas then either u go to one of the wotlk mop or wod servers .
5: if u want to realy try out new experiences i suggest u SWG pre jedi patch.

and if u realy retarded and u want go insane there is a super fun moded server wich use age of conan

[Arteker]

try 700

to quote the alarti: prove it.

[Bigsham]

If youve never played red, you missed out

[Swish]

Red was a hydrance for the launch of velious and a total waste of rogean resources.

I bet it was real hard to put the same files up for two servers, you must know lots about programming a computer.

[Arteker]

I bet it was real hard to put the same files up for two servers, you must know lots about programming a computer.

i do not but i dont think u need to understand programmin than launching a aditional server gotta take a serious ammount of time and work to make it run smooth
Once the protocol has been understood, one can start to comprehend the payloads being sent. For a game server this is normally going to be related to the game: player statistics, lobby information and the like. As with the protocol, being able to make small changes and examining how it effects the end result is immensely helpful - for example, changing a single byte and seeing how it is reflected in the resultant packet. Making big changes can also be useful in determining what data is in certain blocks of the payload. At this stage it is useful to know tricks to cause errors, knowing what does and does not cause errors. For this project it was determined that for most responses the value 0x00000000 should be the first 4 bytes of the payload anything else would be treated as an error.

Take develoeprs working on more and more patches mto the launch of velious more work, and so on
idk maybe secrets could explain it better or enlight us.

[drackgon]

EQ doesn't have pvp.. Watch any melee "pvp' against another its people who can't pvp in any other format of any other video game. Running in circles to at some point out live the other. No skill needed, even less then PVE. Like someone said wanna pvp go try the other games built around pvp. Theres a reason you see pretty much 0 Streamers streaming EQ, and other then the few pvp events 3v3s by Meathook. You don't see it, bc its boring and anyone who thinks their good at it. Probably thinks last place ribbon means they won life bc mommy said so.

[Snortles Chortles]

sorry you got PvP’d

[kjs86z]

EQ doesn't have pvp.. Watch any melee "pvp' against another its people who can't pvp in any other format of any other video game. Running in circles to at some point out live the other. No skill needed, even less then PVE. Like someone said wanna pvp go try the other games built around pvp. Theres a reason you see pretty much 0 Streamers streaming EQ, and other then the few pvp events 3v3s by Meathook. You don't see it, bc its boring and anyone who thinks their good at it. Probably thinks last place ribbon means they won life bc mommy said so.

pretty true

The pvp MMO was Asherons Call

https://youtu.be/4hOZQI2K6I4?t=224

[Bondrake]

pretty true

The pvp MMO was Asherons Call

https://youtu.be/4hOZQI2K6I4?t=224

Were you playing that game while being cut by edgy PvP as well?

[drackgon]

yeah I won't lie I wish EQ had real pvp, but its like watching paint dry, players who can't hit enough key clicks fast enough, so can only pvp on EQ. Same people who die first in every RTS game, FPS, fighting games(crying that the games out balanced)

[Snortles Chortles]

18 hour wall stare simulation

[Bigsham]

EQ doesn't have pvp.. Watch any melee "pvp' against another its people who can't pvp in any other format of any other video game. Running in circles to at some point out live the other. No skill needed, even less then PVE. Like someone said wanna pvp go try the other games built around pvp. Theres a reason you see pretty much 0 Streamers streaming EQ, and other then the few pvp events 3v3s by Meathook. You don't see it, bc its boring and anyone who thinks their good at it. Probably thinks last place ribbon means they won life bc mommy said so.

ive seen a good melee like reebz or colgate kill people one after the other and not get touched, no skill?

this kid didnt play red

someone post monk botb where he shit all over that nihilum monk like it was a joke

better brush your teeth kids

[Swish]

Everyone ready for Kunark on green?

https://i.imgur.com/Ejstsdl.png

[Snortles Chortles]

maximum cringe 😬

[kjs86z]

Were you playing that game while being cut by edgy PvP as well?

i was a pk god in AC in the golden era of 99-04

[Snortles Chortles]

aka virgin

[reebz]

a good melee like reebz

untrue statement.

[Snortles Chortles]

NOT

[Bondrake]

NOT

Were you raised by only 1 parent?

[Twochain]

Everyone ready for Kunark on green?

https://i.imgur.com/Ejstsdl.png

What raid scene? Lmao i'm pretty sure Vulak hasn't been killed once since the dragons were rooted (Over a year now? Also can anyone confirm this?)


IMO, dump all red toons into blue, and than make a PVP Green. Red will never rebound. The only thing that would save PVP on p99 is a new server.

(Also, pvp in EQ kinda stinks, but it would definitely be fun to play end game content in a pvp enviroment)

[Nirgon]

Red will never rebound. The only thing that would save PVP on p99 is a new server.

[reebz]

Fact: people who say EverQuest PvP sucks are retarded and have never had good PvP. There is literally no other game in the world with pvp like the quest.

[strongNpretty]

Fact: people who say EverQuest PvP sucks are retarded and have never had good PvP. There is literally no other game in the world with pvp like the quest.

Your use of the word "retarded" as an adult is disappointing.

[Tankwipe]

Fact: people who say EverQuest PvP sucks are retarded and have never had good PvP. There is literally no other game in the world with pvp like the quest.

[Tankwipe]

Above post was supposed to have an excited old man in it. Please imagine it

[Phaezed-Reality]

Your use of the word "retarded" as an adult is disappointing.

assuming you are a grown man, atleast 30+. and being upset about the word retarded just shows how retarded you are.

[strongNpretty]

assuming you are a grown man, atleast 30+. and being upset about the word retarded just shows how retarded you are.

Correct assumption (the grown man part). Pretty sure i'm in the rants and flames section, and that i'm ranting and flaming correctly about the use of that word.

Go log back in now, your break is up.

[imperiouskitten]

Fact: people who say EverQuest PvP sucks are retarded and have never had good PvP. There is literally no other game in the world with pvp like the quest.

[imperiouskitten]

Were you raised by only 1 parent?

Have you seen him?

[strongNpretty]

assuming you are a grown man, atleast 30+. and being upset about the word retarded just shows how retarded you are.

However you now have my full attention- Would you like to talk some things out? Let's discuss why that word shouldn't be used as an adult in 2020 shall we? Lots of things play a role in your sperm health.... Many things are in your control. However many are also out of your control.. Don't act like you are in full control of laying down a Michael Jordan everytime you blow. You gonna get a Dennis Rodman every now and then.

TLDR- Don't act like Roulette is a game of skill....

[Swish]

assuming you are a grown man, atleast 30+. and being upset about the word retarded just shows how retarded you are.

[Snortles Chortles]

merely pretending

[Bigsham]

What raid scene? Lmao i'm pretty sure Vulak hasn't been killed once since the dragons were rooted (Over a year now? Also can anyone confirm this?)


IMO, dump all red toons into blue, and than make a PVP Green. Red will never rebound. The only thing that would save PVP on p99 is a new server.

(Also, pvp in EQ kinda stinks, but it would definitely be fun to play end game content in a pvp enviroment)

Cool post but they arent doing anything so all these threads that suggest all this shit go right in the garbage where they belong, next to your everquest chars

[Tankwipe]

big mad

[Twochain]

Cool post but they arent doing anything so all these threads that suggest all this shit go right in the garbage where they belong, next to your everquest chars

dam u got me


Fact: people who say EverQuest PvP sucks are retarded and have never had good PvP. There is literally no other game in the world with pvp like the quest.

No u. EQOA on ps2 had better pvp than EQ. Jousting is dumb. Clickies out the ass? Dumb. Let alone the fact that a good amount of classes are just awful at pvp.

[Swish]

EQOA on ps2

is dumb.

https://i.imgur.com/THTrBwX.gif

[reznor_]

LOL at the concept of everquest PVP being good. You want to talk about being good at PvP, pick an MMO besides classic everquest with class imbalance and jousting.

The notion that one is good at everquest PvP is a farce.

Inb4 the 60-70 red shitlords that exist tell me they're gonna hunt me down IRL and bang my mom.

[strongNpretty]

Hahahahaha ^^^

[imperiouskitten]

merely pretending

prove it 1nce

[Swish]

LOL at the concept of everquest PVP being good. You want to talk about being good at PvP, pick an MMO besides classic everquest with class imbalance and jousting.

The notion that one is good at everquest PvP is a farce.

Inb4 the 60-70 red shitlords that exist tell me they're gonna hunt me down IRL and bang my mom.

https://i.imgur.com/pl1m8K2.jpg

[Ripqozko]

Red sucks , even red folks don’t play red

[Baler]

Hey Just starting out on red, it seems like a good time to enjoy classic everquest in a pvp setting!With only a few hours a day to play I really enjoy being able to experience all that red has to offer. It's been a lot of fun, looking forward to all the new players on red.
*smiley face*

[Dirkdaring]

This game looks promising


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s82xJnx1EY

[Snortles Chortles]

barf

[kaev]

barf

Spaceballs was Mel Brooks' worst movie, discuss.

[reznor_]

Red sucks , even red folks don’t play red

[Snortles Chortles]

Concerned SiP

[SiP]

https://i.imgur.com/crPwCvS.jpg

[Smedy]

Snortles Chortles asks question about red99

Snortles Chortles is banned

welp shit guys, that's that

[Luigi]

See you in OOT with my bard box

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/crPwCvS.jpg

[Googi]

considering blue

be happy red players dont consider blue, you are not ready for us

[AenorVZ]

Inb4 the 60-70 red shitlords that exist tell me they're gonna hunt me down IRL and bang my mom.

Is she hot?

Posted this elsewhere but I'll add it to this classic thread. They should open a test server with classic TZ or SZ rules simultaneously with the release of Kunark on Green. It would save zone crashes in TT as hundreds descend for their Seb keys and it's impermanent. You'd never see me on Green for as long as test stayed up.

[Snortles ban appeal]

SiP

[Shac]

Why doesn't everyone just turn their books in on Green and boom thats your PvP server

[Nuggie]

Because PvP in EQ is garbage and P99's PvP community has been hyper-toxic to itself. Hence Red is dead and blue maintains a healthy competitive population.

[Snortles ban appeal]

sorry you got YT’d

[Kohedron]

The thing you nosepicking nerds need to understand is, Green is also pvp. You are just fighting with a pen instead of a sword.

[Oddbaal]

Because PvP in EQ is garbage and P99's PvP community has been hyper-toxic to itself. Hence Red is dead and blue maintains a healthy competitive population.

Aye, but all those years not many knew about this project. Now a lot more people do. Can we all agree on that? Bends itself to logic that MORE people would play a new red.

[Snortles ban appeal]

my necromancer here knows what’s up

[azxten]

Because PvP in EQ is garbage and P99's PvP community has been hyper-toxic to itself. Hence Red is dead and blue maintains a healthy competitive population.

False.

P99 PvP died out because the ruleset appealed to no one.

They went FFA PvP with coin loot. A non-classic ruleset. What is the problem with this?

FFA PvP players want item loot. They're griefers to the max. With only coin loot they quickly get bored.

Coin loot PvP players were more "casual PvP" players who came from team servers. They want a sense of community and safety with some occasional PvP risk. With FFA PvP they quickly got bored.

They could have either done FFA item loot or teams coin loot but they went with some bastardized non-classic hybrid.

The best ruleset for P99 would be teams PvP with a non-classic mechanic to stop cross team cooperation. Teams live was the only PvP to get more than 1 server due to popularity and it only became unpopular because top raiding guilds cross teamed to gain an advantage defeating the purpose of the server and they wouldn't do anything to stop it. Cross team healers you couldn't attack, full classes, etc.

[Israel Adesanya]

https://i.imgur.com/crPwCvS.jpg

[Ripqozko]

Pvp on Eq sucks, hope that helps.

[Chortles Ban Appeal]

https://i.imgur.com/crPwCvS.jpg

[Phaezed-Reality]

EQ pvp is some of the most dynamic pvp I have played.... it's far from sucky. it just requires tweaking and some decent thought when GMing it. you can't apply blues PNP to it. or you will sink the server.

[Toad1]

No pnp policy or staff involvement imo

[AenorVZ]

Coin loot PvP players were more "casual PvP" players who came from team servers. They want a sense of community and safety with some occasional PvP risk. With FFA PvP they quickly got bored.

They could have either done FFA item loot or teams coin loot but they went with some bastardized non-classic hybrid.

If any staff are following this, I'd like to point out a common misconception about the two classic rule servers. People from Sullon like to think they were hardcore because of the absence of a level cap for PvP, but the reality is that 60% of the server were evil team and they had the entire continent of Kunark to themselves. I played on Vallon Zek and Sullon Zek from launch and I can tell you that on Vallon Zek, PvP was raging from the moment you logged on until the moment you logged off. You could go through an entire 12 hour session on Sullon Zek and never see a member of another team.

I believe Azxten is correct that the devs went astray by having a non-classic ruleset for Red. I'm still hoping to test my proposed city-based ruleset on Red before the end of the year. I've spoken about it briefly with Galach. However, if we want to say classic rulesets are the only way to do EQ PvP right, I suggest the following compromise:

Make it Sullon Zek deity based teams, but don't have Kunark open at launch. Let it go through a complete classic progression just like Green. That way 60-70% of the server won't pick evil team so they can hide out in Kunark and never see a player from another team then log into the forums to tell us all what PvP badasses they are.

[Chortles Ban Appeal]

idk if teams is the best approach
Rallos Zek item loot 4 levels range remains an intriguing ruleset id personally love to see
FFA PvP is silly, red with the initial 8 level range for example was ripe for grief
Need a reasonable PvP level range and maybe a custom way to deal with out of level range cheese in 2020

[Bardp1999]

https://i.imgur.com/2YtNoz2.jpg

[Toad1]

If any staff are following this


HAHAHA Aenor so dumb literally garbage posts for years

[strongNpretty]

https://i.imgur.com/2YtNoz2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QYER1Sz.jpg

[strongNpretty]

Fucked that one up.... As you were gentlemen....

[Chortles Ban Appeal]

:p

[Toad1]

the liquor works for both sides jim

[Tunabros]

Pvp on Eq sucks, hope that helps.

It can be fun if you got a guild
But again its not fun to get ganked
only fun to be the ganker B)
gank quad activated!

[AenorVZ]

If any staff are following this


HAHAHA Aenor so dumb literally garbage posts for years

This guy hid in Kunark and never saw a newt.

[Chortles Ban Appeal]

tomato king banned on red too for afk exploiting skill ups in ocean
(LOL)

[greatdane]

People make the mistake of thinking that what worked twenty years ago will still work. A teamless server with itemloot will be dead inside two months. Remember that Everquest featured only one such server, and this was mainly to attract the Ultima Online crowd. If it had been more popular even then, they'd have made more itemloot servers. They didn't.

Even when they launched Sullon Zek, the penal colony of EQ whose sole purpose was to isolate the most belligerent and savage players, it was sans itemloot. It was known already by then that itemloot didn't work so well in a game where it can take months to obtain an item and where some classes are completely helpless on their own.

I'd say that a hypothetical new PvP server would need teams as well. Without teams, it basically just becomes a guildwars server that only really works for those who are in one of the big guilds. A teams ruleset will give players some breathing space as there will be places where they can relax and not worry about getting ganked over and over. It also adds an element of politics to the server, something that's missing when the entire world is just a non-stop warzone which doesn't suit EQ's design.

The teams shouldn't be based on class or race, though. That leads to unbalanced teams and weird PvE. I'm inclined to say that there should simply be Team A, Team B and Team C, and you choose which to join upon creating a character. Give each starting character three books, and by level 6 or whenever PvP becomes enabled, they must turn one in to the Priest of Discord and choose a team in order to continue gaining XP.

[Fame]

Good troll lol

Rogean got us again!

[AenorVZ]

The teams shouldn't be based on class or race, though. That leads to unbalanced teams and weird PvE. I'm inclined to say that there should simply be Team A, Team B and Team C, and you choose which to join upon creating a character. Give each starting character three books, and by level 6 or whenever PvP becomes enabled, they must turn one in to the Priest of Discord and choose a team in order to continue gaining XP.

Not bad.

[BiG SiP]

im willing to settle for teams

[BiG SiP]

coofs in ur general direction

[Tankwipe]

coofs in ur general direction

can i be on ur team bro

[BiG SiP]

double team

[Tankwipe]

https://i.imgur.com/qRlRAQK.jpg

[BiG SiP]

https://i.imgur.com/DuiwcFF.jpg

[Tankwipe]

yes that too

[BiG SiP]

https://i.imgur.com/crPwCvS.jpg

[Gustoo]

Just discovered this thread I am really disappointed I've been out of the loop for so long.

Good things coming asap right?

[BiG SiP]

soOn

[BiG SiP]

forgotten

[BiG SiP]

🥵

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/BNHbWiN.gif

[BiG SiP]

1 blocked message
sip

[magnetaress]

1 blocked message
sip

one user posted that they got 1 blocked message

[Caleb_Crawdad]

People make the mistake of thinking that what worked twenty years ago will still work. A teamless server with itemloot will be dead inside two months. Remember that Everquest featured only one such server, and this was mainly to attract the Ultima Online crowd. If it had been more popular even then, they'd have made more itemloot servers. They didn't.

Even when they launched Sullon Zek, the penal colony of EQ whose sole purpose was to isolate the most belligerent and savage players, it was sans itemloot. It was known already by then that itemloot didn't work so well in a game where it can take months to obtain an item and where some classes are completely helpless on their own.

I'd say that a hypothetical new PvP server would need teams as well. Without teams, it basically just becomes a guildwars server that only really works for those who are in one of the big guilds. A teams ruleset will give players some breathing space as there will be places where they can relax and not worry about getting ganked over and over. It also adds an element of politics to the server, something that's missing when the entire world is just a non-stop warzone which doesn't suit EQ's design.

The teams shouldn't be based on class or race, though. That leads to unbalanced teams and weird PvE. I'm inclined to say that there should simply be Team A, Team B and Team C, and you choose which to join upon creating a character. Give each starting character three books, and by level 6 or whenever PvP becomes enabled, they must turn one in to the Priest of Discord and choose a team in order to continue gaining XP.

Great post! MOST players do not want item loot. I always appreciated no item loot when I played on VZ and SZ. You explore more, and fight more.

Team servers were the best! Vallon Zek turned into guild wars because of all the cross teaming. I’m sure Tallon Zek was the same way. I wish they had locked teams like Sullon Zek. I had the most fun on that server. Why couldn’t they use the same format? I thought all 3 teams (evil, good, neutral) held their own raiding and fighting. I didn’t notice a big imbalance. I think Evil just had the biggest pop.

[magnetaress]

Item loot is OK and fun in classic, People got turned off by it later on. Because there's clever ways to game the system in classic.

If we roll out a new server item loot should be there for like the first 1-2 months for sure. or whatever the classic timeline is.

If they want to do a VZ/TZ box thats fine, they can still do some classic timeline stuff from RZ.

[Gustoo]

Item loot is not very compatible with sullon zek ruleset. That is why sullon zek ruleset is the only ruleset that non item loot makes sense in.

Otherwise, item loot makes the game much more fun. A lot of problems with item loot on rallos were a result of later exploits such as epics on low level rogues, and the earliest exploit was when deleveled characters kept their original level skills.

The level skills I think you can keep up to +2 or +4 levels worth of skills? for this server you should only be allowed your own level skill values so deleveling has no benefit.

Great old tricks like using thurgadin DD casting robes on low level toons is also easy to remove via level requirement.

High level no drop gear, add level requirement.

It means if you want to roll around like a battle tank as a level 20 twink you are fully lootable.

The tradeable item economy on rallos was a billion times better than other servers I cross servered a good amount during this time.

When you're going in rags you just go deeper in rags. If being a melee is unfair to you can level up in full banded non stop and you literally lose 20pp per death maximum.

I dunno guys trying to kill twinks on live or at least seeing them auto run and become naked piece by piece is the most classic experience ever. All those lifetime shadowknight unrest murderers will either get ganked or have to play smarter and safer and it makes low level game a lot of fun.

OR just like everyone of you softy turds trying to go no item loot, it should be sullon rules to just acknowledge that low level is garbage and this also keeps twinks from being OP in PVP because a level 50 or 60 can roll up and take a dump on them.

[BiG SiP]

whatever PvP ruleset daddy decides i will play

[Bardp1999]

Posting in his own thread from an alt account - pathetic

[strongNpretty]

whatever PvP ruleset daddy decides i will play

Your signature has been jammin to the beat of my current audio track.. I dig it... Still watchin him jam out..

[Tunabros]

Your signature has been jammin to the beat of my current audio track.. I dig it... Still watchin him jam out..

Moms Spaghetti

[BiG SiP]

https://i.imgur.com/oJDEtNGh.jpg

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[magnetaress]

no need to wait on a new pvp server, get some practice on red, 90% group exp bonus, bring your friends

[sydbarrett25]

Posting in his own thread from an alt account - pathetic

His accounts got banned. Now a main account not an alt

[AenorVZ]

https://i.imgur.com/8aqUGtI.gif

Never fear, they're on it.

[Phaezed-Reality]

a properly staffed red 2.0 would be god like. cannot wait.

[BiG SiP]

His accounts got banned. Now a main account not an alt

don’t entertain my permanent butt-blasted fans

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[Swish]

daily bump

[BiG SiP]

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[magnetaress]

daily bump

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[magnetaress]

daily bump

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[AenorVZ]

Daily bump.

[raski]

*Crickets*

[Tunabros]

imagine posting on your banned account's thread (LOL)

[Ripqozko]

imagine posting on your banned account's thread (LOL)

Ascending is a great honor on p99 forums. Sorry you havent had the experience yet.

[sydbarrett25]

imagine posting on your banned account's thread (LOL)

Sip for my homies

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[magnetaress]

my banded acounts were totally deleted and nuked off the forums, nothign compared to lulz many minor bans

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[BiG SiP]

turkey bump

[sydbarrett25]

Lots of bumps

[imperiouskitten]

bumpier than lulzes back, chest and face

[AenorVZ]

Pumps and a bump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_qTRDbXno

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[Kohedron]

We're too busy celebrating training and griefing, try again next decade

[adichi]

daily bump

[sydbarrett25]

Another bump for the

[imperiouskitten]

Backne bump

[imperiouskitten]

Make that brown man backne**

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[goldlush]

Hi

[strongNpretty]

Hi

Hi

[sydbarrett25]

Mid-day bump

[Zoolander]

how does it feel like creating posts like this one for 6 years now?

[BiG SiP]

Rogean made a statement
I am following up
You mad?

[Zoolander]

Rogean made a statement
I am following up
You mad?

its not the first time staff made statements like this..u know what happened after. =)

red is ded.

[BiG SiP]

I’m not going to stop following up until my tkt is resolved

[AenorVZ]

how does it feel like creating posts like this one for 6 years now?

Hi. You're a bloob. Please post in bloob threads.

[BiG SiP]

https://i.imgur.com/cI9BUKo.jpg

[Zoolander]

try me

[Tunabros]

need new red asap

[imperiouskitten]

https://i.imgur.com/cI9BUKo.jpg

me irl

[BiG SiP]

https://i.imgur.com/wAVmkIZ.jpg

[sydbarrett25]

Lmao, ^

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[sydbarrett25]

Late night bump

[Caleb_Crawdad]

I’m not going to stop following up until my tkt is resolved

Lol. Can’t wait for the Grand Opening myself.

[Kohedron]

Staff is too busy trying to stop the bald twitch streamers from ruining the fun on Green

Oh wait, they aren't stopping that. Nvm.

[Tunabros]

Staff is too busy trying to stop the bald twitch streamers from ruining the fun on Green

Oh wait, they aren't stopping that. Nvm.

when the staff gonna drop red on us

[BiG SiP]

:p

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[sydbarrett25]

Pity bump

[BiG SiP]

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[imperiouskitten]

bump for sad misanthrope recovery

[BiG SiP]

daily bump

[sydbarrett25]

Weekly bump?

[Tunabros]

bump because it looks fun