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Entee
06-24-2020, 10:37 PM
I imagine there will suddenly be 2-3x more Monks running around, maybe a few more Necros also?

Other than that though, what kind of class population changes will there likely be?

Cen
06-24-2020, 10:47 PM
Those two get the biggest population increase. Rogues, Enchanters and Warriors tend to increase at Kunark also proportionally.

Bardp1999
06-24-2020, 11:12 PM
Hybrids will suffer greatly from no one wanting to group with them 55-60

Jibartik
06-24-2020, 11:17 PM
Hybrids will suffer greatly from no one wanting to group with them 55-60

Thats ok they'll be to busy clicking their guises in the mirror still.

DMN
06-24-2020, 11:33 PM
Rogue large increase
Monk large increase
Warrior moderate increase
necromancer moderate increase
Shaman moderate increase
SK/pal/ranger large decrease
Wizard moderate decrease
Magican moderate decrease
Druid moderate decrease
Clerics slight decrease
Enchanters slight decrease
Bard slight decrease

Danth
06-24-2020, 11:36 PM
Hybrids will suffer greatly from no one wanting to group with them 55-60

All in a rush to invite those iksar monks that have an even worse penalty than the average hybrid has.

When Kunark opened on P99 class breakdown didn't change all that much other than the increase to monk population.

cd288
06-24-2020, 11:48 PM
All in a rush to invite those iksar monks that have an even worse penalty than the average hybrid has.

When Kunark opened on P99 class breakdown didn't change all that much other than the increase to monk population.

Isn’t their penalty the same as the hybrids’ (20% racial 20% class, for a total of 40%)? Not worse. And definitely not worse than a Troll or Ogre SK

DMN
06-24-2020, 11:51 PM
Isn’t their penalty the same as the hybrids’ (20% racial 20% class, for a total of 40%)? Not worse. And definitely not worse than a Troll or Ogre SK

The penalties are multiplicative, not additive .So not 1.2+1.2, but 1.2 x1.2.

Cen
06-25-2020, 01:07 AM
Isn’t their penalty the same as the hybrids’ (20% racial 20% class, for a total of 40%)? Not worse. And definitely not worse than a Troll or Ogre SK

20% Race combined with 20% Class penalty equals 44%, not 40%.

The penalties mean each level requires 20% more experience, but they multiply, so you require 20% more for your race, then its recalculated to be 20% more then that new value which is 44%

Baler
06-25-2020, 03:10 AM
shamans. hundreds of awful shamans as far as the eye can see.

Iksar is an OFC, necro/monk. yup

Wallicker
06-25-2020, 06:31 AM
Don’t forget about the bards!

demokatt
06-25-2020, 09:05 AM
Oh god yes there will be bards all over the big outdoor zones :-) when do they increase aoe song numbers?

cd288
06-25-2020, 10:04 AM
20% Race combined with 20% Class penalty equals 44%, not 40%.

The penalties mean each level requires 20% more experience, but they multiply, so you require 20% more for your race, then its recalculated to be 20% more then that new value which is 44%

Ok, is that not still lower than an Ogre or Troll SK though?

cd288
06-25-2020, 10:05 AM
Oh god yes there will be bards all over the big outdoor zones :-) when do they increase aoe song numbers?

It's already been increased to the 25 mob cap.

I agree I think Bards will see an increase in pop

drackgon
06-25-2020, 10:14 AM
Monks,Necros,Shmmys Iskars will be the big alts. But ofc Warriors/clerics/rogues will see an uptick imo.

Danth
06-25-2020, 01:04 PM
Ok, is that not still lower than an Ogre or Troll SK though?

'Course it is. Never claimed otherwise, just that it's greater than the typical hybrid so many groups like to complain about.

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As noted before I don't recall Kunark having much effect on class breakdown on P1999 other than increasing the Monk population somewhat, Shaman too maybe to a lesser degree but Shamans weren't rare here in 2010 to begin with so that's not as substantial. Likewise, the Velious class changes like removal of class penalties didn't significantly alter class breakdowns either. It'll be interesting to watch and see if "Green" follows the same trends.

Danth

Selene
06-25-2020, 03:37 PM
Why would hybrids go down, just because of the xp penalty? I would imagine with all the nice melee tools that hybrids would also get a bump in their dps

demokatt
06-25-2020, 04:33 PM
Why did hybrids get penalty in the first place? Its not like they are better at leveling than say a shaman. Were they considered that powerful?

Jimjam
06-25-2020, 04:37 PM
Why did hybrids get penalty in the first place? Its not like they are better at leveling than say a shaman. Were they considered that powerful?

its a dnd copy paste.

Trexller
06-25-2020, 05:32 PM
Every class will see an increase in population. Even more players will show up than did at Green launch.

People who didnt like/learn classic EQ back in the day, are waiting to play kunark on green. People who leveled up and burned out on classic are waiting to play kunark.

Then the 5 classes that iksar can be will all be made as alts (in varying numbers) just because active players wanna play iksar.

Field of bone is gonna be the 9th circle of hell in the first week. Basically folks /listing for scaled wolf pup spawns.

Good times coming!

Swish
06-25-2020, 06:56 PM
Field of bone is gonna be the 9th circle of hell in the first week. Basically folks /listing for scaled wolf pup spawns.

Good times coming!

Go to LOIO just outside the city, usually quiet(er) for that first push. Swamp isn't bad either but there's usually a deep red mob scattered around.

kaluppo
06-25-2020, 07:57 PM
Every class will see an increase in population. Even more players will show up than did at Green launch.
Good times coming!

Agreed. I for one have stopped playing green because I am sick of having no where to solo my Druid from 40-50. It's not much better for my Cleric either as good groups are hard to come by.

But once Kunark arrives and I can go to Dreadlands, BW and KC then it's back on track for both solo and grouping.

Baler
06-25-2020, 08:24 PM
guilds will be leveling mages for COTH

How many useless mages will be parked at trak for the rest of their career...

Tywulf
06-25-2020, 09:42 PM
guilds will be leveling mages for COTH

How many useless mages will be parked at trak for the rest of their career...


Hell and I thought the fight down to Trak was half the fun.

DMN
06-25-2020, 10:09 PM
Every class will see an increase in population. Even more players will show up than did at Green launch.

People who didnt like/learn classic EQ back in the day, are waiting to play kunark on green. People who leveled up and burned out on classic are waiting to play kunark.

Then the 5 classes that iksar can be will all be made as alts (in varying numbers) just because active players wanna play iksar.

Field of bone is gonna be the 9th circle of hell in the first week. Basically folks /listing for scaled wolf pup spawns.

Good times coming!


I'm pretty sure he was not talking about about basic numbers but more class popularity/demographics. It would have been an incredibly pointless question otherwise.

Jimjam
06-26-2020, 06:06 AM
Hell and I thought the fight down to Trak was half the fun.

Many p1999ers actually strongly dislike Everquest, and will go to great lengths to avoid actually playing the game.

Clears are treated with abhorrence, levelling is a min maxing affair of quest spamming followed by PLing and the bottom line is scoring the pixels.