How good is Tinkering? Enough to go Gnome for Necro?

[VincentVolaju]

So I'm going to try out a Necro and am undecided on whether to go Gnome, Dark Elf, or Erudite.

So far I am leaning towards Gnome because of Tinkering, but not sure if that's enough reason to go Gnome over the other races?

Dark Elf look the coolest imo, and get hide (not sure how good that is?). Erudite has the highest starting Int, and like mentioned, Gnomes get Tinkering.

Is there anything I am missing?

What race did some of you guys choose for your Necro, and what made you choose that race?

Thanks!

[Cen]

Im a fan of Dark Elves for looks but the truth is, for a necro in particular, before Iksar, Gnome is probably best. You get the wallvision while sitting, you get the super upgrade to hide in feign death, better faction across the board, in addition to Tinkering. Stats wise, gnomes dump wisdom for other stats, giving you a stronger stat aggregate over Dark Elf too.

Dark Elves lose all their advantages as Necros, so a Gnome is a better character all around.

The *only* thing a Dark Elf can do over a Gnome is use hide as an easier charm break for charm undead, which is extremely niche and has a low success rate.

[Natewest1987]

No. Not really.

BUT. If that’s what it takes for you to play a race you’re want to play, then sure.
You’re not going to get many answers outside of either “no, iksar or die, and “play what you want to look at”

I think the lower visual perspective of a gnome gives you a much different experience of a play through, than a taller race. Especially with pet classes. That alone is worth it to me.

[Meiva]

the look through the wall is worth it. most gnomes won't touch tinkering which is a shame. there are useful pieces even now. EB items and stalking probes for raiding. i've never end-game tinkered but i think velious comes with some neat new recipes.

Gnomes are very much lacking in strength. So much so it may be a fair argument to dump a good bit of your starter points in to that stat. It's easier to make up the INT than to raise your Str with gear. Maybe there some high Str peices you can find, but I'd rather utilize that slot for MR, HP or INT. Probably in that priority order. I wouldn't pay no mind to those guys telling you the min-max is starter points in sta and agi or whatever bullcrap the wiki might claim. What you will get more use out of us being able to carry more than 200plat while solo farming giants as a necromancer without becoming encumbered.

Gnomes also look the handsomest.

[Videri]

Just don't think of Tinkering as a way to make money. Tinkering won't make you money unless you put in thousands of plat to get good at making Rebreathers, then sell tons of Rebreathers. On this server, there are probably already many people who have done that.

I'd suggest picking whatever race captures your imagination/interest more. If you don't pick Gnome, you can still just buy a spyglass and a couple stalking probes and call it a win.

[Swish]

I wouldn't recommend tinkering as a basis for playing a gnome necro.

I'll leave this video here and you can help yourself make the right choice -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopIJ21NqIM

[Ivory]

Looking through walls is insanely useful.... for everything... all the time....

Want to check a camp to see if it's spawned? No need to walk around, just gnome peepers it.

Want to watch a pull without endangering yourself? No problem, just gnome peepers it.

Want to sit and med but know right when something is up? Just gnome peepers it!!

Need to split a room and target things in the back for lulls? GNOMES PEEPERS IT!

Lost in a maze and trying to find your way out? Gnomes peepers got you!!

Mob lost and not sure if a train is coming? Gnome peepers got you covered!!

I use gnome peepers allllllll the time. Just as casually as other races would look around the room, I'm looking into the next rooms as I go so I'm aware of a much wider area than anyone else.

I watch for trains in weird pathing zones (permafrost, lguk, cazic).... I can see where the group goes if I get split up somehow... I can tell who is sitting at a zone line....

I use it so much I feel naked without it now (and I prefer to be in gnome form instead of skeleton since peeping walls is usually more useful than extra mana regen).

[Baler]

If you have to make a gnome, make a gnome mage.
level it up and park it at PoM entrance in Ntov, so long as your main's guild isn't raid banned. You can sell CoTH's to PoM Entrance. Gnome can tuck behind a 'wall' and not agro pathers I'm told.

If you plan on rolling a necro, roll an Iksar necro when kunark comes out.

[Dolalin]

I don't get the obsession with dark elves. They're cliche and stupid looking, did you walk in on one with your mom and now you have a fetish or something? It has to come from somewhere :D

[Nocht]

I don't get the obsession with dark elves. They're cliche and stupid looking, did you walk in on one with your mom and now you have a fetish or something? It has to come from somewhere :D

Comments like this and people wonder why this forum is garbage. Oh nice edit btw! Wonder why you changed it?

[Dolalin]

I changed it to offend you as much as possible. Dark elf lovers are on the same level as furries.

[Cen]

I changed it to offend you as much as possible. Dark elf lovers are on the same level as furries.

Even a furry can probably tell you youre wrong on that. Dark elves look like spooky vampire people. Few people cosplay as them. Also I heard an anecdote from one guy who was sent home for blackface for doing so (the dawnforgecast guy).

If you think a spooky vampire guy is a cool looking character its not much. I think a lot of fantasy races are neat. Though I always like races that don't mimic human bipedal with a different skin like a cool insect character who skitters around or something but games rarely try that

[Nocht]

I changed it to offend you as much as possible. Dark elf lovers are on the same level as furries.

Good for you. I don't care who likes what. Its your trashy attitude that I find abhorrent.

But by all means keep going. Offend me.

[Dorrel]

I've mained a gnome necro on live and blue. Gnome vision (being able to see through walls) is a plus that is sometimes overlooked.

As for tinkering, you wont get rich, but you can make some handy items. Stalking probes are good for pulling/scouting, pop out an eye, FD, and go take a look.

For a necro they become really handy because you can lifetap them. Low on health? Don't want to attack another mob to get your health back? Pop out an eye and hit it with Bond of Death.

They can also be "hammered" off of when they're isn't anyone around to /duel.