Class/Race combo you would be most impressed to see at max level?

[Ladylag]

So I'm a big noob, never been anywhere near the level cap. I had this conversation.

Wife: "Hey my friend plays on project 1999!"
Me: "Really? Wow! What is his character?"
Her: "Level 50 ranger."
Me: "Holy shit that's so hardcore that's the hardest class to level I think!"

Then I was like, wait what is the HARDEST possible class/race combo to get to 50? Like, gnome paladin or something? What could you see running around at max level that would make you flip your lid?

[Fammaden]

Nothing, its all been done already.

Troll SK is the "hardest" (most time consuming) by the numbers.

[Ladylag]

Nothing, its all been done already.

Aw, that's the most disappointing response ever. My balloon is popped.

[Fammaden]

Ok actually, gnome warrior is a pretty good one. Not many warriors of the weaker races at all but especially gnome. So many just go ogre or troll for warrior.

Some of the less popular rogues race are pretty rare too, gnome or dark elf especially.

Ranger isn't particularly rare though and they are pretty limited in race choice so there's no surprising combos with it. There's no gnome/halfling paladins/hybrids in this timeline.

[Vexenu]

Human Wizards and Necros
Wood Elf and Dark Elf Warriors
Erudite Clerics
Human Monks (post-Kunark)
Iksar Shaman

Love seeing people who say, "IDGAF about your min/max" and go pure FashionQuest all the way to 60.

[Octopath]

Erudite sk is coming soon. Will be rare and underrated

[Stickyfingers]

Erudite sk is coming soon. Will be rare and underrated

Can't wait!

[DMN]

Half elf druid.

[douglas1999]

Doesn't have to be the most xp required, you could also do it on sheer unfitness of a race to be a particular class. Gnome warrior comes to mind, specifically female gnome warrior. There are reeeeeally not a lot of those running around at lvl 50

[DMN]

Doesn't have to be the most xp required, you could also do it on sheer unfitness of a race to be a particular class. Gnome warrior comes to mind, specifically female gnome warrior. There are reeeeeally not a lot of those running around at lvl 50

As pathetic as a 50+ warriors potential is as a solo'r, gnomes are, by far, the best for it.

[solleks]

Night elf Mohawk

[kaev]

Max level requires only time, so not impressive really. No matter how you gimp your char or how badly you play it friends can carry you along (in some cases might require very good friends). I mean, this is fun and games here, if you're playing to impress I'm not understanding.

[Tywulf]

Gnome Warrior..

I LOL now but I remember a Gnome tank back on E'ci in the early days.. one of the first I ever saw in full Crafted. We'd add him in anytime we had a spot and he was looking.. really great guy and could play that lil tank like nobodies business.

Race/Class < Player skill.

[branamil]

Halfling Paladin

Yes there are some on the server

[Valrok]

Gnome Warrior..

I LOL now but I remember a Gnome tank back on E'ci in the early days.. one of the first I ever saw in full Crafted. We'd add him in anytime we had a spot and he was looking.. really great guy and could play that lil tank like nobodies business.

Race/Class < Player skill.

[Baler]

without outside help I'd bet on gnome warrior but it's not a good enough reason to create one.

However I have seen a dark elf warrior twinked to the teeth in velious raid gear tank better than everyone else so... Just how max level are we talking here?

[Snortles Chortles]

employed/well adjusted p1999er

[Cen]

Halfling Paladin

Yes there are some on the server

There's not. Not even on Blue now. :p

Unless you quest the halfling 2 minute mask quest which on a paladin would be damn unlikely.

[Kich867]

Half elf druid.

I played a half-elf druid on Red up to 58 or so, thought they looked cool, still regret not being a halfling, would've been so much better T_T.

[Soothsayer]

As a level 50 gnome warrior myself, I can say that there really ain't much of a difference between any of the races with good gear and buffs. Having a little extra health as an ogre is cool I guess, but how many fights are decided by a single digit percentage difference in hp? As a bonus, you can pull in any zone and wall vision helps tremendously, AND your starting dexterity is high, which is helpful for weapon procs.

Healers I've played with say they can't tell any difference between me and any other race. Moral of the story is that you can excel as any race.

[Bigsham]

gnome war #1

[Jimjam]

I like the warrior trainer in Freeport's Innoruuk guild.

I almost spaffed when I realised the implication this npc was a barbarian warrior of Innoruuk.

I also like the half elf wizards in the karanas (bandits), and the halfling that fraudulently claims to be a paladin outside the Church of Mischief.

[Izmael]

Has to be Human Druid...
By the time you hit 50+ you're probably sick of looking at it, few would push to 55, let alone 60.

[Kich867]

As a level 50 gnome warrior myself, I can say that there really ain't much of a difference between any of the races with good gear and buffs. Having a little extra health as an ogre is cool I guess, but how many fights are decided by a single digit percentage difference in hp? As a bonus, you can pull in any zone and wall vision helps tremendously, AND your starting dexterity is high, which is helpful for weapon procs.

Healers I've played with say they can't tell any difference between me and any other race. Moral of the story is that you can excel as any race.

For sure, but your starting race drastically impacts how much easier things are for you. For instance on my warrior, if I were a troll, the whole solo thing would be significantly easier / faster. I'd hit noticeably harder, I'd have more life, and I'd regen to max in half the time (~50% to 100% takes like 25 minutes, I'd kill for that to take 12.5 minutes).

[Jimjam]

Axe of the Slayers and bandaging my dude!

[branamil]

There's not. Not even on Blue now. :p

Unless you quest the halfling 2 minute mask quest which on a paladin would be damn unlikely.

THey deleted Frodo? :(

[Kich867]

Axe of the Slayers and bandaging my dude!

Eventually haha, I gotta be able to solo the guy that drops that and I don't think I can until closer to 40 T_T..

[JohnT88]

Wood Elf Warrior confirmed.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276544269626376194/709641518884978698/unknown.png

[Keebz]

gnome war #1

I'd say DE warrior edges it out. Worse stats and worse faction.

Stats-wise HIE/ERU Paladins have to be up there.

But for me, choosing a deity with needlessly bad faction is the single most badass/impressive thing. Innoruuk Enchanter? Hell yea. Bertox Cleric? Runnin' from the law in your own city as class without invis? Fucking sweet.

[Jimjam]

Half Elf warrior of Innoruuk is a nightmare for faction.

Elves hate you, dark elves hate you. Everyone hates you.

And it is from this hate you derive your power!

[Jimjam]

Eventually haha, I gotta be able to solo the guy that drops that and I don't think I can until closer to 40 T_T..

Arrow kite him. He is a nightmare when wielding the axe as it procs a lot and makes the fight MUCH harder.

[Soothsayer]

For sure, but your starting race drastically impacts how much easier things are for you. For instance on my warrior, if I were a troll, the whole solo thing would be significantly easier / faster. I'd hit noticeably harder, I'd have more life, and I'd regen to max in half the time (~50% to 100% takes like 25 minutes, I'd kill for that to take 12.5 minutes).

Without tools like fungi tunic, warrior soloing is pretty brutal as any race in classic. I haven't done any parsing, but the additional strength you get as a large race doesn't seem to substantially affect overall damage output much (I had an ogre warrior on blue before rerolling around level 40 to human).

I will admit that being able to carry more as a gnome would be nice, but my box of Abu Kar and weight reduction bags mostly solves that problem.

[Kich867]

Arrow kite him. He is a nightmare when wielding the axe as it procs a lot and makes the fight MUCH harder.

He's in Rathe Mountains right? Might be doable with a SoW. I gotta find a better bow too I'm using some pos hunting bow.

[Keebz]

Half Elf warrior of Innoruuk is a nightmare for faction.

Elves hate you, dark elves hate you. Everyone hates you.

And it is from this hate you derive your power!

This might be more impressive than gnome or DE. You also have to look ugly as sin the whole time. I wonder if Human Inny/Bertox warrior is any better faction-wise, though. Their lack of night vision really sucks on this server and might tip the scales over HE.

[Jimjam]

This might be more impressive than gnome or DE. You also have to look ugly as sin the whole time. I wonder if Human Inny/Bertox warrior is any better faction-wise, though. Their lack of night vision really sucks on this server and might tip the scales over HE.

It’s not too bad till kunark, at which point you can access neither port city. At least evil humans can overthere.

[Gustoo]

My first character was a woodelf warrior that worshiped rallos zek (god of war, duh) with all starting points into wisdom (wisdom is better than strength)

Nearly KOS in kelethin, KOS to dwarfs, KOS to high elfs.

It was legit. I found refuge in the halfling city after a perilous journey and have considered rivervale by adopted home for some time now.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Erudite paladin

[Indecisive]

My first character was a woodelf warrior that worshiped rallos zek (god of war, duh) with all starting points into wisdom (wisdom is better than strength)

Nearly KOS in kelethin, KOS to dwarfs, KOS to high elfs.

It was legit. I found refuge in the halfling city after a perilous journey and have considered rivervale by adopted home for some time now.

This is one of the coolest things about this game, and something about it really made me smile. Virtual high five, er... elbow touch.

[Pseudechis]

What kind of idiot would fashion quest a wood elf warrior on red?

[Drezo]

Random observation that Furor Planedefiler was a human warrior that worshiped Innoruuk. Seemed to get by OK.

[FTN806]

A female half elf warrior following the Tribunal with all stats in charisma and Freeport start.

[Fammaden]

Throwing deity in muddies the waters more than the original question, you can't see what deity someone took at a glance.

I think its fun to choose a god and of course the more unusual choices are more interesting, but I realize that the min/max option is to go agnostic if you can.

[solleks]

If u can level up a female troll shadowknight ill give u a gift of a smile

[Cen]

Throwing deity in muddies the waters more than the original question, you can't see what deity someone took at a glance.

I think its fun to choose a god and of course the more unusual choices are more interesting, but I realize that the min/max option is to go agnostic if you can.

Veeshan, Solusek Ro, and Bristlebane when given as options should always be chosen over Agnostic first :)

Just getting technical

[therealjeffrey]

When FV server went live and you could only have 1 character on the server, I did some research on the least played race/class combos across all servers. At that time gnome cleric was the #1 least played combo with erudite paladin a close #2

[Fammaden]

Gnome cleric is far from rare here in my experience. I've no idea why, its a bad cleric race by the stats and most green players are picking the min/max races overall it seems. Gnomes look cool to me though, but many seem to hate them or at least like to joke hate them.

[Jimjam]

Gnomes are tiny so you can fit more of them in to a chain. When you’re raid roll is to stare at a wall, maybe it is more fun to stare through the wall?

[Jibartik]

Necromancer with all your point sin wisdom instead of int.

[Ennewi]

Throwing deity in muddies the waters more than the original question, you can't see what deity someone took at a glance.

I think its fun to choose a god and of course the more unusual choices are more interesting, but I realize that the min/max option is to go agnostic if you can.

True, but a few exceptions come to mind...

http://wiki.project1999.com/Malevolence

http://wiki.project1999.com/Natures_Defender

Don't know if agnostic characters ever received their own weapons, but deity specific quests and rewards were a great addition to EQ that encouraged at least some semblance of roleplay.

[Swish]

Half Elf warrior of Innoruuk is a nightmare for faction.

Elves hate you, dark elves hate you. Everyone hates you.

And it is from this hate you derive your power!

I don't think you ever played one.

[Jimjam]

I don't think you ever played one.

https://i.imgur.com/SEFgdQf.jpg

[Dolalin]

Troll or Iksar SK just because of the exp penalty involved.

If we throw diety into it, evil gnome cleric (can you roll a Bertie gnome cleric?). Worst racial choice for cleric, plus would be kos pretty much everywhere on their starting continent, never gets invis. Don't think they could even buy spells in akanon can they? They'd have to run to Freeport, naked, at level 1, past all the Kos elves and dwarves? Fuck I wanna try to roll one now :D

[Dolalin]

Yes you can roll an evil gnome cleric! Not for the faint of heart...

[Tnair]

Karana human ranger, gnome warrior, dark elf enchanter, any human int caster ... basically any combo clearly giving the /rude to minmaxing in favor of flavor

[Dolalin]

An update on evil Gnome clerics: unfortunately they are not as gimped as I thought. You can buy cleric spells in the mines of malfunction.

[Vaarsuvius]

Karana human ranger, gnome warrior, dark elf enchanter, any human int caster ... basically any combo clearly giving the /rude to minmaxing in favor of flavor

Odd, I levelled an agnostic human mage to 75 on live before I stopped playing, and I never felt like it was slow.

https://i.imgur.com/kxDTrTI.jpg

cf attached pic: D&D nostalgic here, too bad the name was not available on my server back then.

I may be wrong, but aren't humans the most neutral race factionwise ?

[BarnabusCollins]

Torpor shaman is most OP in game

[Jimjam]

Torpor shaman is most OP in game

I too would be impressed by a level 50 torp shaman.

[slowpoke68]

Human Ranger or Erudite Paladin.

[Gustoo]

Erudite pally is kinda the ultimate worst class race combo that is super cool looking because of deep rare

Some bad warrior races too

[Trexller]

Green Server has been open for 8 months.

People make chars just because of the fact they are uncommon race/class combos.

Every race/class combo is represented at level 50. Spend some time on the /who list.

dunno why this is even a thread.

[Tywulf]

Green Server has been open for 8 months.

People make chars just because of the fact they are uncommon race/class combos.

Every race/class combo is represented at level 50. Spend some time on the /who list.

dunno why this is even a thread.

Paineel isn't open yet, so no every class/race combo isn't represented. No Erud SK's.

[magnetaress]

I think lizards should be able to be rogues. Without a mask.

[Trexller]

Paineel isn't open yet, so no every class/race combo isn't represented. No Erud SK's.

Rest assured that Erudite SKs will be level 50 within a week of paineel release. Leveling any toon isn't a challenge when you have the time and support.

Those dudes are gonna PL hard. Everyone knows this. You do too, yet you gotta be the "Oh no you didn't" guy

[drackgon]

I've seen a few gnome warriors(crankfuse is amazing btw!), and only 2? gnome clerics. By far rarest combo. After that would say hafling warrior, and human druid. On green I've seen a good dozen+ erudite pally/clerics heck look at DMO.

[Tywulf]

Rest assured that Erudite SKs will be level 50 within a week of paineel release. Leveling any toon isn't a challenge when you have the time and support.

Those dudes are gonna PL hard. Everyone knows this. You do too, yet you gotta be the "Oh no you didn't" guy

Just like after Kunark with lizards.. give it a week, ok maybe two for the SK due to exp penalty, and you'll have all of those filled as well.

[Jimjam]

I've seen a few gnome warriors(crankfuse is amazing btw!), and only 2? gnome clerics. By far rarest combo. After that would say hafling warrior, and human druid. On green I've seen a good dozen+ erudite pally/clerics heck look at DMO.

The rarity of halfling warriors on green is an interesting one considering their popularity on blue... last time we did klandi all three warriors were halflings! I suppose their mediocre starting stats are more of a big deal on green without the expansion mudflation?

[drackgon]

Nah bc most people wanted guises done on orges/trolls thats why u only see mostly orges/trolls and not halfings atm

[Keebz]

Nah bc most people wanted guises done on orges/trolls thats why u only see mostly orges/trolls and not halfings atm

I main a halfling warrior on blue, playing a troll warrior here. Anecdata checks out.

[Yasi]

A human rogue to be server first level 50 would impress me much.

[Dolalin]

The rarity of halfling warriors on green is an interesting one considering their popularity on blue... last time we did klandi all three warriors were halflings! I suppose their mediocre starting stats are more of a big deal on green without the expansion mudflation?

On a fresh server where twinking is harder, the extra Ogre str makes a noticeable difference to your dps and ability to solo and wear heavy armours like bronze.

[Fammaden]

My halfling warrior is close to encumbered by his own gear all the time. I know in the future str will become a trivial thing, but its definitely a little ridiculous at the moment. Seems like the vast majority of wars on green are ogre.

[drackgon]

Fammaden I so far only recall a single halfing warrior ive seen think was around 30 in unrest basement. ofc i see a few lvl 1-2 banker alts. But yeah Kudos If you are leveling one. I was working on leveling an orge warrior for guise got to around 20ish. But might reroll him to gnome warrior myself.

[Fammaden]

Having played an ogre before I find the small race so much more convenient. Was never going to get a guise on my war alt, nor any other alt after teal closed, and that size is just a complete pain in the ass in general.

[Ivory]

Gnome warrior.... everyone appreciates a mighty gnome warrior. A ball o battle, a clockwork commander, a tiny trooper!

[Keebz]

We should add the stipulation that the character must be someone's main and reasonably untwinked. Otherwise everything can be overcome quite easily.

A main gnome warrior leveled up from cloth armor and bull smashers is sweet. A gnome warrior with dual yaks, rubi bp, and fbss is zZzZzzz.

[magnetaress]

We should add the stipulation that the character must be someone's main and reasonably untwinked. Otherwise everything can be overcome quite easily.

A main gnome warrior leveled up from cloth armor and bull smashers is sweet. A gnome warrior with dual yaks, rubi bp, and fbss is zZzZzzz.

Nope u aren't allowed to use bullsmashers. Only minoaxes.

[Dolalin]

Dwarven axes from crushbone are probably the best and easiest attainable slashers you will find at low levels.

[Bigsham]

dwarven axes are great i will agree

[Jibartik]

I am late to the party but just realized female dwarf with a beard, with any class, is def a class/race combo I respect seeing max level...

Also a proudly warn moustache with a suit of blazing ro is pretty cool.

I think female ogre's are a bold choice but I just don't love the payoff in the end, but that is a rarer one.

Maybe.. a female halfling warrior is a fun class, but not totally uncommon?

Anyway yeah, I think there are some under utilized female & cosmetic appearance class/race combos out there maybe still?

Someone on the forums has a golden efreeti necro, that's pretty unique :o

[Kanuvan]

usually impressed to see a 50 ranger of any race run by, warriors atleast get in groups because people are dumb enough to think they can tank when the ranger is the far superior tank

[Jibartik]

A human ranger in full green plate looks cool, and a darkelf one looks cooler!

[iamnotsalem]

here's a erudite paladin and Jimjam's half elf warrior


https://i.imgur.com/b6ysOA4.png

[Jimjam]

That’s beautiful!

I remember AFKing under the water thinking I wouldn’t be found: I was wrong! In fairness I always keep anon off so people can find me -thats on me!

The funny thing was, according to my logs it took like 15 minutes to kill my very badly equipped warrior, look at those misses, more time than it took to get a port from lavastorm to BB for the corpse recovery.

I know this is insane, but I always felt I won that encounter based on the ‘time expended’ metric.

Thanks for sharing that picture, your smacktalk was very entertaining and perfectly timed shutter!

[Bigsham]

God red is so good its such a shame most of the people on this project are so bad and scared they will never get to enjoy real everquest.

[iamnotsalem]

I def won that encounter, there is nothing more satisfying then killing AFK players

[Modwolf]

Surprised no one mentioned Halfing Cleric. Anytime I ran into anyone they'd ask me for sow. Even in game halfing clerics aren't imaginable. #halfingracism