Will Phinny's mage/wiz staves and bard backbone also be deleted at Kunark launch?

[Videri]

Did these items drop already in Classic? I haven't even bothered to look.

If these items were added later, I would like to advise people to be mentally prepared for these items to disappear from characters and banks at the point in the timeline when they were added (presumably when Kunark opens).

Thoughts?

[Cen]

I was suprised some of my ingots and bones for clerics got deleted NOW and not back as soon as possible. Thankfully I only collected 3 en passant to somewhere ;P

[Man0warr]

I know the Mage staves and Wiz staff dropped prior to Kunark/Epics. The backbone is just a quest item so I assume it was added along with the Epic quest.

Checking their item id on Magelo/Lucy should shed some light. The numbers are mostly sequential to when they were added to the game.

[deadlycupcakez]

This is the least Tala post i've ever seen actually

[Videri]

This is the least Tala post i've ever seen actually

Why is that? I'm trying to warn people they might lose their pre-farmed Kunark epic items from Phinigel. Especially the Kedge Backbone, as there was no reason for it to exist before the bard epic existed. Did you see the post by the guy who was wearing a bunch of Sol Ro gear and is now disappointed that it was all zapped? Warning people not to spend DKP or socking time on Phinny backbones seems like a Tala thing to do. No?

Or is it because I'm no longer the naive noob I once was? Don't worry, the noob is alive...inside.

[zaneosak]

I don't think kedge backbone dropped in classic. It's highly likely it will poof. The wiz staff was in before kunark and likely won't be touched.

[Baler]

I think it's more classic for them to delete all mage epic items prior to epic quest era on kunark. It's the only way to be sure.

September 2000, Kunark Epic Quests are added. B T W

December 2000 is velious launch.

[Ligma]

The staves, wand, crown, shovel, broom, cloak are all classic.

[Balimon]

Mage and Wiz staves are classic, they were added when Kedge was itemized, which was pre-Kunark. Backbone's might poof though yeah.

People knew the SolRo items could be deleted, anyone with a shred of sense would assume this. That guy in RnF just likes to drama, how could he not know those items could be deleted?

Thanks for the PSA but on this I think we're okay :)

[Tywulf]

1-3 total items, randomly chosen from a pool of Rods of Malisement, Wands of Mana Sieving, Robes of the Kedge, Staves of Elemental Mastery: Water and Tridents of the Seven Seas. Trident seems to be the rarest loot. All the items are lore, no drop

From a February 2000 post on Alla's. Earliest reference to the Blue Crystal Staff is in December 2000 with an inquiring mind wanting to know about a backbone in January 2001.

Sounds about right to me... lol

[turbosilk]

Did these items drop already in Classic? I haven't even bothered to look.

If these items were added later, I would like to advise people to be mentally prepared for these items to disappear from characters and banks at the point in the timeline when they were added (presumably when Kunark opens).

Thoughts?

If not it needs removed now because it's negatively impacting Phinny's loot table when a quest item is taking up a loot reward slot which is then going to be deleted.

[Erati]

Use Bug forum

[Videri]

For precedent, see someone else's thread Are Sol Ro quest items dropping? (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346189) in which I expressed concern that people were gathering up Sol Ro quest items that would be deleted. I asked, "How likely are they to delete all the Sol Ro quest items in people’s bank/inventory right before Sol Ro comes out?" and these were the responses:

"I would say unlikely. If they were game breaking items that gave a severe advantage for competitive content then maybe. But most of the the Sol Ro items are mid-game stuff or utility, so no reason to waste the time and energy."

"extremely unlikely"

"items are being removed" (dingdingding)

"I would think twice before hoarding these. DELETE FROM statements in MySQL are not hard." -Dolalin (generally believe whatever this guy says btw)

"They won't delete them, unless they plan on deleting all the kunark epic drops as well that were not droppable in classic era. And that would cause a fucking shitroar."

And so it has. That's why I'm trying to warn people now! Be wary of spending hours or DKP on bard backbones...and any other epic items that may have been left in. I mean, loot rots, but just remember what might happen to them. I don't want people to be sad.

[Videri]

Use Bug forum

m'kay, I made a bug report.

The longer the backbone drops, the more disappointed bards there will be if the bard backbones all go VOiP! at Kunark launch. Also, the less other Phinny loot we'll see!

https://i.imgur.com/V8Ffw9H.png

[Cen]

I'm expecting monks to lose their Lost Circle robes once the official quest releases even if it can drop from Z and Q anyway after the fact

[Jimjam]

Guilds can always refund dkp for deleted items, so I don’t think “but mah dkp” is a good argument against fixing leaked items.

[turbosilk]

Backbones should be removed now because it is reducing the classic lot table drops.

[loramin]

That's why I'm trying to warn people now! Be wary of spending hours or DKP on bard backbones...and any other epic items that may have been left in. I mean, loot rots, but just remember what might happen to them. I don't want people to be sad.

Honestly I don't see anyone's issue here: you're doing the server a public service!

Look, if this was a paid game and the game makers let people invest time and energy into acquiring items, then deleted those items without warning, people would be up in arms.

Now P99 is not a paid game and I do not expect that of them ... but if they don't have the capacity to warn people of the impending deletion of bugged items, it's awesome that someone else is willing to!

https://i.imgur.com/4Tlmhwr.gif

[Videri]

I'm expecting monks to lose their Lost Circle robes once the official quest releases even if it can drop from Z and Q anyway after the fact

It's my understanding the current robe is classic. It also has worse stats. Its stats get boosted at some point in Kunark.

[Videri]

Honestly I don't see anyone's issue here: you're doing the server a public service!

Tyvm, Loramin.

Backbones should be removed now because it is reducing the classic lot table drops.

Yeah! Don't people want more staves and robes? :confused:

My bug report is posted, btw! Flame on. :cool:

I don't want people to be sad.

[magnetaress]

I hope they do *get deleted*

[Kirdan]

I'm expecting monks to lose their Lost Circle robes once the official quest releases even if it can drop from Z and Q anyway after the fact

The brothers and quests are correctly in the game now, but Targin (incorrectly) isn't spawning yet, that's why everyone has to get them from the brothers currently.