lets show some class please

[lethstang]

I thought id try my hand at drama, see where it goes.

So yesterday I was running the disco group in seb. great exp, great drops. BJ's for everyone.

Tank ends up having to leave (snoogan u rock my face). And is replaced with Holyspawn, an SK. Long story short, I had everyone getting their own replacements and suddenly I find myself in a group with five members from another guild (holyspawns).

before I know it, every disagreement we have turns into a me vs them. At one point, I wanted to start repping with ppl other than from their guild (and other than PPing rogues wtf)because this was a very uncomfy situation. I was told my request was denied, and if I kept it up I could find myself another place (so a coup from the group I had been chanting for for the past eight hours).

Everytime the tank died, a new finger was pointed, usually at me. suddenly everyones an enchanter and has advice. this was solely because I was the odd man out. This is my second time to 60 as a chanter, i had been chanting for the group all day, and the notion was quite ridiculous. I about lost it when the tank told me hed never heard of higher level mobs being harder to mez than lower mobs.

Finally the group broke apart once the SK refused to let me lull and died to a library pull (after a mage and i explained how the process of invising, targetting, and calming worked). The cleric from his guild then left while we were running back to reform after gating, and joined another group to take the camp. In her words "because we were wasting time just sitting in FV" (we were all running back). Very classy.

Anywho. The fault was mine. I shouldnt have let a guild take over my group. I assumed people were above such behavior.

My opinions stated here are my own and dont reflect upon my guild thanks. Ive met some really cool people from their guild, I just happened to meet all the turds yesterday.

seriously, fuck you guys for ruining my day yesterday.

i feel better now thanks for reading.

Lethok

[Ruinous]

How dare you rant in such a civilized manner!


Seriously though, sounds like a bummer. I can see it happening for sure.

[Labyrrinth]

LOL And now a view from the other side of the fence.

Looking for a group in Seb, I received a tell from a cleric asking if I wanted to replace him in D1. I said sure....

So without even bringing up what the group thought or said to me about the enchanter. I will just tell you what the cleric I was replacing said:

"the enchanter isn't very good. Takes him forever to lock down mobs, he goes afk often without letting the group know, he doesn't seem to know how to stun. Start your heals early" The cleric then apologized numerous times for the enchanter :)


I thought to myself, surely he can't be that bad! I'll give him a chance....

The cleric I replaced was dead on. Enough said :)

Now on to me leaving the group incident :) Holyspawn had to leave. Fine, no biggee I think to myself, Lethok has a replacement coming. So we wait for Lethok and this new tank replacement at the Seb zone in. At this point there are 50+ people in Seb. People are doing CC's, D1 nor D2 are occupied. One group is now on the way to D1.

Still waiting.....at this point it's been at least 15 min and no sign of the enchanter or tank.

I do a "who all "name of tank Lethok said he got" and Ohhh look at that, he is still in FV.

I send a tell to Lethok "You guys are still in FV?" and he replies with yes, they are. I inform him that we've lost the camp and that I was going to disband. If they were in no hurry to get back so we could continue on, I am under no obligation to continue to wait for them.

I the proceeded to get another group :)

Unfortunately, the story isn't all that drama worthy

[Bruno]

Way to ruin a lot of boners India.

[Rhambuk]

http://www.naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Ms-Nasty-ass.jpg

Oh, you said class...

[lethstang]

the other cleric didnt like me either. when your guildies were hating on me he just jumped on the bandwagon. he did so because everytime the tank died, the tank would blame me. how was the cleric supposed to know the difference?

Notice how i never blamed the tank for dying, and just continued to keep the peace and say he was doing a good job and not to worry about it. THATS CLASS. Of course the cleric, seeing that back and forth, is going to assume im being nice out of guilt, and not just trying to keep the peace.

it doesnt hurt my feelings you say im bad. years of experience and praise say otherwise.

and for arguments sake, even if i were the worst in the world, its not an excuse for yoos guys's actions.

and to call you out, i seriously doubt the cleric said even half of that. his name was kline if he would like to chime in.

[lethstang]

and honestly ive noticed throughout the years, when someone thinks im bad, its because theyre the bad player and an eqknowitall. not saying you are. but your judgment was colored by the already negative impression you had when you joined. everytime we had someone join yday who wasnt guilded with you thought i was gods gift to chanting. I made four friends :)

[Taryth]

I about lost it when the tank told me hed never heard of higher level mobs being harder to mez than lower mobs.


Lol, idk who to believe. If the tank really did say anything even resembling the above, I'd say the tank was a moron at that level. Nothing personal, but if someone didn't know that . . .come on, you've got to be a moron. Which leads me to believe the Ench was decent or better, and that at least the replacement tank was a bit dumb. The rest of the group probably felt obligated to side with their guildies, which can be a tough spot.

But then again, you're both probably leaving out gobs of the story :p

[Alarti0001]

and honestly ive noticed throughout the years, when someone thinks im bad, its because theyre the bad player and an eqknowitall.)

You can be a bad player and an eq knowitall?

[lethstang]

god my rants suck, i just cant bring myself to go off to hard. I will work on my next one.

[blammo]

that reminds this one time i was at a carnival and i shit my pants so i secretly disposed of them in a garbage bin. well the joke was on me as my license was in the pants and were returned to me the next day by a policeman.

LOL buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Seeatee]

first off, EQ is a game where you have to be "on" at all times, especially in a zone like seb, so it is real easy for someone to have a bad or off day, perhaps you or the tank or both of you were not having the best of days.

one thing I have learned in my many years of playing EQ is that tanks and the people who play them tend to have the biggest egos and biggest opinions in EQ and are real quick to point the finger at someone else when they mess up, I know this because I used to play a warrior for 7 or so years on live and was my guilds MT and tank team leader for several of those years and in that time almost all of the tanks had large egos and an opinion on everything ( and god knows they were always right ) my self included, it is real easy for a tank to say "well all I have to do is taunt and get hit how can I possible fuck it up? clearly it was the ench, cleric, ranger whoever fault"

I think it is just the nature of the class, always feeling like you are the center of attention and that the group revolves around you since you "keep everyone safe" so it tends to attract people with that sort of personality.

I guess in short what I am trying to say is dont let it get ya down too bad, this kind of shit happens in EQ and I am sure it will happen to both you and the tank again, the best advice maybe would be to recognize the situation before it goes so far next time and either restructure the group or just knuckle under and leave the group your self and go find exp elsewhere, because it sounds like once things started to go bad no one was having fun, and if your not having fun what is the point of playing a game?

[Arclyte]

first off, EQ is a game where you have to be "on" at all times, especially in a zone like seb, so it is real easy for someone to have a bad or off day, perhaps you or the tank or both of you were not having the best of days.

one thing I have learned in my many years of playing EQ is that tanks and the people who play them tend to have the biggest egos and biggest opinions in EQ and are real quick to point the finger at someone else when they mess up, I know this because I used to play a warrior for 7 or so years on live and was my guilds MT and tank team leader for several of those years and in that time almost all of the tanks had large egos and an opinion on everything ( and god knows they were always right ) my self included, it is real easy for a tank to say "well all I have to do is taunt and get hit how can I possible fuck it up? clearly it was the ench, cleric, ranger whoever fault"

I think it is just the nature of the class, always feeling like you are the center of attention and that the group revolves around you since you "keep everyone safe" so it tends to attract people with that sort of personality.

I guess in short what I am trying to say is dont let it get ya down too bad, this kind of shit happens in EQ and I am sure it will happen to both you and the tank again, the best advice maybe would be to recognize the situation before it goes so far next time and either restructure the group or just knuckle under and leave the group your self and go find exp elsewhere, because it sounds like once things started to go bad no one was having fun, and if your not having fun what is the point of playing a game?

the sock doesn't fill itself

[Ennoia]

I thought id try my hand at drama, see where it goes.

So yesterday I was running the disco group in seb. great exp, great drops. BJ's for everyone.

Tank ends up having to leave (snoogan u rock my face). And is replaced with Holyspawn, an SK. Long story short, I had everyone getting their own replacements and suddenly I find myself in a group with five members from another guild (holyspawns).

before I know it, every disagreement we have turns into a me vs them. At one point, I wanted to start repping with ppl other than from their guild (and other than PPing rogues wtf)because this was a very uncomfy situation. I was told my request was denied, and if I kept it up I could find myself another place (so a coup from the group I had been chanting for for the past eight hours).

Everytime the tank died, a new finger was pointed, usually at me. suddenly everyones an enchanter and has advice. this was solely because I was the odd man out. This is my second time to 60 as a chanter, i had been chanting for the group all day, and the notion was quite ridiculous. I about lost it when the tank told me hed never heard of higher level mobs being harder to mez than lower mobs.

Finally the group broke apart once the SK refused to let me lull and died to a library pull (after a mage and i explained how the process of invising, targetting, and calming worked). The cleric from his guild then left while we were running back to reform after gating, and joined another group to take the camp. In her words "because we were wasting time just sitting in FV" (we were all running back). Very classy.

Anywho. The fault was mine. I shouldnt have let a guild take over my group. I assumed people were above such behavior.

My opinions stated here are my own and dont reflect upon my guild thanks. Ive met some really cool people from their guild, I just happened to meet all the turds yesterday.

seriously, fuck you guys for ruining my day yesterday.

i feel better now thanks for reading.

Lethok

Rant gets 0 points because you're a pussy and didn't mention the name of the guild.

[Surfbum]

Holyspawn is one of the worst tanks I have had the displeasure to play with. The last time I grouped with her, she stopped taunting the mobs she pulled because she was arguing loot rules. So I had to root mobs while they ran to beat on the cleric, so she could stand motionless and rant in group chat about how she wanted ffa loot since it was a pug group in KC. (Honestly, being that the group was made completely of classes that for the past 6 hours of camping there hadn't gotten a single need roll, I didn't see the point. cleric,2xnecro,mage,rogue-I know things do drop for some of em, but nothing imo worth an argument) So after we finish the mobs.. during which the cleric went unconscious at one time, she states 'Understood,' disbands and runs off to try and join another group.

Her guild is TMO, on a side note..

[Grizzl]

Im also an Enchanter which has had the regretful
experience of grouping with Holyspawn. She
definitely will no longer be part of my eq experience.

Btw, i have played an Ench since May of 99. i think
i have a handle on the class and how it's supposed
to be played. She made me feel like a newbie, and
not justifiably.

She is the first TMO player I have come
to really not like.

[Guybrush]

Holyspawn is the biggest cunt I've ever met on the server.

[Loly Taa]

If you don't like someone, just don't group with them. I would say I don't see the need to bash TMO for the actions of one player, but meh- it's R&F. Bring it on. I'm sure if I didn't have the luxury of rolling with a leet group wherever I go and had to pug it I'd be complaining about a lot more players here as well.

Solution: Only group with people you like that you feel are competent, it works for me- and I don't have to come here and write paragraphs long rants instead of just playing the damn game.

[Surfbum]

This is the rants and flaming section of a forum.. this is exactly what this is for, heh. Part of posting here is to vent/inform others of things they may want to be aware of in the future as they play the game. Also, no one in this thread has directly bashed TMO, someone simply asked which guild she belonged too. Too defensive of a post for nothing being said, imo, but after some other threads I've read about their guild, I can't say I surprised.

[Walabaego]

Holyspawn is one of the worst tanks I have had the displeasure to play with. The last time I grouped with her, she stopped taunting the mobs she pulled because she was arguing loot rules. So I had to root mobs while they ran to beat on the cleric, so she could stand motionless and rant in group chat about how she wanted ffa loot since it was a pug group in KC. (Honestly, being that the group was made completely of classes that for the past 6 hours of camping there hadn't gotten a single need roll, I didn't see the point. cleric,2xnecro,mage,rogue-I know things do drop for some of em, but nothing imo worth an argument) So after we finish the mobs.. during which the cleric went unconscious at one time, she states 'Understood,' disbands and runs off to try and join another group.

Her guild is TMO, on a side note..

Also after Holyspawn joined that other group, 5 minutes later they were at ZL trying to buy rezzes. GG Holyspawn.

[Loly Taa]

I was being defensive because I myself have grouped with Holyspawn and our own guild enchanters and I've never had any problems. I've also never really heard anyone in guild come to me and complain about them- and I would be the one they'd complain to. So if you ask me, something sounds fishy here.

I do recall him winning a Rod of Annihilation and a Rod of Mourning in one group. I suspect there could be some mega butthurt here from that.

[Surfbum]

*shrug* You can use whatever excuses you want, the fact remains that a group of people are simply agreeing that their experience with Holyspawn has been in general, bad. This attitude that just because she is TMO means she can't possible be bad and every other player must simply be jealous because she got loot is just silly. I don't post often because I'm lazy and just enjoy skimming posts, but I read this one and the memory of my group experience with her was still fresh in mind, so I'll leave it at that.

[Ronas]

Probably just a long group and then swap that got you all rowdy. For me after 8+ hours with the same players and then new people coming into the group that don't live up to the previous players you had with you for 8 hours gets me really annoyed. You will see the difference in play style and lack of xp gained due to there retardiness/afking and not being able to play there class well.

As insurance if you are not lazy, explain in tell to some of the other players in group (That are able to root) or take initiative yourself to root mobs and hide behind walls (So you are not in line of sight of there nukes) then tell off the enc/tank for not doing there jobs.

Sometimes just have to let them go, and say sorry we have replaced you because we are tired of carrying you. Kick and carry on with competent players.

[lethstang]

this is the op.

ronas thats how i roll (kicking, and getting in competent players). however the problem i had was everyone was from the same guild and i could not kick a player due to incompetence because they would then just reform without me, the party leader whos been there forever, and bring in their own enchanter (they fucking mentioned this). Thats the shit that was making me go nucking futs. the fucking BULLYING by bad players.

FUCK.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

And the guild was?

[Versus]

And the guild was?


The Mystical Order.

[lethstang]

the mystical order.

again this rant is not against the guild as a whole. im actually grouping with some lovely fellows under their tag atm in the basement of KC.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Ah, originally I thought this was a post about who is a skilled player etc etc..what was ironic is we had a chef/bar group when Holyspawn joined us earlier. Just as THREE mobs wipe us I see another group waiting outside the door to take our camp.. I remember thinking "How convenient they are sitting there waiting as we wipe because our tank was afk and then comes back in the nick of time to break one of the mezzed mobs to tank and kill the ench, and wipe the group." To be frank I didn't think it was because they sucked, I thought it was a deliberate act.

But the real story is how members of that guild joined the group, and then cause the group to fail on purpose, so they can bring their own group down. That is low.

And yes, Lethok I am sure every group has good/bad apples, people come in all different varieties. However, actions speak louder then words. You lose a wallet with 20 dollars in it, some guy returns it, and he is a great guy right? A man of character.

Put 200 dollars in that same wallet.

You put a disco camp on the line, and they act like that. You put a basement camp in the mix, and they act cool? Charity is not a bone shared with the dog, it is a bone shared with the dog when you are just as hungry as the dog.

And to flame the guild as a whole because of a few members actions could be wrong, I grant you. Or at least, unfair. But if they are prominent members? Or the majority? If the others allow the behavior, condone it, and laugh about it in guild? Do you doubt anyone was laughing about the fail enchanter in guildchat? Or how they pulled one over on you? If such was the case, then are the bystanders 'lovely fellows?'.

You get mugged on the street, and the guys mugging you are bad fellows. Their friends watch it and laugh about it, or do nothing. Lovely fellows? I will say this. Klane left a good impression, and Arkenius is all class.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

And to be fair, this kind of thing happens more often then I would like. And with other guilds that just this one, they certainly are not the root of all evil.

[Alarti0001]

no we are definitely the root of all evil !

[lethstang]

@loly taa

id like to make the small but important distinction i didnt have a problem with holy being bad. it was with her pisspoor attitude, unearned haughtiness, passive aggression, disrespectful tone (its funny to say that about text) and the my way or the highway attitude. her guildies saw it as her asserting leadership, the unguilded saw it as what it was.

this is why you dont hear complaints from your guildies about her. shes a decent tank, and i doubt she treats her guildmates like this. your post suggesting since you dont hear it from the guild or your guildchanters, and hence everyone else must either suck or be conspiring is fucking ridiculous. I cant believe I have to point this shit out.

@india - you proved my point with your post. you didnt feel like you had to wait for your group to complete the cr and go back to disco, you jumped ship and went to a competing group to take it. your flippant, matter of fact explanation shows the fundamental difference in opinon we have on the matter. This comes from playing two characters of the holy trinity for a long time. I understand you feel justified. But fuck you show some class it doesnt make it right. Other than the ending there, I thought you played a solid shift. Good attitude and skill.

[basingreg]

Holyspawn is a giant douchebag. He's a guy and don't let him tell you otherwise. I've had around 5 experiences with him (grouped and ungrouped) and every single one has been negative. Now when I get group invites and he is in the group I say no thanks and leave.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

If you feel so strongly about it Lethok (and I feel the same as you), then why did you not learn from your lesson?

[lethstang]

i did sir i did. this happened yesterday. today in my groups i had to kindly inform the TMO members that I wouldnt be hosting more than three at a time in my party. I put it much more politic though.

[lethstang]

to clarify, i didnt tell them this because they were tmo, only because it was tmo today who happened to be the ones pushing the four member mark.

[Sizzle]

None of these posts matter anymore. Haven't you all heard? Osama Bin Laden is dead!

[Labyrrinth]

[QUOTE=lethstang;280602
@india - you proved my point with your post. you didnt feel like you had to wait for your group to complete the cr and go back to disco, you jumped ship and went to a competing group to take it. your flippant, matter of fact explanation shows the fundamental difference in opinon we have on the matter. This comes from playing two characters of the holy trinity for a long time. I understand you feel justified. But fuck you show some class it doesnt make it right. Other than the ending there, I thought you played a solid shift. Good attitude and skill.[/QUOTE]

Dude, don't tell me I didn't wait for my group to complete CR. I was the one that rezzed the one person that died, and a few others at the zoneline on top of it.

Had you been in the zone you would have known that CR was DONE. It couldn't get anymore done. Hell we were all medded to full, buffed and waiting for you.

And we waited, and waited, and waited.

15 minutes later you were still in FV.... that's why I left

Had you perhaps given people the same consideration you expect and ran yourself back to Seb I wouldn't have felt the need to move on. But you didn't feel the need, for whatever reason.

[Chanur]

More TMO fun, I'm shocked.

[Alarti0001]

@loly taa

id like to make the small but important distinction i didnt have a problem with holy being bad.

shes a decent tank,

@india - you proved my point with your post. you didnt feel like you had to wait for your group to complete the cr and go back to disco, you jumped ship and went to a competing group to take it. your flippant, matter of fact explanation shows the fundamental difference in opinon we have on the matter. This comes from playing two characters of the holy trinity for a long time. I understand you feel justified. But fuck you show some class it doesnt make it right. Other than the ending there, I thought you played a solid shift. Good attitude and skill.

You are all over the fucking place lol. Holyspawn is so bad.....wait he is a decent tank. ?

You are so good that you are God's gift to chanting... Here seems to be what happens. Someone hurt your feelers and called you a band chanter. You logged off after the group, ate lots of high fat foods, and stared at a bottle of sleeping pills for a good hour. Then instead of taking yourself out you decided to share your angst with the rest of the community.
Good job!

Here is where you fucked up!

1. You are flip flopping left and right- your story is inconsistent and has no basis in fact.

2. You accused India of "lack of class" - India is probably one of the sweetest personalities on this server.
If you wanted to call me an asshole you would probably be justified. But, India? that is just stupid.


You are just a mediocre enchanter, which isn't a problem, just get better. This wasn't big bad TMO versus you, this was you not performing.

[Chanur]

You are all over the fucking place lol. Holyspawn is so bad.....wait he is a decent tank. ?

You are so good that you are God's gift to chanting... Here seems to be what happens. Someone hurt your feelers and called you a band chanter. You logged off after the group, ate lots of high fat foods, and stared at a bottle of sleeping pills for a good hour. Then instead of taking yourself out you decided to share your angst with the rest of the community.
Good job!

Here is where you fucked up!

1. You are flip flopping left and right- your story is inconsistent and has no basis in fact.

2. You accused India of "lack of class" - India is probably one of the sweetest personalities on this server.
If you wanted to call me an asshole you would probably be justified. But, India? that is just stupid.


You are just a mediocre enchanter, which isn't a problem, just get better. This wasn't big bad TMO versus you, this was you not performing.

What's a band chanter you mouth breathing hand raping faggot? Is that like a boy band?

[karsten]

I had a chance to troll the balls off holyspawn and thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. I had his own guildmates egging me on because of how much they can't stand him. Someone please pass this important post on to him because I would like him to personally know that I will never stop.

[Alarti0001]

oops type ---bad chanter--- sorry to those who couldn't figure it out...

continue with your rage :)

[Shannacore]

Holyspawn = Chantel in SK form??

[lethstang]

im going to go out on a limb alarti and say youve got to be tmo.

since weve never grouped.

and youre shitty and wrong analysis.

Thanks for contributing

[Eldaran]

The smaller population of this server really leads to some epic forum posts. I can't stop reading all of this stuff.

[Alarti0001]

im going to go out on a limb alarti and say youve got to be tmo.

since weve never grouped.

and youre shitty and wrong analysis.

Thanks for contributing

I'm gonna go out on a limb too and say you are a terrible chanter and somehow not project this on your guild at all....

and yes we have grouped you were more ninja afk than a wizard, and i know all about afk wizards

[Prince]

http://macsmind.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/obama-the-rapper.jpg

[Haul]

Was this guild Mercs of Norrath? Those freakin noobs never fight their own battles and always gang up on people. Especially that loser Arty the enchanter. Not sure if that d-bag plays anymore though. If you were ever in lguk before kunark release I'm sure you had the pleasant experience of meeting Arty and his lackys.

[karsten]

where's waldo!??!

[Haul]

If it wasn't Mercs of Norrath my second guess would have to be tmo.

[lethstang]

do tell the time period we grouped in alarti. like, which month. and location.

[Alarti0001]

OS-April

But if you like we can group again, and I will assess your performance for you.

[lethstang]

my first group was the one this rant is about. Just got keyed that morning i believe you have the wrong m8.

[Rais]

Seb is harder than Droga. Give them a chance.

[Dravingar]

My favorite part about when I was in a group with Holyspawn was her rage whenever I talked about inviting a bard to the group, cause he/she didn't want hybrid penalty.

[Loly Taa]

My favorite part about when I was in a group with Holyspawn was her rage whenever I talked about inviting a bard to the group, cause he/she didn't want hybrid penalty.

Now that is funny.

[Alarti0001]

Seb is harder than Droga. Give them a chance.

QQ guess where all my characters are bound. :)

[Eldaran]

My favorite part about when I was in a group with Holyspawn was her rage whenever I talked about inviting a bard to the group, cause he/she didn't want hybrid penalty.

Bards are a hybrid of Rogue and that other singing class.... what's it called? oh yeah. Bard

[Alarti0001]

If you have hate/complaints/rage please direct them to

http://www.themysticalorder.org/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=51

we would love to hear your comments on how we can approve our guild!

[lethstang]

thats right alarti.

conveniently ignore you were just caught lying, blindly defending your guildmates.

no class.

youre a bitch.

[Chanur]

If you have hate/complaints/rage please direct them to

http://www.themysticalorder.org/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=51

we would love to hear your comments on how we can approve our guild!

The only way to improve that cluster fuck you call a guild is for you to delete your accounts then smash your computers.

[Alarti0001]

thats right alarti.

conveniently ignore you were just caught lying, blindly defending your guildmates.

no class.

youre a bitch.

explain how I was caught lying?

[Alarti0001]

The only way to improve that cluster fuck you call a guild is for you to delete your accounts then smash your computers.

suggestion to the linked forum please :) so all guild members can see

[Marley]

My favorite part about when I was in a group with Holyspawn was her rage whenever I talked about inviting a bard to the group, cause he/she didn't want hybrid penalty.

Hahaha Monk tank ftw!

[Tiggles]

I have discussed this with the other TMO officers and as of tonight Holyspawn is no longer a member of TMO.

We take our reputation on this server very seriously and do not want the actions of one rogue member to effect the reputation of the guild as a whole.

I would like to take this time to apolgize for any problems holyspawn has caused for you in his stint in TMO.

I do ask that if any Gm's are reading this if they could respectfully lock this thread to try and get this situation over with and not continue with pointless flaming.

[Koota]

I do ask that if any Gm's are reading this if they could respectfully lock this thread to try and get this situation over with and not continue with pointless flaming.



lolololol

[Droxx]

I have discussed this with the other TMO officers and as of tonight Holyspawn is no longer a member of TMO.

We take our reputation on this server very seriously and do not want the actions of one rogue member to effect the reputation of the guild as a whole.

I would like to take this time to apolgize for any problems holyspawn has caused for you in his stint in TMO.

I do ask that if any Gm's are reading this if they could respectfully lock this thread to try and get this situation over with and not continue with pointless flaming.

lolwut.

[Holdar]

Awww dude! A scapegoat? Probably not even his main in the guild.

[reynar]

lol this is so funny. this is holyspawn btw - first off i can't believe how butthurt karsten is still. nerd raged that a group decided to move into D2 when his group was clearing D1&2. now he trys to bash me. 50 people were in the zone at the time i might add. most groups i am in i have fine experience, as for the guy who says i couldn't hold aggro - LOL so mad because i didn't want to default a Tstaff to a monk in a LCY pug. i never try to play myself off as a girl. why does it even matter to the nerds who are so concerned about girls playing videogames online???

the group at D1 with lethok went like this:
i knew IMMEDIATELY what i was dealing with... a half-assed enchanter who couldn't handle large groups of mobs let alone 2 or 3 without me taking several rounds of Nukes. there has never been a case in the many d1/d2 groups where i had an enchanter that didn't have their AOE mezz memmed and couldnt handle me pulling the library, i've done better with no chanter and a bard handling mezzes. i had to babysit lethok and tend to his badness by trying to limit my pulls and i do admit it was frustrating considering we had 2 rogues and a shaman and were clearing shit fast. lethok started to get his feelings hurt when i would point these things out ---- sorry? if there is a weak link im going to call you out if you're getting me killed (i did die 2-3 times because of his slow mezzes/random afks without saying anything) im a newish EQ player i don't claim to be the best, i know i have much to learn and i will take the blame if the group wipes due to MY own actions, just like i think anyone else should.

[blammo]

lol this is so funny. this is holyspawn btw - first off i can't believe how butthurt karsten is still. nerd raged that a group decided to move into D2 when his group was clearing D1&2. now he trys to bash me. 50 people were in the zone at the time i might add. most groups i am in i have fine experience, as for the guy who says i couldn't hold aggro - LOL so mad because i didn't want to default a Tstaff to a monk in a LCY pug. i never try to play myself off as a girl. why does it even matter to the nerds who are so concerned about girls playing videogames online???

the group at D1 with lethok went like this:
i knew IMMEDIATELY what i was dealing with... a half-assed enchanter who couldn't handle large groups of mobs let alone 2 or 3 without me taking several rounds of Nukes. there has never been a case in the many d1/d2 groups where i had an enchanter that didn't have their AOE mezz memmed and couldnt handle me pulling the library, i've done better with no chanter and a bard handling mezzes. i had to babysit lethok and tend to his badness by trying to limit my pulls and i do admit it was frustrating considering we had 2 rogues and a shaman and were clearing shit fast. lethok started to get his feelings hurt when i would point these things out ---- sorry? if there is a weak link im going to call you out if you're getting me killed (i did die 2-3 times because of his slow mezzes/random afks without saying anything) im a newish EQ player i don't claim to be the best, i know i have much to learn and i will take the blame if the group wipes due to MY own actions, just like i think anyone else should.

I know several people who think you suck as a tank. I grouped with you and found you to be stupid, unaware, and unresponsive to target calls, mezes, and general things that a person with an average intelligence quotient would not have a problem with.

Maybe you should consider rolling as a druid so you won't ever have to group again.

[Alarti0001]

I know several people who think you suck as a tank. I grouped with you and found you to be stupid, unaware, and unresponsive to target calls, mezes, and general things that a person with an average intelligence quotient would not have a problem with.

Maybe you should consider rolling as a druid so you won't ever have to group again.

/yawn only several? I can find several people who think anyone sucks

[karsten]

lol this is so funny. this is holyspawn btw - first off i can't believe how butthurt karsten is still. nerd raged that a group decided to move into D2 when his group was clearing D1&2. now he trys to bash me. 50 people were in the zone at the time i might add. most groups i am in i have fine experience, as for the guy who says i couldn't hold aggro - LOL so mad because i didn't want to default a Tstaff to a monk in a LCY pug. i never try to play myself off as a girl. why does it even matter to the nerds who are so concerned about girls playing videogames online???

the group at D1 with lethok went like this:
i knew IMMEDIATELY what i was dealing with... a half-assed enchanter who couldn't handle large groups of mobs let alone 2 or 3 without me taking several rounds of Nukes. there has never been a case in the many d1/d2 groups where i had an enchanter that didn't have their AOE mezz memmed and couldnt handle me pulling the library, i've done better with no chanter and a bard handling mezzes. i had to babysit lethok and tend to his badness by trying to limit my pulls and i do admit it was frustrating considering we had 2 rogues and a shaman and were clearing shit fast. lethok started to get his feelings hurt when i would point these things out ---- sorry? if there is a weak link im going to call you out if you're getting me killed (i did die 2-3 times because of his slow mezzes/random afks without saying anything) im a newish EQ player i don't claim to be the best, i know i have much to learn and i will take the blame if the group wipes due to MY own actions, just like i think anyone else should.

WALL OF TEXT

[Ronas]

Classic

http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums//archive/index.php/t-5776.html

[Koota]

a half-assed enchanter who couldn't handle large groups of mobs let alone 2 or 3 without me taking several rounds of Nukes. there has never been a case in the many d1/d2 groups where i had an enchanter that didn't have their AOE mezz memmed and couldnt handle me pulling the library, i've done better with no chanter and a bard handling mezzes.



Only noob enchanters use AOE mezz. Real enchanters lock targets down one by one, because Dazzle duration isn't 20 seconds, like AE mezz. Real talk homie.

[Throb]

Only noob enchanters use AOE mezz. Real enchanters lock targets down one by one, because Dazzle duration isn't 20 seconds, like AE mezz. Real talk homie.

Not to mention that you can't overwrite the AE mez with a single target mez, making it even more useless. AE mez is highly situational and not something any enc worth a shit keeps memmed.

[Bubbles]

Now that is funny.

omg gdi i was so ready to point that out, too! =P

[reynar]

omg gdi i was so ready to point that out, too! =P

situational yeah... like when i pull the 5 mobs in the library and he cant handle mezzing them in singles? like i said i couldnt pull 3 casters without him taking way too long to mezz each individually before i took a few rounds of nukes.

[Extunarian]

situational yeah... like when i pull the 5 mobs in the library and he cant handle mezzing them in singles? like i said i couldnt pull 3 casters without him taking way too long to mezz each individually before i took a few rounds of nukes.

not sure why bubbles was quotes in your post...they were obviously talking about something from a page ago.

I haven't brought my chanter to old seb yet so I don't know how resists are there, but I would imagine trying to aoe mez 5 mobs would be a total bitch if 2-3 resist. Or if just 1 resists - if it isn't the tanks' target the tank will probably break a mez on his next swing. Either way the chanter is quickly taking hits that would be better directed at the tank.

On top of that, as others have pointed out, AoE mez has a short duration and can't be overwritten, so in 3-4 ticks the chanter is getting beat again.

Like I said I haven't been to old seb with the chanter yet, but this is something I learned in the HHK basement: AoE mez is highly situational, and when used on mobs near your level it will get you killed.

[bman8810]

lol this is so funny. this is holyspawn btw - first off i can't believe how butthurt karsten is still. nerd raged that a group decided to move into D2 when his group was clearing D1&2. now he trys to bash me. 50 people were in the zone at the time i might add. most groups i am in i have fine experience, as for the guy who says i couldn't hold aggro - LOL so mad because i didn't want to default a Tstaff to a monk in a LCY pug. i never try to play myself off as a girl. why does it even matter to the nerds who are so concerned about girls playing videogames online???

the group at D1 with lethok went like this:
i knew IMMEDIATELY what i was dealing with... a half-assed enchanter who couldn't handle large groups of mobs let alone 2 or 3 without me taking several rounds of Nukes. there has never been a case in the many d1/d2 groups where i had an enchanter that didn't have their AOE mezz memmed and couldnt handle me pulling the library, i've done better with no chanter and a bard handling mezzes. i had to babysit lethok and tend to his badness by trying to limit my pulls and i do admit it was frustrating considering we had 2 rogues and a shaman and were clearing shit fast. lethok started to get his feelings hurt when i would point these things out ---- sorry? if there is a weak link im going to call you out if you're getting me killed (i did die 2-3 times because of his slow mezzes/random afks without saying anything) im a newish EQ player i don't claim to be the best, i know i have much to learn and i will take the blame if the group wipes due to MY own actions, just like i think anyone else should.

Nice job. You have affirmed the suspicions in this thread.

[bman8810]

situational yeah... like when i pull the 5 mobs in the library and he cant handle mezzing them in singles? like i said i couldnt pull 3 casters without him taking way too long to mezz each individually before i took a few rounds of nukes.

Not to mention he said they wanted to lull pull. I've dealt with tanks like you before, let me see if I can get this right.

The wanted to lull pull but instead you just pulled them all. This likely resulted in a surprised group/enchanter and subsequent deaths. Yep, seems about right.

[Zeelot]

Classic

http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums//...hp/t-5776.html


hah Good find! Bring back the memories~

[lethstang]

this is the op.

its like, the shit that holyspawn writes is so ridiculous i cant tell if hes being facetious or not. As a lvl 52 enchanter in disco, you dont aoe mez. Especially on a five pull with boks.

Way to come and validate everything in the thread.

Now I know this is going to go over youre head but heres some advice you wont take - as of right now you are very willing and thats good, but youre a little shy on game mechanics. Listen to the ones who try to teach you, dont get defensive and rude and talk down and try to run shit when you dont know how to play. You will get much better in a very short time if you open your mind and do this. No Im not trying to talk down to you. We were all nubbers once.

Obviously if multiple people on the server have had a problem with you, this should give you the signal to change.

But judging from your posts and vernacular, you wont. So keep sucking mate.

[Chanur]

TMO the creme de la crap!

[Alarti0001]

Its not holyspawn's job to play a chanter is yours who cares if holy cant play a chanter......


Also, why are you stalking my group in D2 atm? Whatever, while you are here take some notes of the TMO chanter so you can l2p

[YendorLootmonkey]

Its not holyspawn's job to play a chanter is yours who cares if holy cant play a chanter.....

Who cares? Just a stab in the dark, but i'm guessing whoever is in Holyspawn's group while he's running around flailing his arms pulling every fucking mob he can see and bringing it back expecting the enchanter to AOE mez when everyone who's played an enchanter in this thread is telling you that AOE mez is a stupid idea in that scenario, while Holyspawn is blaming his lack of knowledge of game mechanics on other players. Just a wild guess, though.

[Alarti0001]

im playing with holyspawn right now everything is running smoothly....other than a need for some planar gear i see no problems... ill keep u posted !

[lethstang]

tmo, at the end of the day its holyspawn who wont be getting group invites because of peoples prior experience with him, and me that gets invites because of our good experiences. Your continuation of the idea that Im somehow a bad player because i called out holyspawn is crazy after all the evidence here.

And i sat down next to your group because i wanted to see how quickly you would get your other TMO to start being rude to me. It took 3 minutes before your cleric and necro started being rude to me, without ever having met me.

Stop being sheep. You just continue to have the server laugh at you.

[lethstang]

yes alarti i watched your enchanter janusx for a bit. She knows whats shes doin.

[Alarti0001]

explain to me why this chanter can so easily do what you cant?

[Alarti0001]

we weren't rude we asked if you had a HS key cause we wanted to go ....and you proceeded to tell us some story about how you lost it because you were fucking a midget over a toilet or some shit? weird shit brosef

[muffins]

OP seems very angered.

[Daldolma]

You can count the non-retarded members of TMO on your fingers.

[lethstang]

every single anti OP post comes from TMO. Notice the trend?

Notice how im not rallying my guild to defend me? Thats how obvious and stupid this is.

[Alarti0001]

every single anti OP post comes from TMO. Notice the trend?

Notice how im not rallying my guild to defend me? Thats how obvious and stupid this is.

No its more like the tmo trolls or the ppl who QQ about shit on here....not very many names look at the post history and you will see that most of your "supporters" are trolls

and Rais doesn't count at all he is just fucking with me :) <3

Here is simple fact...with a lvl 53 chanter in my group I am having 0 problems with holy....I am not saying holy is the best tank but with a chanter who isnt 100% fail the group works....cause you know...its called a group.... after all

[Massive Marc]

a few bad apples ? that tree is fucking rotten to the roots.

[Chanur]

Just laughing at TMO poopsocking their way into mediocrity.

[muffins]

Just laughing at TMO poopsocking their way into mediocrity.

what does this even mean? some kids on this server are pretty creepy. you're probably the type of guy that abandons his family to camp a spawn in an everquest emulated server.

[lethstang]

alarti i have friends in your guild jackass. i know what the hs "invite" was.

even your guildmates think youre a tool.

im out of the thread, this feels like beating up babies.

[Marley]

Just laughing at TMO poopsocking their way into mediocrity.

Does this guy know wtf he's even talking about anymore?

[muffins]

Does this guy know wtf he's even talking about anymore?

I don't know .. This whole EQ thing has gotten to his head. Maybe we should try and help him out.

[Not Angered]

every single anti OP post comes from TMO. Notice the trend?

Notice how im not rallying my guild to defend me? Thats how obvious and stupid this is.

I give TMO credit for taking care of their own... too bad most of them act like they are hot shit and treat everyone else like crap.

[Alarti0001]

alarti i have friends in your guild jackass. i know what the hs "invite" was.

even your guildmates think youre a tool.

im out of the thread, this feels like beating up babies.

I have friends in your guild too.... who have sent me apology tells for you ;p

and if you had an HS key we would have gone to HS it was a real invite...it would be fun to see you two group

[lethstang]

i can definitely say with 100% confidence youve never recieved a tell apologizing for me.

lop your last post in with the other that said we grouped last month in seb, when i just got my key 3 days ago.

you lie so bad and obviously.

[Chanur]

If TMO asks nicely maybe TR will let them have some raid mobs.

[Alarti0001]

What was the date 3 days ago? April right?
I can say with 200% confidence that i have grouped with you and you fail, also that you did not receive a message from a guildie of mine saying I was joking about the HS offer :) Also, the apology was more like ya that dude is kinda weird not a formal apology like on behalf of VD we are sorry :P Its close enuff tho rite?

Either way pics or it didn't happen so if u show me screenies of your shit ill show u screenies of mine... no X rated plz !

[Loly Taa]

If TMO asks nicely maybe TR will let them have some raid mobs.

lol, you read our webpage lately? http://www.themysticalorder.org/

We don't need any handouts bro. I'm surely not going to skip work to run around this server on a 9am repop. It's just a game brah.

[bluejam]

I'd skip my mother's funeral for a shot at Trak :eek:

[xshayla701]

I'd skip my mother's funeral for a shot at Trak :eek:

wow :mad:

[Hasbinbad]

WTB GM to rename < The Mystical Order > to < Creme de la Creme >
Paying well.
PST.

[Loly Taa]

WTB GM to rename < The Mystical Order > to < Creme de la Creme >
Paying well.
PST.

haha, no; Sorry. Never gonna change the name. Not no way, not no how.

I don't see how other guilds so easily give up their identities just to stay afloat. Not worth it imo, if you're gonna fade out. At least do so with dignity and go down fighting.

[Extunarian]

haha, no; Sorry. Never gonna change the name. Not no way, not no how.

I don't see how other guilds so easily give up their identities just to stay afloat. Not worth it imo, if you're gonna fade out. At least do so with dignity and go down fighting.

I don't think he was saying to run from your name....just referencing that linked thread where someone called the TMO guild on Live the 'creme de le creme'.

[Loly Taa]

I don't think he was saying to run from your name....just referencing that linked thread where someone called the TMO guild on Live the 'creme de le creme'.

Sorry, I miss a lot of the threads here and don't quite get all the references people make.

[Chanur]

lol, you read our webpage lately? http://www.themysticalorder.org/

We don't need any handouts bro. I'm surely not going to skip work to run around this server on a 9am repop. It's just a game brah.

I like the Wizard of Oz quote below so kudos on that.

How ever from what I have seen taking off from work wouldn't help you guys in killing Trak.

[Alarti0001]

Up your skills troll...

[Rais]

Give me member access again please Alarti!

[Loly Taa]

I like the Wizard of Oz quote below so kudos on that.

How ever from what I have seen taking off from work wouldn't help you guys in killing Trak.

Huh? TMO has not once ever attempted to race to, or attempted Trak on this server. If you really want to know the reason, I just don't feel it's worthwhile since the spawn time on him here is just plain wrong. Myself and others have provided plenty of evidence that he is a 3 day spawn and he was reverted to a 7 here. I'm not going to beat my head against the wall for that stupid dragon if he's not spawning as frequently as he should be.

[Zeelot]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0je8gqRUh1qbz2gro1_500.jpg

[Chanur]

Huh? TMO has not once ever attempted to race to, or attempted Trak on this server. If you really want to know the reason, I just don't feel it's worthwhile since the spawn time on him here is just plain wrong. Myself and others have provided plenty of evidence that he is a 3 day spawn and he was reverted to a 7 here. I'm not going to beat my head against the wall for that stupid dragon if he's not spawning as frequently as he should be.

Everyone knows its because TR won't wont let you have it. You only get our table scraps tossed down to you.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Everyone knows its because TR won't wont let you have it. You only get our table scraps tossed down to you.


I would never let TR give me scraps, much less ask for Trakanon if I wanted your dragon I'll be fighting for it

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[Chanur]

Ill be on Red99...so Ill be seeing ya!

[Daliant17447]

Holyspawn stole my mage account "Smokemon". It was my fault for giving him the login and eqemu info before recieving payment but I just thought I would throw that out there so people can avoid this douchebag in game.

[Raavak]

All of Holyspawn's wins since 1998 have been vacated.

[Tasslehofp99]

Threads boring, who cares who said what. Grouping in seb just tells us the type of ppl you are! Loot whores never win on EQ.

[Tasslehofp99]

I would never let TR give me scraps, much less ask for Trakanon if I wanted your dragon I'll be fighting for it

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Post-luclin trakanon kill, 0 style points. Cool pvp tho! :p