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axisofebola
02-14-2020, 01:23 PM
There appears to be more spawns in the efreeti cave, specifically right near where efreeti pops, an extra static spawn that I don'r remember being here. There is only supposed to be one static spawn in the cave it's the efreeti/ph. Everything else wanders. But more importantly I seem to recall the imps/guardians are not supposed to see through invis but currently do. Also seem to recall the imps seeing through sneak.

Erati
02-14-2020, 01:25 PM
bug report it w evidence

axisofebola
02-14-2020, 01:44 PM
Well, i wasn't making a statement of fact and only have my memory to go on. Did sony ever change the efreetti or sol b spawns? That could explain both the memory and the implementation currently on p99. I know 100% i remember being able to invis past the stuff there and 100% there being a single static spawn.

mcoy
02-14-2020, 03:03 PM
Pretty sure this is a classic page for the area - do these mobs line up with what you see / remember?

http://www.angelfire.com/or2/relentless/efreeti.html

-Mcoy

axisofebola
02-14-2020, 03:46 PM
Pretty sure this is a classic page for the area - do these mobs line up with what you see / remember?

http://www.angelfire.com/or2/relentless/efreeti.html

-Mcoy

Hmm. unfortunately they make no mention of invis and are pretty vague on what they are considering the efreeti room and the spawns in/near it.

I remember 3 spawns (2 pathers) in the cave. 1 of these pathers always stays over by the efreeti spawn.

I do find it interesting though that at least one of the imps are on a shorter respawn time than the typical 22 solb time on p99, and yet that is not mentioned in that guide at all despite making specific mentions of waiting some time to split spawns. That would be a major consideration of how to split spawns if mobs an area have different respawn times


Also interesting note that the map seems to show ALL the static spawns in that area clearly marked as such. And you can clearly see the efreeti spot has no other static spawn and is the center of the room. While the efreeti is positioned more toward the center of the C-shaped wall, while on p99 it's not positioned there and has that additional static spawn imp next to it..

drdrakes
02-14-2020, 06:44 PM
Not certain but what you're describing sounds like how it was when I played on the TLP in 2011.

Bigsham
02-14-2020, 07:20 PM
they definitley saw invis on classic only difference on p99 even if you break the spawn with X Minutes apart from efreeti and his two friends next to him they almost always spawn together. Not classic.

Fragged
02-14-2020, 07:27 PM
I think there was only 2 in the room, the third was the roamer?

I don't know, I used to solo it on my necro on live and as I remember it, I only had to deal with 3 mobs total.

Either that or the roamer from the hall didn't go all the way back into the efreeti room.

I don't think invis worked as I would always DA up and FD and /q out in the hall.

Also efreeti was the easiest of the mobs on live, not very resistant as opposed to p99 where even at 60 you can hardly land shit on him. My pet would interrupt the long casts most of the time and by the time I had my dots all stacked it was GG (don't even think you can land dots on him on p99 without debuffs?).

shovelquest
02-14-2020, 07:39 PM
Well, i wasn't making a statement of fact and only have my memory to go on.

One thing we all learn around these parts is our memory is all mixed up :o

Did you know the efreeti was originally Sinbad (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/5kw7N4OIm3gJsU7ZUmCWGdhSuyldQu5-CwkE_6sjwYvobPvVTMForrA5zMRqMIFpQNrLRL3ZXLk6NVIqgX 5VjCOm1JlYCjJLq6M8n-6hkKumOv36oUaF-g)? Another thing we cant prove but I just am sure it was. :p

Seducio
02-14-2020, 08:29 PM
SolB Efreeti has been this way on p99 servers quite a while. Here is a bug post I made in 2014. P1999 does have it right from my memory of classic.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145241

Basically five total mobs to worry about every 22 min if you are camping in his room:

1. There is an outer roamer (22 min) who spawns at his cave entrance and roams to one of sides of his room.
2. There is a inner roamer (22 min) spawns in middle of efreeti room. Roams out of cave.
3. / 4. There are two imp guards (20min) spawn either side of him.
5. Efreeti (22 min) himself - ph could be imp or lava guardien.

If you know what you are doing you can position on one side of the room and deal with 4 mobs by avoiding Outer roamer pathing. Dealing with all 5 mobs is safer tho to avoid surprises.

Soloing this room before Kunark would be an amazing feat of luck and clickies.

axisofebola
02-15-2020, 06:33 AM
if people actually remember it being this way, when/way did they so drastically change it. I would imagine this had to have happened during the luclin+ era... but I didn't even play in that era so how the hell do I remember it being so different?

shovelquest
02-15-2020, 02:07 PM
Soloing this room before Kunark would be an amazing feat of luck and clickies.

I can't imagine a level 50 soloing it pre kunark unless maybe we were pre kunark for 10 years haha

Bigsham
02-15-2020, 06:37 PM
a level 50 will never solo efreeti he casts ice comet and conflag and other big shit

Seducio
02-15-2020, 06:52 PM
it’s been done. soulfire is pre kunark

LostCause
02-15-2020, 06:53 PM
There appears to be more spawns in the efreeti cave, specifically right near where efreeti pops, an extra static spawn that I don'r remember being here. There is only supposed to be one static spawn in the cave it's the efreeti/ph. Everything else wanders. But more importantly I seem to recall the imps/guardians are not supposed to see through invis but currently do. Also seem to recall the imps seeing through sneak.

you recall LUL

Seducio
02-15-2020, 07:30 PM
Three types of characters could solo it before kunark:

1. Enchanter with Soulfire
2. Cleric with Puppet Strings
3. Any class level 50 with Soulfire and Puppet Strings and Root Nets

Like I said before... an amazing feat with luck and clickies.

shovelquest
02-15-2020, 10:48 PM
Three types of characters could solo it before kunark:

1. Enchanter with Soulfire
2. Cleric with Puppet Strings
3. Any class level 50 with Soulfire and Puppet Strings and Root Nets

Like I said before... an amazing feat with luck and clickies.

I guess it could be done. I stand corrected.

Seducio
02-16-2020, 12:01 AM
it was done on blue. it will be done here. your imagination on the matter need not apply

Wallicker
02-16-2020, 12:06 AM
Druid could prob do it with a soulfire and a bat

DMN
02-16-2020, 04:57 AM
Druid could prob do it with a soulfire and a bat

There is no way for a druid to separate the efreeti room or even make it up the imp ramp. And those bats are fairly weak compared to imps and certainly will be even weaker against efreeti. Average bat versus average imp = imp winning with 85% life left.

Wallicker
02-16-2020, 11:53 AM
There is no way for a druid to separate the efreeti room or even make it up the imp ramp. And those bats are fairly weak compared to imps and certainly will be even weaker against efreeti. Average bat versus average imp = imp winning with 85% life left.

There are creative ways for Druid to split that camp using a combination of root/snare/gate. Also nothing summons so you could snare dot and flame lick kite mob and bat wouldn’t take dmg... it would be extremely difficult and RNG dependant though. The real question would be could you get a full duration charm on a bat and could you get a midnight mallet to land on efreeti. If all these things happened bat could kill efreeti with 6 CHs soulfire and reaper.

Erati
02-16-2020, 12:49 PM
Efreeti kicks ass solo ing even at lvl 60...and thats w basically none of his spells landing.

He is a true Efreeti Lord.

Bigsham
02-16-2020, 07:17 PM
it was done on blue. it will be done here. your imagination on the matter need not apply

Not at 50

Seducio
02-16-2020, 07:52 PM
bigsham - you are trolling

DMN
02-16-2020, 08:09 PM
I already solo'd it with enchanter on green a couple rounds months ago. lost a couple of -mr sets in the process too. Had more deaths getting to efreeti than killing him. Unfortunately the zone is now so full of morons I won't be back for some time.

fadetree
02-17-2020, 10:19 AM
Yeah, but everybody loves a crowded server, right? Not worth playing if the pop is under 1000.