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eqravenprince
02-11-2020, 05:21 PM
Maybe this has been posted before, but posting again.


Race Class Race Mod Class Mod Total Exp Mod
Barbarian Rogue 105% 91% 96%
Barbarian Shaman 105% 100% 105%
Barbarian Warrior 105% 90% 95%
Dark Elf Cleric 100% 100% 100%
Dark Elf Enchanter 100% 110% 110%
Dark Elf Magician 100% 110% 110%
Dark Elf Necromancer 100% 110% 110%
Dark Elf Rogue 100% 91% 91%
Dark Elf Shadow Knight 100% 140% 140%
Dark Elf Warrior 100% 90% 90%
Dark Elf Wizard 100% 110% 110%
Dwarf Cleric 100% 100% 100%
Dwarf Paladin 100% 140% 140%
Dwarf Rogue 100% 100% 100%
Dwarf Warrior 100% 100% 100%
Erudite Cleric 100% 100% 100%
Erudite Enchanter 100% 110% 110%
Erudite Magician 100% 110% 110%
Erudite Necromancer 100% 110% 110%
Erudite Paladin 100% 140% 140%
Erudite Shadow Knight 100% 140% 140%
Erudite Wizard 100% 110% 110%
Gnome Cleric 100% 100% 100%
Gnome Enchanter 100% 110% 110%
Gnome Magician 100% 110% 110%
Gnome Necromancer 100% 110% 110%
Gnome Rogue 100% 100% 100%
Gnome Warrior 100% 100% 100%
Gnome Wizard 100% 110% 110%
Half Elf Bard 100% 140% 140%
Half Elf Druid 100% 100% 100%
Half Elf Paladin 100% 140% 140%
Half Elf Ranger 100% 140% 140%
Half Elf Rogue 100% 100% 100%
Half Elf Warrior 100% 100% 100%
Halfling Cleric 95% 100% 95%
Halfling Druid 95% 100% 95%
Halfling Rogue 95% 91% 86%
Halfling Warrior 95% 90% 86%
High Elf Cleric 100% 100% 100%
High Elf Enchanter 100% 110% 110%
High Elf Magician 100% 110% 110%
High Elf Paladin 100% 140% 140%
High Elf Wizard 100% 110% 110%
Human Bard 100% 140% 140%
Human Cleric 100% 100% 100%
Human Druid 100% 100% 100%
Human Enchanter 100% 110% 110%
Human Magician 100% 110% 110%
Human Monk 100% 120% 120%
Human Necromancer 100% 110% 110%
Human Paladin 100% 140% 140%
Human Ranger 100% 140% 140%
Human Rogue 100% 91% 91%
Human Shadow Knight 100% 140% 140%
Human Warrior 100% 90% 90%
Human Wizard 100% 110% 110%
Ogre Shadow Knight 115% 140% 161%
Ogre Shaman 115% 100% 115%
Ogre Warrior 115% 90% 104%
Troll Shadow Knight 120% 140% 168%
Troll Shaman 120% 100% 120%
Troll Warrior 120% 90% 108%
Wood Elf Bard 100% 140% 140%
Wood Elf Druid 100% 100% 100%
Wood Elf Ranger 100% 140% 140%
Wood Elf Rogue 100% 91% 91%
Wood Elf Warrior 100% 90% 90%

Swish
02-11-2020, 05:23 PM
Would you level one troll SK to 50 or a halfling warrior and rogue in not much extra time? :p

eqravenprince
02-11-2020, 05:44 PM
I always wished EQ would have a switch to allow group leader to share group experience equally or not so that hybrids weren't excluded simply because of the exp penalty. So Troll SK joins a group of Halflings, sure they may gain a couple levels when he only gains one, but at least he got into the group in the first place.

cornisthebest
02-11-2020, 06:58 PM
if i could change one thing about the server, it would be class xp penalty. hybrids already have it bad enough :(

Keebz
02-11-2020, 07:35 PM
Hybrids are only bringing a 6-11% penalty to the group. Is it worth it? Do they make your group 6-11% more efficient? Depends on the needs of the group. A good bard or tank or puller might.

Frug
02-11-2020, 08:17 PM
Hybrids are only bringing a 6-11% penalty to the group. Is it worth it? Do they make your group 6-11% more efficient? Depends on the needs of the group. A good bard or tank or puller might.

That calculus only works if you have mobs as fast as you can kill them.

Keebz
02-11-2020, 10:02 PM
As I said, it depends on the needs of the group.

cd288
02-11-2020, 11:02 PM
Hybrids are only bringing a 6-11% penalty to the group. Is it worth it? Do they make your group 6-11% more efficient? Depends on the needs of the group. A good bard or tank or puller might.

Where'd that math come from? Are you considering a "group" to be 4 or more people? Plus the racial penalty if they are a Troll or Ogre would increase it as well.

Keebz
02-11-2020, 11:34 PM
I'm just dividing the class penalties by 6, but it's really not that simple and that approach honestly paints hybrids in a worse light than they are. This post is much more accurate https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334590

One take away is you may want the players with exp penalties to be on the lower level range for the group.

Hazek
02-12-2020, 02:31 AM
Someone 3+ levels higher takes more exp than a hybrid of equal level. Remember that.

Each group member you add takes a cut of the exp, but you get a 2% exp bonus.

Your share of the split depends on total exp from level 1 for that character. Whoever has more total exp takes a bigger cut.

cd288
02-12-2020, 11:03 AM
Someone 3+ levels higher takes more exp than a hybrid of equal level. Remember that.

Each group member you add takes a cut of the exp, but you get a 2% exp bonus.

Your share of the split depends on total exp from level 1 for that character. Whoever has more total exp takes a bigger cut.

My understanding was there was no exp bonus on Blue or Green for additional group members. I guess I'm wrong?

Smellybuttface
02-12-2020, 11:58 AM
My understanding was there was no exp bonus on Blue or Green for additional group members. I guess I'm wrong?

The only information I've found is from the P99 Wiki:
http://wiki.project1999.com/Experience

"However, through the magic of the group bonus, for each person in the group beyond the first, the pie gets a little bit bigger (2% bigger in fact)."

From reading a few forum posts and from my own experience, it's such a negligible gain as to be almost entirely discounted.

Evidently in the 2003 era, EQ upped this bonus by a decent amount to make grouping with additional people much more attractive, but that era is outside the scope of P99.