How can this game be any fun when the community is so sh*ty?

[sigustron]

I tried this game back when green launched. It was then when I met this community and wasn't impressed. All you did was cry to gms about getting your camps taken from you like children.

I gave it a few months. Maybe I was wrong everyone deserves a second change, right?

Wrong!

I came back here hoping that I was wrong about the community. That all the posts on reddit about how toxic and clique-y it was was just disgruntled players.

I was wrong.

You people are just a bunch of spoiled brats. You won't help new players to save your lives. You either ignore people out right or you just tell them to fuck off. You all act like this and expect people to play here?

I understand why you all act like this. Most of you were probably locked in a room with your new shiney computer that mommy and daddy bought you along with a sub to this game and you were handed every fucking thing. You are probably mostly only children who never had to share a goddamn thing. They way you people act is truly pathetic. I know your real life sucks so you have to come on a 20 year old video game just to validate your lives.

Some people just want to have fun and play a game. You people sit there and talk about the social "experiences" this game is supposed to be about yet, every experience I have had is a goddamn shit show.

This game would be so much better if you people knew how to act like decent human beings. This server would have a fuck ton of new players too. But, no, you greedy asses can't even stop what your doing to help new players because "I don't have to. Twenty years ago mommy and daddy said it was mine and I don't have share! Hmh!"

Keep your fucking game and your fucking community. I hope this shit gets wiped in the worse possible way so I can see you all come back here crying about how you lost your precious characters. You'd probably spend your days crying to the gms like you cry to them about everything.

[Dolalin]

If everywhere you go you find problems, maybe it's you who's the problem. Just saying.

[Octopath]

If everywhere you go you find problems, maybe it's you who's the problem. Just saying.

My thoughts exactly.

[Nuggie]

In before RnF.

Also, @OP - I think this game isn't for you. There's nothing wrong with a 20 year old game not being your niche.

Also, be the community you want to see.

[Tecmos Deception]

If everywhere you go you find problems, maybe it's you who's the problem. Just saying.

Also, you tend to find what you're looking for. 95% or more of the individuals on p99 are just fine. Plenty of folks are helpful. If you don't understand this, it's because you don't want to understand this, not because it is untrue.

[Fawqueue]

To me this post reads as if you intentionally waited to join the server and got immediately pissed that the people that did not wait aren't showering you with freebies and helping make your experience more enjoyable. That isn't their obligation, and you should try to be a part of this community rather than take advantage of it. Maybe then it wouldn't feel like everyone is telling you to 'fuck off'.

[Tecmos Deception]

I'd like to see OP's logs and screenshots of all these horrible people telling a newbie to fuck off.

[Smellybuttface]

Some pretty broad strokes here....do you have anything specific to rant against, or is this just a “You people” flame?

You keep mentioning people not helping new players. What kind of help were you expecting? When I started on Green I had someone randomly hand me a few pieces of bronze and about 50 plat within 10 minutes or so of playing. A lot of people do stuff like this, in addition to buffing/porting noobs. I think you’re in the very far minority.

[Lupa]

I have a great time,

I run around buff newbies, give em like 10 plat so they can buy bags. Uber sham buff em up, chat with them, let them loot Aku Bar boxes. U must demand so much shit, people tell you to fuck off. You are not entitled

[zaneosak]

There's alot of assholes on p99 but there's many more friendly people. I'd say the ratio is about 10:1 friendly to asshole. Maybe 7:1 at max level. But still the assholes are the minority.

[eqravenprince]

Because of the community, by the time I was level 3, I had a Box of Abu-Kar, Crude Stein, fine steel weapon of each type 1hs, 1hb, 2hs, 2hb, piercing, and over 100pp just running to sell stuff for high level players. I frequently get buffs without asking. Not sure what experience the OP has had, but mine is the opposite.

[OuterChimp]

OP, I'm sorry you feel that way. I have had good interactions with folks.

I've found if you don't expect anything from anyone, then if you do get offered soemthing, then good to go. Oh well if you don't.

[Cen]

I dont remember anyone being mean to me outside of 1 or 2 times in the past years or so. The funny thing is both instances were on seperate occasions from someone in the same guild so it may have been one specific awful person, because they were attacking everyone I ever saw interact with them and they hated dial a porters like me so id hear them complain constantly.

The most common thing I notice is people who ignore you keeping their head down if you try to talk to them. That's not toxicity, thats someone who's busy

[Castle2.0]

Gave out a sheer bone mask and Najena robe to a newbie necro in WK. Tossed 25 dmg DS on newbs in eruds crossing.

Don't join the /list dude, your luck must be bad.

[sycopata666]

Mmm, sems just your experience, i experienced so much help from people, people gifting buff to new players, and people gifting items, tips etc.., green is a little more competitive and blue is so much solo in low lvls, and forum are the land of "boredom and trolls" but majority of people are so much nice, include in forums you can find people creating content for help new players and being really originals and fun, and if some one no want help you, you just have to deal with it. And wait wile why probably in a few some one is going to help you.

[Asteria]

Don't listen to them OP! These are the SAME exact topic jerks who gave you a really hard time in game! They will follow you all over the internet to grief you. You need to change your whole entire identity to survive. You may need 5 VPNs to be safe.

PM me if you need advice concocting your brand new persona to play in safety. :)

[Asteria]

I'd like to see OP's logs and screenshots of all these horrible people telling a newbie to fuck off.

Doxxer! Ugh

[Evets]

LOL I didn't read the whole post but I got the gist of it... you met some meanies who wouldn't buff you so you come and say everyone on the server is a piece of shit.

I get along with 99% of the players here and that 1% are pretty much going out of their way to be a douche and get /ignored.

People generally don't like it when you walk into their camp and steal their exp and/or items... it doesn't make them a baby if they get the GM's on you ass because they cant beat your ass like they would if you tried that kind of shit in the real world.

And what a stroke of genius coming to some of the most toxic people from the server to try to get sympathy.

[solleks]

Sorry you are weak and have no weiner op

[Erati]

I tried this game back when green launched. It was then when I met this community and wasn't impressed. All you did was cry to gms about getting your camps taken from you like children.

I gave it a few months. Maybe I was wrong everyone deserves a second change, right?

Wrong!

I came back here hoping that I was wrong about the community. That all the posts on reddit about how toxic and clique-y it was was just disgruntled players.

I was wrong.

You people are just a bunch of spoiled brats. You won't help new players to save your lives. You either ignore people out right or you just tell them to fuck off. You all act like this and expect people to play here?

I understand why you all act like this. Most of you were probably locked in a room with your new shiney computer that mommy and daddy bought you along with a sub to this game and you were handed every fucking thing. You are probably mostly only children who never had to share a goddamn thing. They way you people act is truly pathetic. I know your real life sucks so you have to come on a 20 year old video game just to validate your lives.

Some people just want to have fun and play a game. You people sit there and talk about the social "experiences" this game is supposed to be about yet, every experience I have had is a goddamn shit show.

This game would be so much better if you people knew how to act like decent human beings. This server would have a fuck ton of new players too. But, no, you greedy asses can't even stop what your doing to help new players because "I don't have to. Twenty years ago mommy and daddy said it was mine and I don't have share! Hmh!"

Keep your fucking game and your fucking community. I hope this shit gets wiped in the worse possible way so I can see you all come back here crying about how you lost your precious characters. You'd probably spend your days crying to the gms like you cry to them about everything.


Umm where did you have this kind of experience again? Crushbone?

[silo32]

Idk I buff randoms and give out mid lvl gear to new player's.

In conclusion op is a fay gate

[dwmaze]

Umm where did you have this kind of experience again? Crushbone?

I just came from Crushbone and it was wonderful. Must be somewhere else.

[drdrakes]

When I started on green I used patchwork armor I made and a rusty scimitar until about level 35. Never had a sow or port I didn't cast myself and never got a buff from a higher level to help me level.

I've seen plenty of low levels demand 1000 mana in buffs and get super pissy when they get ignored, are you one of them?

[cd288]

I tried this game back when green launched. It was then when I met this community and wasn't impressed. All you did was cry to gms about getting your camps taken from you like children.

You'd probably spend your days crying to the gms like you cry to them about everything.

I'm really confused here. You say the community is shitty, but based on your post it seems like you were stealing peoples' camps and griefing them...and you're made they're upset about it and reported you? Lollll

[Kohedron]

Oh, so OP broke the rules and got punished for it, I understand now

[Gozuk]

That was hilarious thank you lol

[sigustron]

No I didnt break any rules. And there have been a few people helping me. One guy even gave me 60pp but I can't touch it anymore because I hate the dark elf starting area and I can't touch it now. And I'll admit I was a bit frustrated when I wrote that post and I am sorry for that.

I love this game. I love not having to follow gold exclamation marks around and killing or gathering x thing to give to random bob. I love how there isn't an implied rush to end game.

I am just so frustrated that I have a small fortune and I can't touch it because the dark elf starting area is the video game version of hell. Hardly any mobs, big ass golems just wanting to crush you into the ground for being in their sight. I have begged people to help me get it but, all I get is "Roll a dark elf" and its like "I fucking hate that race."

I tried rolling a gnome Necro but, that turned disastrous when I got too close to a guy that didnt like necros and got killed with all my money and loot too close to him. I begged for help and I was just ignored. One guy, another newb, even sacrificed himself to help me try to get it when no one else would.

I am sorry. I love this game but, there are times like these that make me want to just fully uninstall the game.

[Crevex]

It doesn't sound like you "love this game". In fact, if getting lost in Nek forest or w/e you're on about is the cause of such frustration, you will absolutely not enjoy the game. The community is what you make of it. 95% of the people are mad chill land happy to help.

[Kavious]

You can make level 1 alts that are not kos to drag your corpse for you in situations like Nek Forest. You can consent offline characters (even your own alts). Consent and then swap to your alt to drag it to safety

[cd288]

No I didnt break any rules. And there have been a few people helping me. One guy even gave me 60pp but I can't touch it anymore because I hate the dark elf starting area and I can't touch it now. And I'll admit I was a bit frustrated when I wrote that post and I am sorry for that.

I love this game. I love not having to follow gold exclamation marks around and killing or gathering x thing to give to random bob. I love how there isn't an implied rush to end game.

I am just so frustrated that I have a small fortune and I can't touch it because the dark elf starting area is the video game version of hell. Hardly any mobs, big ass golems just wanting to crush you into the ground for being in their sight. I have begged people to help me get it but, all I get is "Roll a dark elf" and its like "I fucking hate that race."

I tried rolling a gnome Necro but, that turned disastrous when I got too close to a guy that didnt like necros and got killed with all my money and loot too close to him. I begged for help and I was just ignored. One guy, another newb, even sacrificed himself to help me try to get it when no one else would.

I am sorry. I love this game but, there are times like these that make me want to just fully uninstall the game.

Okay so to clarify, when you say you can't touch it is that because you died in or around Neriak on the character that had the money and it's on your corpse? Or is it because you put it in the bank?

If you put it in the bank, your character's bank can be accessed from any other bank in the world. So you could go to the Freeport bank, for example, and your cash would be in the bank there as well (only on that character though of course...you don't share banks across different characters).

If the issue is that you died and can't get to your corpse because you're kill on sight in Neriak then you have a couple options. Someone can drag your corpse to a safer area of the zone (I could create a dark elf, or run there on my main character, and do this for you at some point if you want) so that you can loot it or you could create a dark elf yourself and I think you can type /consent [that character name] on the char whose corpse you need dragged, then go re-log into the dark elf char, and drag it that way.

[lubyen13]

EVERQUEST IS HARD OMG! I played for 1 day and didn't get max level. And i begged for someone to PL me and give me gears and nobody did. I QUIT! While there are definitely cliques on these servers, tons of people are willing to help. Feels like the OP is throwing the tantrum here.

[Tecmos Deception]

No I didnt break any rules. And there have been a few people helping me. One guy even gave me 60pp but I can't touch it anymore because I hate the dark elf starting area and I can't touch it now. And I'll admit I was a bit frustrated when I wrote that post and I am sorry for that.

I love this game. I love not having to follow gold exclamation marks around and killing or gathering x thing to give to random bob. I love how there isn't an implied rush to end game.

I am just so frustrated that I have a small fortune and I can't touch it because the dark elf starting area is the video game version of hell. Hardly any mobs, big ass golems just wanting to crush you into the ground for being in their sight. I have begged people to help me get it but, all I get is "Roll a dark elf" and its like "I fucking hate that race."

I tried rolling a gnome Necro but, that turned disastrous when I got too close to a guy that didnt like necros and got killed with all my money and loot too close to him. I begged for help and I was just ignored. One guy, another newb, even sacrificed himself to help me try to get it when no one else would.

I am sorry. I love this game but, there are times like these that make me want to just fully uninstall the game.

You sound like you need to acquaint yourself with the newbie guides on the wiki, slow yourself down, be more patient, and join a leveling guild where you can ask questions. Cause boy, have you got a lot of things wrong.

You're making newbie mistakes (like apparently attacking golems as a dark elf, cause they won't normally attack you, or wandering close to "good" NPCs as an evil PC) and then going into a frothing-at-the-mouth frenzy on the forums when you didn't instantly get your hand held through the very beginning, simplest stages of the game.

[Smellybuttface]

I guess 60pp being a “small fortune” is all relative, but are you saying you can’t transfer it to another character? A lot of people could help you transfer some plat to a new character. Even Dial a Porters can help transferring gear to another character if you drop them a tip. Hell, I’ve got a character camped in EC, I could help transfer for you.

Sounds like you had quite a bit of help as a newb. Someone gave you 60pp (spell money to cover at least to mid-teens), someone else sacrificed themselves trying to get your corpse...what else are you trying to get??

You don’t have to level in Nek Forest. You can grab a port to Gfay, have someone bind you outside Kelethin guard range, and go fight in Crushbone. Or Blackburrow by Qeynos. And if you have questions about game mechanics that can’t be answered from the Wiki, ask away in the “Starting Zone” forum.

Still confused how such minor inconveniences would prompt such a visceral response, or make you want to uninstall.

[Bigsham]

Its very sad how many people will not get to enjoy this project because they play the blue server.

Red is so much better, you join a little group of players or a guild and you fight against the other guilds, people actually care about getting you geared up and you are always included in stuff thats happening because you need numbers to hold stuff down.

its a shame most of you dont have any fun on this project.

[RipVanFish]

I tried this game back when green launched. It was then when I met this community and wasn't impressed. All you did was cry to gms about getting your camps taken from you like children.

I gave it a few months. Maybe I was wrong everyone deserves a second change, right?

Wrong!

I came back here hoping that I was wrong about the community. That all the posts on reddit about how toxic and clique-y it was was just disgruntled players.

I was wrong.

You people are just a bunch of spoiled brats. You won't help new players to save your lives. You either ignore people out right or you just tell them to fuck off. You all act like this and expect people to play here?

I understand why you all act like this. Most of you were probably locked in a room with your new shiney computer that mommy and daddy bought you along with a sub to this game and you were handed every fucking thing. You are probably mostly only children who never had to share a goddamn thing. They way you people act is truly pathetic. I know your real life sucks so you have to come on a 20 year old video game just to validate your lives.

Some people just want to have fun and play a game. You people sit there and talk about the social "experiences" this game is supposed to be about yet, every experience I have had is a goddamn shit show.

This game would be so much better if you people knew how to act like decent human beings. This server would have a fuck ton of new players too. But, no, you greedy asses can't even stop what your doing to help new players because "I don't have to. Twenty years ago mommy and daddy said it was mine and I don't have share! Hmh!"

Keep your fucking game and your fucking community. I hope this shit gets wiped in the worse possible way so I can see you all come back here crying about how you lost your precious characters. You'd probably spend your days crying to the gms like you cry to them about everything.

Edit: I guess that was mean, but still, this game is not easy mode and there are plenty of folks who
will help you out. I can toss you a few hundred plat and answer some questions if you like.

[Smellybuttface]

Its very sad how many people will not get to enjoy this project because they play the blue server.

Red is so much better, you join a little group of players or a guild and you fight against the other guilds, people actually care about getting you geared up and you are always included in stuff thats happening because you need numbers to hold stuff down.

its a shame most of you dont have any fun on this project.

I’ve seen you make this same statement multiple times. Why do you even go to the blue or green message boards? You’re not convincing anyone to play on the 30 player pop wasteland of Red. Do you even play on Green or do you just come here to troll?

[Issar]

I'd like to see OP's logs and screenshots of all these horrible people telling a newbie to fuck off.

WTF dude, you trying to get me banned???

[Whirled]

Is thus R or F? Asking for a friend

[El-Hefe]

Sounds like OP has anger issues.

He's frustrated about his newbie area so his first thought is to lash out at the community because reasons.

[cd288]

its a shame most of you dont have any fun on this project.

Lol wut? We all have tons of fun on this project :) hence why the pop on green is in the 4 figures!

This statement sounds like the statement of someone who is salty that everyone is having fun on the other servers and not playing on red lol

[sigustron]

Okay so to clarify, when you say you can't touch it is that because you died in or around Neriak on the character that had the money and it's on your corpse? Or is it because you put it in the bank?

If you put it in the bank, your character's bank can be accessed from any other bank in the world. So you could go to the Freeport bank, for example, and your cash would be in the bank there as well (only on that character though of course...you don't share banks across different characters).

If the issue is that you died and can't get to your corpse because you're kill on sight in Neriak then you have a couple options. Someone can drag your corpse to a safer area of the zone (I could create a dark elf, or run there on my main character, and do this for you at some point if you want) so that you can loot it or you could create a dark elf yourself and I think you can type /consent [that character name] on the char whose corpse you need dragged, then go re-log into the dark elf char, and drag it that way.

I didn't die and it's not on a corpse. I am not that stupid lol. It's in the bank but, I don't have a toon that's strong enough to go in there and get it. I'd like to give it to main druid/halfling main. The only way to do that is to trust another player with it which, no offense, I'm not exactly fond of doing. However, if someone could help me achieve this I'd be more than happy to pay them 10pp for their hassle and from what I have gathered doing this is a pretty big hassle

To those saying that I'm having a fit cause the game is too hard: I played UO before pvp was optional So, no the game isn't too hard. Nice try trying to shame me for havi g a life and being unable to dedicate my life to this game.

As I said I love this game. I couldn't play it when it came out because of some personal-family-financial issues. I was poor back in those days. I had to share the UO account with a friend of mine back in the day.

I've totally stopped playing wow because of this game.i even tried EQ live and it's a total shitshow. I lasted maybe 15 minutes before I got back on here.

[Evets]

Glad you've calmed down a bit :).
Starting out new in EQ can be daunting there is a slight learning curve. Many people playing have 20 years of experience so they may be short tempered to things like this (the vast minority mind you).

When looking for help you should ask if anyone can help you as your just starting and haven't played before as they may be more forgiving.
A Lot of the time there are low level players but not new players to the game just looking for a hand out not real help or advice and that can wear some peoples patience thin.

[creekside]

I have had a majority of cool people help me out, give me gear, port me for free, buffs, and help me through rough areas. I try to help others when I can. I am sorry you had such bad experiences. I love this community, I feel like we are a bunch of dads unplugging from adulting for a bit when I hop in.

[Tecmos Deception]

I didn't die and it's not on a corpse. I am not that stupid lol. It's in the bank but, I don't have a toon that's strong enough to go in there and get it. I'd like to give it to main druid/halfling main. The only way to do that is to trust another player with it which, no offense, I'm not exactly fond of doing. However, if someone could help me achieve this I'd be more than happy to pay them 10pp for their hassle and from what I have gathered doing this is a pretty big hassle

To those saying that I'm having a fit cause the game is too hard: I played UO before pvp was optional So, no the game isn't too hard. Nice try trying to shame me for havi g a life and being unable to dedicate my life to this game.

As I said I love this game. I couldn't play it when it came out because of some personal-family-financial issues. I was poor back in those days. I had to share the UO account with a friend of mine back in the day.

I've totally stopped playing wow because of this game.i even tried EQ live and it's a total shitshow. I lasted maybe 15 minutes before I got back on here.

I'm just gonna come out and say it. You're bad and you should feel bad.

It's nearly fucking trivial to fetch plat out of the bank in neriak and get it transferred to a new character. You don't need to be higher than level 1. You don't need to dedicate your life to the game. You just have to be even a little thoughtful (to figure it out for yourself) or polite (to ask for and receive helpful advice). You don't even need to trust another player, and doing so would cost you even less of your 60pp or whatever than a 10pp payment would to boot.

But you are not being a little thoughtful OR polite. You're being stupid, carrying on and on about how awesome you are and how it couldn't possibly be your fault that you can't figure out a little ingame issue that everyone else here knows how to deal with with ease, and making up excuses that are combined with ad hominems to rationalize your failure, etc. I mean, cd288 gave you legit advice based on the limited information you've provided, but you basically spit in his face rather than doing things like a well-adjusted social creature would and elaborating on your situation while nicely asking for assistance figuring things out.

[silo32]

dad server for sure

[Madbad]

consider red

[silo32]

try teal

[Natewest1987]

I’m surprised how tame most of these responses are to this temper tantrum.

[Modwolf]

I’m surprised how tame most of these responses are to this temper tantrum.

I was expecting more as well. Tecmos is handling it for everyone.

[Natewest1987]

I didn't die and it's not on a corpse. I am not that stupid lol. It's in the bank but, I don't have a toon that's strong enough to go in there and get it. I'd like to give it to main druid/halfling main. The only way to do that is to trust another player with it which, no offense, I'm not exactly fond of doing. However, if someone could help me achieve this I'd be more than happy to pay them 10pp for their hassle and from what I have gathered doing this is a pretty big hassle

To those saying that I'm having a fit cause the game is too hard: I played UO before pvp was optional So, no the game isn't too hard. Nice try trying to shame me for havi g a life and being unable to dedicate my life to this game.

As I said I love this game. I couldn't play it when it came out because of some personal-family-financial issues. I was poor back in those days. I had to share the UO account with a friend of mine back in the day.

I've totally stopped playing wow because of this game.i even tried EQ live and it's a total shitshow. I lasted maybe 15 minutes before I got back on here.

Let me be the first to shame you for making a giant post blaming everyone else for your own mistakes and misunderstandings around game mechanics which none of us invented. Who cares if you’re a newb, welcome aboard, but take some of your own advice and be an adult too.

Edit. I read the rest of this page. Thank god TD is on it lol. I can’t even right now ��

[Modwolf]

To those saying that I'm having a fit cause the game is too hard: I played UO before pvp was optional So, no the game isn't too hard. Nice try trying to shame me for havi g a life and being unable to dedicate my life to this game.

[Asteria]

When I started on green I used patchwork armor I made and a rusty scimitar until about level 35. Never had a sow or port I didn't cast myself and never got a buff from a higher level to help me level.

I've seen plenty of low levels demand 1000 mana in buffs and get super pissy when they get ignored, are you one of them?

Good point and good on you going legit so long here. :) I have occasionally run into super demanding people too. Although I think they were 1 in 10 maybe of total experiences I had helping lowbies and newbs out with a simple buff or cheap item giveaway etc.

Sorry I said retarded things about you and your partner in your manastone thread. I don't want any forgiveness or understanding from you but just wanted to apologize. I've not been in the best of health but that is no excuse. :o

[Asteria]

LMAO if this OP is a real person.... :D

Buuuut 5/5 stars if this a forumquest RP alt.... perfect length rant for almost everybody to read, *just enough* backstory about growing up sorta poor/accusing others of being spoiled children etc, sharing accounts as a kid. Damn OP, if this was just a spontaneous creation you need to write a novel or short stories. I'd buy your $10 kindle book to give ur fiction another try maybe.

[sedrie.bellamie]

The only way to do that is to trust another player with it which, no offense, I'm not exactly fond of doing.

play an MMO and don't want to interact with people

go outside

this game isnt for you

[BlackBellamy]

The assholes are easy to remember because there are so few of them.

Since day one on Green my list of absolute shitheads is at three, and I haven't seen two of those guys in more than a month.

[Mblake81]

LMAO if this OP is a real person.... :D

Buuuut 5/5 stars if this a forumquest RP alt.... perfect length rant for almost everybody to read, *just enough* backstory about growing up sorta poor/accusing others of being spoiled children etc, sharing accounts as a kid. Damn OP, if this was just a spontaneous creation you need to write a novel or short stories. I'd buy your $10 kindle book to give ur fiction another try maybe.

I favor how Bandcamp (https://bandcamp.com/) does this. For example you can listen to any album or song. The standard is digital but some artists will release on cassette, vinyl, CD. Some go even further into the weird formats like MiniDisc, 3.5 Floppy for computer, Reel. Priced accordingly and usually in limited amounts. If something proves popular enough it will get a re-release.

If Steam did this with computer games I would gripe slightly less. (but that still doesn't remove consolitus)

So anyway, books (https://twitter.com/SorceryWs) and film.

[lordpazuzu]

I tried this game back when green launched. It was then when I met this community and wasn't impressed. All you did was cry to gms about getting your camps taken from you like children.

I gave it a few months. Maybe I was wrong everyone deserves a second change, right?

Wrong!

I came back here hoping that I was wrong about the community. That all the posts on reddit about how toxic and clique-y it was was just disgruntled players.

I was wrong.

You people are just a bunch of spoiled brats. You won't help new players to save your lives. You either ignore people out right or you just tell them to fuck off. You all act like this and expect people to play here?

I understand why you all act like this. Most of you were probably locked in a room with your new shiney computer that mommy and daddy bought you along with a sub to this game and you were handed every fucking thing. You are probably mostly only children who never had to share a goddamn thing. They way you people act is truly pathetic. I know your real life sucks so you have to come on a 20 year old video game just to validate your lives.

Some people just want to have fun and play a game. You people sit there and talk about the social "experiences" this game is supposed to be about yet, every experience I have had is a goddamn shit show.

This game would be so much better if you people knew how to act like decent human beings. This server would have a fuck ton of new players too. But, no, you greedy asses can't even stop what your doing to help new players because "I don't have to. Twenty years ago mommy and daddy said it was mine and I don't have share! Hmh!"

Keep your fucking game and your fucking community. I hope this shit gets wiped in the worse possible way so I can see you all come back here crying about how you lost your precious characters. You'd probably spend your days crying to the gms like you cry to them about everything.

Damn, with such an amazing personality, I can't believe you're having such a hard time with other people.

[drdrakes]

Good point and good on you going legit so long here. :) I have occasionally run into super demanding people too. Although I think they were 1 in 10 maybe of total experiences I had helping lowbies and newbs out with a simple buff or cheap item giveaway etc.

Sorry I said retarded things about you and your partner in your manastone thread. I don't want any forgiveness or understanding from you but just wanted to apologize. I've not been in the best of health but that is no excuse. :o

Hey, no worries. Hope you feel better!

[Asteria]

I favor how Bandcamp (https://bandcamp.com/) does this. For example you can listen to any album or song. The standard is digital but some artists will release on cassette, vinyl, CD. Some go even further into the weird formats like MiniDisc, 3.5 Floppy for computer, Reel. Priced accordingly and usually in limited amounts. If something proves popular enough it will get a re-release.

If Steam did this with computer games I would gripe slightly less. (but that still doesn't remove consolitus)

So anyway, books (https://twitter.com/SorceryWs) and film.

Cool links, TY. Need to take a look at those places for sure later after I get some rest.

Hey, no worries. Hope you feel better!

Thanks!

[cd288]

I didn't die and it's not on a corpse. I am not that stupid lol. It's in the bank but, I don't have a toon that's strong enough to go in there and get it. I'd like to give it to main druid/halfling main. The only way to do that is to trust another player with it which, no offense, I'm not exactly fond of doing. However, if someone could help me achieve this I'd be more than happy to pay them 10pp for their hassle and from what I have gathered doing this is a pretty big hassle

To those saying that I'm having a fit cause the game is too hard: I played UO before pvp was optional So, no the game isn't too hard. Nice try trying to shame me for havi g a life and being unable to dedicate my life to this game.

As I said I love this game. I couldn't play it when it came out because of some personal-family-financial issues. I was poor back in those days. I had to share the UO account with a friend of mine back in the day.

I've totally stopped playing wow because of this game.i even tried EQ live and it's a total shitshow. I lasted maybe 15 minutes before I got back on here.

Most people would prob be willing to help you with a plat transfer. There are usually a lot of people doing their auctions in the East Commonlands tunnel, so they are usually willing to help with transfers since they're just standing around there anyway. It's pretty rare to find a scammer and (no offense) 60pp is not a lot of money for most people at this stage so they're not going to risk getting banned over scamming you for that so you should be totally safe.

So use the character that you originally used to put the money in the bank to take it out, then run them over to the tunnel (not far from Neriak). Then run your new character there so you're easily able to switch over the them once you give someone the platinum on your original character.

You could do this in any other zone too, of course, but since EC is the auction hub I figured I'd mention that one since there are always a lot of people there.

Side note, when playing an evil character (class or race (also, worshipping an evil deity/religion can sometimes make an otherwise "good" class/race have problems as well)) always make sure to right click or /con on everything so you know if they're gonna kill you or not. Read the guides on the Wiki it will help.

[Mblake81]

Cool links,
Thanks!

Tapeheads Forum (https://www.tapeheads.net/forums.php)

[larper99]

I didn't die and it's not on a corpse. I am not that stupid lol. It's in the bank but, I don't have a toon that's strong enough to go in there and get it. I'd like to give it to main druid/halfling main. The only way to do that is to trust another player with it which, no offense, I'm not exactly fond of doing. However, if someone could help me achieve this I'd be more than happy to pay them 10pp for their hassle and from what I have gathered doing this is a pretty big hassle

To those saying that I'm having a fit cause the game is too hard: I played UO before pvp was optional So, no the game isn't too hard. Nice try trying to shame me for havi g a life and being unable to dedicate my life to this game.

As I said I love this game. I couldn't play it when it came out because of some personal-family-financial issues. I was poor back in those days. I had to share the UO account with a friend of mine back in the day.

I've totally stopped playing wow because of this game.i even tried EQ live and it's a total shitshow. I lasted maybe 15 minutes before I got back on here.

All banks in EQ share the same inventory. So, you don't need to go into Neriak to access whatever is in your bank. Just go anywhere.

You cannot access the bank of another character, even from the same account. So, I don't know what you mean by "I don't have a toon that's strong enough to go in there and get it."

If you want to transfer loot from one character to another on the same account, camp both toons at the same spot, somewhere remote that no one might randomly walk by. On the character with the goods you want to give, drop them. Quickly camp and log in as the other character. The goods will be sitting on the ground in a bag. Money may or may not be dropable like this. If it isn't, buy an item that sells for nearly what you pay for it. Drop those items in the same way described above, and pick them up with the second character. Sell the items back to nearly what you bought them for. You will lose a little in "commission", but that is the price you pay for not trusting someone to hold onto your money for the 20 seconds it would take to do the transfer. Really, the best thing to do might be to use the 60pp to buy some low level armor and weapons, and transfer that to the new character to actually use.

Finally, 60pp sounds like a lot when you are level 1, but it really isn't much. Get to level 15 or so and you can make that in about an hour. Or at even lower levels, learn a bit of tailoring and you can turn ruined pelts into 60pp fairly quickly, all while leveling. I find the best place to do this is in Everfrost. Just watch out for the Vengeful skeletons.

[Visual]

Funny thread. P99 has some of the best people. Have made life long friends here, which I cannot say for any other game.

If you haven't met people you clique with or somebody you can trust with your 100pp items, I think you might have bigger issues to tackle.

[cd288]

Funny thread. P99 has some of the best people. Have made life long friends here, which I cannot say for any other game.

If you haven't met people you clique with or somebody you can trust with your 100pp items, I think you might have bigger issues to tackle.

Dude of course he hasn't met anyone he trusts lol. He literally just started so how would he know anyone? Plus to him 60pp is a ton of money and he just needs clarity that no one would even be interested in scamming him over that.

[larper99]

Dude of course he hasn't met anyone he trusts lol. He literally just started so how would he know anyone? Plus to him 60pp is a ton of money and he just needs clarity that no one would even be interested in scamming him over that.

Has anyone actually figured out his exact problem? I still don't understand his whole bank problem. What is it he thinks he cannot do?

[jackd104]

If everywhere you go you find problems, maybe it's you who's the problem. Just saying.

The Holden Caulfield of Norrath?

[larper99]

The Holden Caulfield of Norrath?

"The Catcher in the Ro?"

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/LX8rxiA.png

[cd288]

Has anyone actually figured out his exact problem? I still don't understand his whole bank problem. What is it he thinks he cannot do?

It seems that he doesn’t have another character that he feels he could park in Neriak and transfer the play to and then get out alive.

Which was why I suggested he take out the plat on the Dark Elf and run to somewhere like EC where he can park his other character and transfer with ease.

[larper99]

It seems that he doesn’t have another character that he feels he could park in Neriak and transfer the play to and then get out alive.

Which was why I suggested he take out the plat on the Dark Elf and run to somewhere like EC where he can park his other character and transfer with ease.

But, he never actually confirmed he had a DE. He says he hates DE. I wonder if he ran into Neriak while running away from a golem. So, he zoned a low level good aligned character into Neriak. That might make life a bit rough if he desperately wants the 60p. Not sure how he would have managed that without dying, since he claims he didn't die.

Without more info, I assume your assumption is correct. Just grab the 60p, walk out of Nek into EC and camp/swap.

[Swish]

Don't judge the game by the forums <3

[cd288]

But, he never actually confirmed he had a DE. He says he hates DE. I wonder if he ran into Neriak while running away from a golem. So, he zoned a low level good aligned character into Neriak. That might make life a bit rough if he desperately wants the 60p. Not sure how he would have managed that without dying, since he claims he didn't die.

Without more info, I assume your assumption is correct. Just grab the 60p, walk out of Nek into EC and camp/swap.

He said the plat is in the bank so I assume he put it there on the DE and didn’t think about setting of the transfer in a different zone

[GnomeCaptain]

I've been playing Green/Teal since launch, and I've had almost zero bad encounters with other people.

I think some people on this forum just really like bitching and want attention for it.

Like babies.

[TripSin]

There are some bad apples, but most people are pretty good I feel like. Ive always been helped when low level randomly by people without even having to ask and I help lowbies as well. Interested to know what exactly OP was mad about...

[Quylein]

I've played on and off for almost 10 years and have only found a small handful of terrible players. I mean I've been KSed and and Ninja'd and I've done the same and usually it's about communication. The instances that could of turned sour most of the time are innocent mistakes. You speak then listen you'll get further, and Sorry goes a long way. There are tons of us that help newbies so what your on about no help for the newbs. So I'm gonna assume the hand outs expected weren't given and expectations weren't met. Or you spend to much time in Rants and Flames.

[stewe]

Most the stuff just sounds like yo didnt get you way at a camp or free gear, but ill agree with him when it comes to the p99 community, definitely some of the more toxic, assholish, delusional people i have played with in an MMO. If you wondering what i mean by delusional, its the fact there are tons of neckbeards on here that think they are some how uber special cause they can neckbeard raid mobs that have been killed by thousands and were on farm status almost 20 years ago

[dareo]

My thoughts as a lvl 19, the server is great, vast majority of people are awesome. There are a few turds in the punchbowl. One person refuses to respect outdoor camps like EC orcs. Even if a full group is there, he lays claim to his entitled single spawn. Like wtf guy find something else to do! Endless examples of great people and the occasional problem child. I was selling 5 stacks of bonechips and somebodys trade mule offered me a green silken drape for them!! Talk about awesome!

[cd288]

My thoughts as a lvl 19, the server is great, vast majority of people are awesome. There are a few turds in the punchbowl. One person refuses to respect outdoor camps like EC orcs. Even if a full group is there, he lays claim to his entitled single spawn. Like wtf guy find something else to do! Endless examples of great people and the occasional problem child. I was selling 5 stacks of bonechips and somebodys trade mule offered me a green silken drape for them!! Talk about awesome!

Idk I don't necessarily think it's fair to call that person a turd or problem child unless they're like a higher level just farming. If you guys have a full group I think it's fair to let him have the 1 spawn...it won't materially affect your EXP.

[dareo]

Idk I don't necessarily think it's fair to call that person a turd or problem child unless they're like a higher level just farming. If you guys have a full group I think it's fair to let him have the 1 spawn...it won't materially affect your EXP.

well he would push into an orc camp regardless of the number of people there and isn't willing to join the party either. he just wants to get the camp through annoying the people already there. This person would involve guides in the outdoor zone fte rules to not let a party or person have a little 4 spawn orc camp to themselves. Technically not against the rules but definitely not an honorable player.

[cd288]

well he would push into an orc camp regardless of the number of people there and isn't willing to join the party either. he just wants to get the camp through annoying the people already there. This person would involve guides in the outdoor zone fte rules to not let a party or person have a little 4 spawn orc camp to themselves. Technically not against the rules but definitely not an honorable player.

If he's unwilling to join the group, then that's kind of a dick move. Otherwise, it's not a dick move.

For example, there's tons of occurrences where duos or trios are trying to min/max their EXP and won't take on another player. If said player then decides to camp one of the spawns, that's not a dick move on their part because the other people weren't willing to let them join the group.

[delladaf]

I've only been on this server for one day and have had limited interactions, but they've all been good so far. Played for a few years on progression servers and I can already tell the community is better here, but even if it wasn't all you gotta do is find a guild makes friends and stick to em.

[Algustus]

Some people just don't understand that if you join a community of retro nerds in a free gaming experience people will expect a level of politeness. There are lots of places to be mad though, feel free to explore them. Good Journeys.

[Tecmos Deception]

Please send this to rnf already.

[f2pelerin1182]

I've been playing Green since day 1, I have done nothing but group since level 10 (Warrior, level 41 now) and I have a hard time understanding why I see so much complaining about the community.

Everyone I have grouped with has been nice, willing to answer my new player questions and patient to explain mechanics / show me what to do in different camps.

The community seems wonderful to me.

[cd288]

I've been playing Green since day 1, I have done nothing but group since level 10 (Warrior, level 41 now) and I have a hard time understanding why I see so much complaining about the community.

Everyone I have grouped with has been nice, willing to answer my new player questions and patient to explain mechanics / show me what to do in different camps.

The community seems wonderful to me.

I think most of the complaints you see are probably BS complaints because they're being made by people who are upset that they can't immediately group in the most popular areas of the game and/or that the most popular cash/item camps are occupied and they have to wait their turn. As such, they say the community is "shitty" because there are people preventing them from doing what they want just by virtue of doing the same thing they want to do.

Just look at the two servers better than one thread in this forum. You have people in there saying that other people who happen to be killing mobs at the camps they want to do are min/maxing asshole neckbeards and that anyone who says they're not interested in those camps/high ZEM zones and just go off the beaten path are lying, disingenuous min/maxers who already have all the plat and loot they need. It's quite asinine.

Just ignore those comments when you read them.

[TripSin]

I've been playing Green since day 1, I have done nothing but group since level 10 (Warrior, level 41 now) and I have a hard time understanding why I see so much complaining about the community.

Everyone I have grouped with has been nice, willing to answer my new player questions and patient to explain mechanics / show me what to do in different camps.

The community seems wonderful to me.

Unfortunately, people are much more likely to come and complain about negative things they've experienced on the forum than talk about positives. Also, at least for me, people tend to be much more toxic on the forums compared ot how they actually conduct themselves in game. The forum shouldn't be taken as a complete reflection of how things actually are in the game.

[BlackBellamy]

I've been playing Green since day 1, I have done nothing but group since level 10 (Warrior, level 41 now) and I have a hard time understanding why I see so much complaining about the community.

Everyone I have grouped with has been nice, willing to answer my new player questions and patient to explain mechanics / show me what to do in different camps.

The community seems wonderful to me.

The forum is flypaper to the complainers; where else are their complaints going to be preserved for eternity instead of scrolling out of the chat window to be lost forever?

[Arshis]

As someone whos been here for a long time I do have to admit, the culture of this community has shaped to cater the cry babies. People dont even try to solve problems on their own anymore.

[Rick Sanchez]

As someone whos been here for a long time I do have to admit, the culture of this community has shaped to cater the cry babies. People dont even try to solve problems on their own anymore.

Agreed.

[cd288]

As someone whos been here for a long time I do have to admit, the culture of this community has shaped to cater the cry babies. People dont even try to solve problems on their own anymore.

I mean they do, but even then people will still cry about it. Multi-spawn camp is occupied and someone tries to negotiate a compromise to split the mobs somehow between the two parties. The party that was originally there says no.

So then essentially one party has to petition in order to get it on record. That may be the party that was originally there crying about how the new party is stealing their mobs. Or that may be the new party putting the staff on notice that this person is refusing to comply by the camp rules.

Tough to say that the new party is the cry baby in that instance if the original party just dug their heels in and refused to compromise at all.

[Smellybuttface]

Please send this to rnf already.

[silo32]

So it can be deleted in rnf like the others lul

[Pootle]

Managed to put 60p in the bank in Neriak,
Raging on the forums that he can't get money out of the bank in Neriak?

Smelling troll guys! Pretty well fed too...

[Vheran]

I'd like to see OP's logs and screenshots of all these horrible people telling a newbie to fuck off.

Won't happen because it doesn't happen out of the blue. Not to say never, but this community is pretty damn generous to newcomers and lowbies in general.

[fadetree]

wth. Stop, people. Stop.

[aaezil]

You are the only one angry and out of sorts but the community here has the problems? Yeah ok chief.

[stormlord]

well to be fair sig is new. like REALLY new. not just a returning player from years ago. it's a very different thing and I thnk every1 gets used to returning players but completely misses the boat on someone freshly minted. understanding this, you might have some compassion for sig. sig has no idea where to go or what do. probably isn't prepared for the long haul, or getting lost in a zone somewhere, dying and not knowing how to find the corpse. this is not a small ordeal for someone playing in 2020 with so many other MMORPGs out there.

i've played on p1999 before, quite a bit. i've played eq for a long time. everyone i've met has been friendly. i even rolled a dark elf sk alt--because i never played a dark elf before. the main difference i think is i had preknowledge about everything and the journey is a lot smoother that way. and being i actually like how eq plays, like corpse runs for example, almost nothing is a rude reminder of its "outdated gameplay," as htey might say.

sorry sig for your experience. people around here tend to have a blind spot for people like yourself. a lot of that's due to it being so uncommmon for people like yours trully to visit. EQ at this day and age is almost entirely composed of returning players. the live servers aren't any different.

this reminds me. on live the UI is so incredibly bloated i myself became like a new player when i tried it again. I cannot fathom what it must be like for someone new to everquest. i dreaded creating an alt--since hten i have leanred there's a way to copy the UI in options. the UI fills up half the screen even on 1900x1200 (whatever it's). i realize when eq released in 1999 it also had a large UI, however this is different. back then a large portion of the screen was just images. they had no function. these days, the scren is filled with functiaonal things liike buttons and chat and similar. it's crazy!!!!!!! starting out in teh tutorial almost broke my brain when i fist came back. what's unthinkable is a player new to everquest starts out with a heroic character. OMG. baby jesus died. information overload.

a good way for new player is just watch someone else play it. it's painful, but you'll see exactly how things are done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQmcHgxO2I

but really the only way to lenar is to play. you have to enjoy the core game mechanics, IMHO, at least somewhat. things like no maps, no glowing paths, no icons above NPCs, coin/item weight and encumberance, corpse runs, lots of traveling, diseases, trains, grouping-oriented, high death penalty, kill monsters much more than doing quests, not led around by a quest chain, chat with NPCs to get quests instead of a UI, and just unforgiving. otherwise it'll just be a burden. nostalgia alone has never been enough for me.

i enjoy the mechanics. it's the same reason i enjoyed wurm online, except wuyrm online is (or was anyway) a hybrid of old UO and eq.

[Picked]

I just started on green about a week ago. Finding the community very helpful. I ask for buffs and people always oblige, and kindly too. I even get buffed when I don't ask. I have grouped with many people in my first week and haven't had any problems. Not sure what you mean by a toxic community, I know the raiding scene is probably a bit elitist at the moment but that's no different anywhere else or any other game. You have the hard core players and those who aren't so hardcore.

[Bardp1999]

People are great on P99 until you get to the very top. I mean there's only 1 mob that is dropping whatever item you want and 90% of the time some mouth breathing enchanter is already there. Level to max level or near max level and roll a twink and you will enjoy P99 1000% more. Let Kyle the basement dweller have his FBSS camp

[Christina.]

No I didnt break any rules. And there have been a few people helping me. One guy even gave me 60pp but I can't touch it anymore because I hate the dark elf starting area and I can't touch it now. And I'll admit I was a bit frustrated when I wrote that post and I am sorry for that.

I love this game. I love not having to follow gold exclamation marks around and killing or gathering x thing to give to random bob. I love how there isn't an implied rush to end game.

I am just so frustrated that I have a small fortune and I can't touch it because the dark elf starting area is the video game version of hell. Hardly any mobs, big ass golems just wanting to crush you into the ground for being in their sight. I have begged people to help me get it but, all I get is "Roll a dark elf" and its like "I fucking hate that race."

I tried rolling a gnome Necro but, that turned disastrous when I got too close to a guy that didnt like necros and got killed with all my money and loot too close to him. I begged for help and I was just ignored. One guy, another newb, even sacrificed himself to help me try to get it when no one else would.

I am sorry. I love this game but, there are times like these that make me want to just fully uninstall the game.

After reading this second post by the original poster, I smiled a little inside... And I totally feel empathy for him lmao! He doesn't sound like a bad dude or anything, he just sounds like the 13-14 year old me in 2000 on my first day of everquest and how fustrating it was cause it was SO hard. Okay now compare him playing in 2020 after he's been playing all these easy video games and then runs into EQ (LOL!) Here's some advice tho ..stick with it! It'll become funner and easier I promise, that hardness your feeling is part of the everquest experience.. trust me. I remember those days well haha

[cd288]

well to be fair sig is new. like REALLY new. not just a returning player from years ago. it's a very different thing and I thnk every1 gets used to returning players but completely misses the boat on someone freshly minted. understanding this, you might have some compassion for sig. sig has no idea where to go or what do. probably isn't prepared for the long haul, or getting lost in a zone somewhere, dying and not knowing how to find the corpse. this is not a small ordeal for someone playing in 2020 with so many other MMORPGs out there.

i've played on p1999 before, quite a bit. i've played eq for a long time. everyone i've met has been friendly. i even rolled a dark elf sk alt--because i never played a dark elf before. the main difference i think is i had preknowledge about everything and the journey is a lot smoother that way. and being i actually like how eq plays, like corpse runs for example, almost nothing is a rude reminder of its "outdated gameplay," as htey might say.

sorry sig for your experience. people around here tend to have a blind spot for people like yourself. a lot of that's due to it being so uncommmon for people like yours trully to visit. EQ at this day and age is almost entirely composed of returning players. the live servers aren't any different.

this reminds me. on live the UI is so incredibly bloated i myself became like a new player when i tried it again. I cannot fathom what it must be like for someone new to everquest. i dreaded creating an alt--since hten i have leanred there's a way to copy the UI in options. the UI fills up half the screen even on 1900x1200 (whatever it's). i realize when eq released in 1999 it also had a large UI, however this is different. back then a large portion of the screen was just images. they had no function. these days, the scren is filled with functiaonal things liike buttons and chat and similar. it's crazy!!!!!!! starting out in teh tutorial almost broke my brain when i fist came back. what's unthinkable is a player new to everquest starts out with a heroic character. OMG. baby jesus died. information overload.

a good way for new player is just watch someone else play it. it's painful, but you'll see exactly how things are done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQmcHgxO2I

but really the only way to lenar is to play. you have to enjoy the core game mechanics, IMHO, at least somewhat. things like no maps, no glowing paths, no icons above NPCs, coin/item weight and encumberance, corpse runs, lots of traveling, diseases, trains, grouping-oriented, high death penalty, kill monsters much more than doing quests, not led around by a quest chain, chat with NPCs to get quests instead of a UI, and just unforgiving. otherwise it'll just be a burden. nostalgia alone has never been enough for me.

i enjoy the mechanics. it's the same reason i enjoyed wurm online, except wuyrm online is (or was anyway) a hybrid of old UO and eq.

Why revive this thread

[Skunkranger]

The OP's post reminds me of the Uber meltdown I had in 2001 when I lost my lvl 6 monk's corpse up a tree in the karanas. I "quit for good" that day, and then I played EQ for another 10 years. Quit this game now before it steals another minute of your life from you. =P

[urbanbo]

Hey bro - come here - closer - u mad?

[DMN]

How can the soup nazi's soup taste so good?

[douglas1999]

Gee I've been playing this game for literally 21 years, and this server for 11 years, and when somebody is a dick to me I just simply do not even remotely give a shit in any regard. And the rest of the time, people are generally cool and good. Your stupid temper tantrum didn't require that many separate line breaks OP. Please stop being a mad dork and play the game with us, or fuck off I don't care.

[Bigsham]

Yea thats how i have been since 1999

its the internet its not real, have fun and play a healthy amount because the stay at home weirdos and forum trannys are unstable miserable fucks

[magnetaress]

If you are upset by the community, make it better, you cant force these things. Ask yourself how you may make it better. Be kind and smile emote to your fellow adventurers. Offer them a helping hand. Or a bit of courtesy. It goes a long way and will make it's way back to you, in Norrath, and out.

That being said. I find it easy to deal with inconvenience and discourtesy when I myself am not the one creating it and moving it along. Do I faulter? sure. Do I have faults? Sure. People come here to have fun. They also come here to hide. And some to get away from what is hurting them. Sometimes they bring that pain here. They don't necessarily always mean to.

God bless.

[magnetaress]

Also, there is no other game with Neriak in it. A lot of love went into Neriak.