Guise on Green

[Schulgix]

Hey all, just started a character on green. I'm curious what the Guise of the Deceiver camp is like on green right now. Basically what are the average list wait times and what not? Trying to figure out if I'll be able to get one before they are removed. Thanks!

- Schulgix

[Fammaden]

Its streaky, can take a long ass time. Twelve to eighteen hours at number one isn't unheard of, but neither is having four or five in a row drop once per hour. If you want to do a legacy you need to clear a whole day, and preferably get on at an odd hour on a weekday to get a low list wait but with the merger that might not even be very possible. Even for the "easy" items, guise/jboots, you need to be prepared to stick it out all day possibly.

I haven't listed for anything since the merger so not sure how long the lists are getting for it now, but its typically always been the shortest list in general. On teal it was never more than six people and you could usually just log in at camp in the early morning EST and be top three or better.

[cd288]

Its streaky, can take a long ass time. Twelve to eighteen hours at number one isn't unheard of, but neither is having four or five in a row drop once per hour. If you want to do a legacy you need to clear a whole day, and preferably get on at an odd hour on a weekday to get a low list wait but with the merger that might not even be very possible. Even for the "easy" items, guise/jboots, you need to be prepared to stick it out all day possibly.

I haven't listed for anything since the merger so not sure how long the lists are getting for it now, but its typically always been the shortest list in general. On teal it was never more than six people and you could usually just log in at camp in the early morning EST and be top three or better.

Manastone you will need to clear 3-4 days straight of no sleep

[Schulgix]

Thanks for the responses. Yeah that's why I was asking. I know I won't be camping manastone at all, but could realistically put 8-10 hours into camping guise at some point.

[Furitor]

Since the merge the list has been around 3-6 on weekdays except Friday. Try in the evenin or euro times. Haven't checked Saturday.

Don't be discouraged if the list is 6-7... many drop off the list.

I've been hunting around that area so I've checked up on it every now and then.

It's definitely streaky as people have mentioned and you can have bad luck, but it's probably the easiest camp I've done. JBoots I just had bad luck.

[Smellybuttface]

Both Jboots and Guise seem to be around a 16-20 hr window on green now. I think you'd probably have to get VERY lucky to get one in 8-10hrs. If you spent 10 hrs at the camp and didn't get one, it'd suck to have to then leave and have all that time wasted.

[Somekid123]

Day before merge i did near 14 hours at number 1. 4 daggers no mask :\

[Schulgix]

All promising enough information. Is it acceptable to get on list, kill mob, and loot the mask on an alt?

[DMN]

All promising enough information. Is it acceptable to get on list, kill mob, and loot the mask on an alt?

Nope. It should be though. They didn't implement it like that though. Your list/loot is 100% tied to the character, not account.

[Dynamo1]

wish they would just up the drop rate on boots / guise. neither are gamebreaking items. as it stands its just a horrible time sink, yeah its not classic but its not fun and kinda discouraging when the population is so high and content is stretched.

[Bigsham]

No one knew about guise on classic, it wasnt meant to be camped by all these people

[Hiten]

Guise isn’t bad since it’s the common drop. Average time would probably be about 10 hours.

[Stickyfingers]

Started at 4 on list one Sunday morning before merge. 7am-ish, got mine in 7 hours.

[Schulgix]

Nope. It should be though. They didn't implement it like that though. Your list/loot is 100% tied to the character, not account.

So if you are on the list and you kill the mob and never loot it, it cannot be looted by someone else during the 7 minute timer? seems odd..

[Smellybuttface]

So if you are on the list and you kill the mob and never loot it, it cannot be looted by someone else during the 7 minute timer? seems odd..

What happens if a guise drops and #1 doesn’t loot it? It just rots and the guy gets to stay at #1? Would be pretty shitty for #2 if that happened.

[Schulgix]

For context, I'm leveling a druid and was thinking of soloing the camp at appropriate level to give the guise to a paladin alt of probably around level 20. I'd have to level the paladin to 50 otherwise to be able to solo that camp.

[Tecmos Deception]

For context, I'm leveling a druid and was thinking of soloing the camp at appropriate level to give the guise to a paladin alt of probably around level 20. I'd have to level the paladin to 50 otherwise to be able to solo that camp.

Break it with the druid, switch to the paladin to keep it split?


And yes, if a /list item isn't looted by the #1 guy, it rots (and the #1 guy is removed from the list).

[Canelek]

Can a 50 druid solo Ass/Sup?

[Tecmos Deception]

Can a 50 druid solo Ass/Sup?

Yeah.

I mean, worst case scenario he can just bind around the corner, charge into the room root one or two, burn one or two down before he dies, then load at bind, mem spells, /corpse, go kill what's left over split up a little bit. It's not like losing 10% of level 50 matters when you're about to spend several hours getting exp of greens.

Better case, he manages to get the 3 mobs rooted without dying (i.e. getting ghoul rooted 15 times in a row in a corner) then can slowly kill the 3 mobs a couple minutes apart and have the camp split for the next cycle.

He could also charm a bat or spider (I think?) and clear his way to ass/sup (or otherwise get it over there and charm it) and use the bat to facilitate breaking in. Even if it was just sacrificial and let him get off a root or two before it died, it would make the break in a lot safer.

[Canelek]

Looks like the named have ~1700 HP, which is standard for the level. That takes roughly two rounds of DoTs or a barrage of lvl 49 nukes. Yeah if you can get the roots off and they hold it would be a decent dispatch of individual frogs, then camping out/gating camping out. Medding to full wouldn't be an issue with long respawns in LGuk. OK yeah I can see that working.

I'd rather just enchanter it, but I think you are right.

If Harmony and the 49 quad nuke worked inside I wouldn't have asked, hehe.

[Smellybuttface]

Looks like the named have ~1700 HP, which is standard for the level. That takes roughly two rounds of DoTs or a barrage of lvl 49 nukes. Yeah if you can get the roots off and they hold it would be a decent dispatch of individual frogs, then camping out/gating camping out. Medding to full wouldn't be an issue with long respawns in LGuk. OK yeah I can see that working.

I'd rather just enchanter it, but I think you are right.

If Harmony and the 49 quad nuke worked inside I wouldn't have asked, hehe.

Since it’s a /list mob I’m guessing you can’t camp the Assassin anyway right? Guess you can camp the supplier, though. I would imagine folks on the list for Assassin would aid in killing him (presumably) if you were all on the list together.

[Canelek]

Just speculation. It is doubtful that that camp would be empty until Sol Ro patch.

[Tecmos Deception]

Since it’s a /list mob I’m guessing you can’t camp the Assassin anyway right? Guess you can camp the supplier, though. I would imagine folks on the list for Assassin would aid in killing him (presumably) if you were all on the list together.

I don't think you're right. He can spawn and drop a non-list item, after all, and when he does the loot is normal. I would assume someone can claim the ass/sup room as their camp and refuse to let anyone else in on the exp/loot, excepting that /list people would still get the guise drops in order regardless.

[BlackBellamy]

Breaking small ghoul rooms is always fun. If you pop out of IVU and lead with your quickest root you can get one before they react. Root the strongest one first so hopefully the lower level ghoul root wont land. If they get you root them than chain heal and hope it breaks so you can move away. If they don't root you just park them close cause that room is small. If you still have enough mana nuke one down and port/gate.

[boukk]

wish they would just up the drop rate on boots / guise. neither are gamebreaking items. as it stands its just a horrible time sink, yeah its not classic but its not fun and kinda discouraging when the population is so high and content is stretched.

Did they make guise a rare drop? used to be common on live.