Didn't Realize CB Belts Nerfed So Hard

[turbosilk]

Bought 62 belts and 15 pads and went from level 7 to level 8. Just over one full level. I had heard about the nerf but wow that's a big nerf. Kinda feel like a sucker for buying the belts and pads.

Did deathfist belts get hit this hard too?

[Zekayy]

Yes the deathfist belts and goblin ears and all the belts and pads got nerfed

[TripSin]

Is this classic? Just curious.

[Cen]

I haven't noticed a problem with Deathfist belts as of yesterday.

[axisofebola]

When were these nerfed?

[Swish]

Bought 62 belts and 15 pads and went from level 7 to level 8. Just over one full level. I had heard about the nerf but wow that's a big nerf. Kinda feel like a sucker for buying the belts and pads.

Did deathfist belts get hit this hard too?

Sounds harsh even on a hybrid. I haven't turned any in on green but looks like I'm doing it the hard way this time :D

[Dolalin]

Defo not classic, but they must have a reason.

[derpcake2]

Bought 62 belts and 15 pads and went from level 7 to level 8. Just over one full level. I had heard about the nerf but wow that's a big nerf. Kinda feel like a sucker for buying the belts and pads.

Did deathfist belts get hit this hard too?

Pretty sure they only give this marginal xp at low levels.

I didn't keep track but know I did several levels off belts and pads, didnt start turnins before 16 though.

[Visual]

Should maybe look into splitpaw skins being abused by wizards and druids

[Albanwr]

they are actually better in higher levels. 10+ the exp is good.

[Kanuvan]

its was not classic for the mega abuse of that quest on day 1 so to make the game more classic they nerfed it, which in turn made the game much more classic as people were not hoarding 50+ CB belts on day 1 of classic because they didnt even know about that quest yet

[solleks]

It's either classic or more classic than classic

[turbosilk]

they are actually better in higher levels. 10+ the exp is good.

Please help me understand how the exp per belt increases at 10+ when each single belt turn in now isn't more than 11%.

[Smellybuttface]

they are actually better in higher levels. 10+ the exp is good.

This isn't true, even in the slightest. I've been in CB longer than I care to admit, and have tried belts at lvls 10-16, and they give a VERY marginal amount of exp at 10+. Even considering the greater exp required per level with each subsequent level, they give terrible return after level 10.

[Lostfaction]

How are you claiming you got only one level here??? belts are around 3-5% at that level and a pair of pad 8-12%. Around lvl 12 is when belts drop to 1% per turnin. Still think of it if you are xp'ing in CB after a full session you have 20-30 belts in your bags that's a free 20-30% bonus xp you get. Quit complaining you cant buy your way to 50 and enjoy the grind.

[Zeboim]

CB Belts are garbage after 10, less than 1% per in my experience. DF Belts however seem to give 1.5-2% each up until 14 or 15, which is probably what he's talking about. Not great but if you can get 50 of them (pretty easy) it'll power through a level if that's important to you. Pads are pretty good too still, 10+.

That these are still nerfed is stupid *and* unclassic however.

[Erati]

turned in 30 goblin ears at lvl 15 on a Ranger and got 2 bubbles of exp :(

[Baler]

When were these nerfed?
This, because near launch they weren't nerfed and gave the same exp they did on blue. Plus they were hella cheap.

I leveled a brand new character 5th week of the server to level 20 in less than 20 hours and for less than 1k plat.

turned in 30 goblin ears at lvl 15 on a Ranger and got 2 bubbles of exp :(
Goblin Ears were fixed and were never supposed to give as much exp as they did on blue back in the day.

[Zeboim]

It was the December patch I believe. I remember it was right when I started my alt, had just farmed a boatload of DF belts for myself and then read the posts about it here.

[Smellybuttface]

This, because near launch they weren't nerfed and gave the same exp they did on blue. Plus they were hella cheap.

I leveled a brand new character 5th week of the server to level 20 in less than 20 hours and for less than 1k plat.


Goblin Ears were fixed and were never supposed to give as much exp as they did on blue back in the day.

Don't Goblin Ears still give decent exp even in the 20's? Considering they sell for 15pp a piece, I'd assumed they gave a respectable amount. I know when I was farming in HHK folks were saying they were still turning them in, even at those levels.

[Baler]

Well that sucks, Who do we have to blame for this change!

Bug report: This will nerf players
Devs: fucking ship it!

Bug report: players are supposed to have this buffed
Devs: *have left the building*

[Bigsham]

you paid 100p for a level seems ok to me

[Isomorphic]

they are actually better in higher levels. 10+ the exp is good.

Quest items give a static amount of xp that is independent of level.

[Swish]

Defo not classic, but they must have a reason.

It's a P99-classic precedent though. The same happened with the scorpion pincer quest the night they launched Kunark on blue. Crazy XP for the first few hours then it was nerfed hard to the point where you'd only really turn them in for faction :/

[Tethler]

That sucks about CB belts. DF belts are still pretty good xp. Took my cleric from 2-9 on them. Was getting the max 11% or whatever through level 5, then it reduced from there. I didn't count how many belts I used exactly, but to ballpark it, I'd say about 8 or 9 8-slot bags of DF belts got me 7 levels.

[Visual]

Embrace the suffering. Leveling and acquiring items is the best part of EQ. Enjoy the journey cause the destination is when you lose desire to play and quit

[Sacer]

They also nerfed bone chips from day 1 on green.

Should maybe look into splitpaw skins being abused by wizards and druids

Is this really on green already? I know many druid/wiz that got to 60 on blue with those scrolls... Classic or not it's a shame to nerf the low level exp turn ins but not the high level ones that are trully game breaking.

[gnomishfirework]

They also nerfed bone chips from day 1 on green.



Is this really on green already? I know many druid/wiz that got to 60 on blue with those scrolls... Classic or not it's a shame to nerf the low level exp turn ins but not the high level ones that are trully game breaking.

Going to 60 on 3 lore scrolls at a time? Fucking how boring can you get?

[Visual]

Is this really on green already? I know many druid/wiz that got to 60 on blue with those scrolls... Classic or not it's a shame to nerf the low level exp turn ins but not the high level ones that are trully game breaking.

You bind at turn in and buy/kill for scrolls and gate, then run back from portal. Broken and not classic

Going to 60 on 3 lore scrolls at a time? Fucking how boring can you get?

It is 4 and who was talking about boredom. I guess they shoulda kept chardok aoe cause it was boring

[gnomishfirework]

I mean, I only did aoe on live and it was not boring. Way more fun than a regular exp group spamming my stuns and seeing all those hits.

And it’s only 4 if you are gonna take time to fight lowbies for a spawn outside. More time in between running through north and south karana. How many actually doing that?

[BlackBellamy]

You bind at turn in and buy/kill for scrolls and gate, then run back from portal. Broken and not classic



It is 4 and who was talking about boredom. I guess they shoulda kept chardok aoe cause it was boring

Only stupid people wait for the fourth scroll.

[cd288]

Is this classic? Just curious.

I believe they said the previous values were incorrect and these are classic values. I don't recall them being this low because I used belts to level up a bunch of alts back in the day and jumped through the early levels with way less than 62 belts that the OP turned in.

I think it was Tellin that said that.

I wish they would disclose what source they used to determine this.

[cd288]

How are you claiming you got only one level here??? belts are around 3-5% at that level and a pair of pad 8-12%. Around lvl 12 is when belts drop to 1% per turnin. Still think of it if you are xp'ing in CB after a full session you have 20-30 belts in your bags that's a free 20-30% bonus xp you get. Quit complaining you cant buy your way to 50 and enjoy the grind.

I think you're missing the point of the post. The post was more complaining that they didn't publicize the nerf and therefore OP spent a bunch of money he or she wouldn't have spent otherwise. Which is a fair complaint. Changes like this should be posted as a notice.

That sucks about CB belts. DF belts are still pretty good xp. Took my cleric from 2-9 on them. Was getting the max 11% or whatever through level 5, then it reduced from there. I didn't count how many belts I used exactly, but to ballpark it, I'd say about 8 or 9 8-slot bags of DF belts got me 7 levels.

DF belts appear nerfed as well. And bandit sashes.

[choppedandglued]

How are you claiming you got only one level here??? belts are around 3-5% at that level and a pair of pad 8-12%. Around lvl 12 is when belts drop to 1% per turnin. Still think of it if you are xp'ing in CB after a full session you have 20-30 belts in your bags that's a free 20-30% bonus xp you get. Quit complaining you cant buy your way to 50 and enjoy the grind.

Damn somebody is coming with the fangs out.

[Tethler]

DF belts appear nerfed as well. And bandit sashes.

Yeah, it was definitely slower than when I got my wizard some levels with belts, but it sounds like CB belts got hit a bit harder with the nerf bat for some reason based on anecdotal evidence.

[DMN]

Rando on the P99 forum does not empirical evidence make.

[Zeboim]

Spend 30pp and try it yourself then.

[cd288]

Rando on the P99 forum does not empirical evidence make.

Tellin came into a thread a couple weeks back and confirmed the nerf because previous values were non classic. Good try though

[DMN]

Tellin came into a thread a couple weeks back and confirmed the nerf because previous values were non classic. Good try though

Where is the link? you are even worse than a rando. We all know you are clueless.

[Tethler]

Where is the link? you are even worse than a rando. We all know you are clueless.

I'm guessing he's referring to this thread (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344711&page=5), but Telin was a bit vague and didn't specifically say what was done to belts.

[Gatorsmash]

I'm guessing he's referring to this thread (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344711&page=5), but Telin was a bit vague and didn't specifically say what was done to belts.

Any p99 developer who says any of the starter XP nerfs are classic is completely full of shit.

My roommates and I would do the kaladim BONE CHIPs to almost 8 then belts to 12+. CB Shoulder pads gave great XP at 12 ffs. But all FOUR of us who remember doing the same thing randomly solo and everybody else must be wrong because they read a chat thread on alla's.

This is why people who play here on p99 long enough (myself included), really start to hate the staff. Instead of giving a [reason] for a change like an adult that most would agree with ( current game knowledge is a problem) , they call you stupid and say its "classic" but it might be changed back if you can provide "proof" not the stupid 'I read a comment from 99' proof but hard numbers.

[turbosilk]

Any p99 developer who says any of the starter XP nerfs are classic is completely full of shit.

My roommates and I would do the kaladim BONE CHIPs to almost 8 then belts to 12+. CB Shoulder pads gave great XP at 12 ffs. But all FOUR of us who remember doing the same thing randomly solo and everybody else must be wrong because they read a chat thread on alla's.

This is why people who play here on p99 long enough (myself included), really start to hate the staff. Instead of giving a [reason] for a change like an adult that most would agree with ( current game knowledge is a problem) , they call you stupid and say its "classic" but it might be changed back if you can provide "proof" not the stupid 'I read a comment from 99' proof but hard numbers.

Yes and what I'm saying is there was another nerf in January on top of the previous nerf(s). I turned in belts and bone chips late Dec/early January on another char and bone chips were diminished a bit but still good to 7 or so. CB belts were finished but still decent to 11 or so. There appears to have been another nerf sometime after after other nerf earlier in Dec.

[cd288]

Any p99 developer who says any of the starter XP nerfs are classic is completely full of shit.

My roommates and I would do the kaladim BONE CHIPs to almost 8 then belts to 12+. CB Shoulder pads gave great XP at 12 ffs. But all FOUR of us who remember doing the same thing randomly solo and everybody else must be wrong because they read a chat thread on alla's.

This is why people who play here on p99 long enough (myself included), really start to hate the staff. Instead of giving a [reason] for a change like an adult that most would agree with ( current game knowledge is a problem) , they call you stupid and say its "classic" but it might be changed back if you can provide "proof" not the stupid 'I read a comment from 99' proof but hard numbers.

Not referring to the starter nerfs that were in place at launch for things like bone chips. Those may have been done for other reasons. Referring to subsequent nerfs to various turn ins that were put in place after apparently the staff found the rewards were not classic (no idea what data/source they used to determine this since it hasn’t been disclosed).

On a separate note, if people don’t believe things have been nerfed then go try the turn in and see for yourself. Sort of pointless for people ok this thread to go “nothing is nerfed why should I believe you other people!?”, don’t take our word for it go do the turn in and see how low the exp is. I turned in like 30 sashes the other day at level 14 and got like a yellow and a half of exp lol. OP turned in a ridiculous amount of belts and got barely any exp compared to the amount of turn ins. If people don’t believe it, go try it and you’ll see.

[Gatorsmash]

Yes and what I'm saying is there was another nerf in January on top of the previous nerf(s). I turned in belts and bone chips late Dec/early January on another char and bone chips were diminished a bit but still good to 7 or so. CB belts were finished but still decent to 11 or so. There appears to have been another nerf sometime after after other nerf earlier in Dec.

I agree 100% I should have been clearer. I also was leveling up just as the 1st nerf hit and just this week talked another friend into coming back. Thought maybe we could get him caught up to us fast tracking him but nopes, bandit sashes are even worse. It's ridiculous what's the point? Too fast to level 14? Omg not that

[Bigsham]

Any p99 developer who says any of the starter XP nerfs are classic is completely full of shit.

My roommates and I would do the kaladim BONE CHIPs to almost 8 then belts to 12+. CB Shoulder pads gave great XP at 12 ffs. But all FOUR of us who remember doing the same thing randomly solo and everybody else must be wrong because they read a chat thread on alla's.

This is why people who play here on p99 long enough (myself included), really start to hate the staff. Instead of giving a [reason] for a change like an adult that most would agree with ( current game knowledge is a problem) , they call you stupid and say its "classic" but it might be changed back if you can provide "proof" not the stupid 'I read a comment from 99' proof but hard numbers.

Its their server they make the rules and changes whenever and however they want, nothing on p99 is remotely close to classic either play or dont.

Did you hear that? it was the sound of the door hitting your ass on the way out.

[cd288]

Its their server they make the rules and changes whenever and however they want, nothing on p99 is remotely close to classic either play or dont.

Did you hear that? it was the sound of the door hitting your ass on the way out.

Are you just a troll account or something? A lot of your comments seem that way.

Tons of stuff on P99 is classic. There are also some things that aren't classic at all or are partially but not 100% classic, for reasons such as being unable to find sources that provide good evidence of how something worked.

If you have a list of non-classic things and accompanying evidence of why said things aren't classic, you could post it in the bugs forum. The staff always appreciate evidence that something is incorrect so they can look into fixing it.