Economy is terrible

[tommydgun]

The economy is so fucked right now... here is the economy... "hey guys I'm selling mith 2h for 20k PSTTTTTT" .... "hey guys I'm buying mith 2h for 8k xdddddddddddd"... no items actually get sold. Nice economy

[Cen]

Its kind of a goofy in between of blue and classic. People sort of don't know how to value their items so it goes nuts. They know how easy it will for certain items to generate in the future will be, but also how rare they are now, etc

[Albanwr]

well, considering the server is still very new, just play the game with the shit you have. It's classic...

[DMN]

The lowballing on miths is ridiculous. You don't need to buy a freakin haste item. The only one that exists right now (essentially) is FBSS-- which people are selling for 20-25k. Not only that but the haste on the mith is almost 50% better than the haste you get on the FBSS. Just ridiculous. Mith should be going for a lot. It's easily the best and most realistic DPS weapon for the next 8 months if you can equip it.

[sycopata666]

Its simply, there are not enough cash to buy all uber items, some one have the plat for sure, but the mass community dont have 20kp to buy all items are drop every day and people expect sale for 20k or more, specialy the ones what are becoming trash in khunark, just main tank of raid guilds need being full geared, and this are just for weapons, why armor are from planar equipment.

This mean uber expensive items are for twink alters, and so much twink people is waiting iksars.

[Kanuvan]

the prices are kinda stupid tbh, why do people want 20k plat this early in the game? most players are making maybe 100 plat a day selling FS

like people have said the high end items are just being traded between the poopsockers and are not realistic to obtain for most people, whill the medium and low end items like impskin gloves/gator legs are going for very reasonable prices

so no, the economy is fine, its just those very few highly sought after items are being circulated mostly between the people that play EQ1 and only EQ1

[derpcake2]

It's easily the best and most realistic DPS weapon for the next 8 months if you can equip it.

Considering there aren't any dps classes that can equip it that argument isn't too strong.

The agro it generates is pretty poor.

[sycopata666]

The only valuable items in my opinion in classic are weapons and haste items, and for sure not valuated like people are atempting, every day Lower guk drops minimum 1 mith 2h, for sure drops more... This mean before khunark release the stock are growing to 300+ swords, this are more than the market really needs why not all mele classes use 2h weapons, in other hand 300+ FBSS are not a hi number to support all mele classes what can profit this item. This is why historical FBSS worth more in long term than Mith 2H and the market are being adjusted. Especialy wen kunark become near, and people being sale stocks before items lost a huge value.

[Nirgon]

green is very fun

[Kanuvan]

those items are hugely overrated aswell, you dont NEED fbss to fulfill your role, and there's endless amounts of +mana +hp +str/int items as reasonable prices for people to get that when all put together will make your character much more powrful

like i sold 1 pair of impskin gloves for 2k and was able to get my monk a full set of high end ac/str gear, because the "bis" is hugely overrated by today's player

[DMN]

Considering there aren't any dps classes that can equip it that argument isn't too strong.

The agro it generates is pretty poor.

Eh? a mith will outdamage anything but a rogue for melee classes. The aggro is good and consistent, unlike the other options which essentially "pray your poc with garbage dex or be useless".


You obviously know nothing about vanilla EQ.

[Canelek]

Plat and DKP are worthless right now, aside from Phinny and dragon loot. If you are looking for a 22% haste edge at this point, and have issues with the current cost, then you probably don't need to have it right now.

If you are dedicated to your melee class right now, then you sure as shit didn't need to hear from me.

[Octopath]

the prices are kinda stupid tbh, why do people want 20k plat this early in the game? most players are making maybe 100 plat a day selling FS

like people have said the high end items are just being traded between the poopsockers and are not realistic to obtain for most people, whill the medium and low end items like impskin gloves/gator legs are going for very reasonable prices

so no, the economy is fine, its just those very few highly sought after items are being circulated mostly between the people that play EQ1 and only EQ1

If you made 100pp a day from selling FS since launch... you’d be approaching 10k! Rich

[sycopata666]

I remember top tier tanks in classic wearing 2 SSOY .
mith 2h are from long time, just the best twink weapom for the damage cap. What make fast weapon > hi dps in low lvls.
And rogues are not the only who no use the mith 2h, monks exists, and not in low number.

[Tecmos Deception]

those items are hugely overrated aswell, you dont NEED fbss to fulfill your role, and there's endless amounts of +mana +hp +str/int items as reasonable prices for people to get that when all put together will make your character much more powrful

like i sold 1 pair of impskin gloves for 2k and was able to get my monk a full set of high end ac/str gear, because the "bis" is hugely overrated by today's player

But it's not an either/or situation. That's why they're expensive. You dont have to have an fbss OR other stuff. You can have both. And once you get the other stuff, they're all that's left to get to improve your character, and they improve you significantly. So they end up expensive until eventually enough are farmed to do the supply/demand thing or new gear is available as alternatives.

[Wallicker]

Fear is soon! Prices on these will go down significantly if you can wait 2 weeks

[Tecmos Deception]

Fear is soon! Prices on these will go down significantly if you can wait 2 weeks

I'm interested to see how many more rubi BPs are suddenly on the market when people start equipping lustrous russet. I know for my sham, I'll want to wear like half the LR instead of stuff like rubi bp or GEBs.

[fadetree]

The economy is so fucked right now... here is the economy... "hey guys I'm selling mith 2h for 20k PSTTTTTT" .... "hey guys I'm buying mith 2h for 8k xdddddddddddd"... no items actually get sold. Nice economy

yeah, that's what an economy is. If an economy is 'good', that doesn't mean you get the prices you want, it means that it is accurately following normal market forces. If people want to actually sell, they will eventually lower prices on things, but you have to wait until that process reaches a level you can afford. Or, you need to make more plat. Pick one.

[Mil]

People complaining about economics in an elf simulator are playing the game wrong.

[sycopata666]

Server have 1000 players averange, if each player generate averange 100p each day, the full server generate 100.000p each day. How much items drops each day? And how much money expect retailers? This is why items roots in the market, one guy can pay 100k for a manastone, but are imposible each 48 hours one guy buy a manastone.

Specialy now wen money sink in buy spells and tradeskills

[seconds]

The argument that you won't need an FBSS and its two items in one to justify the price shows that we are working with the average high school drop out. Just use the blanket statement that there is nothing else to spend your money on to justify your irrational price.

I'd happily sit on 20k, knowing that there will be gear that actually is worthwhile coming down the road.

[Zeboim]

Your problem is that it won't be 20k later. There's definitely a timeline for both items. SCHW will demolish the FBSS price in turn.

Its just a question of getting out while the getting is good.

Absolutely no rush to get either tho. Just farm the damn thing. Or just get a Swirlspine.

[Jimjam]

I can barely afford Iron Rations and Flasks of water.

We need to increase supertax and make a universal basic income for those who are unable to solo or find groups.

[Fragged]

Are people actually surprised that sellers try to get more than market value and buyers try to pay less than market value?

Who cares if some idiot sits on an item forever and tries to sell it for fifteen million trillion plat. And vice versa the idiot trying for months to buy that item for a fraction of market value.

Items will go for what people are willing to pay. It's an advanced concept, but give it a minute and I'm sure you will be able to grasp it.

<3

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

I main a caster, at the int cap with about 25k in gear. I have about 20k banked, my only alt is a melee with 5k in gear, but I certainly wouldn't grab him a mith two hander for 20k. I've seen just how hard those things tank in value as soon as Kunark releases.

Then again, if I was a melee main, another 8 months of having a badass weapon is another story. Still not sure I'd drop anywhere near 20k for it though.

[Evia]

Mith 2h sword is among the most over rated items imho. Sure it has good haste but only for the mith 2h itself. So stop viewing it as a haste item and subtract the delay off from the haste and see it for what it is..

A 2her with good ratio in classic that becomes quickly obsolete come kunark.

Worth a few thousand pp tops.

[fadetree]

Are people actually surprised that sellers try to get more than market value and buyers try to pay less than market value?


I think for people who rant about the game economy it's mostly just frustration. It can be pretty annoying to hear of things you really want that you absolutely will never be able to afford soon enough to really use them.

I would be interested to know what the prices were like for high end items back in the day 4 months after live opened. Hardly anyone knew what the gear was or what it did. I mean, I initially thought that a 'haste' item made you run faster.

[Fawqueue]

Blue was pretty similar....it's just the nature of Classic servers early on. Some of the population understands how to make money quickly, and will be the ones who the high-end market is tailored towards. This is why you'll see postings of FBSS or Mithril 2-Hander for 20k+. Another portion of the population are the regular players, who can get 8-10k together over a few weeks of really working at it and feel like two weeks of their level of effort should be equal to one end-game item, thus the postings of "WTB Mithril 2-H for 8k".

So really, it's not that the economy is broken. It's that it caters to the elite first, and the scraps take a while to filter down to the masses. And we are still very much in the elite phase.

[alexisaria]

Money is much easier to make now that it was in 99. My OG half elf druid ran around 1/2 naked till she was almost 20. Would I love to have a pair of GEB's? Sure, but because of this dreaded thing called real life, I can usually only play on sat night, and sunday. I don't think I had my first pair of GEB's till after velious came out. IMO, just worry about the stuff you need have. A lvl 10 twink might have what you want, but their main spent their time and effort getting it.

[Keebz]

No one has mentioned the different item valuations across teal / green that are now visible because of the merge. On teal it wasn't uncommon to see Mith 2h for 8-10k (a fair price imho). Green had much higher valuation on everything, probably because of more poopsockers and therefore more plat. Now that the worlds have collided, it makes sense to see these disparities.

[Tecmos Deception]

Green had much higher valuation on everything

That's not correct.

[Fawqueue]

No one has mentioned the different item valuations across teal / green that are now visible because of the merge. On teal it wasn't uncommon to see Mith 2h for 8-10k (a fair price imho). Green had much higher valuation on everything, probably because of more poopsockers and therefore more plat. Now that the worlds have collided, it makes sense to see these disparities.

This can be explored even further. When the servers were split, it didn't modify the drop rate or availability. So just as many axes were dropping as now, but to enter a market of 700ish players. Of those 700, only a fraction would want the axe, so the prices would naturally go down over time, since a constant rate of axes would be filling a diminishing number of interested parties. The merge doubled the population (and therefore doubled the number of players who would purchase), but kept the rate of axe drops at the same constant it was before. So with the combined demand of both servers we saw an instant increase in price, and now we'll have to wait until enough of the demand has been filled that sellers feel compelled to drop their price to cater to less and less interest.

[Zelbor]

No one has mentioned the different item valuations across teal / green that are now visible because of the merge. On teal it wasn't uncommon to see Mith 2h for 8-10k (a fair price imho). Green had much higher valuation on everything, probably because of more poopsockers and therefore more plat. Now that the worlds have collided, it makes sense to see these disparities.

This doesn't quite match my experience (as a Teal player) pre- and post-merge. Teal tradeskill items (JC, in particular) were usually sold cheaper. Low- to medium-price items, really anything less than around the 4-5k mark, were generally more expensive on Teal. High-end pieces like GEBs, FBSS, and especially Mithril 2Her, are suddenly significantly more expensive post-merge. I don't have a clue why Mithril 2Her is preposterously overvalued now, but I also question whether it's actually selling for 20k+ or if that's just what people are asking. There are also a few other shifts in the economy, like the fact that Rubicite pieces are now sold far more often than I ever saw on Teal, where the norm was more that people would trade their extra pieces to fill in the gaps in their own sets. My suspicion is that this change isn't a Green vs. Teal thing but rather that the server reached a certain tipping point in its age/development that led to Rubicite coming up for sale.

[DMN]

Miths hold value even into kunark/velious for pet haste items. Necro's right now should get them for sure, to haste their pets since they have jack shit for haste otherwise. Enchanters can get a mith and then just use aug and they get the benefits of having a pet hasted to swift like wind speed levels.

Swift = ~1000 mana per hour to keep up
Aug = ~180


Also besides saving a ton of mana, some nice for QoL improvements as it has the same duration as half hour buffs so easy to know when to refresh it. less stuff to remember, less swapping in spells. has about half the cast time, too, so less risk of getting a beak made cast. All very nice for chanter.

[Siege]

Its simply, there are not enough cash to buy all uber items, some one have the plat for sure, but the mass community dont have 20kp to buy all items are drop every day and people expect sale for 20k or more, specialy the ones what are becoming trash in khunark, just main tank of raid guilds need being full geared, and this are just for weapons, why armor are from planar equipment.

This mean uber expensive items are for twink alters, and so much twink people is waiting iksars.

Those items aren't being purchased by people who play the game. They're being speculated on and hoarded by a cartel of tunnel fatcats. They're the P99 equivalent of gold bricks.

[Baler]

Project 1999 economy doesn't work like other games. It's hugely based on perception of price and value. When these don't equally translate to the hard in game numbers.

[Swish]

If you don't like it... either farm it yourself or save the plat and pay the fat cats their money.

[GinnasP99]

Glittering gold, trinkets and baubles. Paid for in blood.

[cd288]

the prices are kinda stupid tbh, why do people want 20k plat this early in the game? most players are making maybe 100 plat a day selling FS

like people have said the high end items are just being traded between the poopsockers and are not realistic to obtain for most people, whill the medium and low end items like impskin gloves/gator legs are going for very reasonable prices

so no, the economy is fine, its just those very few highly sought after items are being circulated mostly between the people that play EQ1 and only EQ1

100 plat per day? That's pocket change for many classes my dude. There are people out there making thousands per day easily.

[Wallicker]

yea I mean there are TONS of places you can make 100pp an hr in classic and others where you can make significantly more.

[Mattius]

You can't expect ppl to ask for a little, you basically have to expect them to ask for a lot.. Firstly, it's people we're talking about, secondly, it's a fairly early period of time for the game, and things that are considered good now, and not the best perhaps later, are top tier non-lores for now, and will yeild big money, regardless.

[Doktoor]

I really wonder if the OP is high enough level to get in a group to farm the Mith 2h?

Money comes like a J-curve as you level. When you're lvl 45+, money pours in a lot easier through higher lvl mobs who drop more money and access to drops that fetch a higher price.

If you're in your 20s or 30s and can't afford stuff that people that are 10-30 levels higher than kill, then I don't know what to say to you other than you have entitlement issues and need to realize that the server is 2 months old and on live/classic, no one had shit for the first several months.

[tommydgun]

The comments here are all over the place. I'll bite my tongue on the elementary understanding of economics that people on a video game forum have, but I am not being entitled and this thread is not about a mith 2hander. The item was used as an example to show the ridiculous disparity between asking price and offer which yields no sales. I actually dont give a damn about a mith 2hander. The point is nobody is buying for 20k and nobody is selling for 8k. This is why I am saying the economy sucks. Back in the day for example an FBSS was 8 to 10k. The item actually sold for 8k by people trying to dump quickly and 10k to people who were desperate to buy quickly. It was a reasonable range. 8 to 20k for a mith 2h is not a reasonable range.

[Polycaster]

All MMO economic problems are because servers are essentially using fiat currency; it is created out of nothing by the game. Clearly what is needed, what will solve all economic problems is if we went back to the gold standard. Only X # of each type of coin can be in existence at any time, and only when a coin is spent at a vendor or trainer can a new one spawn on a mob corpse. For more details please send tells to my alt Ronpaulforprez the gnome wizard.

[cd288]

The comments here are all over the place. I'll bite my tongue on the elementary understanding of economics that people on a video game forum have, but I am not being entitled and this thread is not about a mith 2hander. The item was used as an example to show the ridiculous disparity between asking price and offer which yields no sales. I actually dont give a damn about a mith 2hander. The point is nobody is buying for 20k and nobody is selling for 8k. This is why I am saying the economy sucks. Back in the day for example an FBSS was 8 to 10k. The item actually sold for 8k by people trying to dump quickly and 10k to people who were desperate to buy quickly. It was a reasonable range. 8 to 20k for a mith 2h is not a reasonable range.

Give it time man. The server has been around for like 3 months so things are still developing as items and plat make it into the economy and things settle. Plus you also have the recent merge with Teal, which throws things out of whack a bit as people used to one economy now get used to the combined version. Fresh servers take awhile to really settle into the type of consistency you're describing (Blue did too).

[Doktoor]

The comments here are all over the place. I'll bite my tongue on the elementary understanding of economics that people on a video game forum have, but I am not being entitled and this thread is not about a mith 2hander. The item was used as an example to show the ridiculous disparity between asking price and offer which yields no sales. I actually dont give a damn about a mith 2hander. The point is nobody is buying for 20k and nobody is selling for 8k. This is why I am saying the economy sucks. Back in the day for example an FBSS was 8 to 10k. The item actually sold for 8k by people trying to dump quickly and 10k to people who were desperate to buy quickly. It was a reasonable range. 8 to 20k for a mith 2h is not a reasonable range.

Well, if that's your point, then your conclusion is wrong. The title of your thread shouldn't be "the economy is fucked" because it isnt. I've made a ton of plat farming things and I not only move stuff easily (definition of a healthy economy), but I feel I get a fair price and that includes low, mid, and higher end stuff. The title should be, "some people in EC are freaking ridiculous." Those two things are mutually exclusive.

[tommydgun]

It's not just that it is fiat money and all MMO economies are definitely not the same, not even close. For starters EQ has no plat sink really of any global significance. But the inflation doesnt really occur on all items it is very selective. My conclusion is fine. The economy currently sucks. Items aren't selling especially at the high end. You can tell because the same people are selling the same items at the same prices for days or weeks and if you ever call them out on it they say, "LOL IVE SOLD TWO BAGS FULL THIS WEEK" or something asinine.

[Polycaster]

And by asinine you mean relevant to the discussion? I don't think you know what that word means. Selling stuff at a set price and selling those items at that price (or a bit lower due to haggling) is how an economy is supposed to work. I'm not quite sure what our whine is about.

[Smellybuttface]

It's not just that it is fiat money and all MMO economies are definitely not the same, not even close. For starters EQ has no plat sink really of any global significance.
^
This is true. Some games are able to control inflation by built-in mechanisms to remove large swaths of currency in the game. If anyone has played the Elder Scrolls Online, trading spots in that game are auctioned off weekly for player guilds to bid over. To get a choice trading location in the game, guilds would spend exorbitant sums of money to acquire. This removes that much currency from the game, and the market can stay at an equilibrium. EQ has never had this, and it's why servers that have been up for a long time (ex. Firiona Vie on live) have high-end items going for 12-15 million platinum.

[DMN]

Dude wants to buy the best DPS weapon in the game, and best twinking item in the game for like 8 months, one that doesn't even require getting another 20K+ FBSS. Dude is a cheap and bad, prolly from teal who missed his chance to buy from the idiots on that sever who had no idea he value of anything in vanilla.

[TripSin]

Dude wants to buy the best DPS weapon in the game, and best twinking item in the game for like 8 months, one that doesn't even require getting another 20K+ FBSS. Dude is a cheap and bad, prolly from teal who missed his chance to buy from the idiots on that sever who had no idea he value of anything in vanilla.

Some Teal players valued having lives outside of a 21-year-old video game emulator. I'm sure your parents are so proud of you trying to price gouge for some pixels in a video game, but I'd bet they'd be even more proud if you acquired a real currency that actually has real value so you could pay rent and move out of their basement.

[tommydgun]

DMN I think you're lost, RNF is the other link. Also your dumb ass must've missed the part where I said this thread isn't about a mith 2hander. Guess we can stop posting here now that the trash let itself in...

[shovelquest]

WHAT I dont get a free mith 2her 5 months before kunark????

[DMN]

DMN I think you're lost, RNF is the other link. Also your dumb ass must've missed the part where I said this thread isn't about a mith 2hander. Guess we can stop posting here now that the trash let itself in...

Save your money and you will get a mith some day. Crybing about it in general server forum sin't going to get you one. And your thread is the one that belongs in RnF buddy.

[Kohedron]

What?

You mean to tell me Everquest has a crap economy?

I didn't know this 20 years ago! Crazy!

[TheDudeAbides]

Was just running through EC

50K for a full set of Rubicite

[Prova]

Dude wants to buy the best DPS weapon in the game, and best twinking item in the game for like 8 months, one that doesn't even require getting another 20K+ FBSS. Dude is a cheap and bad, prolly from teal who missed his chance to buy from the idiots on that sever who had no idea he value of anything in vanilla.

Aren't you the same fucking moron who has an entire thread about Efreeti rings being too expensive when they're also the best ring and the game and an item that also doesnt instantly disintegrate in value in 8 months? You piece of shit.

[DMN]

Aren't you the same fucking moron who has an entire thread about Efreeti rings being too expensive when they're also the best ring and the game and an item that also doesnt instantly disintegrate in value in 8 months? You piece of shit.

That item I constantly use on my necromancer on velious/blue? The rings are good but not that good. There are nearly as good items as they are but cheap as dirt, which is the problem. if we used the same logic as djarn rings usefulness to a character versus one who could equip a mith, mith would run 934918639688364869398463694683681964913264369823 platinum.Go back to blue or keep dreaming about teal.

[Tilien]

^
This is true. Some games are able to control inflation by built-in mechanisms to remove large swaths of currency in the game. If anyone has played the Elder Scrolls Online, trading spots in that game are auctioned off weekly for player guilds to bid over. To get a choice trading location in the game, guilds would spend exorbitant sums of money to acquire. This removes that much currency from the game, and the market can stay at an equilibrium. EQ has never had this, and it's why servers that have been up for a long time (ex. Firiona Vie on live) have high-end items going for 12-15 million platinum.

But the problem is the effects are wrong based on what everyone says. Or.. were wrong on Blue. I guess we'll see on Green.

The problem is that as people level up mid range items become more common and the only people who need them are people with less money who haven't played as much. This has a massive DEflationary effect on the economy. This is why on Blue you can buy a full kit that would be fine for level 50-55 level content for easily under 10k. Despite no where for plat to go, inflation only exists in limited ways in p99.

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

Aren't you the same fucking moron who has an entire thread about Efreeti rings being too expensive when they're also the best ring and the game and an item that also doesnt instantly disintegrate in value in 8 months? You piece of shit.

LOL this thread got juicy fast!

[Doktoor]

Aren't you the same fucking moron who has an entire thread about Efreeti rings being too expensive when they're also the best ring and the game and an item that also doesnt instantly disintegrate in value in 8 months? You piece of shit.

Methamphetamine use damages the connections between the part of the brain that makes us human and the part of the brain that makes us monkeys.

[shovelquest]

I love everquest.

[Siege]

Was just running through EC

50K for a full set of Rubicite

Which is essentially 50k for the breastplate since the rest of it is garbo.

And they laughed when I predicted 40k Rubicite Breastplates weeks ago.

[Hazek]

Which is essentially 50k for the breastplate since the rest of it is garbo.

And they laughed when I predicted 40k Rubicite Breastplates weeks ago.

Other pieces are overpriced but they're not garbage because they have some of the highest AC.

[DMN]

There is no accounting for fashionquest. i think someone was seelling a Rubi BP earlier for 25k.

[Bigsham]

im almost level 4, i know its low, but where should i level my next few levels with a main interest in earning money? i dont want any handouts or free stuff i like earning slow. I am definitley not in a hurry but want to put in some exp if i could while getting cash. thx

Bigsham

[DMN]

im almost level 4, i know its low, but where should i level my next few levels with a main interest in earning money? i dont want any handouts or free stuff i like earning slow. I am definitley not in a hurry but want to put in some exp if i could while getting cash. thx

Bigsham

Bone chips--> orc belts --> goblin ears

[gherron]

Bone chips--> orc belts --> goblin ears

This. I made a ton of money by selling every belt I got to get a full set of banded. Totally worth it.

[EricaOgre]

There is no accounting for fashionquest. i think someone was seelling a Rubi BP earlier for 25k.

I ended up selling it for 23k

[Tethler]

Bone chips--> orc belts --> goblin ears

This is good advice. Around level 10 you can also solo grind lightstones to vendor if you have a hard time soloing orcs or getting into an orc group. Greaters vendor for 5p each and there are plenty of wisps in north karana and a decent supply in WC provided several people aren't hunting them.

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

Bone chips--> orc belts --> goblin ears

Very solid advice. Anytime I’m passing through EC and I see a CB belt auction I pm them one word, “sold”. Doesn’t matter the price they’re asking (they’ve all been reasonable to me). I buy them from anywhere from 1.5 pp per to 5pp per.

[BlackBellamy]

im almost level 4, i know its low, but where should i level my next few levels with a main interest in earning money? i dont want any handouts or free stuff i like earning slow. I am definitley not in a hurry but want to put in some exp if i could while getting cash. thx

Bigsham

Don't get fixated on money. You only need enough to buy a set of banded and some shit shield and weapon. You can make that farming bone chips in one evening. After that forget money. Concentrate on exp. Your number one priority is getting higher levels because your ability to farm money increases drastically as you level.

[Modwolf]

This is good advice. Around level 10 you can also solo grind lightstones to vendor if you have a hard time soloing orcs or getting into an orc group. Greaters vendor for 5p each and there are plenty of wisps in north karana and a decent supply in WC provided several people aren't hunting them.

The GLS quest in NK not up yet? Double that GLS money and they spawn around the turn in.

[fadetree]

Yeah it's 9pp for the GLS. IIRC you get a book you can sell back for 9pp.

[cd288]

Very solid advice. Anytime I’m passing through EC and I see a CB belt auction I pm them one word, “sold”. Doesn’t matter the price they’re asking (they’ve all been reasonable to me). I buy them from anywhere from 1.5 pp per to 5pp per.

5pp is a lot per belt post-EXP nerf

[crossplay]

Economically, anyone want to farm a couple Kicsh Der Pavz with me?

[Frug]

Yeah it's 9pp for the GLS. IIRC you get a book you can sell back for 9pp.

Yes, but not yet. I think the next patch though.

[Bigsham]

wait you turn in lightstones forthe concordanance of research or something at gypsey camp?:

i remember doing that for training runes

[Smellybuttface]

wait you turn in lightstones forthe concordanance of research or something at gypsey camp?:

i remember doing that for training runes

https://wiki.project1999.com/Research_Aid

[Mil]

WTB Manastone for 1kpps. Can I haz?

[ravinz]

The lightstones quests are not in game.

[bum3]

One of the reasons I started green was for a fresh economy. I forgot blue players were going to green too. Now i'm just playing blue2.0.

[Bigsham]

Green will never have an economy because players are different now and are completely anti social, everything just gets thrown in the bank because its not worth the effort.

[bum3]

Green will never have an economy because players are different now and are completely anti social, everything just gets thrown in the bank because its not worth the effort.

Nah. It's more like people now have jobs and families. Except the poopsock tunnelers. They just got pixels.

[Dolalin]

A big reason I usually solo is because the baby could wake up at literally any moment. I can't just peace out of a group after 10 minutes.

[RipVanFish]

The economy is fine.

[Kanuvan]

its all a illusion and the economy is booming

you wanna see why all you see is 3 macro's being spammed the same items? because they never sell lol, once something with a resonable price is listed it gets scooped up immediately

it just looks like nothing is moving because of the same macro being spammed of items that never sell, when under the hood is a nice meaty economy

[Smellybuttface]

I’m still not sure why jewelry prices haven’t standardized. The price/profit margin on those is usually pretty set. I guess not enough jewelry crafters yet in the game for competition to drive the prices down.

[Evia]

I’m still not sure why jewelry prices haven’t standardized. The price/profit margin on those is usually pretty set. I guess not enough jewelry crafters yet in the game for competition to drive the prices down.

Yeah jewelry prices are wack

[Zeboim]

That'll happen after more gems are vendor buyable.

[DMN]

its all a illusion and the economy is booming

you wanna see why all you see is 3 macro's being spammed the same items? because they never sell lol, once something with a resonable price is listed it gets scooped up immediately

it just looks like nothing is moving because of the same macro being spammed of items that never sell, when under the hood is a nice meaty economy

I always spam 90% of the same items. Not because they aren't selling but because I farmed a ton of those items. in fact, I'm usually spamming the items that sell the best. You aren't alone; it seems many people have this mistaken impression. I lost count of how mnay people have offered me some plat for "stuff that isn't selling" or were astonished I had another item of which I just sold them one of.

[Ravager]

I love everquest.
Hi Yendor.

[Bigsham]

all you need is 2 or 3 guys that run a pawn shop that people can dump crappy gear to that sell all day for plat. This probably wont happen for a bit

[YendorLootmonkey]

Hi Yendor.

LOL just saw this... you know I don't play alts. That extends to ForumQuest as well. :P

[DMN]

The economy is really weird, sometimes things are selling quite fast and other nights nothing sells, even if its the same time of day, same prices, etc. Very strange.

[cd288]

The economy is really weird, sometimes things are selling quite fast and other nights nothing sells, even if its the same time of day, same prices, etc. Very strange.

Yeah I agree, it's almost like you're completely reliant on total chance that someone will happen to be in EC looking to buy that item at the same time of day and at the same price as last time.

[DMN]

Yeah I agree, it's almost like you're completely reliant on total chance that someone will happen to be in EC looking to buy that item at the same time of day and at the same price as last time.

1-2 items versus 13-20 over a couple hours. I could crack out some stats to prove it's not by chance, but it would be useless as I doubt you even know basic algebra.

[drdrakes]

1-2 items versus 13-20 over a couple hours. I could crack out some stats to prove it's not by chance, but it would be useless as I doubt you even know basic algebra.

Just like with porting if you have some idea of raid/ named times you know when to expect people with plat to be around. It's constantly shifting a little but there's a couple times a day I know I'm porting to LS for instance.

[sedrie.bellamie]

all you casters tipping 25pp is why there are not druids/wizards to port on green

put that money into the economy

[cd288]

all you casters tipping 25pp is why there are not druids/wizards to port on green

put that money into the economy

Aren't Druids the most populated class on Green?

Lol

[cornisthebest]

how is 25p not a good tip, thats like the average hill/ice giant

[El-Hefe]

how is 25p not a good tip, thats like the average hill/ice giant

25p is a fine tip.

[seconds]

If I'm actively porting I don't mind a 25pp tip but I'm not definitely not leaving my camp for some dude that is like SRO to NK for 25pp?

[Ravager]

/anon works well to not be bothered while camping stuff. Of course, I always just considered it good etiquette to not bother porters unless they are already in a porting zone or advertising ports.

[YendorLootmonkey]

/anon works well to not be bothered while camping stuff. Of course, I always just considered it good etiquette to not bother porters unless they are already in a porting zone or advertising ports.

I've seen Ravager get a druid to port him to the NK rings from the NK spires.

[Bigsham]

well it is far and you can get lost

[Doktoor]

/anon works well to not be bothered while camping stuff. Of course, I always just considered it good etiquette to not bother porters unless they are already in a porting zone or advertising ports.

I stay unanon and get tells all the time in exp zones. Even OOT from people that are not in OOT. I don’t mind. It’s part of the game. If a Druid doesn’t want to deal with tells, they can go anon. I leave solo camps sometimes for regulars who tip well and people I’ve experienced with in groups for a long time.