Lists don’t work cause people share accounts

[Sethius Marlowe]

Fight me.

It was a good thought but it’s a dumb system. You cause solve a problem by causing another. Didn’t want people to lock down the camp so it got made that any good item was guaranteed. But also probably guaranteed to take days. And then have an weird gravity well of sunk cost that the longer you’re there the more you should stay. Won’t be better with the merge.

Bring back people’s opportunity to go win an item randomly in 30 minutes so people feel like giving shit a chance. Everyone loves gambling and if there’s a chance to win people have fun. That’s the game.

[Smellybuttface]

But lists have worked. If it wasn’t for lists, the high end guilds would neckbeard those camps to death and just pass them from one guildie to the next. At least with lists even commonfolk have a chance at the legacy items.
People wouldn’t have to account share if the drop rates weren’t so abysmally low. But why should someone stay up for 50 hours straight when they can easily have a friend share the load?

[Kron]

They work but need some changes. If you log or /q you should be booted the bottom of the list.

You can clearly tell people logging out and a min later log back in and look around like they need to get their bearings.

[loramin]

But lists have worked. If it wasn’t for lists, the high end guilds would neckbeard those camps to death and just pass them from one guildie to the next. At least with lists even commonfolk have a chance at the legacy items.
People wouldn’t have to account share if the drop rates weren’t so abysmally low. But why should someone stay up for 50 hours straight when they can easily have a friend share the load?

I think this is key. I'm a big believer that lists could work better, but it's undeniable (to anyone who played on Blue for 5+ years prior to Green and Teal) that lists are a massive improvement over letting neckbeards (unclassically) run rampant without supervision.

[derpcake2]

I think this is key. I'm a big believer that lists could work better, but it's undeniable (to anyone who played on Blue for 5+ years prior to Green and Teal) that lists are a massive improvement over letting neckbeards (unclassically) run rampant without supervision.

I can't imagine a scenario that is worse compared to competing with account-sharing neckbeards camping items for over 50 hours.

This from a casual euro red player.

On the upside there is going to be the account stripping drama in a while so it isn't all bad.

[loramin]

I can't imagine a scenario that is worse compared to competing with account-sharing neckbeards camping items for over 50 hours.

That's exactly it. You can't make those people go away. And you can't isolate them on their own server (us on Teal kind of had that for awhile, but it couldn't last).

The only solution is to create a system that lets both sane and insane people play together and have fun, and trust me: /list does that far, far better than simply letting players do whatever they want. On Blue we've had guilds monopolizing items for months at a time ... and those weren't items that were going away, they were items that were guaranteed to be there in a year on Blue.

Again, I'm not saying /list is perfect, but it's just so much better than no rules.

[Bardp1999]

Get gud shit head

[BurtMacklinFBI]

I wish they got rid of lists so I could personally deny casual scum their Non-Lore manastones and soak up the REEEEES

[Tilien]

Just make the list recycle into a 100% new order every time the item drops so people who go to bed at night have a chance to get cool stuff.

It's called EVER-quest, not "quest, take a break for sleep, and then quest more"-quest.

[shuklak]

EverCamp then.

[stewe]

I loved it, i am on break til kunark now but account sharing is how i got all my characters i want to play jboots, DE masks if they needed them, and 4 manastones, even the other 2 ppl i did it with got all their stuff plus multiple manastones thanks to the server separation, not against the rules so maybe u should have made friends that play if you dont like it. Should have lvled faster as well, we got the majority of our manastones when there was hardly anyone else even doing the camp and it was pretty easy to lvl a character up to 35, specially once we got our PLing druid max lvl.

[Magerin]

Simple fix. Make the item no trade, lore, soul bound, and make the manastone drop zone wide from level 35+(or whatever level EE is) frogs. Make the drop rate the same as the boxes are currently. like .05% chance or something.

[Tethler]

Simple fix. Make the item no trade, lore, soul bound, and make the manastone drop zone wide from level 35+(or whatever level EE is) frogs. Make the drop rate the same as the boxes are currently. like .05% chance or something.

no

[Tecmos Deception]

improvement over letting neckbeards (unclassically) run rampant without supervision.

Because so many normal people stay online responding to ago checks for 30+ hours straight and/or set up spreadsheets to cover 24/7 account sharing with internet pals? Lol.

[Asteria]

Because so many normal people stay online responding to ago checks for 30+ hours straight and/or set up spreadsheets to cover 24/7 account sharing with internet pals? Lol.

Acting all tough... :o

[Nuggie]

If it weren't for /list casuals would have 0% chance at a manastone from EE(hey some day you might be able to afford them, but prob not). Pray Rogean.

[cd288]

I would bet there are more manastones in the hands of random players who aren't members of the guild that would've monopolized the camp than there would be if said guild had been permitted to monopolize the camp. The list system isn't perfect, but it's way better than things would've been without it.

[Modwolf]

If it weren't for /list casuals would have 0% chance at a manastone from EE(hey some day you might be able to afford them, but prob not). Pray Rogean.

[Phatez]

Make friends.