Rip p99 you had a good run.

[silo32]

400 online after merge.

Most of u were boxing. #notmyclassic.

Nothing will rival blue or red release. I was 16 when original eq came out. Most people here are pushing 40.

Are we having fun yet?

In other mmo communities I play on anything less then sub 1k pop 24/7 is consider dead or dying. Pre merge both servers were healthy. I'm gone for the weekend haven't played since Thursday.

Can't wait to see how this pans out. TBH I don't see myself playing in 2021.

I came for the fresh. I'm gonna be a social player but I don't see this project holding up much longer.

We had a good run boys


Time to be a dad

PS yes when I do quit before kunark release you can have my stuff.

Have all ready done it all and had a blast here. Killed all the dragons. Woke the sleeper. All my alts got epic's.

Now I'm here for the popcorn and to report all the stupidly name violations I see in ec tunnel.

[f2pelerin1182]

I don't understand why so many people are upset about the servers being merged, the only reason they opened Teal (as far as I'm aware) was to temporarily help with overpopulation of low level areas - which isn't a problem any more.

I think it's nice to have everyone back on one server again.

[Malikail]

I don't understand why so many people are upset about the servers being merged, the only reason they opened Teal (as far as I'm aware) was to temporarily help with overpopulation of low level areas - which isn't a problem any more.

I think it's nice to have everyone back on one server again.

Not a chance. I'll tell you exactly why I'm pissed. I have no desire to play the game the way the people who were bitching and want the servers merged, want to force everyone to play the game. Combined with the cult-like mentality of saying "it's not classic" when the server is clearly not classic not at all.

The dev team and certain loud voices on the forums made it perfectly clear they don't care if we're happy and they don't care if it's actually classic as long as it makes them happy. Maybe there will be enough of them to form a viable community. I got to be honest though I think it'd be really funny if none of the servers ever top 400 again and the number of players just dwindles off till the whole thing dies. I don't want to see that I'd love to see some other solution where more people are happy there's a Vibrant Community in the games worth playing but that's not the case.

I deeply miss what it was, I don't at all miss what it's become, and unless something changes I never will. But hey I'm just one guy all those hundreds and hundreds of people are going to come rushing back any minute now right? /snicker

[f2pelerin1182]

Not a chance. I'll tell you exactly why I'm pissed. I have no desire to play the game the way the people who were bitching and want the servers merged, want to force everyone to play the game. Combined with the cult-like mentality of saying "it's not classic" when the server is clearly not classic not at all.

The dev team and certain loud voices on the forums made it perfectly clear they don't care if we're happy and they don't care if it's actually classic as long as it makes them happy. Maybe there will be enough of them to form a viable community. I got to be honest though I think it'd be really funny if none of the servers ever top 400 again and the number of players just dwindles off till the whole thing dies. I don't want to see that I'd love to see some other solution where more people are happy there's a Vibrant Community in the games worth playing but that's not the case.

I deeply miss what it was, I don't at all miss what it's become, and unless something changes I never will. But hey I'm just one guy all those hundreds and hundreds of people are going to come rushing back any minute now right? /snicker

How is anyone forcing you to play the game any way other than what you want?

How does Green and Teal being merged make any difference to that?

It's sad that you'd enjoy seeing something that's been created by volunteers and free to enjoy by anyone "dwindle away and die".

There were 1200 people playing on Green earlier, I imagine most of whom were having a good time - I was.

I still don't understand why the merge has made so many people upset.

[Hagglebaron]

400 online after merge.

Most of u were boxing. #notmyclassic.

Nothing will rival blue or red release. I was 16 when original eq came out. Most people here are pushing 40.

Are we having fun yet?

In other mmo communities I play on anything less then sub 1k pop 24/7 is consider dead or dying. Pre merge both servers were healthy. I'm gone for the weekend haven't played since Thursday.

Can't wait to see how this pans out. TBH I don't see myself playing in 2021.

I came for the fresh. I'm gonna be a social player but I don't see this project holding up much longer.

We had a good run boys


Time to be a dad

PS yes when I do quit before kunark release you can have my stuff.

Have all ready done it all and had a blast here. Killed all the dragons. Woke the sleeper. All my alts got epic's.

Now I'm here for the popcorn and to report all the stupidly name violations I see in ec tunnel.

You obviously weren’t around for Blue’s launch or early years, so why are you pretending you were? We were ecstatic to hit 300 players when Blue was new.

Green had 1200 today.

This project has endured ten years through all sorts of eras and changes, and it’s been a blast the whole way. You are obviously not content with p99 however, so instead of constantly spewing this crap all over the forums, can you please just move on?

[Tethler]

I would have preferred for the servers to stay split a bit longer, but I'll play green and I'm sure I'll enjoy it too. All the quitters are doing the rest of us the service of bringing green down to a more sustainable population. Thanks, OP!

[Asteria]

Entertaining troll post, OP. :p

[Kanuvan]

"I didnt get my legacy items so im mad"

Basically all the complainers

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

OP is way, way too immersed.

Seek help.

[Thrombosis]

I would have preferred for the servers to stay split a bit longer, but I'll play green and I'm sure I'll enjoy it too. All the quitters are doing the rest of us the service of bringing green down to a more sustainable population. Thanks, OP!

Same here. Must admit Green is somewhat tainted for me by the experience of the first few days - when things were so overcrowded people were camping decaying skeleton spawn points and there were >70 people in Nek Forest.

I think the problem is that the Teal/Green communities and economies were naturally diverging, so although it's painful, doing the merge sooner rather than later will be the least amount of pain in the long run. I'm thankful that we got Teal at all really.

[Fawqueue]

Honestly this merge has highlighted what I believe is the real problem: The journey matters. We've been separate since the beginning, and we've become so accustomed to the politics, people, and culture of each individual server. We see the same faces as we progress, build relationships, and felt generally comfortable with how things were and our place in it.

And then the merge was sprung on us without warning, and now everyone is forced to occupy the usual spaces with a bunch of strangers, trying to awkwardly navigate everything without the advantage of a shared history to bring us together. I instantly saw groups unwilling to take members of the other server, as if there were some purpose or duty to isolate from one and another.

I didn't really consider any of that when I moved to Teal, but now I'm a little sad while playing. Not because I want to have easy access to camps, or hate Seal Team or any of that. I just got so used to seeing the same faces and knowing where we all stood, that it's deflating to feel like we're starting over in a way.

[Lovebags]

I don't understand why so many people are upset about the servers being merged, the only reason they opened Teal (as far as I'm aware) was to temporarily help with overpopulation of low level areas - which isn't a problem any more.

I think it's nice to have everyone back on one server again.

The staff just don't get it or something. All these years and they still just don't understand anything. They ruined the damn merge themselves by letting people dbl box instances of green and teal, and forced their own hand in moving it in order to preserve drop quantities of legacy items. They have this idea that if they just make all the normal things into a massive breadline, that all the low ZEM areas with no loot far away from bind points will suddenly be worth going to, really people just give up.

In the week leading up to re-merge i nightly ran my ranger between HK, SOlB, Guk, CT, troll guards and ogre guards and guild chat looking for groups, and guess what? Everybody had all the help they needed in all the normal camps. Not surprised, there isn't much in that level range. I was hoping maybe this week i'd have some better luck, but i guess fuck me. The GMs have probably never even bothered trying to join a group on either of these servers.

The server would be more classic if toxic players feared the consequences of their behavior a tad more. Maybe Seal Team wouldn't have been "the only guild on green" if they were held to standards regarding training when they were "the only guild on green". If they had ever been raidbanned for even 1 week for literally any of their bullshit, a new guild would have formed in exodus and taken the mobs. The situation would have self corrected, but instead of anything logical or rational or measured like that we get a worthless breadline of a server till kunark hits.

The server pop mightve handled 600+ in classic with no wiki, but it only handles 300+ people rushing to 50 and chasing the same wiki designated pixels. You couldv'e probly had 5 classic servers with 200-400 person pops. Now you will have one classic server with a 400-800 pop and a sleeper pop waiting for kunark. People will just quit playing because there just isn't room for them to. MOST PEOPLE don't want to be stuck on the same server with all the tryhards trolls and streamers all going at it with eachother. MOST PEOPLE don't want to play on Tichondrius or Blackrock. But here we are pigeon-holed, and all those dudes are allowed to come to where everyone else is going and dbl box. Shessh. How fkn tone deaf.

[Frug]

400 online after merge.

Uh, no.

Perhaps at some instant in time as primetime was ramping up and teal people were trying to figure out what was going on, but at no single hour did the population max at 400.

It MIGHT see that now in the 5 AM EST hour. Maybe.

https://i.imgur.com/HDTU53j.png

[Canelek]

Eh. Don't be a dick, be nice to people. It sucks that they jammed us all into a small space, but let's make the best of it.

[ravax]

You thought experience camps from 40-50 were hard to get into before on Green? LOL. The zombies on Green never sleep. They do 12-20 hour power grinds. This is going to be tough on my coffee pot. Sigh. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Teal folks are fine people, it's just a little crowded as it is.

On a positive note, Split Paw might have a group? Don't forget to bind in HHK? LFG in Split paw.

[Kanuvan]

just because players cant grow a pair and spread out to slightly more dangerous zones with slightly less xp doesnt mean the world is crowded
just because 100 lemmings all crowd into HHK and unrest doesnt mean the servers are full

[Dolalin]

1300 players was a low pop server in classic EQ. It's fine.

Move to resolved.

[slayith]

Hope you enjoy the clusterfuck. All this will accomplish will be to cause players to quit. Leaving us with 1 server with teal/green pop than 2 of them. May just take a month or so for enough to get fed up with playing with shitheels.

[sycopata666]

So , you cant camps with 400 players online? Im in everquest from 1999 solusek ro and i remember days with no exp gain,
and people disputing caiman spawn to get some exp. The actual green experience is so much fair and sofcore i have reqch a bronze plate armor at lvl 40 in 1999 and manastone was a epic item own just by a pair of dudes. If everione own a manastone, the epica is gone.

[sycopata666]

Some of the veterans rember the old list concept? People joining lists to enter in a group for farm a room, alot people just sit in the floor waiting the current tank / healer / dps leave the group to take spot, and the classic spots like the FBSS in lower guk, campet 24/7 and people waiting hours tonget a place in the group, and then win the Random 1 100 if the item drops.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

WahhhhhHhhhhHhhhhh!

[Prova]

I think the saddest thing is all of the reasonable, casual people are probably going to be the ones to quit over this. The ones who say 'WahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahHHHHahhhHHHH' and 'you didn't get your pixels lul' etc are the ones who will stay. The remaining population will be a cesspool of masochists and braindead trolls.

[zaneosak]

So the people that are pissed are mostly people who can't get legacy items. Is the only reason these people wanted Green to even come out was a chance to get a legacy item just to say they have a legacy item on some green server they don't care about before they go back to Blue? Some complains just reek of complaining to complain for the sake of complaining.

Devs are the problem
Not really classic isnt the problem
Overpopulation isn't the problem

The attitude of most of the P99 playerbase is the problem. It's mostly entitled people who would rather play the game alone without the MMO part of the RPG. They feel they are owed something just by logging in. They shouldn't have to wait for a rare camp, they should just get it because they are a 20 year veteran of the game and damn it, it's their turn. They shouldn't have to sit and go off the beaten path for shitty XP because nothing else is available, they should get Upper Guk Zoneline group in a duo or trio for maximum EXP because fuck everybody else, they know the best camp, they know 6 man groups are inefficient and fuck you.

Nothing about P99 is classic as far as the PLAYERS go, the players are different now and understand the game inside and out, things have evolved into toxicity, mememe, and just overall dickheadishness. Some choose to still play and the game is free, so stop whining about the developers and the things you can't control and try being less of an entitled prick and maybe you'd enjoy the game a little more for what it actually is.

For what it's worth, alot of people I run into are pretty nice on the surface in passing, but the 1 asshole outweighs the 10 nice people you met that day.

[Anxarcule]

I think the saddest thing is all of the reasonable, casual people are probably going to be the ones to quit over this. The ones who say 'WahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahHHHHahhhHHHH' and 'you didn't get your pixels lul' etc are the ones who will stay. The remaining population will be a cesspool of masochists and braindead trolls.

This. I had a decent spot to get experience and good money for the level that was available maybe 60% of the time (on Green) prior to the merge... I've checked a few times since the merge and every time is was occupied either by high levels just farming coin and/or a line of people. Once I found this spot I felt like I had some opportunity to participate in trading with the insane prices, now it looks like that won't be happening any time soon... hell even during what was traditionally off hours a lvl 50 shaman is killing non-stop with another guy waiting in line for over an hour hoping he will leave. But let's just say "that's classic" so nobody is allowed to voice anything other than happiness

[slayith]

All these poor strawmen arguments and poor logic.from diseased minds. I swear most of these responses seem to lack any argument other than happiness that others are rightfully frustrated.

There was already not enough content 40-50 for the 2 servers. Most reasonable people dont want to spend 2 hours minimum just to have a chance at some content. Merging the servers will guaranteed have the effect of lowering the overall total population. I'm thinking server overhead costs should drop some.

[solleks]

if only mom wouldve made me ham instead of pnut i wouldnt have to run away and live in the streets look what mommy did to me. got a dollar?

[Malikail]

So the people that are pissed are mostly people who can't get legacy items. Is the only reason these people wanted Green to even come out was a chance to get a legacy item just to say they have a legacy item on some green server they don't care about before they go back to Blue? Some complains just reek of complaining to complain for the sake of complaining.

Devs are the problem
Not really classic isnt the problem
Overpopulation isn't the problem

The attitude of most of the P99 playerbase is the problem. It's mostly entitled people who would rather play the game alone without the MMO part of the RPG. They feel they are owed something just by logging in. They shouldn't have to wait for a rare camp, they should just get it because they are a 20 year veteran of the game and damn it, it's their turn. They shouldn't have to sit and go off the beaten path for shitty XP because nothing else is available, they should get Upper Guk Zoneline group in a duo or trio for maximum EXP because fuck everybody else, they know the best camp, they know 6 man groups are inefficient and fuck you.

Nothing about P99 is classic as far as the PLAYERS go, the players are different now and understand the game inside and out, things have evolved into toxicity, mememe, and just overall dickheadishness. Some choose to still play and the game is free, so stop whining about the developers and the things you can't control and try being less of an entitled prick and maybe you'd enjoy the game a little more for what it actually is.

For what it's worth, alot of people I run into are pretty nice on the surface in passing, but the 1 asshole outweighs the 10 nice people you met that day.

don't paint me with that brush. i don't like the attitude that dominates the forums and that it seems to be shared by the devs. Honestly for me its the fact that even after the forced merge, there is nothing to do and no community or economy to speak of. Those are what we call "emergent systems", they are more like a plant, they grow organically over time. Forced mergers won't help them grow but could harm them, time will tell.

My problem is this simple. Before green launch blue was something special. It is clear it was not valued and it was destroyed intentionally and without reconsideration. The attitudes and actions since are not just nonchalant, its dismissive and perhaps harmful to there ever being a community again here at all.

If the community and economy (really just an indicator of a healthy community) ever recover i would be interested in playing again. I am bored, we farmed all the pixals and have legacy items parked on all our mules. Its not pixels.

Someone has mistaken a healthy community for the ability to easily get a group in stupid, poorly designed 20 year old dungeons (they get better in kunark) and the effect is a visible lack of players.

[solleks]

ITS HARD TO FATHOM THE AMOUNT OF GIANT PUSSIES ON THE INTERNET

[aaezil]

No one cares. Are you quitting? Good!

[bubur]

it's all just a big social experiment

[Malikail]

it's all just a big social experiment

That's literally why I'm still keeping tabs on it I'm curious how this is going to turn out

[Malikail]

No one cares. Are you quitting? Good!

Was there ever a point where I asked you to care? More pixels for you right! Lol

[Dolalin]

If I took one lesson from reading so much classic EQ source material, it was that as soon as people realize they can whine their way to getting something, they don't stop whining, and it eventually ruins everything.

EQ and Verant needed less communication with the players, not more. Less personal, not more personal. Less conciliatory, not more conciliatory.

What most people whine for in Everquest is generally their own personal advantage. They only see as far as the end of their noses. If you give them what they want, you just ruin the game.

Abashi had the right attitude. Fuck the players, lol.

[Danth]

If I took one lesson from reading so much classic EQ source material, it was that as soon as people realize they can whine their way to getting something, they don't stop whining, and it eventually ruins everything.

Long before EQ was a notion, Kesmai studios had a couple sayings. "Players are like rats," and "We could get them all laid and they'd still bitch." That studio perhaps took the opposite extreme too far and tended to refuse to fix anything until it was far too late. There's a good middle ground someplace.

Verant/Sony--when they listened at all--very much had a tendency to listen to the folks who cried the most, and the loudest. Their poor management of their product definitely contributed to its relatively rapid decline.

Danth

[thesoundofmerk]

People Need to just stop, the game is not ruined, Its a free game, it provides THOUSANDS of hours of fun and joy for all of you, and you act like this over something so small? The only thing it effects is legacy items, I never got any, the account sharing was rabid and i couldnt stay up long enough. Was i a little upset? yeah of course! am i gonna complain and say it ruined the game? no way man, this game rocks, its a free community where you can play a game that otherwise WOULD NOT EXIST! All you guys do is whine about whats not right, or what you want, instead of enjoying the aspect of the game that is community and other players, the things that made EQ so memorable and beautiful and fun. Now you just want everyone to be a bot so you can get the most xp and the most items you want. This is going to be good for the economy, the high end raid, and the server. Maybe its too early, but who cares... they do it for free and we should be thankful or move on.

[Malikail]

People Need to just stop, the game is not ruined, Its a free game, it provides THOUSANDS of hours of fun and joy for all of you, and you act like this over something so small? The only thing it effects is legacy items, I never got any, the account sharing was rabid and i couldnt stay up long enough. Was i a little upset? yeah of course! am i gonna complain and say it ruined the game? no way man, this game rocks, its a free community where you can play a game that otherwise WOULD NOT EXIST! All you guys do is whine about whats not right, or what you want, instead of enjoying the aspect of the game that is community and other players, the things that made EQ so memorable and beautiful and fun. Now you just want everyone to be a bot so you can get the most xp and the most items you want. This is going to be good for the economy, the high end raid, and the server. Maybe its too early, but who cares... they do it for free and we should be thankful or move on.

I hope you're right. I hope it is good for the community, so far nothing has been good for the community since green launch. I really don't know why that is, I have ideas but not enough data to even have an opinion.

[Kanuvan]

the 12 demented boomers that whine 24/7 on these forums are not even a fraction of what the real community of eq1 99 green is lol, the majority of people are just playing the game and leveling and enjoying a more social experience, the merge literally is only effecting account sharing goons and legacy farmers which is a minority of the community

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

Are you whiners gone yet? Surely you won’t be sticking around on the terrible server that you hate.

It’s cliche but just head over to live or some modern mmo, it was honestly where you were always going to end up.

[Malikail]

Are you whiners gone yet? Surely you won’t be sticking around on the terrible server that you hate.

It’s cliche but just head over to live or some modern mmo, it was honestly where you were always going to end up.

Nah I'm the opposite. I fired up grand old games and decided to play starflight 2 again. How do you not get that the problem is that the community is disrupted, severely? Stability and time might change that, but its the only thing that will. The merge could help, in the long run, but that's not guaranteed. If they have to split again at kunark release I have no idea how it will be received. It could even bring more players back, that would surprise me but i can't rule it out.

I liked the fact that on blue there were always plenty of people in EC selling, not anymore on blue or teal, maybe green is better. Its not the only thing just the most visible indicator. Its a great sign when you could log in at 1pm on a wednesday afternoon and have close to 100 people in EC tunnel, nothing close is going on today.

[Asteria]

The merge could help, in the long run, but that's not guaranteed. If they have to split again at kunark release.....

IMHO, there is very little chance of another split in the Kunark era unless somehow crazily there were 3K+ players on for over a week of primetime evenings in a row...even if so, it would just be temporary again.

[Mblake81]

Voted NO on the original split. I was fine camping a single spawn, it's not like this is anything new..
the big thing for me was the lively chat as I come from the AOL days..
I dislike voice chatting and people being off in separate discord worlds.
I can imagine you sound like anything I want, including in game races.

also the griff eating noobs was schadenfreude

[Nirgon]

OP biggest asshurt retard on here

Patient zero of the Antonican pox confirmed

Just look at his original post lol

[Horza]

OP biggest asshurt retard on here

Patient zero of the Antonican pox confirmed

Just look at his original post lol

This is quality cringe.

[Nirgon]

Thx cuckster

[Malikail]

IMHO, there is very little chance of another split in the Kunark era unless somehow crazily there were 3K+ players on for over a week of primetime evenings in a row...even if so, it would just be temporary again.

that's good as long as it doesn't happen at all. doing it on a temporary basis is a really bad idea, but since feedback and input aren't welcome i doubt anyone will even care why I think that.

[putrid_plum]

I've never seen so many grown men cry over a free game as much as I have here. It's unreal. Maybe appreciate that you get to play EQ classic for free.

[Bazia]

If you couldn't get easy mode legacy items within 3 months it was not meant to happen for you.

[Bazia]

3 guildless manastones btw

[cd288]

Over 1.1k on right now. Seems like no need to say RIP

Terrible RnF post OP