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Clappy
01-19-2020, 03:35 PM
Discuss!

Zeboim
01-19-2020, 03:36 PM
Dumbest shit I have ever seen.

Imposter
01-19-2020, 03:36 PM
what a dumb decision

Gori88lla
01-19-2020, 03:37 PM
...

BenDerisgreat
01-19-2020, 03:37 PM
2 days before i had planned taking a day off to camp guise... well shiiiieeeet

Erati
01-19-2020, 03:38 PM
let the games begin

Kanuvan
01-19-2020, 03:38 PM
finally if not a troll

tobi
01-19-2020, 03:39 PM
Not even a 24 hour notice for the players. Big oof. Not surprised.

casino777
01-19-2020, 03:40 PM
Overcrowded servers are shit. Stupid as fuck decision.

Thrombosis
01-19-2020, 03:40 PM
Dang - can't help feeling it's a little bit early for that.

Zwieback
01-19-2020, 03:41 PM
kick seal teams ass

ldgo86
01-19-2020, 03:41 PM
Dang - can't help feeling it's a little bit early for that.

Same. I was hoping it would last til Kunark. Rip Teal

Jungleberry
01-19-2020, 03:41 PM
So many tears.

Lanys-Pewj
01-19-2020, 03:41 PM
Good bye Teal, hello drama...

DMN
01-19-2020, 03:42 PM
Dang - can't help feeling it's a little bit early for that.

No, it's a little bit late, well, actually, it's a lot late. They should have been merged after about 2 weeks.

greenacct
01-19-2020, 03:43 PM
now seal team gets to poop sock 16 hours straight. enjoy pals

FastEddie
01-19-2020, 03:45 PM
Really dumb idea. Talk about over populated once again.

Dolalin
01-19-2020, 03:46 PM
Haha, oh man. This is gonna be fireworks.

Kanuvan
01-19-2020, 03:46 PM
ill take a healthy server with chance of drama over a secluded backwoods server with silent item farmers anyday of the week, finally can level a group dependent class aswell if i choose

Tecmos Deception
01-19-2020, 03:46 PM
Haha, oh man. This is gonna be fireworks.

:D

astuce999
01-19-2020, 03:47 PM
If it comes with a ninja-fix of the ZEM's, there's a slight chance it will just be 90% toxic.

Otherwise I hope it's a troll or my playtime is about to drop by 90-100%.

Astuce

dragonlee66
01-19-2020, 03:47 PM
Hope you got the staff to deal with the show, I'll be watching with popcorn haha

mandosound
01-19-2020, 03:53 PM
Well.. there goes the end of progress. Maybe I will have to go back to messing around on blue or just quit altogether.

HandOfFate
01-19-2020, 03:56 PM
Stupid. I know I will be quitting. We built something special on Teal, now we are back under the boot once again.

Tecmos Deception
01-19-2020, 03:57 PM
You sound like the only reason you're on P99 is because you want the few raid targets and the best handful of camps handed to you on a silver platter or else you won't be able to have a good time.

Shame on you. Your 1999-2001 selves would be disappointed by your lack of adventurous spirit.

zaneosak
01-19-2020, 03:58 PM
sky is falling people should chill. Gonna be great for the economy at least. Sure, you won't be able to bounce to all 4 of your cash camps in lower guk uncontested anymore. Oh well.

kjs86z
01-19-2020, 03:59 PM
/popcorn

consider blue today!

Canelek
01-19-2020, 04:00 PM
Teal was nice while it lasted. Ah well, we are all part of a grand experiment. Failed experiments had left many damaged, but they were once isolated to Red.

Now, chaos.

Zeboim
01-19-2020, 04:00 PM
You sound like the only reason you're on P99 is because you want the few raid targets and the best handful of camps handed to you on a silver platter or else you won't be able to have a good time.

Shame on you. Your 1999-2001 selves would be disappointed by your lack of adventurous spirit.

Fuck that. I'm on P99 because I want to actually play. These servers are already insanely top heavy. There is nowhere near enough content for 300+ level 50s on this server, and everything is about to be a giant poopsock shitshow.

liquidki
01-19-2020, 04:01 PM
Stupid. I know I will be quitting. We built something special on Teal, now we are back under the boot once again.

I thought Teal was always intended as a temporary thing to handle overcrowding of 2000 peak population upon Green's release.

casino777
01-19-2020, 04:02 PM
I thought Teal was always intended as a temporary thing to handle overcrowding of 2000 peak population upon Green's release.

Honestly if it was, it was real stupid of them to allow people to play on both.

KelticKope
01-19-2020, 04:03 PM
I can not seem to find green on the server list. Am I missing something???

Tecmos Deception
01-19-2020, 04:03 PM
Fuck that. I'm on P99 because I want to actually play. These servers are already insanely top heavy. There is nowhere near enough content for 300+ level 50s on this server, and everything is about to be a giant poopsock shitshow.

Alts? Exploring? Helping lowbies? Tradeskills? Factions? Fashionquest?

Like I said, you sound like you're grumpy because you're not being handed exactly what you want, when you want it, how you want it. You're purposely playing a game of limited scope, and purposely picking a small niche of the game ("level 50 content" and raiding, it sounds like)... then being confused when there isn't enough of that to go around.

If you really can't have fun on p99 without everyone's favorite zones being half empty during primetime so you can "actually play," then I mean... good riddance.

Canelek
01-19-2020, 04:03 PM
Honestly if it was, it was real stupid of them to allow people to play on both.

^^^

Spies everywhere! May as well merge Discords now. :P

Jungleberry
01-19-2020, 04:04 PM
I can not seem to find green on the server list. Am I missing something???

It's not up yet.

Baler
01-19-2020, 04:04 PM
Raiding?

https://i.imgur.com/CnyvHzf.gif

Canelek
01-19-2020, 04:05 PM
Alas, our benevolent overlords deemed it so. I am sure it will be fine. Also I am guessing there will be a lot of ragequitting happening to mellow things out a bit.

Evets
01-19-2020, 04:05 PM
rip teal it was fun while it lasted

Baler
01-19-2020, 04:06 PM
ayy who's up next on wooly nets?

Feracitus
01-19-2020, 04:08 PM
how long till green comes back up?! i am leveling here god damnit!

Baler
01-19-2020, 04:10 PM
how long till green comes back up?! i am leveling here god damnit!

We had to wait over 10 years for green and teal... I think you can wait another hour or so.

Tecmos Deception
01-19-2020, 04:10 PM
how long till green comes back up?! i am leveling here god damnit!

Hope you're leveling on guards in erud palace or sharks in the middle of OOT or something. Everywhere else will have a 3-hour-long waiting list for a full group that's killing 3 mobs every 22 minutes, by the sound of the doom and gloom around here.

casino777
01-19-2020, 04:12 PM
Enough people will quit that things will even back out again.

NPC
01-19-2020, 04:12 PM
I was already having issues with crowding 24/7, this is only gonna make it worse.
Nobody groups because you have know what the hell you're doing just to get on this server an get everything running. So most know how solo an work the systems an don't need to group. This isn't gonna help anything, they should have waited till all the rare items where all done an removed, then merge. That would actually make sense, because lot of people here are just here for rares, if they don't get them why would they stay? What would be the point? That's exactly when the population is gonna dip the most. I still can't tell whats been removed so far and what hasn't.

Tecmos Deception
01-19-2020, 04:12 PM
Now I wanna make a guild for alts who exclusively form groups to level up in the zones that are all still 90% empty while everyone else is packing 100 deep in HHK and upper guk and complaining about it.

zaneosak
01-19-2020, 04:13 PM
I'd really love statistics from the Staff about how many people played both servers at the same 2 boxing. It would mean that the joint population is lower than we think but would also mean if someone managed to get two 50s they could have amassed a ridiculous fortune by camping the big cash camps at the same time. I'd love to know if the number of people doing this is like <15% of the teal pop or <1% of the teal pop -- before I panic about economic advantage it would be nice to know how prevalent it was.

Baler
01-19-2020, 04:14 PM
Manastone camp - 120hours in, 3rd position, 6th person playing the character.

Yiblaan
01-19-2020, 04:14 PM
Good the merge will weed out all the crybabies and entitled pricks. Bring on the fun! Level in alternative places!!! Thank you server leadership~

Tecmos Deception
01-19-2020, 04:14 PM
I'd really love statistics from the Staff about how many people played both servers at the same 2 boxing. It would mean that the joint population is lower than we think but would also mean if someone managed to get two 50s they could have amassed a ridiculous fortune by camping the big cash camps at the same time. I'd love to know if the number of people doing this is like <15% of the teal pop or <1% of the teal pop -- before I panic about economic advantage it would be nice to know how prevalent it was.

I bet it's like 5%. I am more hardcore than most and I only managed to get my boxed alts up to like 10 on teal before I got bored of trying to box and just played 1 server and AFKed during med breaks.

Zeboim
01-19-2020, 04:14 PM
Alts? Exploring? Helping lowbies? Tradeskills? Factions? Fashionquest?

Like I said, you sound like you're grumpy because you're not being handed exactly what you want, when you want it, how you want it. You're purposely playing a game of limited scope, and purposely picking a small niche of the game ("level 50 content" and raiding, it sounds like)... then being confused when there isn't enough of that to go around.

If you really can't have fun on p99 without everyone's favorite zones being half empty during primetime so you can "actually play," then I mean... good riddance.

Or maybe I want to be able to play the part of the game I'm actually interested in without 300 people in the zone, because we know classic EQ has such a wealth of content zones. But sure, go ahead and act high and mighty with all that riveting exploring you're gonna do on this great cast mystery of a game.

The one solace of this is that there will probably be enough quitting it might recede down to a reasonable pop limit.

Lordgordon
01-19-2020, 04:15 PM
nooooo my fleet of level 1s with boxes are going to die

Tecmos Deception
01-19-2020, 04:16 PM
Or maybe I want to be able to play the part of the game I'm actually interested in without 300 people in the zone

Like I said, you sound like you're grumpy because you're not being handed exactly what you want, when you want it, how you want it. You're purposely playing a game of limited scope, and purposely picking a small niche of the game ("level 50 content" and raiding, it sounds like)... then being confused when there isn't enough of that to go around.

douglas1999
01-19-2020, 04:19 PM
There are tons of people who play p99 who have never even played everquest before. There are people of all level ranges, and it's super nearsighted to just assume the world is ending because you might have to deal with *other people* in your mmorpg of choice

Jean-Baptiste Cutting
01-19-2020, 04:19 PM
Tecmos nailed it. Hopefully the whiners like Zeboim all quit.

casino777
01-19-2020, 04:20 PM
There are tons of people who play p99 who have never even played everquest before.

Yep, and some of us were real happy to have a second server where a lot of the hyper veterans werent going super try hard.

Octopath
01-19-2020, 04:20 PM
I am sad it happened so soon but one positive:

Ec tunnel will be back up and pumping!

Wrekt
01-19-2020, 04:21 PM
I am sad it happened so soon but one positive:

Ec tunnel will be back up and pumping!

Gross

Baler
01-19-2020, 04:22 PM
*rubs hands together*
My cat er *cough* roommate and I are loaded up and heading to EC Tunnel.

Pinky
01-19-2020, 04:23 PM
WTB Manastone

Taurelind
01-19-2020, 04:24 PM
I have to pee.

Imposter
01-19-2020, 04:24 PM
i hope they wipe it clean.
what was the point of early split? to get more space for people to level up so it could get more crowded at the top so that we could merge back together then?
what sense does this make?

casino777
01-19-2020, 04:26 PM
i hope they wipe it clean.
what was the point of early split? to get more space for people to level up so it could get more crowded at the top so that we could merge back together then?
what sense does this make?

none of it makes sense; the staff have made an incompetent decision and probably had to make due to gm staffing or server costs. No other good reason to merge the servers this soon, or ever. Especially after allowing people to play on both, lol.

Akarn
01-19-2020, 04:26 PM
i hope they wipe it clean.
what was the point of early split? to get more space for people to level up so it could get more crowded at the top so that we could merge back together then?
what sense does this make?

Sounds like server issues, they needed to split the load at the start?

Jubal
01-19-2020, 04:27 PM
i hope they wipe it clean.
what was the point of early split? to get more space for people to level up so it could get more crowded at the top so that we could merge back together then?
what sense does this make?

To double the amount of already too numerous guises and manastones on the server. Makes perfect sense.

Akarn
01-19-2020, 04:27 PM
i hope they wipe it clean.
what was the point of early split? to get more space for people to level up so it could get more crowded at the top so that we could merge back together then?
what sense does this make?

Did you play a rogue on WOW?

zaneosak
01-19-2020, 04:28 PM
i hope they wipe it clean.
what was the point of early split? to get more space for people to level up so it could get more crowded at the top so that we could merge back together then?
what sense does this make?

The top was always gonna be congested heading towards Kunark. Maybe not THIS congested but by the time 6 months hits there is gonna be like 40-50% lvl 50s in the population or at least 50% will have a lvl 50 on their account.

Alot of people just go to the next alt so it wont seem that bad. But yes- lower guk, cazicthule, solb and alike will be crowded as balls.

I dont think they even had a consideration to leave them separate. It just wasn't their vision for the re-launch of classic

Jean-Baptiste Cutting
01-19-2020, 04:28 PM
none of it makes sense; the staff are incompetent and probably had to make the decision due to gm staffing or server costs. No other good reason to merge the servers this soon, or ever. Especially after allowing people to play on both, lol.

I take it you'll be quitting then.

Also doesn't staff bashing get you a ban according to the forum rules.

Zeboim
01-19-2020, 04:31 PM
It's not a question of "not having it handed" - there were 110 people contesting Dragons on Teal last week alone. 40+ in LGuk. Multiply that by two and we've probably upgraded to non-functional.

Also the irony of you guys that bitched about empty lower level zones to cause this complaining about about somebody else not getting what they wanted handed to them.

Hope those Oasis groups are really sweet.

Octopath
01-19-2020, 04:32 PM
So will list be 10+ people instead of 5-7?

Baler
01-19-2020, 04:33 PM
So will list be 10+ people instead of 5-7?

If you don't have 5+ friends to log in for you while you work and sleep. Just forget it.
:o

NPC
01-19-2020, 04:33 PM
What was the average server population in EQ? This is not gonna feel classic if its overcrowded. Classic EQ had multiple severs, so maybe they need to keep multiple servers.

VerdicAysen
01-19-2020, 04:35 PM
It's not a question of "not having it handed" - there were 110 people contesting Dragons on Teal last week alone. 40+ in LGuk. Multiply that by two and we've probably upgraded to non-functional.

Also the irony of you guys that bitched about empty lower level zones to cause this complaining about about somebody else not getting what they wanted handed to them.

Hope those Oasis groups are really sweet.

I mean listen man don't lump me in with everyone else I just started on Teal a week ago. And I was already being told by high level guildies some camps were called out days in advance. That doesn't sound "fun" to me. That's the kinda toxic shit that ruins servers.

Steven01
01-19-2020, 04:35 PM
I mean i kinda think this can be good i know ZEMs are not as good in other zones but SOL B was pretty empty all the time.. just the fGs were being done... there is still a lot of areas to hunt.. and now people will be able to get in grps in other spots..

Octopath
01-19-2020, 04:35 PM
If you don't have 5+ friends to log in for you while you work and sleep. Just forget it.
:o

Yeah that’s what I was thinking... oh well better accept I won’t be owning a rubi bp

Imposter
01-19-2020, 04:35 PM
how do they plan on reconciling accounts with 8 different characters on green and teal?

casino777
01-19-2020, 04:37 PM
I take it you'll be quitting then.

Also doesn't staff bashing get you a ban according to the forum rules.

Yeah man, really enjoyed the idea of competing against 100-150 people for classic dragons, that's not so bad. 300-400? no thanks. If it was a pvp server it might actually be fun, but I would actually like to be able to play the game instead of spending half my time watching others play.

Zeboim
01-19-2020, 04:37 PM
I mean listen man don't lump me in with everyone else I just started on Teal a week ago. And I was already being told by high level guildies some camps were called out days in advance. That doesn't sound "fun" to me. That's the kinda toxic shit that ruins servers.

What, like lower level camps? Or high level farming camps? Poopsock camps are one thing, but there shouldn't be much of that for low level leveling camps.

Dolalin
01-19-2020, 04:38 PM
What was the average server population in EQ? This is not gonna feel classic if its overcrowded. Classic EQ had multiple severs, so maybe they need to keep multiple servers.

Depended on the server, but big ones like Fennin Ro had over 2k (I remember over 3k a few times) in vanilla era:


11/25/99

Im glad im not on Fennin Ro.
I saw 2100 people on it last weekend.
Man thats gotta fucking suck.
I mean its the same thing on my server as well, just not as bad. 1800
is a typical number on Bristlebain evenings.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.games.everquest/OX5fEOGDBHA/8Y7yVFwU-v4J


A merged Green/Teal is still gonna be pretty low-pop for Classic.

zaneosak
01-19-2020, 04:38 PM
It's not a question of "not having it handed" - there were 110 people contesting Dragons on Teal last week alone. 40+ in LGuk. Multiply that by two and we've probably upgraded to non-functional.

Also the irony of you guys that bitched about empty lower level zones to cause this complaining about about somebody else not getting what they wanted handed to them.

Hope those Oasis groups are really sweet.

Sounds like Teal has more people than Green. Even though the Server population counts would dispute that. Seems like guilds will have to work out rotations and share the pixels like we all did back in the day. Back in the day there was healthy competition but often deals were worked out -- this gimme gimme gimme attitude has just seeped into our brains because that's how the world we live in outside of EQ for the last 10 years. Everything is about instant gratification in our society, you're just assuming your precious MMO should follow quit or else you'll throw a tantrum

Zeboim
01-19-2020, 04:41 PM
Sounds like Teal has more people than Green. Even though the Server population counts would dispute that. Seems like guilds will have to work out rotations and share the pixels like we all did back in the day. Back in the day there was healthy competition but often deals were worked out -- this gimme gimme gimme attitude has just seeped into our brains because that's how the world we live in outside of EQ for the last 10 years. Everything is about instant gratification in our society, you're just assuming your precious MMO should follow quit or else you'll throw a tantrum

These servers are extremely top heavy compared to classic so most of what you're saying is completely moot.

Also have you actually met these Seal Team people?

VerdicAysen
01-19-2020, 04:42 PM
What, like lower level camps? Or high level farming camps? Poopsock camps are one thing, but there shouldn't be much of that for low level leveling camps.

That's a gross term. It shouldn't even be a term. The fact it's a term and people consider that normal is incredibly sad.

nosouldance
01-19-2020, 04:42 PM
Anyone have an estimate of when the servers will be back up?

Baler
01-19-2020, 04:42 PM
Anyone have an estimate of when the servers will be back up?

soon

liquidki
01-19-2020, 04:45 PM
Depended on the server, but big ones like Fennin Ro had over 2k (I remember over 3k a few times) in vanilla era:



A merged Green/Teal is still gonna be pretty low-pop for Classic.

This is why a merge makes sense to me, classic population was almost always > 2000 on my server.

In classic days Cazic Thule was a hot zone camped for xp and loot, nowadays on green it's empty except the rubi camps. Sol A is a bit more active on Green but still far below classic utilization. Highpass hold almost never has a gnoll group, and rarely orc groups.

These are off the top of my head.

Tecmos Deception
01-19-2020, 04:47 PM
Depended on the server, but big ones like Fennin Ro had over 2k (I remember over 3k a few times) in vanilla era:



A merged Green/Teal is still gonna be pretty low-pop for Classic.

Nice quote! I always remember saryrn being like 1500-1600 during kunark as one of the smallest servers, but I wasn't around during classic to remember the server select #s then.

Kanuvan
01-19-2020, 04:47 PM
if you wanna raid go to blue, now blue has a reason to exist, green is for being in a full server with lots of people to group with , and blue is if you just wanna wait for batphone and be a tunnel rat

Doktoor
01-19-2020, 04:51 PM
What was the average server population in EQ? This is not gonna feel classic if its overcrowded. Classic EQ had multiple severs, so maybe they need to keep multiple servers.

In the first 1/2 of the year 2000, the lowest populations servers were the Zeks, with usually Vallon Zek being at the bottom, Tallon Zek above it, and Rallos Zek above that, or there were sometimes 1 to 3 servers between TZ and RZ. The population of these servers in the months before Kunark ranged from 600ish range in offtimes to well over 1100-1200 at peak.

During the same time, the top servers, which were most of the older servers, occasionally hit 2000 at peak, but I don't remember any of the top 1/2 of the servers every dropping below 1000 people in offtimes.

The thing was, though, people took forever to level. I didn't play in beta and my first char was a bard (granted, hybrid pentalty and I explored a lot) and it took me months to even get to 30.

I started a druid on Teal on Dec 2 and I'm about to ding 41 and I've done a fair amount of farming. We just know how to play the game better now.

People assist, don't break mezzes, play their classes well - I'm constantly amazed at situations in groups where we survive without a death which would have spelled 6 deaths and a nasty CR in 2000.

So I think comparing 1999-2000 server populations is really a non sequitur.

Nisse
01-19-2020, 04:52 PM
Now I wanna make a guild for alts who exclusively form groups to level up in the zones that are all still 90% empty while everyone else is packing 100 deep in HHK and upper guk and complaining about it.


I would join that guild.

lordpazuzu
01-19-2020, 04:53 PM
What was the average server population in EQ? This is not gonna feel classic if its overcrowded. Classic EQ had multiple severs, so maybe they need to keep multiple servers.

1200-1500 on Karana.

Hyppon
01-19-2020, 04:54 PM
My only complaint is that we did not get advanced warning.

Speaking from Teal: I am a groupmaker. If I'm LFG, I'm putting together groups. The options were very low as a 14-24 level. Many groups would have multiples of the same class. I'm talking 3 shamans, 2 sks, 1 enchanter kind of situations. They were definitely doable but it felt a little ridiculous.

Zeboim
01-19-2020, 04:55 PM
If you guys wanted people filling those 90% empty zones the merge wasn't so much the solution as them reverting to classic ZEMs, but good luck with that.

casino777
01-19-2020, 04:56 PM
In the first 1/2 of the year 2000, the lowest populations servers were the Zeks, with usually Vallon Zek being at the bottom, Tallon Zek above it, and Rallos Zek above that, or there were sometimes 1 to 3 servers between TZ and RZ. The population of these servers in the months before Kunark ranged from 600ish range in offtimes to well over 1100-1200 at peak.

During the same time, the top servers, which were most of the older servers, occasionally hit 2000 at peak, but I don't remember any of the top 1/2 of the servers every dropping below 1000 people in offtimes.

The thing was, though, people took forever to level. I didn't play in beta and my first char was a bard (granted, hybrid pentalty and I explored a lot) and it took me months to even get to 30.

I started a druid on Teal on Dec 2 and I'm about to ding 41 and I've done a fair amount of farming. We just know how to play the game better now.

People assist, don't break mezzes, play their classes well - I'm constantly amazed at situations in groups where we survive without a death which would have spelled 6 deaths and a nasty CR in 2000.

So I think comparing 1999-2000 server populations is really a non sequitur.

Thanks for being reasonable. A 1500-2k person server would be unplayble these days.

Infernoman
01-19-2020, 04:57 PM
I fully support your every decision.:)

Dolalin
01-19-2020, 04:59 PM
If you guys wanted people filling those 90% empty zones the merge wasn't so much the solution as them reverting to classic ZEMs, but good luck with that.

How do you know they haven't? I don't think they'd announce it.

Do some kills in High Keep, you might be surprised/disappointed...

Baler
01-19-2020, 05:00 PM
Runnyeye exp is very good in a group

Wooted
01-19-2020, 05:01 PM
Stupid as hell to do this right now

Zeboim
01-19-2020, 05:01 PM
How do you know they haven't? I don't think they'd announce it.

Do some kills in High Keep, you might be surprised/disappointed...

Oh, I'd love it if it was true.

But I'm not holding my breath on that one.

Yiblaan
01-19-2020, 05:02 PM
I wanna see 2-3k on at a time, keeps things interesting!

Taddharm
01-19-2020, 05:03 PM
So when is this gonna be done? I was mid exp I mean if its gonna be this big a shshow id like to see it and make my decision to leave before i burn the last of my weekend out

Xeddzul
01-19-2020, 05:17 PM
Not sure if I love or hate this decision. I'd reverted to soloing a lot as an enchanter because finding groups outside of Unrest and Guk has been a pain on green.

I'm looking forward to groups running in Sol, CT, MM more often. My one major concern is the number of level 50s that are going to sit around and solo camps that full groups want in dungeons and the drama that will ensue. A lot of max level toons with no raid content leads to them farming valuable items in 30-40 level dungeons.

Looking forward to meeting all you teal folks off the beaten path this evening.

Doktoor
01-19-2020, 05:25 PM
If you guys wanted people filling those 90% empty zones the merge wasn't so much the solution as them reverting to classic ZEMs, but good luck with that.

I agree. The term "Royals group" wasn't even a thing in classic. People leveled where the gear was for the most part. Now people level where the exp is.

HHK ZEM isn't classic. I remember it going in after several expansions because SOE wanted people who were picking up EQ and didn't have all the expansions to be able to group with somebody, thus HHK getting a bump.

Ganjar
01-19-2020, 05:26 PM
You Dirty Dicked Bastards lol.

yeetngreet
01-19-2020, 05:35 PM
Green down again? Wondered why I was hanging forever while zoning

liquidki
01-19-2020, 05:38 PM
Yeah there was a server broadcast that said there was an issue with the merge and to get to a safe place immediately. About a minute later it went down.

Doktoor
01-19-2020, 05:42 PM
I got that shower in

Baler
01-19-2020, 05:42 PM
I got that shower in

all you missed was some naggy drama.
:)

Lordgordon
01-19-2020, 05:44 PM
Baler i got server merge first root net just fyi

Baler
01-19-2020, 05:45 PM
Baler i got server merge first root net just fyi

You want I add you to server first section of the wiki? :)
What happens is there is a rollback :eek:

Yiblaan
01-19-2020, 05:46 PM
Can we call it GREAL instead of GREEN and TEAL... Get it?

Nahilu
01-19-2020, 05:51 PM
Green and Teal mixed ?
Shouldn't be Dark Teal ?

TripSin
01-19-2020, 06:00 PM
Interesting. I think it makes sense in alignment with idea of having a classic experience as this will put population number much closer to how a server actually was in 1999.

I don't know if I'll be playing anymore personally but it has nothing to do with the merger. Was sitting at the priest of najena camp all day yesterday. Sitting there for a pH with an hour long Respawn timer with like a 5% spawn rate or something for an item for a cloak that'll make no noticeable difference at all on my character and I had to ask myself - "why am I doing this? What even is the point?" The only conclusion I could come to was that it's all way too pointless.

lordpazuzu
01-19-2020, 06:11 PM
These servers are extremely top heavy compared to classic so most of what you're saying is completely moot.

Also have you actually met these Seal Team people?

I've been in random groups with Seal Team people lots of times, never had a problem with any of them.

Vexenu
01-19-2020, 06:13 PM
Merged should should be called

GREEN TEA *sIP*

Scratch&Sniff
01-19-2020, 06:39 PM
sucks 1000+ people in classic fuckin lame

Feracitus
01-19-2020, 06:51 PM
So i just tried login in now, and when i get to character screen my character is gone and i get an error message about not having the right spell effects file or something.

Zeboim
01-19-2020, 07:02 PM
Update your game files to the latest from the front page.

Prova
01-19-2020, 07:19 PM
probably just done playing. horrible decision driven by a bunch of troll posts. swell.

TripSin
01-19-2020, 07:21 PM
probably just done playing. horrible decision driven by a bunch of troll posts. swell.

300-700 player servers was NOT classic.

don't like it? ask for a refund.

oh wait.

bye felicia.

Prova
01-19-2020, 07:27 PM
yes I remember 1999 on Rathe with 120+ in Lguk constantly. take your shithead lecturing elsewhere.

casino777
01-19-2020, 07:29 PM
The least classic thing of all is how much people know about this game, and that the population will never be spread out enough through the various level ranges for a server to support more than 300-700. You would think people would have learned with how dumb all the tlp servers were.

Wonkie
01-19-2020, 07:53 PM
never have so many been so mad to play with so many others

Yiblaan
01-19-2020, 08:00 PM
Bunch of entitled 'woke' folk crying about not having everything handed to you. THIS IS EVERQUEST, go to WoW classic if you want your hand held in a nostalgic way.

Skinnah
01-19-2020, 08:27 PM
Who is excited for Server politics?!? 1 guild to rule them all!

Argh
01-19-2020, 08:28 PM
How is 1250 people on during primetime on a weekend overcrowded?

Skinnah
01-19-2020, 08:29 PM
How is 1250 people on during primetime on a weekend overcrowded?

pre kunark with over 360 max levels? uuuuuuh:confused:

Zeboim
01-19-2020, 08:47 PM
How is 1250 people on during primetime on a weekend overcrowded?

Did you see Sol B earlier? Now realize that there were 50+ Kingdom raid level characters that skipped that whole clusterfuck.

ZiggyTheMuss
01-19-2020, 09:08 PM
Breaking News! Whiny bitches are whining and bitching!

Rogean probably has a bucket of popcorn watching this unfold and laughing his ass off.

Prova
01-19-2020, 09:19 PM
Yes 50 in highkeep is classic guys. Trust these guys that started playing in 2013. They're pretty sure of it.

Skinnah
01-19-2020, 09:20 PM
and then there was One guild to rule them all! muwahahahah

Reddraven
01-19-2020, 09:33 PM
Did you see Sol B earlier? Now realize that there were 50+ Kingdom raid level characters that skipped that whole clusterfuck.

Thank you to Kingdom officers for making that call. Well done, intelligent move.

Fawqueue
01-19-2020, 09:51 PM
Is it ironic that the server was split to alleviate congestion at low levels, but by merging it so early...even before we have planar content...we've created a very similar issue but for level 50s? Was the intention to just circle back to the same problem we started with?

casino777
01-19-2020, 10:00 PM
Is it ironic that the server was split to alleviate congestion at low levels, but by merging it so early...even before we have planar content...we've created a very similar issue but for level 50s? Was the intention to just circle back to the same problem we started with?

VP key camps are going to be the most fun anyone has ever had in a video game.

NPC
01-20-2020, 12:10 AM
I wonder if they killed these servers by doing this and not saying anything. It's bad enough they did it, but without warning? I hear some people say people crying can leave, the server may be free, but lots of people invested their precious time in teal with certain expectations. Even though the server is free, time is valuable, my time is valuable, other players time is valuable, especially in game like this. You can't make a change that big without saying anything, messing with 100's if not 1000's of people. Just doing that shows how amateurish this staff is, there is no confidence in there ability to run any servers now. This staff clearly does not respect the players, why stay? I'll go back an play the official servers, at least I know what I'm getting there. I got burned in Ultima Online player run servers years ago, should have known better.

Asteria
01-20-2020, 12:53 AM
Best change ever - Welcome to a more MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER MMO

Asteria
01-20-2020, 12:55 AM
The whiners are playing the wrong genre. :o

Anybody who feels entitled to BiS items and #1 clickies in an MMO, is probably failing in life.

Asteria
01-20-2020, 12:56 AM
Breaking News! Whiny bitches are whining and bitching!

Rogean probably has a bucket of popcorn watching this unfold and laughing his ass off.

WaffleztheAndal
01-20-2020, 12:56 AM
I wonder if they killed these servers by doing this and not saying anything. It's bad enough they did it, but without warning? I hear some people say people crying can leave, the server may be free, but lots of people invested their precious time in teal with certain expectations. Even though the server is free, time is valuable, my time is valuable, other players time is valuable, especially in game like this. You can't make a change that big without saying anything, messing with 100's if not 1000's of people. Just doing that shows how amateurish this staff is, there is no confidence in there ability to run any servers now. This staff clearly does not respect the players, why stay? I'll go back an play the official servers, at least I know what I'm getting there. I got burned in Ultima Online player run servers years ago, should have known better.

Live is where you belong and always where you were going to end up.

wagorf
01-20-2020, 04:28 AM
lol anyone who doesn't see that coming is a dumbass

you are more of an idiot to think patch changes are to be explained ahead of time

lordpazuzu
01-20-2020, 04:29 AM
Yes 50 in highkeep is classic guys. Trust these guys that started playing in 2013. They're pretty sure of it.

There was only 50 people in HK because they haven't figured out that they have to go somewhere else now. Mistmoore was half empty tonight and people were actually turning down invites in the vain hope that they might, somehow, get into a HK group in a few hours.

thesoundofmerk
01-20-2020, 04:35 AM
2k plus players is classic, i was there, this isnt even that bad, its only bad if you wanted legacies, and lets face it, they are not that important of an item. just play the game outside high ZEMS like we did in live.

Zeboim
01-20-2020, 04:57 AM
As long as the Zems are like this, no one will ever leave the exp highway. Sure you wait in line, but when you get into the groups you earn exp so much faster its a net positive.

The exp highway was already loaded to capacity. Now there's just longer lines for those groups. It's not going to kake people branch out, it'll make them quit.

All these people screaming for the merge have always been attacking the symptom not the disease for their problems of not finding low level groups. Unfortunately their howling has also resulted in a giant shitshow for max level too with its now extreme overpopulation.

shuklak
01-20-2020, 05:07 AM
Release velious NOW.

Dolalin
01-20-2020, 05:09 AM
I wonder how long it would take the players to notice HK zem had been changed, if it were changed?

Perhaps that experiment is being run as we speak. :D

Tethler
01-20-2020, 05:23 AM
I'm looking forward to highkeep goblins being 4 camps again like it was back in '99 due to overcrowding.

Jokes aside, it's the creative players that will thrive now. Finding out of the way corners in zones to xp in etc. Nerfing the ZEMs would do wonders to spread people out.

shuklak
01-20-2020, 07:26 AM
Creative meaning "able to play Everquest for 15 hours per day while someone else ensures your survivability."

Rang
01-20-2020, 08:11 AM
Anybody who has BiS items and #1 clickies in an MMO is probably failing in life.

FTFY

Skinnah
01-20-2020, 09:24 AM
Live is where you belong and always where you were going to end up.

you've been here since 2019, who the hell are you talking to?

Littlefrans
01-20-2020, 09:52 AM
I'm just sitting here hoping and Praying this gets rid of some of the toxic players on both servers. Some people I have met have no general respect for other people and talk to people like dogs. Hope they act better in RL than they do in game. On the other hand I have met some of the coolest people in this game so I guess ya take the good with the bad. I also wonder how many petitions are gonna have to be gone through over the coming weeks lol.

Asteria
01-20-2020, 11:54 AM
I'm looking forward to highkeep goblins being 4 camps again like it was back in '99 due to overcrowding.


Woah, with a little more breaks in between combat, people might actually start chatting, RPing, or storytelling again in groups - even with new acquaintances/temporary strangers(OH NOOOOOOO!!)

galach
01-20-2020, 11:57 AM
I'm just sitting here hoping and Praying this gets rid of some of the toxic players on both servers. Some people I have met have no general respect for other people and talk to people like dogs. Hope they act better in RL than they do in game. On the other hand I have met some of the coolest people in this game so I guess ya take the good with the bad. I also wonder how many petitions are gonna have to be gone through over the coming weeks lol.

Please petition people breaking the rules.

Wallicker
01-20-2020, 12:00 PM
Woah, with a little more breaks in between combat, people might actually start chatting, RPing, or storytelling again in groups - even with new acquaintances/temporary strangers(OH NOOOOOOO!!)

Nope people will figure out the minimum # of people required to do camp with little downtime as possible and tell everyone else to get lost so xp is maximized... this is how it really works here lol. This should lead to some of the less popular zones seeing upticks in players though!

Mblake81
01-20-2020, 12:18 PM
I'm just sitting here hoping and Praying this gets rid of some of the toxic players on both servers. Some people I have met have no general respect for other people and talk to people like dogs. Hope they act better in RL than they do in game. On the other hand I have met some of the coolest people in this game so I guess ya take the good with the bad.

Hello, Internet.

Lil ol' me, country boy, who got his cap peeled back with a .50 cal before social media tamed all of this, bringing blandness to every corner so Grandmom and business interests can be safe.
Try clicking on a link for some info and it directs you to a picture of a man spreading his butthole open really wide.

Goatse: A graphic picture of a man stretching his anus extremely wide.
One of the oldest jokes on the internet is to link the picture to internet forums and chatrooms,
renamed to look like something else like "happybunnies.jpg" . Often causes people to freak out.

Gimmie my tampon and move on.

Even this forum used to have trannies posting big black penis on it. It's not my place to agree or disagree with it but I am pointing out that censorship was brought to a place that didn't have it and yet people are still seeking more. This isn't facebook, not everything should be facebook. Mark Zuckerberg is a champion to some... think about that for a minute.

*Note: I did yell at Dinotriz for posting porn here, I have boring business responsibilities that don't take kind to that stuff popping up. I can put anyone on ignore that posts it though, I mainly just wanted to give him shit.

Mblake81
01-20-2020, 12:26 PM
Correction: It's not my place to stop it. I have and will disagree with it as its not my bag.

Mblake81
01-20-2020, 12:31 PM
tr-tr-tr-triple post ost ost ost!


Didn't think that post through well enough. Ignore, it was a rant against censorship in a special place that didn't have it until some dorks moved in next door.

Skinnah
01-20-2020, 12:43 PM
tr-tr-tr-triple post ost ost ost!


Didn't think that post through well enough. Ignore, it was a rant against censorship in a special place that didn't have it until some dorks moved in next door.

Im also guilty of the tr-tr-tr-triple post hahaha :p

Skinnah
01-20-2020, 12:46 PM
I'm looking forward to highkeep goblins being 4 camps again like it was back in '99 due to overcrowding.

Jokes aside, it's the creative players that will thrive now. Finding out of the way corners in zones to xp in etc. Nerfing the ZEMs would do wonders to spread people out.

not just that brother, people are going to be actually grouping with randoms again instead of having a strict click! there will be a lot more interaction between players, should be exciting!

Skinnah
01-20-2020, 12:47 PM
The whiners are playing the wrong genre. :o

Anybody who feels entitled to BiS items and #1 clickies in an MMO, is probably failing in life.

you speaks the truth!

Malikail
01-20-2020, 02:07 PM
not just that brother, people are going to be actually grouping with randoms again instead of having a strict click! there will be a lot more interaction between players, should be exciting!

And that's the problem. Don't want to group with randoms and any action taken to encourage it should be opposed. That's not even a thing worth doing can't understand why you would want it.

Horza
01-20-2020, 02:16 PM
Lil ol' me, country boy, who got his cap peeled back with a .50 cal before social media tamed all of this, bringing blandness to every corner so Grandmom and business interests can be safe.

https://i.imgur.com/0G1PBHd.gif

kjs86z
01-20-2020, 02:18 PM
rnf is going to be great for the next couple of weeks

cd288
01-21-2020, 12:47 AM
As long as the Zems are like this, no one will ever leave the exp highway. Sure you wait in line, but when you get into the groups you earn exp so much faster its a net positive.

The exp highway was already loaded to capacity. Now there's just longer lines for those groups. It's not going to kake people branch out, it'll make them quit.

All these people screaming for the merge have always been attacking the symptom not the disease for their problems of not finding low level groups. Unfortunately their howling has also resulted in a giant shitshow for max level too with its now extreme overpopulation.

Sorry you don’t get instancing or easy exp ZEM highway groups.

You should keep complaining about them closing a server that they pay for that you play on for free

solleks
01-21-2020, 11:22 AM
Get a divorce gain 300 pounds get disability and welfare, get low income apartment, let your body skin melt into your chair, be gender fluid furry , cut off your dick Join the club and start getting best shot items and camps

Hyjalx
01-21-2020, 03:50 PM
Who cares. Not classic anyway.

jackd104
01-21-2020, 05:05 PM
I was really enjoying the lower population and tight-knit community of Teal. All my favorite hunting spots are overcrowded now and the culture is much more rude on Green.

Asteria
01-22-2020, 08:25 AM
I was really enjoying the lower population and tight-knit community of Teal. All my favorite hunting spots are overcrowded now and the culture is much more rude on Green.

You expect to win these pixels with all your bellyaching? Be a man, son.

Aadill
01-22-2020, 11:14 AM
Red is toxic, blue is toxic, green is toxic, my server was perfect.

Okay.

DMN
01-22-2020, 11:23 AM
Red is toxic, blue is toxic, green is toxic, my server was perfect.

Okay.

Were you one of the scammers on teal?

mattydef
01-22-2020, 12:08 PM
Lol

Aadill
01-22-2020, 12:09 PM
Were you one of the scammers on teal?

Nope.

Asteria
01-22-2020, 01:56 PM
Meet me on the highway and kill me 2day.

Cya real soon! :)