don't group with Solemn on green

[Muehler]

this guy will claim need and sell the loot , or ninja the loot, he even trained the manastone camp and got a guy killed.

[Tethler]

No screenshots/video? How am I supposed to be entertained with this?

[shuklak]

I really doubt anyone has the audacity to claim need just to, in fact, greed.

[Swish]

Wouldn't happen on the teal server.

[Tiax]

what a disagreeable sounding character

[Nuggie]

Pretty skimpy post. Need more details. 1 star.

[Hazek]

I get invited to solb group.

Kaelseren <Venerate> replaces 40's cleric with a level 50 guildy (Zubas) so we can apparently farm the bracer for him while he sucks all our exp.

Enchanter still almost dies.

Bracer drops, I roll on it because that's the most fair and i'm not there to farm loot for their level 50 guildy.

I win the bracer, Kaelseren kicks me (was gunna leave anyway), starts spreading rumors.

Enchanter (Digital) tells me they wouldn't let him roll on previous bracers so I sold them to him for 100p.

https://i.imgur.com/n8HOhXQ.png

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345468

[Phaezed-Reality]

We invite you to settle it in the arena.

[Nirgon]

Kaelseren may seek a trial by combat from brother Solemn for resolution given the information I was provided.

Accept or decline, the choice is theirs.

I hope they will be men about this and accept the honor duel, and let this trivial misunderstanding go.

[Horza]

Nice to see that the racist parody guild doesn't discourage their members from stealing items.

[Nirgon]

He won the roll you moron

[Horza]

I read the OP as well, you moron.

[Nirgon]

You're calling my guild racist and you're retarded

Go OD on soymilk

[Nirgon]

There was nothing shown to me about agreed upon loot rules. They obviously already petitioned and didn't get to suspend or ban him because the GMs saw he won the roll.

I am at least offering a trial by combat to resolve the issue. Take a hike Horza cuck.

[Phaezed-Reality]

RMB will be provided to the victor. trial by combat. Its the fairest we can be given the evidence.

[Horza]

This thread needs more African Stereotypes of Odus defending their stellar reputation.

[Wonkie]

posting in a Hazek thread

[Nirgon]

Needs even more of Horza the cuck sticking his nose in it.

Solemn's story checks out btw.

Have I told you that I investigated their claim about how he "ripped one of them off" in EC?

They were taking a very long time and he sold the item to someone who offered higher while he was waiting. More theft!

Horza, you're addicted to (feigned) outrage, creating racial issues where none exist (disgusting) and a soyboy.

[Argh]

NBG isn't a thing and you should never expect it to be how loot will be handled unless your entire group is made up of your friends.

If you win the item why shouldn't you be able to do whatever you want with it?

[Horza]

What's the deal with people who claim racial issues are nonexistent and their obsession with soy milk?

PS: please don't post more interracial porn thanks.

[Nirgon]

What's the deal with people who claim racial issues are nonexistent and their obsession with soy milk?

PS: please don't post more interracial porn thanks.

You're the soy boy you tell me.

Oh, and take it up with staff who didn't ban/suspend Solemn and created my guild because they aren't racial outrage baiting morons like you are.

The elf court has ruled in our favor. Please shut up and virtue signal elsewhere, moron.

[Horza]

It's like the only insults that you're capable of relate to soy milk. How much are they paying you for this viral marketing?

[Phaezed-Reality]

It's like the only insults that you're capable of relate to soy milk. How much are they paying you for this viral marketing?

Maybe if we couldn't smell it oozing out from your male breasts we wouldn't call you soy boy.

[Wonkie]

That's not the angle Horza.

Hazek stole the bracer? What a spineless cuck.

[Horza]

Maybe if we couldn't smell it oozing out from your male breasts we wouldn't call you soy boy.

Your fetish is gross.

[Nisse]

NBG is the preferred loot system of the unsophisticated noob

[Nirgon]

Maybe if we couldn't smell it oozing out from your male breasts we wouldn't call you soy boy.

Rofl

Impossible Whopper boy should take our guild up with the staff WHO CREATED IT FOR US and ruled on the winning roll. Is this Horza guy even in Venerate? Was he even present for all of these happenings?



I wonder what he's compensating for?

The high elf courts of the land have ruled in brother Solemn's favor and given this situation, I too agree. Accept it and move on. This campaign against him will result in reciprocity. The EC tunnel smear I saw from the screenshots is a total joke and I take great offense to all of this

[Hazek]

https://i.imgur.com/jYEQSI6.gif

[Nirgon]

Horza spotted outside Erudin palace: https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/1218706546902749184

[Crevex]

He won the roll and got kicked for looting it? If they agreed to let the lvl 50 cleric have it before hand then that is something different, but that doesn't appear to be the case with the evidence provided. Seems pretty shady on the groups part tbo. The venerate people attempted to take over a pick up group and monopolize the loot for themselves, boot the winner of the item, and them so flame the guy on the forums. Seems pretty scummy.

[Wonkie]

Horza spotted outside Erudin palace: https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/1218706546902749184

anti-SJW video from the guy who peed in his own mouth

that's about right

[Horza]

Horza spotted outside Erudin palace: https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/1218706546902749184

Are you linking me to interracial porn again? I'm scared to click.

[Horza]

Joey Salads Recalls the Time He Peed In His Own Mouth On Camera. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cfwaouJsxU)

That's enough internet for today.

[Nirgon]

yeah who posted/reposted it changes that cringe content

its basically horza lol

[Baler]

This message is hidden because Horza is on your ignore list.
:cool:

[Horza]

Don't worry, he gargled his piss but he didn't swallow it.

[Polycaster]

Nice to see that the racist parody guild doesn't discourage their members from stealing items.


Even in Norrath, 13 do 50.



The high elf courts of the land have ruled in brother Solemn's favor


Everyone knows you can't get no justice in a high elf court.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Don't worry, he gargled his piss but he didn't swallow it.

https://i.imgur.com/kUiD0m8.jpg

[Nirgon]

This message is hidden because Horza is on your ignore list.
:cool:

Miss u

We are doing it big

[Nirgon]

Ur a cuck

[Hazek]

You sure use the word cuck a lot for a seal team bootlicker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVlTe45-dKc

[Wutaan]

Lmao, what a beautiful SJW fail as Horza feigns his anti-racist beliefs only when it suits his objective to slander someone. He accuses the Dark Men of Odus of being black-faced role players, to take advantage of his own subjective stereotype that people of Erudin are thieves. Should have spared a few points for -int bud, may need to re-roll

[Horza]

This thread still needs more backup from the African Stereotypes of Odus, have you posted it on Discord yet?

[Nirgon]

This thread still needs more backup from the African Stereotypes of Odus, have you posted it on Discord yet?

https://i.imgur.com/XtrfVq1.png

[Wonkie]

reddit says the video is fake

imagine being dumber than reddit

[Nirgon]

its definitely how Horza acts, lol

[Zal22]

I get invited to solb group.

Kaelseren <Venerate> replaces 40's cleric with a level 50 guildy (Zubas) so we can apparently farm the bracer for him while he sucks all our exp.

Enchanter still almost dies.

Bracer drops, I roll on it because that's the most fair and i'm not there to farm loot for their level 50 guildy.

I win the bracer, Kaelseren kicks me (was gunna leave anyway), starts spreading rumors.

Enchanter (Digital) tells me they wouldn't let him roll on previous bracers so I sold them to him for 100p.

https://i.imgur.com/n8HOhXQ.png

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345468

Did not read the entire thread. Nordak just put his toon out. Not a person you would want to group with....DMOO apparently dont have a problem with him because they are 90% red scum.

[Horza]

imagine being dumber than reddit

[Wonkie]

Nordak just put his toon out. Not a person you would want to group with....DMOO apparently dont have a problem with him because they are 90% red scum.

[Phaezed-Reality]

itt : people not upset about op, just upset they got denied from guild.

[Nirgon]

https://i.imgur.com/JDsXDhO.jpg

What are you compensating for? :)

Pedocrat much?

[Nirgon]

https://i.imgur.com/woGwqmj.jpg

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/JDsXDhO.jpg


we oppose your 'tism, dork man.

[Hazek]

Did not read the entire thread. Nordak just put his toon out. Not a person you would want to group with....DMOO apparently dont have a problem with him because they are 90% red scum.

That's because i'm not who you think I am. And I wouldn't group with you either scrub.

Why don't you stop hiding behind a fake account when you say things like that.

[Nirgon]

we oppose your 'tism, dork man.

you will try

[Wonkie]

you will try

moving on

Let's be clear here - the dork men are currently harboring a forum villain guilty of sockpuppeting and ragedeleting when highkeep didn't go his way

They're not sending their best

[Nirgon]

what are u talkin about?

Someone was dragging ass on trades and he found a higher buyer - they accused him of stealing.

That tells me most of what I need to know.

Given the context of him not being suspended, I think we're good there too.

Sorry you lost.

The racism accusations are disgusting and unhinged. Seek help.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Nordok
Solemn

Any other toons you have Hazek?

[Hazek]

moving on

Let's be clear here - the dork men are currently harboring a forum villain guilty of sockpuppeting and ragedeleting when highkeep didn't go his way

They're not sending their best

The problem with people like you is that you lie and spread nonsense. One example is that I was in Guk when I decided to quit and it wasn't out of anger. So tell the truth when you talk about me or don't say anything at all.

And its ironic that "Wonkie" is calling other people dorks.

[Hazek]

Nordok
Solemn

Any other toons you have Hazek?

Nah and whats your character names so we know? Don't be a coward now.

[Wonkie]

The problem with people like you is that you lie and spread nonsense.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344861

:)

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Nah and whats your character names so we know? Don't be a coward now.

I don’t play, I just like to poke autists like you with a stick when I’m bored. This shit is entertaining AF. Can’t wait to read about your next in game meltdown!

[Canelek]

An awful lot of 4chan happening in this thread. Way to keep reddit a thing I guess.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

k i'll tell that one too.

So I joined a basement group in HHK. Our puller had accidentally pulled the bottom room twice and we had to train it, then I accidentally did it once later cause I hadn't leveled in basement since live, and rarely did there anyway and didn't know that the bottom wall is kinda wonky and you have to be right up against it for them not to agro. Yet when I did it this noob called Thegirth somehow died cause his dumbass was sitting in the path and later claimed it was rooted, yet blamed it on me and held a grudge even though warriors cant root (actual retard). Later on they invited him to the group and were literally worshiping him for some reason like, "omg Thegirth yayy let me suck your dick we love you". And I could sense his insecure ego from the start because i'm "highly sensitive" to that stuff and I can tell just by how you move your character and the energy you put off, etc. So he was using those tiny dagger shards (which hurt his ego even more cause he looked ridiculous as an ogre with those things lol), while I had my Langseax 2h. Naturally I was holding agro 90% of the time until he'd get a proc once every two fights because my weapons had more DPS. We were also discussing agro mechanics because I noted how the 2h pulls more agro unless the daggers proc (and being nice trying not to hurt anyone's ego or be condescending, just stating the facts.) So I decided since we had two warriors, i'd just let him attack first and get agro and i'd sit in zerker cause it made sense and we'd have more damage and I could land those big crippling blows like I had been doing for 28 levels. But after a few insecure and defensive replies like, "you want me to go full dex." he eventually got super jealous an hour later and snapped and literally offered to pay the sham in our group 100p to let me die (acting like he was joking) while I was still at 2 red bubbles sitting in zerker. First he accidentally kicks the monk, then invites him back. And the next pull he literally runs away from the mob so I get agro and refuses to attack it, then kicks me from the group when i'm low HP so the healer cant target me and I die. Now I should have known better and ran, but my instinct was to trust the healer and keep attacking the mob to get it down, but it was too late cause I was already low. So not really mad about dying, but more that he did that and I was naive, I call him out in OOC and tell people what happened without even being triggered, and some retards start talking shit to me including one of his butt buddies Vaetin. And that I dont like. So then it was just back and forth going downhill from there because some people are just evil and don't care about what is right and they'll just jump on the hate bandwaggon or side with the majority regardless of what actually happened. And I despise those kind of people. But in the end a GM let me camp the right room of basement and I dinged twice. Eventually Thegirth retard finally got it and started using his 2h also lol. And I camped those 2 spawns in the room until they logged so at least they couldn't get them. So. Just don't be a piece of shit and everything will be chill between us. Otherwise you can go to hell. And if we fought in the past then apologize sincerely like people have done and i'll forgive you and forget it. Depending on if I believe you. I don't do people wrong unless they start it. And I argue or say things in group so we can do things more efficiently and get more exp (red players understand this), not to cause drama or any stupid crap like that. Its just being logical.

Just a totally normal and healthy dude here (LOL)

[Wonkie]

the dark men must disavow

[Hazek]

I don’t play, I just like to poke autists like you with a stick when I’m bored. This shit is entertaining AF. Can’t wait to read about your next in game meltdown!

Still waiting on your character name. Stop trying to hide.

[Hazek]

Just a totally normal and healthy dude here (LOL)

Yeah I am because the story was truthful even if I didn't care to divide it into paragraphs. And you're one to talk since you admitted that all you do is troll Lol. Looks like you're the autist. Actually that's an insult to people who are actually autistic because you're far worse. They might actually be decent.

[Hazek]

https://i.imgur.com/MItgI6d.png

Treat me how you want to be treated. Act like a prick and i'll send it right back.

[Asteria]

That's because i'm not who you think I am. And I wouldn't group with you either scrub.

Why don't you stop hiding behind a fake account when you say things like that.

Says autist man-child hiding behind the internet LOL

[silo32]

Nice to see that the racist parody guild doesn't discourage their members from stealing items.


The entire guild is a racist guild from red. Heard one of there clerics Tiffany won a tranix crown as the only non guild member on another guilds raid and sold it the next day for 50k. Birds of a feather.

[Nirgon]

Zero and I mean zero proof of racism from some angry casuals

[Nirgon]

The entire guild is a racist guild from red. Heard one of there clerics Tiffany won a tranix crown as the only non guild member on another guilds raid and sold it the next day for 50k. Birds of a feather.

he traded it within our guild to Solmn

you people are clueless

[Nirgon]

Investigation completed

https://i.imgur.com/VtqloYi.png

https://i.imgur.com/lXmu97r.png

[imsorryGMs]

This post is like getting a pie and finding out it has no filling for you to stick your dick in.

[Tethler]

Investigation completed

https://i.imgur.com/VtqloYi.png


This seems pretty clear. If he won the roll, it's his.

The only wrench in the gears here would be if the entire party agreed to doing NBG or something and he greed rolled after that fact, but we have yet to see any evidence of that.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Waiting for that next juicy Nordok meltdown, we believe in you bruh! *optimistsip*

[Benanov]

The only wrench in the gears here would be if the entire party agreed to doing NBG or something and he greed rolled after that fact, but we have yet to see any evidence of that.

The rules weren't clear when he joined, but they were quoted as NBG. To that end: The item was an upgrade. He is eligible to use the item, he rolled. He won. He looted it. He was using it.

He offered to sell the bracer to one of the people who didn't win the roll for 1k, but that's not breaking the spirit of NBG.

Once you win an item under the loot rules provided, it is yours to do with as you wish.

NBG gates eligibility to roll, not ownership rights in perpetuity.

He sold the bracer to someone who was there because they weren't allowed to roll. He's winner, he can do that.

We've talked to Solmn about some of his finesse in some of the interactions we've seen screenshots for, but honestly given the responses from the peanut gallery and OP here...I'm satisfied that he's not the worst offender.

[Asteria]

The rules weren't clear when he joined, but they were quoted as NBG. To that end: The item was an upgrade. He is eligible to use the item, he rolled. He won. He looted it. He was using it.

He offered to sell the bracer to one of the people who didn't win the roll for 1k, but that's not breaking the spirit of NBG.

Once you win an item under the loot rules provided, it is yours to do with as you wish.

NBG gates eligibility to roll, not ownership rights in perpetuity.

He sold the bracer to someone who was there because they weren't allowed to roll. He's winner, he can do that.

We've talked to Solmn about some of his finesse in some of the interactions we've seen screenshots for, but honestly given the responses from the peanut gallery and OP here...I'm satisfied that he's not the worst offender.

Verdict: Villains quite welcome in DMoO as long as you're not the "Worst of the Worst" :)

[Nirgon]

Sorry you lost in elf court

[PabloEdvardo]

The rules weren't clear when he joined, but they were quoted as NBG. To that end: The item was an upgrade. He is eligible to use the item, he rolled. He won. He looted it. He was using it.

He offered to sell the bracer to one of the people who didn't win the roll for 1k, but that's not breaking the spirit of NBG.

Once you win an item under the loot rules provided, it is yours to do with as you wish.

NBG gates eligibility to roll, not ownership rights in perpetuity.

He sold the bracer to someone who was there because they weren't allowed to roll. He's winner, he can do that.

We've talked to Solmn about some of his finesse in some of the interactions we've seen screenshots for, but honestly given the responses from the peanut gallery and OP here...I'm satisfied that he's not the worst offender.

Color me surprised that the guy spamming every NBG / GBN thread about how awful NBG is, and how much of a fan he is of greed rolling, took an opportunity to need roll and then turn around and sell it.

Dude also has a serious ego problem. Was flaunting his BIS gear when trying to join a group list, and hung around the group for 30 minutes even though he was nowhere near top of list, trying to show off. Then proceeded to beg a group member to move him to the top of the list.

It's pretty obvious who the loot hungry trolls are on the server. Whether you win an item legitimately doesn't matter much if you're still a douchebag.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Color me surprised that the guy spamming every NBG / GBN thread about how awful NBG is, and how much of a fan he is of greed rolling, took an opportunity to need roll and then turn around and sell it.

Dude also has a serious ego problem. Was flaunting his BIS gear when trying to join a group list, and hung around the group for 30 minutes even though he was nowhere near top of list, trying to show off. Then proceeded to beg a group member to move him to the top of the list.

It's pretty obvious who the loot hungry trolls are on the server. Whether you win an item legitimately doesn't matter much if you're still a douchebag.

sounds like you are mad he has bis. i would be too.

[aaezil]

Anyone who says they dont play is one of the 5 boxers on red every day haha

[Wonkie]

this is the biggest scandal in elf history

When will Dark Men disavow?

[Stickyfingers]

The entire guild is a racist guild from red. Heard one of there clerics Tiffany won a tranix crown as the only non guild member on another guilds raid and sold it the next day for 50k. Birds of a feather.

And?

[Bazia]

Stop playing black people in EverQuest Reeeeee!!!

[Bardp1999]

The Dark Men of Odus are server heros. I vote OP should tuck his wiener between his legs and post pics

[Horza]

the dark men must disavow

[Constantyne]

this guy will claim need and sell the loot , or ninja the loot, he even trained the manastone camp and got a guy killed.

I am very disappointed to see this posted. I have all the screens of this situation and discussed it with both Venerate and Solmn. The very deepest charge that can be made here is that Solmn refused to cooperate with the group attempting to force a bracer to Zubas. That is the furthest it can go.

The bracer is ALL/ALL and it has AC/Str/Wis on it. Please list the stat that isn't applicable to a Paladin please?

Further, the accusation we're racist is absurd. That Erudites are superior is not in question. We work with others and help others often. There are a lot of wonderful people who are not Erudites on this server. I try to help everyone I can at every turn. Can you say the same, Kael? Solmn is a good guy and while I don't agree with the tell flames you guys had, in principle he was correct to roll. If he later wants to sell the bracer, that is his choice.

This entire thing is a fight about pixels. Some folks need to get a grip. DMO is a fantastic guild with terrific people who help and serve each other more than any other guild I have been it or am in on this server. Try joining and you will see!

[Horza]

I am very disappointed to see this posted. I have all the screens of this situation and discussed it with both Venerate and Solmn. The very deepest charge that can be made here is that Solmn refused to cooperate with the group attempting to force a bracer to Zubas. That is the furthest it can go.

The bracer is ALL/ALL and it has AC/Str/Wis on it. Please list the stat that isn't applicable to a Paladin please?

Further, the accusation we're racist is absurd. That Erudites are superior is not in question. We work with others and help others often. There are a lot of wonderful people who are not Erudites on this server. I try to help everyone I can at every turn. Can you say the same, Kael? Solmn is a good guy and while I don't agree with the tell flames you guys had, in principle he was correct to roll. If he later wants to sell the bracer, that is his choice.

This entire thing is a fight about pixels. Some folks need to get a grip. DMO is a fantastic guild with terrific people who help and serve each other more than any other guild I have been it or am in on this server. Try joining and you will see!

You making fresh accounts now to defend the reputation of your racist parody guild, Nirgon?

[Constantyne]

You making fresh accounts now to defend the reputation of your racist parody guild, Nirgon?

No dipstick.

I just didn't know how to do my signature. It should be in there now. My name is Archonus if it isn't. I treat everyone with respect and dignity at all times. That is not in question. You however, don't seem to be able to make the same claim. Also, Nirgon has been so good to me. He's been so good to many in our guild and gives selflessly of his time. Glad to call him our GM!

[Hazek]

imagine starting a thread over 100p bracers in 2020

Lol. And the irony is that they sell for 1.2k; I offered to sell them to the cleric for 1k, and ended up giving them to the enchanter for 100p just to be nice. All after winning them fairly with a roll of 97.

[Hazek]

And the T crown was traded to me because I gave her my manastone for a cheap price when I was planning on selling it for over 100k. I could have made double of what I traded it for.

All of the haters are ignorant hypocrites who have no sense of justice or reality.

The Dark Men of Odus are dignified and respected among the higher ranks. To Hell with the Antonican peasants who criticize us.

[Nirgon]

They lost in elf court and forumquest. Their baseless attackd are in the trash where they belong. They have the pixel disease and are attacking us to compensate for their own insecurities and falling short.

Move to resolved.

[Nirgon]

The Dark Men of Odus are server heros. I vote OP should tuck his wiener between his legs and post pics

[Yiblaan]

I am a proud member of Dark Men of Odus, and our Brother Solmn is an upstanding man.

[Benanov]

Color me surprised that the guy spamming every NBG / GBN thread about how awful NBG is, and how much of a fan he is of greed rolling, took an opportunity to need roll and then turn around and sell it.

There's a philosophical debate here about NBG and how it's a social convention that relies on mutual respect and a sense of giving things up now for consideration later - versus greed rolling everything, which rewards people instantly for the work they put in regardless of any actual "use" of the item...but this is the wrong thread for it. I'm not sure there is a "right" thread for it on the p99 forums; any attempts will inevitably end up here, where they will devolve into namecalling and pointless douchebaggery.


Dude also has a serious ego problem. Was flaunting his BIS gear when trying to join a group list, and hung around the group for 30 minutes even though he was nowhere near top of list, trying to show off. Then proceeded to beg a group member to move him to the top of the list.

It's pretty obvious who the loot hungry trolls are on the server. Whether you win an item legitimately doesn't matter much if you're still a douchebag.

Hence my comments about finesse.

Verdict: Villains quite welcome in DMoO as long as you're not the "Worst of the Worst" :)

sighs The lack of appreciation of nuance in social media bleeds into these forums. Yes, even though you were joking.

[Wonkie]

all in good fun fellas, we'll get you next time

see you real soon

[Asteria]

They lost in elf court and forumquest. Their baseless attackd are in the trash where they belong. They have the pixel disease and are attacking us to compensate for their own insecurities and falling short.

Move to resolved.

http://i.imgur.com/kC471hZ.jpg

[Hazek]

http://i.imgur.com/kC471hZ.jpg

Well that's fitting since you're a constipated crackhead.

[Asteria]

Well that's fitting since you're a constipated crackhead.

nirgon the white knight, or is he. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186836)

[Hazek]

nirgon the white knight, or is he. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186836)

Its a legal pill that they give to people for ADHD and I could care less even if he did.

I already know you've done far worse things then he's ever done based on your posts alone. You even admitted that your family hates you and your neighbors are afraid of you. Wonder why. Its because you're a lunatic and worse than the turds in my toilet.

Nirgon is a smart and reasonable dude and I got nothing but respect for him.

[Hazek]

And in the Erudian High Courts we look for proof before making judgements. Its easy to change your avatar and act like someone else. Nor would I care regardless in this case.

[Asteria]

Its a legal pill that they give to people for ADHD and I could care less even if he did.

I already know you've done far worse things then he's ever done based on your posts alone. You even admitted that your family hates you and your neighbors are afraid of you. Wonder why. Its because you're a lunatic and worse than the turds in my toilet.

Nirgon is a smart and reasonable dude and I got nothing but respect for him.

You read it on the internet, it must be true! :o

[Asteria]

Can someone please report Hazek for claiming my parents hate me without any proof?

Imagine thinking a change of your avatar is the same as changing personality.

This weirdo stalked me from RnF to a personal Off-Topic thread the other day: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345978&page=5

Sorry you have an unhealthy obsession with me :(

[Asteria]

taken from: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345978&page=6
Nobody is triggered by your irony. I simply despise you for good reason.

There is no good reason to despise me, sounds like you might actually be the lunatic. ;)

[Hazek]

Most of my neighbors hate or fear me.

My few friends and family don't trust me.

My poop gets really really stuck inside recently.

Stop talkin shit and ask us for forgiveness and maybe we'll forgive you. A sincere sorry goes a long way. Don't fake it either or i'll see right through it.

[Asteria]

Stop talkin shit and ask us for forgiveness and maybe we'll forgive you. A sincere sorry goes a long way. Don't fake it either or i'll see right through it.

Sorry, neighbors does not = parents.

Try not to rush next time :)

[Hazek]

taken from: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345978&page=6


There is no good reason to despise me, sounds like you might actually be the lunatic. ;)

You have a bad memory then.

Mental illness....OP/Hazek's probably never disciplined the little brat....

did YOU make that up you pathetic child-brain incel?

How can he be so bad at EQ, and it's like his life achievement...?

And any quotes of mine are after you said this. Apologize and we're done here either way. Simple.

[Hazek]

Sorry, neighbors does not = parents.

Try not to rush next time :)

Try again, last chance.

[Asteria]

This is what happens when a Hazek/Nordok tries to deal with fairly normal people in EQ:
https://i.imgur.com/oEmQNrB.png

Your forumquesting and Elf Sim dedication must make your parents so proud... *tears up* :)

Sorry I doubted how proud your folks are of your 20 yo Elf sim immersion....

[Hazek]

The Erudian High Council has found that I am innocent due to winning the roll on the item; that Asteria and others are guilty of slander. And this entire thread is silly.

Resolved.

[Nirgon]

More baseless attacks. They should be ashamed of themselves.



Resolved.
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[cd288]

I get invited to solb group.

Kaelseren <Venerate> replaces 40's cleric with a level 50 guildy (Zubas) so we can apparently farm the bracer for him while he sucks all our exp.

Enchanter still almost dies.

Bracer drops, I roll on it because that's the most fair and i'm not there to farm loot for their level 50 guildy.

I win the bracer, Kaelseren kicks me (was gunna leave anyway), starts spreading rumors.

Enchanter (Digital) tells me they wouldn't let him roll on previous bracers so I sold them to him for 100p.

https://i.imgur.com/n8HOhXQ.png

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345468

Dammnnnnn OP got crushed here! lol

Love when people make OPs like this and then the people they're attacking come through with the real evidence and shame the OP. This is the kind of content we need here.

[Asteria]

More baseless attacks. They should be ashamed of themselves.


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Nirgon of DMO and Green99, got so hoity-toity these days.

[Gorantir]

I know I was the cleric asked to rez the guy trained and killed at the manastone camp by Solemn, I dont have logs because I was healing 2 guild groups at Lord & AM.

[Canelek]

Is that the same guy that asked me to tank for his group in 8000 words or more?

[Nirgon]

I know I was the cleric asked to rez the guy trained and killed at the manastone camp by Solemn, I dont have logs because I was healing 2 guild groups at Lord & AM.

so because someone asked you for a res, they proves it was solemn

lol

[Gorantir]

when you get a tell 'can you rez this guy , solemn just trained the manastone camp and got him killed' i think thats enough for me.

[RipVanFish]

More baseless attacks. They should be ashamed of themselves.


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Solemn calling all of Venerate retards was certainly not a class act. Very much beneath the spirit of your guild.

[Canelek]

Lol

[drdrakes]

when you get a tell 'can you rez this guy , solemn just trained the manastone camp and got him killed' i think thats enough for me.

Just to be clear, not sure which train they are taking about but I was not involved in this tidbit and was unaware of it.

[Phaezed-Reality]

he was cleared of all charges of the train(someone else was banned/suspended and he was apologized to), and the ninja looting, move to resolved. And i warn everyone to take with a grain of salt things said on the forums as fact. He is being slandered.

[RipVanFish]

he was cleared of all charges of the train(someone else was banned/suspended and he was apologized to), and the ninja looting, move to resolved. And i warn everyone to take with a grain of salt things said on the forums as fact. He is being slandered.

Innocent or not, calling my entire guild retards and the way he carries on hurling abuse doesn’t paint him or your guild in a positive light. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with your other members, and wouldn’t expect the ones I know to act like that. Ramal, Shaquilleos etc are all class, even when dealing with their detractors and haters.

[cd288]

Innocent or not, calling my entire guild retards and the way he carries on hurling abuse doesn’t paint him or your guild in a positive light. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with your other members, and wouldn’t expect the ones I know to act like that. Ramal, Shaquilleos etc are all class, even when dealing with their detractors and haters.

You're in RnF dude...

[RipVanFish]

You're in RnF dude...

I’m talking about in game interactions.

[Phaezed-Reality]

I’m talking about in game interactions.

can you send me some SS's, i too hold you in high regard. Unfortunately some things have happened to other members that might have brought it on that i won't discuss publicly, however that is no excuse.

[Nirgon]

Innocent or not, calling my entire guild retards and the way he carries on hurling abuse doesn’t paint him or your guild in a positive light. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with your other members, and wouldn’t expect the ones I know to act like that. Ramal, Shaquilleos etc are all class, even when dealing with their detractors and haters.

Was he mad and said that based on a negative experience?

Or does our entire guild think that?

It seems you've held it against all of us, I'm ready for the trial by combat to settle it.

[RipVanFish]

Was he mad and said that based on a negative experience?

Or does our entire guild think that?

It seems you've held it against all of us, I'm ready for the trial by combat to settle it.

Held against him, like I said I’ve otherwise had nothing but good interactions with DMO and think well of your members. I’d only hold his actions against the guild if you condoned that kind of toxicity.

[RipVanFish]

can you send me some SS's, i too hold you in high regard. Unfortunately some things have happened to other members that might have brought it on that i won't discuss publicly, however that is no excuse.

PM’d you, keep on keepin on brother.

Also I’ve got that 44 water pet for you, finally remember lol. Been busy out in OOT on that Dino grind.

[TripSin]

he was cleared of all charges of the train(someone else was banned/suspended and he was apologized to), and the ninja looting, move to resolved. And i warn everyone to take with a grain of salt things said on the forums as fact. He is being slandered.

Well, even if what is being said here is lies, which is quite unfortunate, he's said plenty of stupid shit though on the forums that clearly illustrate his character (more specifically the lack thereof).

[Hazek]

Innocent or not, calling my entire guild retards and the way he carries on hurling abuse doesn’t paint him or your guild in a positive light. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with your other members, and wouldn’t expect the ones I know to act like that. Ramal, Shaquilleos etc are all class, even when dealing with their detractors and haters.

Never called your entire guild retards. There's people from your guild that I still group with and got no problems with as they already know.

What you should do is kick that salty bitch Kaelseren from the guild for lying and starting this BS to begin with.

Not to mention the other cringy thread he made about a Seal Team member.

Then have him apologize cause I don't say nothing unless they start it.

[Hazek]

I even said in discord, "I'm sure there's some good people in Venerate, but every time I come across a moron, they're always in that guild."

And its true.

Rarely do I have problems with people but every time I do they're in Venerate.

Nor have I ever "filed a complaint with the guild leader" because that's what pussies do.

[Hazek]

This thread was resolved from the first page. And this is all you need to know.

Don't talk shit. Don't lie about me. Don't be a douche. And we'll get along fine.

[Nirgon]

I think it was Venerate who decided to take out this one instance with Solmn out on all of us.

Personally, I dont care and I'll do the same. No point in fussing about it any further. If that's how you all feel, fine and we're done with it.

[Argh]

Has Nayrue bought a fucking headset yet? Venerate discord was top 5 worst experiences in EQ for me.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

https://i.imgur.com/oEmQNrB.png

[Horza]

Rarely do I have problems with people but every time I do they're in Venerate.

Nor have I ever "filed a complaint with the guild leader" because that's what pussies do.

:D

[Nirgon]

Horza do you need a Venn diagram?

He says every issue seems to be one of them.

Not that he has a problem with all of them.

You've got a severely rotted brain my friend.

[kaelseren]

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection. ;)

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!

[kaelseren]

Oops forgot #4

[Smellybuttface]

I just read through all the screenshots. Here’s my take on it....

Zubas came because he wanted to “camp bracer.” That doesn’t automatically mean he’s entitled to it.

However, in none of the screenshots do I see the party agree on NBG. It’s only referenced in the shot after Solemn was kicked from the group. I’ll presume it was discussed though, because Solemn states “NBG is literally GBN.” This implies he knew beforehand that NBG was told to the group. This creates a problem for Solemn, because it’s understood what NBG means, and that is that a player “needs” who can actually USE the item (as in wear, as opposed to simply “needing” the money from the item). I understand where he’s coming from since I too agree that any party member who’s present and involved in the kill should have a right to roll on an item that drops (regardless whether they can wear it or not).

That being said, if it WAS discussed prior that it was NBG, Solemn joined the group with the knowledge that it was NBG. Regardless of what his personal feelings are about NBG, he can’t arbitrarily decide to “ignore” that guidance and insert his own definition when it’s convenient for him. Despite whatever is believed to be fair, knowing the group rules beforehand and deciding to stay constructively means that you’ve chosen to abide by them.

All that being said, I think as a practical matter it was presumptuous of Zubas to join the group believing he was ‘entitled’ to the bracer. Absent even a roll, it’s clear he assumes he’ll get it if one drops. Now whats not shown in the screenshots is the roll itself, but I can assume Solemn rolled on the item and subsequently won the roll, which is why he looted. Not necessarily a ninja loot if he won the roll, but also not in keeping with the rules of the group set forth beforehand. Note, though, the party as a whole should agree on the loot rules. Simply because you’re the group leader doesn’t mean you get to unilaterally make the loot rules, especially when that rule only favors one person who you have a connection to (guildmate). Loot rules need to be firmly entrenched. If Solemn made no objection to the NBG rules though when they were told to him, then that’s a tacit consent.

TLDR: NBG is an inherently unfair system to group members that participate being denied the chance at loot, which IS useful monetarily even if they can’t use the items themselves. That being said, if NBG was discussed prior to an item dropping and was understood to be the rule of the group, party members need to abide by it (especially if they choose to remain in the group after learning about the rule, and as long as it’s discussed PRIOR to an item dropping). Solemn choosing to remain in the group after the rule was discussed, and presumably not objecting to it (as he chose to remain in the group), means NBG is established and he’s in the wrong for looting the item. The roll is inconsequential in this regard.

[kaelseren]

Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

[Tecmos Deception]

Who the fuck keeps 1000 silver when they're overweight?

I knew there was something seriously wrong with you right from the beginning.

[kaelseren]

this guy will claim need and sell the loot , or ninja the loot, he even trained the manastone camp and got a guy killed.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

[kaelseren]

I get invited to solb group.

Kaelseren <Venerate> replaces 40's cleric with a level 50 guildy (Zubas) so we can apparently farm the bracer for him while he sucks all our exp.

Enchanter still almost dies.

Bracer drops, I roll on it because that's the most fair and i'm not there to farm loot for their level 50 guildy.

I win the bracer, Kaelseren kicks me (was gunna leave anyway), starts spreading rumors.

Enchanter (Digital) tells me they wouldn't let him roll on previous bracers so I sold them to him for 100p.

https://i.imgur.com/n8HOhXQ.png

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345468

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

[kaelseren]

Kaelseren may seek a trial by combat from brother Solemn for resolution given the information I was provided.

Accept or decline, the choice is theirs.

I hope they will be men about this and accept the honor duel, and let this trivial misunderstanding go.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

[kaelseren]

He won the roll you moron

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

[kaelseren]

There was nothing shown to me about agreed upon loot rules. They obviously already petitioned and didn't get to suspend or ban him because the GMs saw he won the roll.

I am at least offering a trial by combat to resolve the issue. Take a hike Horza cuck.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

[kaelseren]

Needs even more of Horza the cuck sticking his nose in it.

Solemn's story checks out btw.

Have I told you that I investigated their claim about how he "ripped one of them off" in EC?

They were taking a very long time and he sold the item to someone who offered higher while he was waiting. More theft!

Horza, you're addicted to (feigned) outrage, creating racial issues where none exist (disgusting) and a soyboy.

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server ;)

[kaelseren]

He won the roll and got kicked for looting it? If they agreed to let the lvl 50 cleric have it before hand then that is something different, but that doesn't appear to be the case with the evidence provided. Seems pretty shady on the groups part tbo. The venerate people attempted to take over a pick up group and monopolize the loot for themselves, boot the winner of the item, and them so flame the guy on the forums. Seems pretty scummy.

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

[kaelseren]

Ur a cuck

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

[kaelseren]

what are u talkin about?

Someone was dragging ass on trades and he found a higher buyer - they accused him of stealing.

That tells me most of what I need to know.

Given the context of him not being suspended, I think we're good there too.

Sorry you lost.

The racism accusations are disgusting and unhinged. Seek help.

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

[kaelseren]

https://i.imgur.com/MItgI6d.png

Treat me how you want to be treated. Act like a prick and i'll send it right back.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

[Phaezed-Reality]

at this point, im not even joking. I don't want anyone to make any sudden movements and don't look him in the eye.

[kaelseren]

Investigation completed

https://i.imgur.com/VtqloYi.png

https://i.imgur.com/lXmu97r.png

Where is my roll or the other 2 people if this was a greed group? Uhhh, pwned. Like I said before and will say again, you have dog shit for brains. What is even funnier, is that the OP isn't even me. Apparently you're too stupid to even follow that.

As far as the claims of racism, #1 I guess I don't see it #2 Who cares? #3 Why do you keep falling into the progressive trap of ists and isms if you're the bright guy you claim to be? I mean you make amazing rebuttals like cuck and soyboy... Them: "You're a racist"... You: "No you're a soy boy"... Me... ... ... zzzzzz...

Lol. You're an amateur. The right doesn't need you and the left doesn't like you. You seem so alone.

[kaelseren]

Color me surprised that the guy spamming every NBG / GBN thread about how awful NBG is, and how much of a fan he is of greed rolling, took an opportunity to need roll and then turn around and sell it.

Dude also has a serious ego problem. Was flaunting his BIS gear when trying to join a group list, and hung around the group for 30 minutes even though he was nowhere near top of list, trying to show off. Then proceeded to beg a group member to move him to the top of the list.

It's pretty obvious who the loot hungry trolls are on the server. Whether you win an item legitimately doesn't matter much if you're still a douchebag.

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

[kaelseren]

sounds like you are mad he has bis. i would be too.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

[Wonkie]

at this point, im not even joking. I don't want anyone to make any sudden movements and don't look him in the eye.

think of this next time you complain about Horza :)

[Phaezed-Reality]

think of this next time you complain about Horza :)

horza is a fucking saint

[kaelseren]

I am very disappointed to see this posted. I have all the screens of this situation and discussed it with both Venerate and Solmn. The very deepest charge that can be made here is that Solmn refused to cooperate with the group attempting to force a bracer to Zubas. That is the furthest it can go.

The bracer is ALL/ALL and it has AC/Str/Wis on it. Please list the stat that isn't applicable to a Paladin please?

Further, the accusation we're racist is absurd. That Erudites are superior is not in question. We work with others and help others often. There are a lot of wonderful people who are not Erudites on this server. I try to help everyone I can at every turn. Can you say the same, Kael? Solmn is a good guy and while I don't agree with the tell flames you guys had, in principle he was correct to roll. If he later wants to sell the bracer, that is his choice.

This entire thing is a fight about pixels. Some folks need to get a grip. DMO is a fantastic guild with terrific people who help and serve each other more than any other guild I have been it or am in on this server. Try joining and you will see!

Ummmm, wrong and wrong. It is amazing to me that out of all the members of your guild that have posted in this thread that you guys still can't figure out that Muehler is NOT Kaelseren. Therefore, the OP is NOT me. Therefore, the OP, like everyone else, has had yet another shit experience with your guild and especially Solemn.

"In principle", you should have posted the screenshots I EMAILED TO YOU. Why didn't you? Because it shows you to be a massive bullshit artist along with your wanna be alt light guild leader. Tell him to get his hand out of his pants while watching Richard Spencer vids and post the screenshots. You guys are an embarrassment to the esteemed history of trolldom.

[kaelseren]

And the T crown was traded to me because I gave her my manastone for a cheap price when I was planning on selling it for over 100k. I could have made double of what I traded it for.

All of the haters are ignorant hypocrites who have no sense of justice or reality.

The Dark Men of Odus are dignified and respected among the higher ranks. To Hell with the Antonican peasants who criticize us.

Haters, ignorant, hypocrites, soy boys, cucks... Lol, you guys are walking cliches.

[Phaezed-Reality]

https://i.imgur.com/0zUo4Fw.gif

[kaelseren]

Can someone please report Hazek for claiming my parents hate me without any proof?

Imagine thinking a change of your avatar is the same as changing personality.

This weirdo stalked me from RnF to a personal Off-Topic thread the other day: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345978&page=5

Sorry you have an unhealthy obsession with me :(

Welcome to my world, Hazek, aka Solemn, still sends me unsolicited tells in game...

[kaelseren]

Dammnnnnn OP got crushed here! lol

Love when people make OPs like this and then the people they're attacking come through with the real evidence and shame the OP. This is the kind of content we need here.

I'm not the original poster, retard. Daaaaaaaaaaammmnnnnn, this reply got crushed here! lol! Love when people make dog shit brained humans like this and then the people they're attacking come through with the real evidence and shame the OP. This is the kind of content we need here.

Notwithstanding, how someone could make such a conclusive decision on such a paucity of evidence is truly astounding. Mr. Retard, if this was the whole story, where is my roll? Where are 6 rolls in this alleged "greed" group? More importantly, why hasn't Odus posted the ACTUAL screenshots? Their dog shit brained leader slipped that he has them in a previous post... Never fear, I still had some in my sent folder from giving it to them...

[Hazek]

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

neat

[kaelseren]

he was cleared of all charges of the train(someone else was banned/suspended and he was apologized to), and the ninja looting, move to resolved. And i warn everyone to take with a grain of salt things said on the forums as fact. He is being slandered.

Lol, gotta love these clowns and their hypocrisy. Dunning Kruger in effect folks.

"He [Solemn] is being slandered"

"You're a literal retard just like the majority of your guild"-Solemn

Got it...

[kaelseren]

can you send me some SS's, i too hold you in high regard. Unfortunately some things have happened to other members that might have brought it on that i won't discuss publicly, however that is no excuse.

Why do you morons keep acting like you don't already have all the screenshots?

[gundumbwing]

I feel like at this point even the drugs you took are feeling buzz killed. Pack it up and go to bed, son.

[kaelseren]

neat

Did you seriously just go through and copy and paste every post I have made?

You're fucking weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0RPtXMhEW4

[kaelseren]

https://i.imgur.com/0zUo4Fw.gif

Lol, are random clips without any substance supposed to get under people's skins? Fuck for a griefer guild you guys are amateurs. I feel like I am on a progressive facebook site...

Lies, then rebut with some meaningless meme. Rinse wash repeat. Maybe throw in an occasional racist or something, in your case just cuck or soy boy. Rinse wash repeat.

I will say it again, you guys are embarrassing for trolls. My trolling is so epic it is newsworthy and has had me there a number of times.

[kaelseren]

Never called your entire guild retards. There's people from your guild that I still group with and got no problems with as they already know.

What you should do is kick that salty bitch Kaelseren from the guild for lying and starting this BS to begin with.

Not to mention the other cringy thread he made about a Seal Team member.

Then have him apologize cause I don't say nothing unless they start it.

You have so lost the plot dude. From page 1 considering I am not the OP... Anyhow... You're a delusional psychopath so this is for everyone other than you.

"Never called your entire guild retards."

"You're a literal retard just like the majority of your guild"-Solemn.

Ummm, ok. Lol, mind naming the select few that aren't retards to somehow justify what you said? I couldn't give two shits what you have to say about Venerate, in fact I could have plenty to say. However, since there are a few in there that appreciate loyalty, I will respect them. You making such a blanket statement and then lying about it, well, it makes you look like the beefcurtains you truly are.

[Hazek]

majority ≠ entire

https://i.imgur.com/bisGTNg.png

[Hazek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJlNU1flTpo

[Kohedron]

lol @ everyone racing to say hi to the e-girl

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Imagine fighting tooth and nail over a runed mithril bracer in 2020. So much normal in this thread.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

@Kael get your dog and wife prepped for me bitch, I’m coming for that bootyhole.

[Benanov]

Late hit, 5 yards.

And, yes those are the same screenshots I received from Archonus. We saw them.

Wish you put page number markings on them, but at least they're unmodified.

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

What the fuck is going on in here.

[Hazek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpwesfKJ1AI

[kaelseren]

What the fuck is going on in here.

Well basically you have a guild of chronic liars. At the same time they're a griefer guild. So it makes it weird, they grief people and then lie that they didn't. So basically they're a retarded greifer guild who doesn't know that griefers are suppose to brag.

It is really weird. Then they're too stupid to even know who or how to read and original post to know that the subject wasn't me. Yet, within like the first page it is ALL about me. So yeah, a bit confusing, but just standard ramblings of novice trolls. They're disappointing really.

[kaelseren]

What the fuck is going on in here.

In fact, watch a Milo Yiannopoulos video while piss drunk and that's what they're guild leader aspires to be.

Slumn they're super shit for brains guildie that they don't even hang out with in game is sent off to bumble through the world pissing everyone off so the guild officers can come in and promote his dipshittery as someone else's fault. So basically he is the dummy of the group the rest laugh at in these threads. Sadly in the spin that they think they're clever with in trying to use their dummy to pretend it is actually everyone else that is the bumbling retard, they aren't...

That about sum up Odus? Surely that's why you guys never group with Slum.

[kaelseren]

@Kael get your dog and wife prepped for me bitch, I’m coming for that bootyhole.

I think you may need new material.

[Phaezed-Reality]

I think you may need new material.

and you legit need to start taking your lithium dude, and im not even trying to flame you or anything. I am seriously telling you to get back on your meds.

[kaelseren]

and you legit need to start taking your lithium dude, and im not even trying to flame you or anything. I am seriously telling you to get back on your meds.

Like I said, you guys need new material. You rehash and ninja other people's shit for your own. Just like you ninja loots.

I think you're stuck in the 90s where everyone used to say the meds thing. You have to step up your game, to "Seek medical help plz". That's 2020 type shit. But the nuance is that you have to actually base it in reality.

So what I do, is show a screed of butthurt and salty tears and then end with the medical help while he keeps going which proves the medical help. So, there's a ring of truth. That makes it funny.

You guys, especially you, just say things like "Haha, you're a dumb head" and then post a tranny pic for your avatar and then post a unrelated gif and then think you got one over on people.

For a whole guild that focuses on this stuff, I would expect better. You don't seem to be every intellectual and are poor with words. You look like a tranny cosplayer so I;m thinking you're more of a visual type of nonbinary person. You should give up your failed trolling career and become a rodeo clown.

That way you can still play dress up, the bull won't have any idea if it's about to maul a woman or a man so you will have the confusion factor. Best yet, you wont actually have to interact with anything other than visually. I'm sure you would get a lot of support from us on here.

[Hazek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2svUMc8CI

https://i.imgur.com/1E4fauC.jpg

[Smellybuttface]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2svUMc8CI

https://i.imgur.com/1E4fauC.jpg

Image and song link conjure up images of an emo teenager cutting themselves while crying.

[Hazek]

Image and song link conjure up images of an emo teenager cutting themselves while crying.

Interpretation is relative to your personal level.

[Nirgon]

This blew up in their face. Move to resolved.

[gundumbwing]

Am I missing something here?

The Cleric feels he should get a NBG roll because he doesn't want to farm/buy easy/cheap to acquire chipped boned bracelets? Then goes on to make his case by lying about the stats? Both have 4 AC. The visual graphics of plate doesn't make it's 4 AC any better then 4 AC on chain graphics (chipped bone graphic iirc).

Sounds like a clear cut case of someone using the NBG system to benefit themselves/friends/guild.

[Hazek]

Am I missing something here?

The Cleric feels he should get a NBG roll because he doesn't want to farm/buy easy/cheap to acquire chipped boned bracelets? Then goes on to make his case by lying about the stats? Both have 4 AC. The visual graphics of plate doesn't make it's 4 AC any better then 4 AC on chain graphics (chipped bone graphic iirc).

Sounds like a clear cut case of someone using the NBG system to benefit themselves/friends/guild.

That's exactly what it is. Then Kaelseren kicks me from the group because I won the roll and writes pages of paragraphs crying about it lol.

Resolved.

[Jack N]

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

OK, lol, I just ran across this from an actual thread I started elsewhere referring to it. I guess Solemn wants to peg "an alt" account for posing this thread? Nope, not me. I do not have the screenshots anymore, but they are on Venerate's discord for anyone part of that guild; ask them for them. Actually, maybe some are in my email since Archonus of Odus pretended he wanted them, but instead laughably claimed Solmn "needed" the bracer because he was wearing it... Uhhh, that's not what he was saying. He said he was selling it. I think a person's level of intelligence is reflected by what they think is a good argument to others. No Archonus, nobody believes Solmn needed the bracer. Oh and it is just weird for you to tell me you were "inspecting him earlier and saw him wearing it". It's one thing to lie, it is another to lie about something so absurd.

Lol, #1, Solmn was told it was a NBG group if he was going to join. #2 He accepted the invite #3 A bracer dropped #4 He claims GBN and loots it right away while the need person was being told he could have it (The 50 clr that went out of his way to heal since we couln't find anyone else) #4 If it was "GBN", then why did you loot it before I, the group lead, didn't even roll.

Lol, dude you're a clown; and so is at least one of your "officers". After you were kicked for being an asshat (Ninja looting pixels is only accidentally related), you ended up sending me a tirade of butthurt.

In fact, you sent me another screed OUT OF NOWHERE in tells over a week later when I get tells informing me "You're the worst mage on the server" etc etc etc a couple days ago. Uhhh ok. What is weird is that this all is just a reflection of your integrity in real life. Someone has to be really low on the totem pole to ninja on a video game, lie, then obsess about it for weeks. I know you sent me the tell asking if I was mad, are you?

Like the Patchet saga, I'm not mad at all. People that have little to no self esteem don't realize how I couldn't be because THEY would be mad. You can see it in my other thread and how so many responded the way they did. People like you are the one's who get mad. You are so insignificant in RL that you act the way you do in game.

Helping people and more importantly helping people enjoy the game is much more rewarding than stealing shit. Bro, you're petty. Do some introspection.

Now to see if I have the screenshots still in my sent folder. The one from a couple days ago expressing his salty salty tears will have to be posted by someone from Venerate.

Pic 1: Solmn bitching about the only healer we could find. Worse yet he does it open chat to the clr who came as a favor. What a douche. Clr says he simply wants the bracer. Zubas is a good dude, too bad more of the same aren't around. (The screenshot was taken after Solmn was kicked so know that both chat windows aren't reflecting the same times) Half the group didn't have a chance to roll before he loots, even if it was GBN which it wasn't. FFS, I didn't need anything in that entire zone and was still having it NBG and still do to this day anywhere I go.

Pic 2: Clearly a need b4 greed group that Solmn tried to hijack. Gee whiz Archonus, why is Solmn trying to sell it if he "needed" it? I should have saved the screenshots of Dark Men's officer BS excuses.

Pic:3 Backtracking a bit from Sitand who transferred me leader under the wish, which was of the group, to keep it NBG.

Pic 4: The comic reaction of a person actually suffering repercussions. Bahaha, "rolling on items I need" to sell...


Apparently, I am a "literal" retard. Who knows, maybe that's the one thing he got right!

Anyhow, this has been enough of a dose of drama for the day. Enjoy!


Well Mr. Smellybuttface, I appreciate yours being one of the more objective takes, however...

Let me clarify a few matters of contention:

#1 Zubas didn't assume he would get the bracer or feel entitled. He had spoken about it prior and nobody needed it.

#2 You are correct, NBG was discussed before. Solmn responded snarkily by saying "I think you mean GBN". We said no. He said nothing more and kept playing. It seemed a resolved issue and he CHOSE to stay in group. This was when he first joined and the text had long been overwritten in the chat window or I had already spent enough time taking screenshots while I should have been playing. In any event, it is clear as you noticed, that he was well aware of NBG.

#3 Turns out he fucked over a bunch of other guildies earlier that day. He is supposed to be on a no group or res with Venerate. In fact, the day before, he fucked me over in EC. He promised to sell me something and I said I was a bit short on cash. HE started to send tells to everyone in my guild asking them to loan me the cash. Fucking lunatic. You see him in pic #4 admitting it. After a guildie who he didnt even know said he would, AFTER the guy wasted his time making a bank run to get me the cash, Solmn turns around and sells it to someone else because they offered 50 more plat...

#4 NBG isn't "inherently" unfair. As you said, it was agreed upon prior. Is it as advantageous for everyone to participate? No. As I said, I didn't need anything and play NBG. Why NBG normally with me? Because I usually either group with guildies or in group "friends". So, there have been many instances earlier in playing where I benefited more than others in the group with NBG. In a total pickup group of absolute randoms then many times its voted GBN. Whenever I lead a group and enough turnover happens, I call another VOTE. In a tie, the old rule remains. If people want GBN, then we go to that. There is nothing unfair about it. NBG can be more advantageous too. It all depends. Can you argue that in the long run that people can just greed roll everything and sell to get what they need? Sure, but that wasn't the case with THAT group as you noticed.

#5 There is a pic of some rolls. However, as you can see, if things were the way Solmn wanted it before he looted, there would have been 6 rolls, not 3. The only reason there were two others at the time from Solmn is because 1 was Zubas thinking that Solmn needed it so rolled against him. The other, just succumbed to Solmn's demands to roll after knowing he didn't need it, but if I remember right corrected himself after Solmn was kicked.

#6 Solemn is an astronomical fuckhead. Without even mentioning him, I have ran into NUMEROUS occasions of people bitching about him. Then when that happens and anyone sees the guy's name, MORE people jump in. Lol, try an OOC in EC to see if anyone has heard of the guy. The tales will go well beyond his obsession for ninja looting and GBN. He's just an old fashioned unwiped asshole through and through.

So to clarify to all you dopes that think this thread was made by me, I am not Muehler. Lol, I think I just got it. Mule. Clever. Anyhow, not me champs. If I have anything to sell it is with Kael and I auction it ridiculously cheap until it sells right away because I hate selling in EC.

So no, I don't have a mule or a Muehler... Solemn just is a complete fuck head that likes to abuse large colons any chance he gets. He is universally hated and it is amazing, even with such a shit reputation as Odus has, that they keep him around. I can respect a good troll, but this guy is embarrassing.

Well as people can see from my previous screenshots of your incessant butthurt, you didn't appear to "gunna leave anyway".

We were at royals, what bracer drops there that Digital (The enchanter who you conveniently don't have a screenshot complaining about this bracer) needed? I don't see Digital rolling in your own selective screen shot. Oh and btw, your own screenshot shows 2 other group members telling you that you're a dipshit. Man oh man you reach levels of stupidity that I have never thought possible even in a 22 year old bootlegged video game.

You are such a moron or compulsive liar, probably both, that I didn't "replace" a 40's cleric with a 50's guildie. As my screenshots show, Sitand was our 40's cleric WHO WAS THE GROUP LEADER left when Zubas arrived. There were no healers available so Zubas was doing us a favor because he obviously didn't need the exp. He figured the bracer would be SOME reason to be there for other than selflessly healing for us.
Fucking dope. You are 100% selfish so you wouldn't understand.

What is amazing is not that you're a complete moron, but what is amazing is that you are such a profound idiot that you think other people will believe your nonsense. I am shocked you know how to operate a mouse and keyboard.

Ummm, the only misunderstanding is the one you're perpetuating. Your shit grammar leaves it up in the air about "information you were provided". Whose information? Who gave it to you and what did it say? Some people could think that Solemn gave you info that somehow justified his BS. he of course obviously has none since his own screenshot shows him to be the fucktard he is. Definitely says loads for your guild.

More importantly, THIS ISN'T MY THREAD. THIS WAS APPARENTLY STARTED BY YET ANOTHER PERSON YOUR GUILD HAS FUCKED OVER. Why do you guys even pretend like you care? Do I have a manastone? Noooooooope. Has ANYONE ever seen me camp a manastone? Noooooooooope. Would I even want to waste my time camping fucking insane amounts of hours for something that is worthless post Kunark for non porters? Nooooooooooope. Do I go by Muehler or have a Mule (I am assuming that's what his name means)? Noooooope.

Get your shit straight before accusing me of starting this thread. In fact, why don't you fucking idiots post the screenshots that I EMAILED you? Don't worry, I just did...

Oh and yeah, I accept trial by combat by Solemn. Just in real life. That way he can stand behind his and his guild's bullshit. Set it up.

He didn't win the roll you asshat liar. It was an NBG group. Then again, you know this as I emailed you the screenshots. The same ones I just posted in this thread. If he "won the roll" there would have been 6 rolls. Where exactly is my roll? Your guild's bullshit is so easily debunked from your own exhibits.

I swear to be a member of your guild you must have to have the prerequisite of eating a bucket of lead paint chips.

Who petitioned, dipshit? I certainly didn't. I sent you the screenshots that you conveniently didn't post. Whoever the OP is with the manastone thing, who knows if he petitioned.

IN FACT, I told Archonus (an officer of your shit guild-Maybe you're him) that I wasn't going to petition because I wouldn't want to waste a GM's time over petty bullshit a guild should be able to handle. I then handed the matter off to him and Legendarymonk (Venerate) after he wanted me to email him the screenshots which I did. What was done after that I have no idea other than Venerate decided to put Solemn on a do not group or rez list. Being I am no longer in that guild, I don't give two fucks what they do with Solemn. Group and rez to your heart's content.

What I don't like is you saying I started this shit thread that has no screenshots or anything until ******I****** just posted them. If this was me, why the fuck wouldn't I have posted the screenshots YOU admit you got weeks ago? Holy shit you guys all have dogshit for brains. Do you guys actually think you're clever?

Lastly, shouldn't claiming GM's decided something which they didn't be an offense to get banned? Anyone have any input with that?

Well soyboy (Your obsession over soyboy makes you an NPC-Now what?), it is convenient you say his "story checks out" without giving any proof.

Your guildie making a deal, you know a contract to sell something, then harassing others to get the cash, only to sell it to someone else is yes, ripping them off. To get into lawyering, well because I know what I am talking about since I have the same conversations with judges, this would be a standard contract breach, ie ripping someone off.

I am having a hard time really believing you can be this stupid. You HAVE to be trolling people. Sadly, people are having their time wasted due to your guild's bullshit. Trolling is one thing. Going around harassing people you don't even know to get them to lend someone else they don't know is lunacy.

Glad to know that Solemn still loses sleep to still send me random tells informing me that I am "the worst" mage on the server

Huh? What proof? Evidence provided? Won the roll? Where is my roll? A super selective screenshot of 2 people, 1 not even Venerate bitching about the guy in HIS OWN SCREENSHOT is proof to you? Only 2 Venerate were in the group. Monopolize the loot? WTF kind of logic is this? I didn't need any of the loot from royals. WTF, can a mage use? How would NBG benefit me? Maybe, see the screenshots I provided forma. My God... Stay off a jury for all of our sakes.

You are an embarrassing millennial wanna be alt lighter. You're an NPC and don't even know it. Cuck? Soy boy? Even Paul Joseph Watson only made a couple of videos using those 2019 terms. Come on my dude, its the current year. I would guess you have a poster of Ben Shapiro over your bed too. You think you're so edgy, but I GUARANTEE I would put your armchair political regurgitation to shame.

You ridicule leftists, but you argue just like one. Imagine that...

You keep rambling on about not being suspended? Suspended by who? Holy shit dude, I think you have spent too much time watching alt light videos about progressives that you are manufacturing your facts from your feelings... "Facts don't care about your feelings"-Ben Shapiro, patron saint of Odus.

Someone actually mentioned you yesterday... Of course, it was nothing good. I think he actually was bitching about you training or something, it doesn't matter, I get it all confused there is so much bitching about you and I don't even start the conversation.

The thing that stood out is his point that for how much you play, if ANYONE liked you, how the fuck are you not 50? Are you just deleting your toons after nobody will group with you?

Amen. Well said my friend. It still amazes me they argue that this was a greed roll when they show only 3 rolls... Of course the screenshots they HAVE and failed to provide, I posted. It was NBG and he and they know it. I mean if you're going to be a griefer guild, aren't you supposed to brag up your trolling and exploits? Lol, fucking weirdos.

Should I be mad that I am not enough of a dork to know what bis is or that I surely wouldn't be bragging about it? Mr/Mrs reality (Sorry it is hard to tell), come to reality and see that pixels are not important enough to brag about.

I read every word and your claim has been dismissed for gross retardation and scummery. May Law & Odus have mercy on your soul.

[Nirgon]

Kaleseren guild hopped from Venerate to Kingdom btw.

Thank you for your attention to this post.

[Zal22]

I read every word and your claim has been dismissed for gross retardation and scummery. May Law & Odus have mercy on your soul.


You need to be banned for quoting all of those posts in one hit.

[Smellybuttface]

I read every word and your claim has been dismissed for gross retardation and scummery. May Law & Odus have mercy on your soul.

You quoted his post 10 times to make it seem longer. Gross retardation indeed.

[Smellybuttface]

Interpretation is relative to your personal level.

[kaelseren]

This blew up in their face. Move to resolved.

Yet in 100% of your assertions of proof you offer no proof and actually hide the exhibits. Got it chief. You're not very good at this.

OK BOOMER... ;) You're a shitty civ nat. You repeat yourself over and over while calling other people the cucks and soy boys? Self awareness? Where for art thou self awareness?

Lol, again, you think you are some major troll, but you're a broken record regurgitating the same old same old ad nauseum. You're material is weak my dude.

[kaelseren]

and you legit need to start taking your lithium dude, and im not even trying to flame you or anything. I am seriously telling you to get back on your meds.

Glad to see you removed your pic after everyone was saying they couldn't tell if you were a chick or dude. You should embrace your sexuality, not run from it just because people are nice on forum made for not nice people.

For a troll you seem to have very thin skin!

[kaelseren]

Kaleseren guild hopped from Venerate to Kingdom btw.

Thank you for your attention to this post.

Glad to see you have the time to stalk people! I thought you and your other guildies thought "most of Venerate were retards"? Shouldn't you be cheering the move on? Or is Kingdom full of retards too? You change your position more times than I can keep up with my dude! Quite the neurosis ;)

[Horza]

What's a civ nat?

[kaelseren]

Glad to see you removed your pic after everyone was saying they couldn't tell if you were a chick or dude. You should embrace your sexuality, not run from it just because people are nice on forum made for not nice people.

For a troll you seem to have very thin skin!

Let me try that one again, someone was talking to me while I was trying to write that.

You seem to be in a feedback loop over the tired "sick burn" of telling someone to get back on their meds without basing it on any substance. You may as well have just called me a doo doo face. Again my dudes, it's current year; The People demand new material!

On a side note, sad to see you removed your pic after everyone was saying they couldn't tell if you were a chick or dude. You should embrace your sexuality, not run from it just because people aren't nice on a forum made for not nice people.

I expect better trolling from Odus! Copy and pasting the same shit over and over demeans this esteemed forum and makes it seem like we are on a playground. In other words, you guys have been so overwhelmed by me that you have resorted to the infantile response of those like Aids Skrillex and Carl the Cuck.

Your leader is a wanna be alt lighter and it reflects on the rest of you. Kekistan wants you all deported.

[Horza]

nat civ... alt light... Kekistan

What does any of this gibberish mean?

[kaelseren]

What's a civ nat?

Civic nationalist. They are people who take inevitably race based positions while claiming race has nothing to do with anything and that it's all about "the marketplace of ideas".

It is a hypocritical position in nature. They will on one hand complain about illegal immigration because it upsets the host culture while touting we need more legal immigration as long as they assimilate. The premise is based in "white culture" while at the same time ignoring demographic change. It is an incredibly ethnocentric attitude while ironically ignoring demographics.

In a nutshell, they believe that non whites should naturally want to adopt traditional Western culture as if it is universally accepted. Basically they hold a politically correct fascism. So neither side of the political aisle likes them because they're too cowardly to take a position. in reality, they are the current year basic bitch pseudo intellectual centrists.

Another position common with civ nats, because they are just yet more useful idiots controlled by Neo-Conservatives, is the complete double standard between what they feel about the USA vs israel.

Their poster child Ben Shapiro sums up the hypocrisy: Open borders are good for the USA, but bad for israel. Israel thus needs to remain an ethnostate because "diversity" would irreparably change their "culture", while arguing that the same diversity is good for everyone else because it is just a matter of assimilation to host ideology.

Nirgon is a stereotypical American civ nat. He thinks he is clever by giving out dog whistles he learns from YouTube videos of fellow civ nat alt lighters. Sadly, his followers don't even get them. In actuality his unsubtle attempts are unoriginal and embarrassingly transparent to anyone remotely aware of the alt light. Trolling is just not natural to him so he tries to emulate others by fumbling together a patchwork of buzzwords he picks up from Paul Joseph Watson videos. He is simply not in the right field which is why he and the others get stuck in feedback loops of copy and pasting tired memes when people like me hand his ass to him.

The underlying theme of his is ethnonationalism, but he is too much of a politically corrected "cuck" to actually step up. This is why everything he says is gibberish and hypocritical. He only operates within the Overton window, while believing he is edgy. So while claiming everyone else are victims of society's will, he in fact is. His posts are horrendously predicable.

On the same token, he is no different than those claiming "Dark Men of Odus" is some insidious racist trope. First, I would say wtf is "racism" other than a Trotskyesque term to stifle debate? Odus is no more "racist" than the Congressional Black Caucus; on one hand reasonable minds would say that is inherently "racist" and others would just say it is race based. Wtf is the difference?

Lol, whatever the fundamentals of such and ambiguous term as "racist" are, saying that Erudites are "Dark Men" literally from Odus, is just an objective truth, not "racist". How on earth is that "racist" whatever dumb ass definition you attribute? Are Erudites the same color as High Elves? If there is anything fascinating is how Western people can freely accept the idea of race in a video game, but applying it to the real world their heads explode in current year.

The fact is that this guild name is just simply an unimaginative way at being an edge lords, nothing more. They took something profoundly obvious and just named their guild that way. They did nothing different than look around their room, see the first thing, and name their guild that way. It's no more creative than looking around and calling their guild "Computer Monitor". In fact, it is no more creative than calling their guild, "The Guild" (Which I think to actually intellectually troll people like Nirgon is brilliant).

Nirgon is a reject from the alt light and a wanna-be 4 channer. He's a cheap knock off that embarrasses any movement. He stands for nothing which is why he slums around 22 year old bootleg knock off video games trolling people with his failed attempts at psychobabble in a clear cry for attention he didn't receive in his formative years. Why is he so hostile towards millennials? Because he is one and hates himself. He at least has enough sense to know his future is bleak, but is too much of a coward to do anything more than shit post.

Did I miss anything Nirgon? Should we just expect another canned response from you? Have anything substantive to say yet? Prediction based on every one of his other posts: It will be entirely ad hominem and assertions he won't support even a scintilla with evidence.

[Horza]

So basically what you're saying is that you don't think he's racist enough? I just can't see how a xenophobic nationalist is a centrist by any definition of the word.

[kaelseren]

So basically what you're saying is that you don't think he's racist enough? I just can't see how a xenophobic nationalist is a centrist by any definition of the word.

Well I actually said I don't believe in a nonsensical term such as "racist". Since I am forced to succumb to modern parlance, if such a term were to have any credibility or practical use, I would say he is a closet racist.

(Now for what seems like a tangent, but isn't... Reread if you need to)

A centrist is someone who is too cowardly to take an open position. WTF, is a xenophobe anyhow? That term is just as nebulous as "racist". The same people who use both these terms are the same people who promote race based groups such as the NAACP or "safe spaces" or race based admissions etc.

They are the same people that will claim one group moving into an area is colonization, gentrification, stealing, imperialism, etc, but when other groups move into the other's territory that it is diversity, enrichment, multiculturalism, or some other meaningless moral platitude.

They are the same folks that deny only one group to have an identity or self determination while promoting ethnic identity for all others. To them the premise is mixing all colors of paint into one bucket is somehow embracing "diversity" when of course you're left with one color. Multiculturalism is a term that is a contradiction and oxymoron.

If people weren't naturally attracted to things most like themselves, the human race, or any race would never have survived. Muhammad Ali's interview on bluebirds and red birds sums this up in about as elementary way that a child could understand. If not for this base INSTINCT people would have just walked up and tried to bed down with lions. In fact, the very base nature of any species just from the standpoint of procreation we see this as natural. Human beings are unique only because they try to rationalize similarities that don't exist or are willfully blind to ones that do. They are so arrogant that they do everything to disregard instinct or anything that actually makes us human. Apparently in current year, gender isn't even a thing, all the while the same claim that we have limitless genders.

However, we have been infected with a bizarre intellectual pathogen of egalitarianism which seeks to upend nature. They claim to embrace diversity while at the same time incessantly preaching we are all the same; the only consistency is the convenience of the argument. There are a plethora of things beyond "skin color" that make us different. Why is that all of a sudden a bad thing?

I personally kind of like the fact that different people are, well, different. I like to be able to go to France and see the French. If I visit Japan, I want to see Japanese. I like different cultures. However, Western nations, and only Western nations are constantly hit with the nonsense that this isn't ok. People are conditioned to have the response of outrage and censorship if tasked to ponder self preservation. Only one group is taught to self deprecate.

What non Western nations are being forced to open borders and diversify? Cultural Marxism is a very insidious ideology. It is based on the same parasitical methodology as seen in labor unions (Invest nothing but envy the one that did). It serves only to tear down institutions without any intention of investment. We are now being left with a vacuum. We have people seeing other groups being preferred in this bizarre liberal stack that everyone is stuck in this ever expanding oppression Olympics.

It isn't ironic that the same people who promote the pipe dream of communism (supposedly this unified collective), are the same that promote every person to find their own group oppression. FFS, we now have people claiming 100 different genders claiming the next is more oppressed than the last. This is the same old routine of demoralization. Everyone seeking their own identity while claiming the next is oppressing them. I am sure everyone has heard of "divide and conquer", but fail to understand that to effect this strategy those that are being conquered can't notice.

This world has become so batshit crazy that we promote La Raza (The Race) and BLM but a flyer stating "It's ok to be white" is universally condemned and has FBI investigations. "You're not black, you wouldn't understand" is unquestioned, but the world would stop if anyone said the reverse. What has been the totally predicable and intended result? Only one demographic has sky rocketing suicide rates, depression, drug use, etc. Only one demographic isn't even procreating to replacement levels while already a far minority. Only one demographic is being told that they are the sole cause of "global warming", but being told they need MORE immigration.

The demoralization campaign continues with nonsense terms such as "People of Color". Really? So a people that have red, blonde, brunette, black, gray, etc hair and blue, green, brown, hazel, etc eyes and quite the variance in skin tone are not "People of Color", but black hair and brown eyes are? What is so stupid about it is that it clearly a manipulation tactic. Somehow Asians, Hispanics, Blacks, etc are the same while whites are the odd ones out. If anything is "racist", this is patently racist; not only against whites, but at the same time all others by lumping them together. My God, only a defeated people could so easily adopt something that excludes only one group and considers the diversity of all others the same. All the while the people imposing such tripe are telling everyone to be inclusive. We get "love not hate" while the same people are attacking others in the streets. It is a term to Balkanize groups against each other. Divide and conquer.

So, in summation, progressive insanity is one thing and their manipulation of language using terms like "racist" is malicious. They are clear and utter hypocrites which is why they universally accept censorship and do everything to stifle debate; they are children who will break their toys before sharing. They throw temper tantrums when held accountable. This is why at leftist rallies you NEVER see the right showing up to frustrate their right to free speech, but when the right has a rally there is constant violence by the left. It really makes one chuckle at the fucking insanity of the world to maintain one's sanity when watching this all play out. Yeah, communism is awesome guys which is why all you lunatics need to exercise profound levels of violence and murder to impose it every time. Got it.

Oh and when you get your communist utopia in having the state decide how resources are apportioned, kiss your video games and pink hair dye goodbye. The State will find them superfluous and/or subversive. You will get your state imposed "sameness" that has no room for creative endeavors because after all, that would be revolutionary... Which of course makes me chuckle too. The second communists take power (It is inevitable now that progressive ideology has irreparably fractured social cohesion at the same time running the debt to insolvency), they immediately murder those revolutionaries that brought them to power because they rightfully know them to be unhinged lunatics and a threat. They rightfully realize those same people will be looking to put the knife in their backs to overthrow them.

How does this all relate to Nirgon? Well, his ideology, or lack thereof, is a cliched hypocrisy. He will sit and berate the left for shit he does himself. He will whine about being baselessly called racist while playing the same baseless game of ad hominem. He is a shell of a human. The only reason he believes what he does is pure happenstance like most people and religion. They just accidentally believe what they believe because they are told to believe it from the position they were born. He doesn't have any objective or original thought which is why he can't debate anything. The only reason he is a failed alt lighter is because he just happened to have stumbled across some YouTube videos of alt lighters and thought that it sounded edgy and unique. He doesn't actually grasp anything. Integrity is foreign to him. He would be a progressive troll if the wind was blowing that direction the day he ran across Milo Yionnopolous. He is a simpleton who parrots shit. I mean ffs, look at the people attracted to him like Solemn. Solemn and Phazed are clearly invalids, yet he doesn't correct them. He's like a retarded version of Richard Spencer; a cult of retarded personality. He is just a slimy person who oozes into any crevice, but never really taking any form.

Anyone on the right hates people like him because morons like him just get in the way. The left hates people like him, well, because they're not the left. He is alone which is why he revels with his three fan boys on here. It's fucking embarrassing. He would be the guy who would get shanked day one in prison.

[Horza]

WTF, is a xenophobe anyhow? That term is just as nebulous as "racist".

xenophobe: one unduly fearful of what is foreign and especially of people of foreign origin. (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/xenophobe)

[Horza]

I won't lie, far right infighting is fascinating.

[Nirgon]

Update: I'm hearing kaelseren was thrown out of Venerate

[Kohedron]

Now THIS is forumquesting!

[nooblord900]

tl;dr

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/1FT7yXN.png

[axisofebola]

Derpza still begging for the attention mumsy and dadsy never gave.

[Sethius Marlowe]

Can you never do that again, Nirgon

[Wonkie]

Can you never do that again, Nirgon

Quote bombs are a war crime, DMO continues to disappoint :(

[Nirgon]

Can you never do that again, Nirgon

Can't tell me how to rant and flame

[kaelseren]

Can't tell me how to rant and flame

He isn't dipshit. He is actually trying to teach you how. Being a spaz, is well just being a spaz. Learn how to troll you fucking amateur. You would think after over 13,000 (How is it even possible to post that much) attempts at it you would at least understand the fundamentals.