Green economy is so fucking dead.

[DMN]

But i'm sure it's like Elvis and some dumb fucks here believe otherwise.

[Lordgordon]

Good batch of meth this evening?

[Wonkie]

But i'm sure it's like Elvis and some dumb fucks here believe otherwise.

You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time

[DMN]

You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time

You are right from your wolrfd view, wankie. The green economy works infinitely more than you do.

[BurtMacklinFBI]

Another DMN drug induced shit post . Cool

[Izmael]

OP needs to quit using punctuation and capitalization if he wants to have any RnF street cred.

[DMN]

I haven't logged my Ec mule in for awhile. But i did log it in recently during primetime hours. 65 people in ec. Sold my normal stuff I was selling a week or so ago. Nothing for an hour. For shits and giggles I cut all my prices in half and auctioned them for another hour. i got one message ... by someone who couldn't even afford the new half off price. They offered 100pp for a 500pp item.

This is fucking primetime and even the permacamped flippers in the tunnel didn't bite. And half my items are BIS for this time period, so i'm not selling hot garbage here.


only people getting anything accomplished in EC now are multi-account cheaters that can actually afford to be in EC all fucking day.

[Tethler]

I play off-peak hours on Teal and EC is basically nonexistant. 10 minutes will pass with 1 person auctioning their same thing once every 3-4 minutes and 20 AFKs just standing there. I mean, its like 4am or 5am pacific time, but still...

[Tecmos Deception]

Only like 10% of characters are level 50 at any given time, and only like 30% are even 40+. There's a very small group of players who are trying to buy anything besides budget-tier weapons and int/wis gear.

[Tecmos Deception]

I also get the impression that we do actually have a decent number of players who are relatively new to P99 around. They get really fucking butthurt when an item doesn't cost what they think they remember it costing in 1999, or when an item they think isn't that great is out of their price range, etc.

[Danth]

Prices on the new server(s) do seem out of whack, higher in many cases higher than not only on most original servers but also usually higher than the same items were on Blue during the 2009/early 2010 period. Rate of items entering the game also seems low. I suspect the problems could be linked; a higher-than-usual proportion of players might be leveling off cash/plat camps rather than item camps, leading to a somewhat inflated but item-poor economy relative to what might be more usual on a two to three month old setting. This might be Blue's influence being felt since leveling off cash camps was (and is) heavily preferred since the majority of low-level and old-world items were typically obsolescent and unwanted on that server.

Danth

[cd288]

/shrug

I haven't had many issues buying or selling on EC. Granted, it's more during the primetime hours that I've been there, but I've usually been in and out pretty quickly.

At any rate, if you're looking for the type of EC tunnel scene that Blue has (i.e. constantly swamped with people and items and pp flying everywhere every 2 minutes), that takes awhile to get together on a fresh server. Not really a surprise that we're not at that level yet on a fresh server.

[Comoc1]

More items will hit the market when sol ro temple is implemented.

It’s classic, gear pretty much doesn’t mean anything anyway.

Lots of people do not understand supply and demand and do get butt hurt when someone try’s so charge whatever it is they want for an item. It’s economics, eqnomics even.

[Evets]

Wait until saturday to sell your stuff.

[turbosilk]

I'm more interested in playing than sitting in the tunnel selling items to people.

[Aeaolena]

I play off-peak hours on Teal and EC is basically nonexistant. 10 minutes will pass with 1 person auctioning their same thing once every 3-4 minutes and 20 AFKs just standing there. I mean, its like 4am or 5am pacific time, but still...


Off-peak Jewelcrafter here. I haven't been in the tunnel for a while because I'm racing to 46 before Fear comes out.

I can imagine others doing the same.

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

The server is new fellas. It will be awhile before it gets to some semblance of the ec tunnel you know from Blue. Blue started this way as well.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Dear OP,

Have you tried getting good?

Sincerely,
Someone who doesn't have trouble selling items in a 20 year old game

[turbosilk]

Try UberEC??

[Evets]

Also use the forums maybe someone will stroll by your auction on the forums while at work and you can set up a meeting time.

[Canelek]

Consider rehab?

[shuklak]

The lack of plat dupes this time around is taking its toll.

[Rust1d?]

I play off-peak hours on Teal and EC is basically nonexistant. 10 minutes will pass with 1 person auctioning their same thing once every 3-4 minutes and 20 AFKs just standing there. I mean, its like 4am or 5am pacific time, but still...

Yeah Team economy is trash...same people selling the same items every day.

[Siege]

Prices on the new server(s) do seem out of whack, higher in many cases higher than not only on most original servers but also usually higher than the same items were on Blue during the 2009/early 2010 period. Rate of items entering the game also seems low. I suspect the problems could be linked; a higher-than-usual proportion of players might be leveling off cash/plat camps rather than item camps, leading to a somewhat inflated but item-poor economy relative to what might be more usual on a two to three month old setting. This might be Blue's influence being felt since leveling off cash camps was (and is) heavily preferred since the majority of low-level and old-world items were typically obsolescent and unwanted on that server.

Danth

It's a rough economy for anyone who rolled a melee class as their first character, particularly rogue or warrior. They need gear to keep up with naked casters, but they can't solo the camps that drop the gear they need, which puts them at the mercy of item farmers and tunnel fatcats.

[turbosilk]

It's too difficult or challenging to go camp the items I want.

And the items I want aren't being sold in the EC.

If they were sold in EC I doubt want to pay the price out would take to incentivize others to camp the items.

[turbosilk]

It's a rough economy for anyone who rolled a melee class as their first character, particularly rogue or warrior. They need gear to keep up with naked casters, but they can't solo the camps that drop the gear they need, which puts them at the mercy of item farmers and tunnel fatcats.

God forbid they get groups for exp and gear vs solo mentality.

Solo people need to play games designed for solo play vs complaining about not being able to solo everything in MMOs.

[thedonkdonk]

It's a rough economy for anyone who rolled a melee class as their first character, particularly rogue or warrior. They need gear to keep up with naked casters, but they can't solo the camps that drop the gear they need, which puts them at the mercy of item farmers and tunnel fatcats.

Seriously. People want 20k for a SSoY. What warrior is ever gonna have that?

If you can farm 20k in a reasonable amount of time you could also farm a SSoY.

[Hiten]

Also use the forums maybe someone will stroll by your auction on the forums while at work and you can set up a meeting time.

This.

Most of my items are sold via forum posts.

[turbosilk]

Seriously. People want 20k for a SSoY. What warrior is ever gonna have that?

If you can farm 20k in a reasonable amount of time you could also farm a SSoY.

They are selling for less than half that on Teal. 10k is 10 hours of exp and vendoring trash in HHK. Hardly seems like a heavy lift.

And SSOY not a make or break item. There are other cheaper taunt weapons that do just fine until you're of level to camp SSOY.

[thedonkdonk]

10k is 10 hours of exp and vendoring trash in HHK.

I must be doing something wrong 'cause I only get 100pp/hour there.

[Croco]

They are selling for less than half that on Teal. 10k is 10 hours of exp and vendoring trash in HHK. Hardly seems like a heavy lift.

And SSOY not a make or break item. There are other cheaper taunt weapons that do just fine until you're of level to camp SSOY.

It's impossible to make 1k an hour in HK. You could kill everything in the zone on spawn for an entire hour and make nowhere near 1k.

[DMN]

Good luck making good cash in HHK when it's the most camped place on p99.

[turbosilk]

So much mission impossible. I recommend and easier game where everything is handed to you. Check out WoW

[DMN]

So much mission impossible. I recommend and easier game where everything is handed to you. Check out WoW

Shit, kid. i got BIS in every slot and just bought a manastone. And lol at the dumb fuck idea that listing shit in EC is "hard".

[turbosilk]

Shit, kid. i got BIS in every slot and just bought a manastone. And lol at the dumb fuck idea that listing shit in EC is "hard".

Congratulations you won the game. We're all envious of you and you're proving how hard it is to acquire loot and pp.

[tortue]

they banned my account 3 months ago with all my plat, my manastone is my pre-nerf fungus staff for no reasons.

i petitioned 3 months ago and i never got an answer.....

if they do that with all client, u know why the economy on p99 is so fucking dead.

[Mil]

EconomyQuest is pointless. Zerg guilds gonna zerg. Can kill anything in this game with combine weapons and numbers. Just play the game and have fun playing it. Problem solved.

[tortue]

EconomyQuest is pointless. Zerg guilds gonna zerg. Can kill anything in this game with combine weapons and numbers. Just play the game and have fun playing it. Problem solved.

I have fun whten i play with my manastone and my pre-nerf fungus staff.....and also plats to buy what i want.....

[cd288]

It's impossible to make 1k an hour in HK. You could kill everything in the zone on spawn for an entire hour and make nowhere near 1k.

Well that's not true. Everything in the zone? Could def make 1k or very close to it in an hour in HK doing that. But not really a realistic scenario since you'll never get all of HK to yourself lol

[Mil]

I have fun whten i play with my manastone and my pre-nerf fungus staff.....and also plats to buy what i want.....

I'm sure you do. A lot of people get of on exhibitionism.

[Gustoo]

=/ economy is economy. I dunno whats going on on the timeline servers now but most people were just trying to get to max level and to acquire as many DE masks as they could ever desire. With that goal in mind they aren't going to be wasting their time in EC tunnel trying to B/S/T the tradeable items from classic era that will be vendor garbage when Kunark launches.

The reason economy is bad in classic is because we all know exactly how long and what items will remain valuable. Essentially the only things really worth the trouble right now are manastone and DE mask, and russet armor for its brief window. Only one of these items is droppable.

[Gustoo]

Most people are playing from the perspective of a level 60 max level dude which means there is very little to even bother with in classic era on a server like this. If I was playing I would be getting a grip of manastones, and DE masks for alts.

[Baler]

Something, something,.. time to merge teal and green 2020

[shuklak]

Merge teal and red.

[El-Hefe]

Merge blue with Classic WoW.

[derpcake2]

OP should have his sodium levels checked.

Suspension seems in place in order to restore them.

[wagorf]

they banned my account 3 months ago with all my plat, my manastone is my pre-nerf fungus staff for no reasons.

i petitioned 3 months ago and i never got an answer.....

if they do that with all client, u know why the economy on p99 is so fucking dead.

typical delusional foo thinking the economy is impacted because of what happened to HIM alone

the fact is your presence makes no diff whatsoever to p99

[OuterChimp]

WTB Fungi tunic on Teal...PST please send tells.

[jackd104]

Don’t know what you mean. I sell treasures in ec every day. Seems fine. Maybe provide some details or examples instead of shooting off with profanities.

[cd288]

Don’t know what you mean. I sell treasures in ec every day. Seems fine. Maybe provide some details or examples instead of shooting off with profanities.

He's kind of like the Antonio Brown of the P99 forums. He'll have periods of quietness/normalcy and then all the sudden out of nowhere explode on a rant about some random thing

[Wonkie]

He's kind of like the Antonio Brown of the P99 forums. He'll have periods of quietness/normalcy and then all the sudden out of nowhere explode on a rant about some random thing

AB is gonna whip Paul Logan's ass

[DMN]

Don’t know what you mean. I sell treasures in ec every day. Seems fine. Maybe provide some details or examples instead of shooting off with profanities.

But i'm sure it's like Elvis and some dumb fucks here believe otherwise.

[DMN]

Hour and a half and sold one lousy fucking thing 90+ people in EC.. Selling about 16-20 things. This whole stupid fucking server seems to be setup to force people to cheat an use multiple accounts. I'd make more money doing other shit than selling in this shit economy.

[turbosilk]

Hour and a half and sold one lousy fucking thing 90+ people in EC.. Selling about 16-20 things. This whole stupid fucking server seems to be setup to force people to cheat an use multiple accounts. I'd make more money doing other shit than selling in this shit economy.

Like playing the game?

[Tethler]

Hour and a half and sold one lousy fucking thing 90+ people in EC.. Selling about 16-20 things. This whole stupid fucking server seems to be setup to force people to cheat an use multiple accounts. I'd make more money doing other shit than selling in this shit economy.

Then do other shit

[DMN]

Then do other shit

Fuck that. I already farmed this shit to sell. If I know this economy was going to be so shitty I would have done other things.

[Tethler]

Fuck that. I already farmed this shit to sell. If I know this economy was going to be so shitty I would have done other things.

Twink an alt with those items and level it until the economy improves, then sell. At least you can still benefit from your work in the short term.

[Fammaden]

List on board and in discord, bump daily, go about your way.

[Aviann]

AB is gonna whip Paul Logan's ass

Truth.

[Tiax]

is DMN a troll or does he have brain damage

[Tiax]

is DMN a troll or does he have brain damage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgk-lA12FBk

[Horza]

is DMN a troll or does he have brain damage

yes

[DMN]

We got derpza and tiax having conversations with themselves. i guess RNF wouldn't be RNF without degenerate psychotics.

[Tiax]

RNF wouldn't be RNF without degenerate psychotics.

[DMN]

The economy on this server makes no fucking sense. i made like 30k yesterday in about 4-5 hours. Today selling the same exact stuff for exact same prices at the exact same time period I've gone 3 hours and not sold a single thing.

[Asteria]

The economy on this server makes no fucking sense. i made like 30k yesterday in about 4-5 hours. Today selling the same exact stuff for exact same prices at the exact same time period I've gone 3 hours and not sold a single thing.

I feel bad for you, kid.

Reaaaal bad.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

The economy on this server makes no fucking sense. i made like 30k yesterday in about 4-5 hours. Today selling the same exact stuff for exact same prices at the exact same time period I've gone 3 hours and not sold a single thing.

Couldn't this possibly imply what you were selling is presently a low demand object and you just happened to be lucky enough to find the right buyer?

[DMN]

Couldn't this possibly imply what you were selling is presently a low demand object and you just happened to be lucky enough to find the right buyer?

Considering i never even bother logging on an EC mule unless I have 2 backpacks full of different items, nope. Something very strange is going on in the economy. I think the tealtards scared people into not wanting to buy anything for fear of being ripped off.

[Asteria]

My God, you're ridiculous.

[DMN]

I feel bad for you, kid.

Reaaaal bad.



My God, you're ridiculous.

https://i.imgur.com/HOfmp.jpg

[Asteria]

https://i.imgur.com/HOfmp.jpg

I seen sheep with more fight in them.

[Kohedron]

Le classic experience le XD

[DMN]

The economy is fucking dead again. You could sell shit for half off average market price for hours and sell nothing. Why are all these stupid fucks in EC if you aren't there to buy something? No one cares about your shitty planar armor.

[Albanwr]

The economy is fucking dead again. You could sell shit for half off average market price for hours and sell nothing. Why are all these stupid fucks in EC if you aren't there to buy something? No one cares about your shitty planar armor.

I have sold many a pair of GEBs.

[Albanwr]

what are you trying to sell and for how much? Maybe someone here needs it.

[Siege]

The economy is fucking dead again. You could sell shit for half off average market price for hours and sell nothing. Why are all these stupid fucks in EC if you aren't there to buy something? No one cares about your shitty planar armor.
EC is where fat cats play EconomyQuest. Forget trying to sell regular gear that can't be speculated on.

[TomisFeline]

The economy is fucking dead again. You could sell shit for half off average market price for hours and sell nothing. Why are all these stupid fucks in EC if you aren't there to buy something? No one cares about your shitty planar armor.

you get some rnf points for digging up your same old tired thread, and then beating it some more.

[Fragged]

It's not me that's wrong. It's everyone else.

[Smellybuttface]

It seems like half the tunnel just logs on then afk’s. They don’t appear to be doing anything at all. No idea why. Maybe just to show up their dope shitty 2000-era graphic’d rubicite or trash rot PoF armor.

[RipVanFish]

I’ve been selling and getting what I need every time I hit EC. Takes some time though.

Again, the server is still very new compared to Blue. Can we stop beating the same topic to death.

[Kohedron]

8 pages of grass is green? Okay, I guess

[zanderklocke]

Just a thought, but since expansions are "theoretically" going to be coming out much faster, why would someone waste money on items that are going to be replaced easily in just a few months.

Blue had such a bizarre timeline that you really couldn't predict how long it would be before something could easily be upgraded.

[derpcake2]

If you can't farm FBSS / mith 2h and such, you'd be an idiot to buy them.

The items just aren't strong enough to warrant current prices, market saturation is going to drive prices down since shit is permacamped, and come kunark a mith 2h is going to go to the 2k price range in 14 days.

These items don't enable any class to do anything special, its not like an FBSS on a warrior is going to let you solo significantly stronger stuff, so unless you are an elitist you can easily do without.

Elitists don't understand this, of course.

[derpcake2]

Oh and this was my bard, I think I quit raiding in 2010.

https://eq.magelo.com/profile/1428900

Holding the only pair of sorrowsong boots still.

[Bhairava]

how does anyone even have 20,000 platinums pieces to buy a hunk of shit like a ssoy

dpo u guys just farm garbage 24/7 on green?? is green dominated by no-life druggies and losers?????? whattt?????

whaaaaa

[derpcake2]

how does anyone even have 20,000 platinums pieces to buy a hunk of shit like a ssoy

dpo u guys just farm garbage 24/7 on green?? is green dominated by no-life druggies and losers?????? whattt?????

whaaaaa

Killing HHK guards at 5.5 plat average drop, one every 3 minutes, it takes 2 hours a day for 10 days to farm 20k.

[Bhairava]

Killing HHK guards at 5.5 plat average drop, one every 3 minutes, it takes 2 hours a day for 10 days to farm 20k.

but why

[DMN]

If you can't farm FBSS / mith 2h and such, you'd be an idiot to buy them.

The items just aren't strong enough to warrant current prices, market saturation is going to drive prices down since shit is permacamped, and come kunark a mith 2h is going to go to the 2k price range in 14 days.

These items don't enable any class to do anything special, its not like an FBSS on a warrior is going to let you solo significantly stronger stuff, so unless you are an elitist you can easily do without.

Elitists don't understand this, of course.

What a stupid fucking post. You literally picked the worst examples possible. You picked two items that have a huge fucking affect of your characters performance. And do tell us what plat collecting dust in your bank does for your character?

[derpcake2]

a huge fucking affect

obviously smart

anyway, enjoy the meth

[derpcake2]

how about you try writing two sentences without your stupidity shining like a pile of plat

i'd give kudos

[Nirgon]

What a stupid fucking post. You literally picked the worst examples possible. You picked two items that have a huge fucking affect of your characters performance. And do tell us what plat collecting dust in your bank does for your character?

Don't buy a best in slot weapon to be competitive in the current raid scene guys

[Castle2.0]

Killing HHK guards at 5.5 plat average drop, one every 3 minutes, it takes 2 hours a day for 10 days to farm 20k. You missed a zero.

5.5 every 3 minutes is 110pp/hour. 110pp/hour at 2 hours per day over 10 days is 2,200pp.

Either you do 20 hours/day or you do 100 days.

[DMN]

obviously smart

anyway, enjoy the meth

Only in RNF can you get a grammar lesson for someone who filed 1st grade arithmetic.

[Horza]

Only in RNF can you get a grammar lesson for someone who filed 1st grade arithmetic.

[DMN]

Unreal how shit the economy is.

I spent 4 hours last night in EC all during prime-time hours, 120-135 people in EC the entire time. I sold one item for 350 plat. I'm auctioning around 25 items in total, half of which are BIS and the rest are similarly quality items.

I can easily make 500-600 plat just killing guards per hour. The item they bought would take an average of 2 and a half hours to camp.

So 6.5 hours total invested in that 1 item. If you do the math , I lost 3000 fucking plat by selling an item in EC.

What in the fuck is up with this stupid ass server's economy? I thought it couldn't get any worse .

[magnetaress]

what I don't understand about live servers is how items default to old school live prices

I see that normalizing after a year, but at a month in some items should be mega rare like gbs and be selling more like 15k

[Hazek]

Unreal how shit the economy is.

I spent 4 hours last night in EC all during prime-time hours, 120-135 people in EC the entire time. I sold one item for 350 plat. I'm auctioning around 25 items in total, half of which are BIS and the rest are similarly quality items.

I can easily make 500-600 plat just killing guards per hour. The item they bought would take an average of 2 and a half hours to camp.

So 6.5 hours total invested in that 1 item. If you do the math , I lost 3000 fucking plat by selling an item in EC.

What in the fuck is up with this stupid ass server's economy? I thought it couldn't get any worse .

Maybe they're overpriced? Whats some higher end items you were trying to sell, and for how much?

[Albanwr]

Unreal how shit the economy is.

I spent 4 hours last night in EC all during prime-time hours, 120-135 people in EC the entire time. I sold one item for 350 plat. I'm auctioning around 25 items in total, half of which are BIS and the rest are similarly quality items.

I can easily make 500-600 plat just killing guards per hour. The item they bought would take an average of 2 and a half hours to camp.

So 6.5 hours total invested in that 1 item. If you do the math , I lost 3000 fucking plat by selling an item in EC.

What in the fuck is up with this stupid ass server's economy? I thought it couldn't get any worse .

Because people know you don't need close to BiS items to play in Classic. You don't even need second or third BiS.

Classic is a good time to just hunt small item drops to sell to the vendor. Collect plat.

The items people want and are selling well are things like GEBs - 9k all day every day.

[Videri]

Just a thought, but since expansions are "theoretically" going to be coming out much faster, why would someone waste money on items that are going to be replaced easily in just a few months.

A good point.

Another idea I had: now, more than perhaps ever before, there are tons of players on Green99 who know the game inside and out. They know what classes they want to play, where to hunt, what items to use, etc...and they have big plans of farming certain items to sell in EC.

So there we all are...farming the same items...and trying to sell them to each other. Perhaps the ratio of farmer/sellers to buyers is too high.

Who can farm 3k that can't farm a [name of 3k item here]?
Who can farm 20k that can't farm a [name of 20k item here]?