Name & Shame - Pamila - Seal Team - Green

[Mignart]

Location: Lower Guk - Assasin Supplier Camp
Who: Just me (Mignart), Pamila and an Ogre Shaman named Brunhilda (there a whole other story attached to this guy, see below*)

For about 2 hours we are at this camp, duo, in group rolling through PH's. And then a Supplier pops, which is instantly looted by Pamila for a Thick Banded Belt.

Here ensues the following chat screenshots of why Pamila deemed it not necessary to roll for the item. Please make some popcorn and enjoy the absolute logic roller-coaster brought on by this guy. If anyone has some insights as to this entitled personality, please let's have open the discussion here:

1) The loot and initial ask why we are not rolling: https://imgur.com/a/doCAirK
2) The then series of illogical explanations why he does not need to roll - https://imgur.com/a/A2FWgAx

I want to make it very clear, that I could give a flying fuck about the TBB. It's the fact that this guy's behavior is deemed okay? Messaged a few of the Seal Team officers with no response (surprise?).

* Brunhilda Story - he joined the camp at list # 3 and asked for invite. Pamila refused to invite him as he/she "is not here to power level others". Please to make it clear, we were only killing the 3 mobs in camp. Every 28 minutes... Class act right?

Lets hear it - what does everyone think?

[Politiko]

Person is very unreasonable. Will add to my notes as a person to avoid. If I was a leader of Seal Team I’d boot people like this quick.

[Ashenden]

Grats Bladefrenzy

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

Pretty cut and dry. Pamila added to no-rez list.

[Fammaden]

Pamila refused to invite him as he/she "is not here to power level others". Please to make it clear, we were only killing the 3 mobs in camp. Every 28 minutes... Class act right?

I like this part better, I can at least understand feeling greedy about the belt, I don't know what the fuck kind of person thinks like this. Holy shit the guy's sharing xp on three fucking high thirties mobs? Alert the freeloader police, we got a despicable power level mooch here!

[Darkfuneral]

I like <Seal Team>

[Mignart]

I like this part better, I can at least understand feeling greedy about the belt, I don't know what the fuck kind of person thinks like this. Holy shit the guy's sharing xp on three fucking high thirties mobs? Alert the freeloader police, we got a despicable power level mooch here!

Figure'd it was another perfect illustration of this guy's character.

[hannahgrams]

promoted to seal team officer

[indiscriminate_hater]

straight shooter, upper management, etc.

[Ravage]

Executive decision. Looks familiar. Grats Pamfrenzy.

[Phatez]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Pamila was a trial in the guild for only two days. He has been removed. Goodluck with your petition.

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Pamila was a trial in the guild for only two days. He has been removed. Goodluck with your petition.

This guy deserves way more credit than he gets from some of you people.

[Wonkie]

Can't see your pics but if it's not about the loot is it just some insane respect psychodrama you people inflict on each other?

[turbosilk]

Resolution on ss too low to zoom in and read text.

[Mignart]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Pamila was a trial in the guild for only two days. He has been removed. Goodluck with your petition.

Cheers. Good to see and respect.

[GuiltyLight]

Oh right, this person. Made lots of drama trying to move in on people's dwarf camps in BB. Not surprised they pulled worse.

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

Wonder which guild he will seek membership in next, and if he will be accepted lol.

[gkmarino]

Thick Brute Brain

[Haynar]

Harsh

[Nisse]

rofl

[WaffleztheAndal]

Pamila being blacklisted by guilds, put on no-rez lists, good stuff.

Glad to see some assholes get what's coming to them.

[cd288]

High quality post OP

Pamila is an idiot

[White_knight]

Why as a Bard are you in the que for a mask that you can use post nerf, i.e. why waste all that time camping it?

Just to clicky from inv?


P.s. Pamila is a penis.

[White_knight]

Why as a Bard are you in the que for a mask that you can use post nerf, i.e. why waste all that time camping it?

Just to clicky from inv?


P.s. Pamila is a penis.

I mean why waste all that time in ques now.

[Bardp1999]

I honestly don't understand the level of retardation that occurs in this game. I camped the Rubi legs and helm area in CT with my ranger pal Griff for like 14 hours and we got a couple of bracers, a helm, and 1 pair of legs. I won the first bracer and the helm, so when the legs drop I didn't even roll I said he could have them. Be nice to people for the love of Christ.

That piece of shit cleric Silverscorn who ninja'd a Sharlok pack from my group like 5 days after launce still gives me a rage boner of hatred.

PRAS to Phatez for shunning Pamfrenzy

[Madbad]

bitch best reroll

[Albanwr]

Does joining Seal Team make nice guys turn into complete idiots? Pamila is a cool dude...until he joined Seal Team.

Come on, man.

[Mignart]

I mean why waste all that time in ques now.

To be honest, I did a who all gukbuttom and there 1 person at he camp, figured it was far better than the normal 4-5 so couldnt be that bad. But yes, I agree that it makes more sense to wait till after nerf.

[GuiltyLight]

Does joining Seal Team make nice guys turn into complete idiots? Pamila is a cool dude...until he joined Seal Team.

Come on, man.

The only times I saw them, they were being a huge asshole, stealing camps and trying to cite non existent rules. That was a couple weeks ago at least. They weren't in ST then.

[TripSin]

I honestly don't understand the level of retardation that occurs in this game.

Really? I feel like I would personally be pretty surprised (though pleasantly) if there weren't a good number of maladjusted, selfish, autistic, and intellectually-challenged amongst the grown ass men playing an emulator of a 21-year-old MMORPG. Especially the ones who take this game way too seriously and put way too much time into it (myself included).

[Darkfuneral]

It's called not going to college

[greenspectre]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Pamila was a trial in the guild for only two days. He has been removed. Goodluck with your petition.

Glad to see this. From what I gather, Seal Team is controversial (top guild on server always is tbh). I've seen several posts about their rules within the guild itself, but it's good to see the leader responding swiftly to something as cut-and-dry as ninja looting. Solid common sense decision Phatez.

[Daloon]

Imagine throwing away your P99 cred for a thick banded belt. Only option is to pretty much reroll.

[Ravage]

This raises up some real questions about similar issues with list camps. I have personally seen 2 players in CT saying they were camping boots while grouped with people clearing the AoF. They are on the list but claiming boots. Pretty weird camp dichotemy compared to Ass/Sup. People know if TBB drops it's getting rolled by all present most likely. What makes boots so special?

[Grimgor]

This raises up some real questions about similar issues with list camps. I have personally seen 2 players in CT saying they were camping boots while grouped with people clearing the AoF. They are on the list but claiming boots. Pretty weird camp dichotemy compared to Ass/Sup. People know if TBB drops it's getting rolled by all present most likely. What makes boots so special?

If you're farming multiple named mobs, then someone can show up and ask that you choose one to keep and take the other. Some groups try to avoid this by having one person in the group respond to camp checks for one mob and another person respond for the other named to make it appear as though they're camped by separate people to anyone too lazy to go check in person.

[Grimgor]

Which actually brings up an interesting question. If it weren't for the /list camp, then someone could make you choose one and take the other. How does it work when one of the camps is a list camp?

Can you claim Cenobite while on the list for AoF? Or can someone just show up when a group is camping AoF and claim Cenobite?

[Draulius]

He made the executive decision.

[thedonkdonk]

Can you claim Cenobite while on the list for AoF? Or can someone just show up when a group is camping AoF and claim Cenobite?

I had a guy roll up. Said he was just here for boots. So I said "join the /list group and roll". The next spawn was Cenobite. Dude won the roll and left. I'd lost the previous 5 or so. I was a bit salty (to myself) but he followed "the process" so no I really couldn't hold it against him.

He communicated. I did the same. I don't see how this is so hard for people.

[cd288]

Would be good to see a staff member confirm if this guy was banned or suspended. Would send a message to anyone else considering doing something similar if they saw confirmation that there was an impact beyond just being removed from your guild.

[aaezil]

Straight shooter with upper seal team management written all over him

[BurtMacklinFBI]

Straight shooter with upper seal team management written all over him

He got kicked you retard . Literally posted in this very thread

[aaezil]

He got kicked you retard . Literally posted in this very thread

^ triggered nerd

[Polycaster]

Which actually brings up an interesting question. If it weren't for the /list camp, then someone could make you choose one and take the other. How does it work when one of the camps is a list camp?

Can you claim Cenobite while on the list for AoF? Or can someone just show up when a group is camping AoF and claim Cenobite?


An explanation that made sense to me is that /list is NOT a camp, its completely separate. So 1 person could hold the EE camp that isn't on the list, and has the right to kill EE... but when list item drops it goes to person #1 on list.

[Polycaster]

It's called not going to college


You have a lot to learn about life.

[Kohedron]

Playing on a not classic /list server is even more serious business the second time around

[shuklak]

Playing on a not classic /list server is even more serious business the second time around

It's still real to me damnit.

[Azain]

To be honest, I did a who all gukbuttom and there 1 person at he camp, figured it was far better than the normal 4-5 so couldnt be that bad. But yes, I agree that it makes more sense to wait till after nerf.

Who was the 1 person at the camp?

I only ask as after reading the text between you and Pamila it is clear nobody clarified how loot was being handled, and I'm hoping Pamila wasn't soloing the camp prior to you rocking up and feeling entitled to roll on the TBB if he was solo camping it.

[Canadiantx69]

So, modus operandi for Seal Team, themselves over all others, lol. I mean, good on Phatez for removing this one, but you've got plenty other people doing crap like this all the time. Had another ST guy ninja loot rubi boots the other day as well.

[White_knight]

Who was the 1 person at the camp?

I only ask as after reading the text between you and Pamila it is clear nobody clarified how loot was being handled, and I'm hoping Pamila wasn't soloing the camp prior to you rocking up and feeling entitled to roll on the TBB if he was solo camping it.

This is actually a good point.

Was Pamilia soloing the camp before OP rocked up to join the list for the mask, somehow got invited for XP then a TBB dropped for the person soloing the camp.

[cd288]

This is actually a good point.

Was Pamilia soloing the camp before OP rocked up to join the list for the mask, somehow got invited for XP then a TBB dropped for the person soloing the camp.

This actually isn't really a good point. If you're soloing the camp and someone asks if you want to duo and you want first dibs on a specific piece of loot, then you either (i) decline the duo and say you're soloing, or (ii) accept the duo on the condition that the new arrival understands and agrees that you will be looting the first "X item" to drop.

This is entirely Pamila's fault. you don't get to retroactively create loot rules because you didn't think about it beforehand and now something dropped that you want. If specific loot rules were never discussed upon group formation, then it's NBG.

[workbench]

So, modus operandi for Seal Team, themselves over all others, lol. I mean, good on Phatez for removing this one, but you've got plenty other people doing crap like this all the time. Had another ST guy ninja loot rubi boots the other day as well.

Did you petition and/or name/shame the guy who ninja looted rubi boots? Why not do that instead of just dogpile useless,baseless accusations?

[Nuggie]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Pamila was a trial in the guild for only two days. He has been removed. Goodluck with your petition.

Quality move by a guild leader. No-bullshit stance is the way to live life.

[Canadiantx69]

Did you petition and/or name/shame the guy who ninja looted rubi boots? Why not do that instead of just dogpile useless,baseless accusations?

I did petition, he gave up boots and immediately got another pair, but it's just the norm from what I've experienced from the vast majority of ST in my time on Green. I've had some great interactions with some of them (primarily clerics), but those are vastly outnumbered by the rest of their douchebaggery.

[White_knight]

This actually isn't really a good point. If you're soloing the camp and someone asks if you want to duo and you want first dibs on a specific piece of loot, then you either (i) decline the duo and say you're soloing, or (ii) accept the duo on the condition that the new arrival understands and agrees that you will be looting the first "X item" to drop.

This is entirely Pamila's fault. you don't get to retroactively create loot rules because you didn't think about it beforehand and now something dropped that you want. If specific loot rules were never discussed upon group formation, then it's NBG.

Depends. It's a good point if OP has a yet clarified how he joined the group.

I.e. did Pamila just make the mistake of assuming by letting a lower level join her/his group while they soloed the 3 static spawns while he waited in the list for the mask for some XP.

Pamilla clearly states she/he didn't need them to clear the camp.

Objectively is OP just lawyerquesting someone out of an item because they didn't sign a loot agreement on inviting them to join her/his camp.

We need some top tier lawyerquesters on this.

[cd288]

Depends. It's a good point if OP has a yet clarified how he joined the group.

I.e. did Pamila just make the mistake of assuming by letting a lower level join her/his group while they soloed the 3 static spawns while he waited in the list for the mask for some XP.

Pamilla clearly states she/he didn't need them to clear the camp.

Objectively is OP just lawyerquesting someone out of an item because they didn't sign a loot agreement on inviting them to join her/his camp.

We need some top tier lawyerquesters on this.

OP isn't lawyerquesting anyone out of anything. If you don't want to share loot and don't need someone in your group then don't group with them. If you do and you want loot rules to be different than the standard NBG, then clarify that upfront when they join the group. Pamila is an idiot who then tried to retroactively create loot rules when something dropped that he wanted.

[White_knight]

OP isn't lawyerquesting anyone out of anything. If you don't want to share loot and don't need someone in your group then don't group with them. If you do and you want loot rules to be different than the standard NBG, then clarify that upfront when they join the group. Pamila is an idiot who then tried to retroactively create loot rules when something dropped that he wanted.

So what your saying is common sense and logic needs to be removed from situations and ultimately a loot contract is needed every time someone presses invite or accept?

That's kinda lawerwuesting my frand.

[Mignart]

OP here. Happy to clarify.

I arrived to camp just after another guy got his mask, and he decided to leave and I came in to help Pamila break the camp (spread out the spawns to be more manageable).

His claim to have been able to manage the camp solo was proven 3 times throughout that he was unable to. If you wish to confirm this, please message Brunhilda the ogre shaman who was there with us.

I.e. did Pamila just make the mistake of assuming by letting a lower level join her/his group while they soloed the 3 static spawns while he waited in the list for the mask for some XP.

To address this - he was a 47 bard, I was a 47 Bard. Not a lower level, so I didn't come in to mooch as was assumed.

And yea all these comments about lawyerquesting is kind of off point here. Look at the facts of how it went down. Come to your own conclusions.

Thanks,

[cd288]

So what your saying is common sense and logic needs to be removed from situations and ultimately a loot contract is needed every time someone presses invite or accept?

That's kinda lawerwuesting my frand.

/facepalm...

[Polycaster]

he was a 47 bard, I was a 47 Bard.


So 2 bards camping a legacy item that isn't legacy for them, effectively decreasing the # of people who get this item by 2. There are so many layers of retardation and douchebaggery here that I don't even know where to begin.

Oh yeah, a 47-anything that can't camp a low-mid 30's 3 spawn? Ouch, you guys know you can buy songs from your trainer and then sing them for bonuses right?

[cd288]

Oh yeah, a 47-anything that can't camp a low-mid 30's 3 spawn? Ouch, you guys know you can buy songs from your trainer and then sing them for bonuses right?

Why are you attacking OP for this? He wasn't the one who couldn't solo the camp, Pamila was the one who couldn't handle the camp solo.

[White_knight]

OP here. Happy to clarify.

I arrived to camp just after another guy got his mask, and he decided to leave and I came in to help Pamila break the camp (spread out the spawns to be more manageable).

His claim to have been able to manage the camp solo was proven 3 times throughout that he was unable to. If you wish to confirm this, please message Brunhilda the ogre shaman who was there with us.



To address this - he was a 47 bard, I was a 47 Bard. Not a lower level, so I didn't come in to mooch as was assumed.

And yea all these comments about lawyerquesting is kind of off point here. Look at the facts of how it went down. Come to your own conclusions.

Thanks,

Well these clarifications make it even worse for Pamila.

The assumption that she was entitled to the camp can be dismissed.

Thanks for clarifying.

[Hazek]

Here's the bottom line without even having to read what they said.

If you can solo a camp then do it and claim the item.

If you can solo a camp but you invite others then everyone should roll.

If you are in a group but claim rights to the item just because you can solo it then you are in the wrong and will get backlash because of it.

I'm not sure if GM's suspend for ninja looting but if someone does this in a group then they should be suspended and considered a ninja. Unless it was initially agreed with screenshots of the text.

[Erati]

If I were a bard or rogue Id totally want this to be my DE mask for ultimate trolling into the future of the server. Think of the mad you d cause having this link, can even loot the Deception one too and talk about how its hard to choose which one to use today.

[annali]

Wow Pamila is an absolute moron. I don't know how people with that level of retardation manage to put their shoes on in the morning. Maybe he puts them on the wrong feet.

Well done to Seal Team to kicking this arsehole.

[Frug]

Grats Bladefrenzy

[Frug]

^ triggered nerd

^ shitty attempt at a save

[supermonk]

with any giant guild, you're always going to have some bad eggs. the thing that's different with Seal Team though is that Phatez is a saint and actually a good, reasonable, human being. it's refreshing to see that from a top guild and i think green99 is going to be different than what we're all used to seeing.

[Wallicker]

Lolling at a 47 bard not being able to easily break and solo this camp

[drdrakes]

Lolling at a 47 bard not being able to easily break and solo this camp

Well, they like don't have double attack man.

[Wallicker]

Yep, and if they had weapons out at this camp they are doing the class a disservice

[DMN]

i noticed some key facts missing. Who was at the camp FIRST. You also claimed that you and this shaman saved pamila from near death... but weren't you grouped at the time? Cause you said the shaman came later. You had no chance of soloing the place, pam does. even if dangerous sometimes.

[DMN]

Why are you attacking OP for this? He wasn't the one who couldn't solo the camp, Pamila was the one who couldn't handle the camp solo.

The only person's word we have on this is one of the aggreived parties. Not reliable without proof. Besides it's meaningless. just like chanter you can get a bad round of luck with bard and get screwed by RNG. Doesn't mean you can't come back and go hours upon hours without another hiccup.

[supermonk]

So 2 bards camping a legacy item that isn't legacy for them, effectively decreasing the # of people who get this item by 2. There are so many layers of retardation and douchebaggery here that I don't even know where to begin.

Oh yeah, a 47-anything that can't camp a low-mid 30's 3 spawn? Ouch, you guys know you can buy songs from your trainer and then sing them for bonuses right?

ppl mad i got jboots on my bard. it's actually really useful. idk but stats on DE mask kinda nice tho..13CHA and 7MR tho? so am i a douche for wanting it now as opposed to waiting 6 months?

[Wallicker]

DE mask also allows bard to easily do reaper quest.

[Wallicker]

But at approximately 1300 damage per minute, you could just snare walk mobs and drum dot for risk free killing off the entire ass/sup camp area with downtime as a level 47 bard... seriously that camp is a joke.

[dspity]

Damn, I left a gem on that corpse.

Added this hoe to my no fly list.

Morsel

[Nuggie]

ppl mad i got jboots on my bard. it's actually really useful. idk but stats on DE mask kinda nice tho..13CHA and 7MR tho? so am i a douche for wanting it now as opposed to waiting 6 months?

It's hard to explain to people why bard speed is too fast for some things until you've played the class.

[annali]

i noticed some key facts missing. Who was at the camp FIRST. You also claimed that you and this shaman saved pamila from near death... but weren't you grouped at the time? Cause you said the shaman came later. You had no chance of soloing the place, pam does. even if dangerous sometimes.

It’s irrelevant who was at the camp first because Pamila had chosen to join/form a group at the camp. At that moment it was no longer his camp, it was a shared one. When the item dropped Pamila didn’t argue “I’ve been here longer”, he said “I’m not rolling because my rolls are bad” and other nonsensical shit that doesn’t justify him being a greedy arsehole.

[Mignart]

i noticed some key facts missing. Who was at the camp FIRST. You also claimed that you and this shaman saved pamila from near death... but weren't you grouped at the time? Cause you said the shaman came later. You had no chance of soloing the place, pam does. even if dangerous sometimes.

Once again, I'll be happy to clarify missin details as you wish. After Pamila looted and I'd say about 40 minutes into trying understand why he felt he could ninja without rolling - his claim at being able to solo the camp was raised.

We were still grouped at the time, but I kindly asked the Shaman, Brunhilda, who was out of group to not assist the next pop as Pamila claims he can solo and I would like to prove he is full of shit. He agreed following the ninja loot explanation.

THe next mob that spawned I stayed out of the fight, as did the shaman and we watched Pamila have the following happen:
1) Got down to 10% then sit and mezz the mob while healing (for over 7 minutes back to full). With this method it would not be possible for her to keep the camp broken.

The following fight, I asked the shaman to once again not join the fight:
1) Pamila was toe to toe with the mob and got knocked unconscious as the mob died. Easily could have been killed one way or the other.

Third attempt:
1) Pamila was losing horribly and in the spirit of not being a complete dickhead despite being ninja'd out of the item, we decided to help as we wanted to keep the spawns coming quickly as in the end we wanted the masks as well.

Happy to clarify any more details but this is getting really off point.
- He ninja'd.
- He gave nonsense arguments as to why he should not roll.

Thanks,

[Asteria]

Pamila person definitely looking like one of the looniest (ever)crackheads I have seen for awhile, but to be fair I haven't played much EQ lately.

Great name/shame and guild booting, Mignart/Phatez :)

[Anxarcule]

Pamila sounds like an entitled brat - hope harsh punishments are issued for this; Mignart should get the TBB and Pamila should be banned for 30 days IMO. Having ninja looters get away with this or being penalized with having to re-roll de-incentivizes players to act decently to each other... if the worst penalty is being forced to re-roll for the item then they may as well try and get away with ninja looting. GMs shouldn't have to waste their time with this nonsense - a few publicized harsh punishments should make people like this think twice about behaving like this.

[derpcake2]

The only person's word we have on this is one of the aggreived parties. Not reliable without proof. Besides it's meaningless. just like chanter you can get a bad round of luck with bard and get screwed by RNG. Doesn't mean you can't come back and go hours upon hours without another hiccup.

Hard to say if genuine retard or troll.

[Asteria]

Hard to say if genuine retard or troll.

Genuine retard? (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=340440) :(

[Bondrake]

It's pretty obvious this Pam character has an awful life, maybe abusive parents growing up, poor, no job or an awful job and he's angry with life knowing he will never make something out of it. SAD.

[DMN]

So you dumb assumptive fucks didn't read that pam was first person at the camp? A 47 enchanter, bard, or cleric would need no help splitting or holding that camp. OP has already clearly lied, saying that brunhilda had witness this person's difficulty in breaking/holding the camp, but if you read carefully he said Brunhilda came LATER and that appear to be after these two bards were working together, but at that poin the camp was supposedly cleared/staggered, which probabaly means that a near death experience there would have had to do with the buggy ass pathing and a runner that got away.


Dumb cunts like you are why juries are such a fucking joke in the USA. Learn same basic logic skills and reading comprehension. And as far as im concerned if someone can solo a camp and they are first there, it's their camp to do with as they like.

[Anxarcule]

So you dumb assumptive fucks didn't read that pam was first person at the camp? A 47 enchanter, bard, or cleric would need no help splitting or holding that camp. OP has already clearly lied, saying that brunhilda had witness this person's difficulty in breaking/holding the camp, but if you read carefully he said Brunhilda came LATER and that appear to be after these two bards were working together, but at that poin the camp was supposedly cleared/staggered, which probabaly means that a near death experience there would have had to do with the buggy ass pathing and a runner that got away.


Dumb cunts like you are why juries are such a fucking joke in the USA. Learn same basic logic skills and reading comprehension. And as far as im concerned if someone can solo a camp and they are first there, it's their camp to do with as they like.

Despite your abrasive tone I agree with the fact that if they are there first and they maintain the camp it is theirs and they call the shots... but once you agree to group it is now the groups camp. I don't see what is so difficult with clarifying that ahead of time. "Hey we can group to together to get spawns down faster but this is my camp and I get dibs on any loot" = problem solved... now you leave Mignart the option to group or not to group and let them try to solo every mob themselves which from what it sounds like they weren't able to do consistently for whatever reason.

Is it so difficult to communicate something like that up front? Why just make a dubm assumption like that?

[Bondrake]

So you dumb assumptive fucks didn't read that pam was first person at the camp? A 47 enchanter, bard, or cleric would need no help splitting or holding that camp. OP has already clearly lied, saying that brunhilda had witness this person's difficulty in breaking/holding the camp, but if you read carefully he said Brunhilda came LATER and that appear to be after these two bards were working together, but at that poin the camp was supposedly cleared/staggered, which probabaly means that a near death experience there would have had to do with the buggy ass pathing and a runner that got away.


Dumb cunts like you are why juries are such a fucking joke in the USA. Learn same basic logic skills and reading comprehension. And as far as im concerned if someone can solo a camp and they are first there, it's their camp to do with as they like.

So mad over a video game and an incident that doesn't even affect your life at all. LOL LOSER.

[aaezil]

One of the saddest dmn rants. So off base. Is dmn Pamila?

[DMN]

Despite your abrasive tone I agree with the fact that if they are there first and they maintain the camp it is theirs and they call the shots... but once you agree to group it is now the groups camp. I don't see what is so difficult with clarifying that ahead of time. "Hey we can group to together to get spawns down faster but this is my camp and I get dibs on any loot" = problem solved... now you leave Mignart the option to group or not to group and let them try to solo every mob themselves which from what it sounds like they weren't able to do consistently for whatever reason.

Is it so difficult to communicate something like that up front? Why just make a dubm assumption like that?

it's your job when you join someone else's group/camp to suss out the details of how loot is going to be handled. The onus was on Mignart.

Mignart's "story" about pam as I believe i have already demonstrated stinks of bullshit. Everyone at that camp can easily get screwed over by that buggy pathing by the ladder and the fact the mob will sometimes teleport into aggro range of other ghouls, especially in off hours that this appears to have occurred where many of the spawns arent being killed. This isn't an indication of anything other than how shit the pathing is in some areas of this emu.

[DMN]

One of the saddest dmn rants. So off base. Is dmn Pamila?

I noticed you challenge not a fucking one of my points, fuck boy. Wonder why?

[annali]

One of the saddest dmn rants. So off base. Is dmn Pamila?

I think this DMN fellow might be even more retarded than Pamila.

[DMN]

So mad over a video game and an incident that doesn't even affect your life at all. LOL LOSER.

Cause it's this shit community of low IQ losers who are judge and jury that I eventually will also suffer for eventually. Ask not for whom the bell tolls.

[Lanzellot]

green is the shittest community what i ever seen on P99 ,banned rmters assholes etc ,JOIN TEAL OR BLUE;)

[cd288]

i noticed some key facts missing. Who was at the camp FIRST. You also claimed that you and this shaman saved pamila from near death... but weren't you grouped at the time? Cause you said the shaman came later. You had no chance of soloing the place, pam does. even if dangerous sometimes.

Jumping in on a thread and being aggressive without reading any of the comments that were posted after the original post, which included additional details and clarifications from the OP. Typical DMN move.

[DMN]

Jumping in on a thread and being aggressive without reading any of the comments that were posted after the original post, which included additional details and clarifications from the OP. Typical DMN move.

A key material fact was conveniently missing from the OP. it turns out that key material fact completely debunks his salty tears about "A TBB that he doen't even care about"(ya fucking right). This dude has liar written all over him.

[OuterChimp]

As a name and shame thread, I give this a 9.5 out of 10. Good job OP.

I also give a Gratz out of Bladefrenzy to the funny follow-on posts.

[Mignart]

So you dumb assumptive fucks didn't read that pam was first person at the camp? A 47 enchanter, bard, or cleric would need no help splitting or holding that camp. OP has already clearly lied, saying that brunhilda had witness this person's difficulty in breaking/holding the camp, but if you read carefully he said Brunhilda came LATER and that appear to be after these two bards were working together, but at that poin the camp was supposedly cleared/staggered, which probabaly means that a near death experience there would have had to do with the buggy ass pathing and a runner that got away.

OP here - sorry I had to just respond to this.

I have no idea where you are throwing in this idea of broken paths and ladders? This is the more far fetched thing I've heard so far. If you had actually read the post and my follow-up, you would have understood the following:
A) I helped Pam break into the camp and split it (time between spawns) once a previous guy got his mask.
B) Brunhilda the Ogre Shaman, who I would love to find and chime in here, came after we "broke" the camp and was chilling waiting as he was #3 on list.
C) Pamila nearby died THREE times attempting prove that he can solo the camp as was discussed in my previous post. Not to do with pathing, ladders, weird bugs, aliens, big foot or some other random nonsense you can mention.

Last I'll be chiming in here as I think the message has been delivered:
1) Pam ninja'd
2) DMN is on drugs.

Good day.

[cd288]

OP here - sorry I had to just respond to this.

I have no idea where you are throwing in this idea of broken paths and ladders? This is the more far fetched thing I've heard so far. If you had actually read the post and my follow-up, you would have understood the following:
A) I helped Pam break into the camp and split it (time between spawns) once a previous guy got his mask.
B) Brunhilda the Ogre Shaman, who I would love to find and chime in here, came after we "broke" the camp and was chilling waiting as he was #3 on list.
C) Pamila nearby died THREE times attempting prove that he can solo the camp as was discussed in my previous post. Not to do with pathing, ladders, weird bugs, aliens, big foot or some other random nonsense you can mention.

Last I'll be chiming in here as I think the message has been delivered:
1) Pam ninja'd
2) DMN is on drugs.

Good day.

Since you seem somewhat new to the forums, I'll impart upon you some advice, which is to essentially do what many other people on here do whenever DMN says anything...just try to ignore it

[Mignart]

Since you seem somewhat new to the forums, I'll impart upon you some advice, which is to essentially do what many other people on here do whenever DMN says anything...just try to ignore it

Noted. Thanks.

[DMN]

OP here - sorry I had to just respond to this.

I have no idea where you are throwing in this idea of broken paths and ladders? This is the more far fetched thing I've heard so far. If you had actually read the post and my follow-up, you would have understood the following:
A) I helped Pam break into the camp and split it (time between spawns) once a previous guy got his mask.
B) Brunhilda the Ogre Shaman, who I would love to find and chime in here, came after we "broke" the camp and was chilling waiting as he was #3 on list.
C) Pamila nearby died THREE times attempting prove that he can solo the camp as was discussed in my previous post. Not to do with pathing, ladders, weird bugs, aliens, big foot or some other random nonsense you can mention.

Last I'll be chiming in here as I think the message has been delivered:
1) Pam ninja'd
2) DMN is on drugs.

Good day.

You mean "nearly" died? nearly dying isn't the same thing as dying. This ain't horshoes kid.

So you are telling me you guys essentially quit your shared camp and this pam person tried clear camp by themselves? And if you don't "know anything" about broken pathing involving the ass/sup ladder then you have once again revealed yourself as complete fucking liar.

[DMN]

And as a side note your screenshots are fucking garbage. How did you manage to fuck them up so badly? And are you too stupid to know you can expand the window and show 10 times more information per screenshot? In all those screenshots you could have listed thousands of line of text from this encounter. You instead chose to pick and choose what to show and what not to show. And of course you have to add your own little paragraph of context (bias) to every screenshot. And Why are you upset about getting a dagger instead of a belt... Didn't you say you didn't really care about the TBB.


Elf court finds you full of shit. Case dismissed.

[Mignart]

You mean "nearly" died? nearly dying isn't the same thing as dying. This ain't horshoes kid.

So you are telling me you guys essentially quit your shared camp and this pam person tried clear camp by themselves? And if you don't "know anything" about broken pathing involving the ass/sup ladder then you have once again revealed yourself as complete fucking liar.

Legit laughed out loud. You, my friend, are a character.

[DMN]

Legit laughed out loud. You, my friend, are a character.

I noticed you evaded the question. we can add this to the list of why no one should trust you or your version of events.

[Madbad]

Did we just find out Pamila's forum account?

[DMN]

Did we just find out Pamila's forum account?

Don't know pamila, never even seen pamila in game. I do know the ass/sup camp, and I also know the types ofdipshits it draws, but most importantly I know the stink of bullshit when it waffs my way.

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

DMN you seriously defending this Pamila guy?

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

I haven’t gone through all the recent posts, was the case somehow turned around in Pamila’s favour or is DMN just crazy.

[Jungleberry]

I haven’t gone through all the recent posts, was the case somehow turned around in Pamila’s favour or is DMN just crazy.

DMN is just crazy.

[DMN]

DMN you seriously defending this Pamila guy?

I've been im simialr situations at that very same camp. Some clown cant clear camp. Wants me to come not only help clear for guise but wants a roll on TBB too. Multiple times ran into asshats like this.

[Hazek]

So you dumb assumptive fucks didn't read that pam was first person at the camp? A 47 enchanter, bard, or cleric would need no help splitting or holding that camp. OP has already clearly lied, saying that brunhilda had witness this person's difficulty in breaking/holding the camp, but if you read carefully he said Brunhilda came LATER and that appear to be after these two bards were working together, but at that poin the camp was supposedly cleared/staggered, which probabaly means that a near death experience there would have had to do with the buggy ass pathing and a runner that got away.


Dumb cunts like you are why juries are such a fucking joke in the USA. Learn same basic logic skills and reading comprehension. And as far as im concerned if someone can solo a camp and they are first there, it's their camp to do with as they like.

If Pam could solo it then she wouldn't be grouped.

If she was farming the belt and only grouping to share the exp then she would have said that in the beginning.

You're ironically assuming she cleared the camp.

It was too dangerous to solo so she grouped. Took the item and refuse to roll. Bitch is a ninja.

And you think it would be easy for a 47 bard but you underestimate how bad some bards can be, especially female half elves name "Pamila".

[rictus204]

you just gotta tune out the posters who on every post only have negative things to say and call people low iq, asshats, stupid, on and on. the ol one trick pony who is mad at the world and lashes out on the p99 boards from behind his keyboard.

[cd288]

You mean "nearly" died? nearly dying isn't the same thing as dying. This ain't horshoes kid.

So you are telling me you guys essentially quit your shared camp and this pam person tried clear camp by themselves? And if you don't "know anything" about broken pathing involving the ass/sup ladder then you have once again revealed yourself as complete fucking liar.

Pam wanted to prove they could solo the camp without help and failed, moron

[cd288]

I've been im simialr situations at that very same camp. Some clown cant clear camp. Wants me to come not only help clear for guise but wants a roll on TBB too. Multiple times ran into asshats like this.

Exactly man. Pamila is the clown in this case who needed the help to clear the camp but didn't want anyone getting the loot lol

[DMN]

who needed the help to clear the camp

There has been no proof this ever happened. The OP has repeatedly lied regarding this encounter. His word is about as good as your advice.

[Hazek]

I've been im simialr situations at that very same camp. Some clown cant clear camp. Wants me to come not only help clear for guise but wants a roll on TBB too. Multiple times ran into asshats like this.

If you can solo it then you deserve the belt. But don't group then. And if you need to group then you both deserve to roll even if you're just "helping" them.

[DMN]

If you can solo it then you deserve the belt. But don't group then. And if you need to group then you both deserve to roll even if you're just "helping" them.

a 47 bard CAN solo that camp. Fact.


the onus was on migrant to clarify loot rules, not on the camp holder.

[khaybrother86]

Dude has said multiple times that he helped break camp. So all the nonsense you spitting is moot.

Just sit the fek down and chill. Maybe drink less coffee, or do less meth, or whatever the hell it is that is making you such a twat.

[Zeboim]

a 47 bard CAN solo that camp. Fact.


the onus was on migrant to clarify loot rules, not on the camp holder.

Why in the world would the guy joining a group be the one to set the loot rules? If you start a group, regardless of circumstances, and want something other than standard rolling on loot then it is up to YOU to establish the loot rules and let the other people fuck off because you're a giant, raging dipshit asshole before it becomes a contention.

[Smellybuttface]

a 47 bard CAN solo that camp. Fact.


the onus was on migrant to clarify loot rules, not on the camp holder.

Isn’t the default though that everyone present can roll on the item? As long as they participated in the kill. Surely the “whoever gets to mob fastest!” isn’t the go-to rule in the absence of an agreement.

[DMN]

YOU to establish the loot rules and let the other people fuck off because you're a giant, raging dipshit asshole before it becomes a contention.

Not how it works. if you join someone else's camp or group. it's your job to make sure you are cool with the loot rules. And is he a raging asshole? it's possible but ive seen no proof. I'd also add that given the hours this most likely occurred pamila might not even be a native english speaker. That can cause issues as well.

[valenwood]

I think instead of coming up with conjecture, we should look at the facts.

Let's start with a simple question:

What sort of misconduct has Pamila actually committed?

From the Play Nice Policy https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349

4. You may not Ninja Loot.
Ninja looting defined is when a player, disregarding the players or player who killed a mob, loots an item that is generally regarded as significant or valuable from the mob they did not kill.I see nothing that says that Pamila did not aid in killing the mob - actually all evidence says that Pamila did help kill the mob.

From the Play Nice Policy https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349

11. You may not defraud other players.

Fraud is defined as falsely representing one's intentions to make a gain at another's expense.I don't see any evidence of Pamila promising the OP anything.

Player agreements and rolling https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2866631&postcount=256

If everyone else is rolling and you decide that it doesn't apply to you, you're gonna have a bad time.I see no evidence from OP stating that the group agreed to rolling for any loot.

[TripSin]

I think ... we should look at the facts.


How about the fact that he's a greedy, socially inept POS?

[khaybrother86]

If no loot rules are specified before an item drops, than all parties need to come to an agreement on how loot is to be handled after a drop. This did not happen.

Rules lawyering is what makes p99 the worst. By server rules, a mob that has several PH spots is not a camp but FTE. But if you move in on said camp after someone else has spent hours trying to spawn the named, you are not breaking server rules, but you are in fact a dick. Not the situation here, but using as an example of how "playing by the rules" doesn't mean you are not an asshole.

[TripSin]

I'd also add that given the hours this most likely occurred pamila might not even be a native english speaker.

Are you just another Seal Team shitter trying to cover up for you and your guildmates' lack of human decency?

Your excuses for him are garbage. A language issue? We can see in the screenshots his reasoning just fine. There is no communication problem here. Just a problem of stupidity and greed. He literally says he doesn't want to roll because he doesn't want to take the chance that he loses the dice roll.

[DMN]

Are you just another Seal Team shitter trying to cover up for you and your guildmates' lack of human decency?

Your excuses for him are garbage. A language issue? We can see in the screenshots his reasoning just fine. There is no communication problem here. Just a problem of stupidity and greed. He literally says he doesn't want to roll because he doesn't want to take the chance that he loses the dice roll.

I'm not covering for anyone. Consider me Atticus. What exactly happened is still up to debate. What is not, however, is the OP's repeated lies/misrepresentation regarding this event.

[TripSin]

Not how it works. if you join someone else's camp or group. it's your job to make sure you are cool with the loot rules. And is he a raging asshole? it's possible but ive seen no proof. I'd also add that given the hours this most likely occurred pamila might not even be a native english speaker. That can cause issues as well.

Are you saying that the screenshots are lies? That Pamila didn't say what the screenshots show him saying? Because I plainly see Pamila being a greedy, selfish POS who is way too obsessed with pixels in an emulator of a 21-year-old MMORPG. I'm not on Green but I see this commonly in my experiences with Kingdom members.

[DMN]

Dude has said multiple times that he helped break camp. So all the nonsense you spitting is moot.

Just sit the fek down and chill. Maybe drink less coffee, or do less meth, or whatever the hell it is that is making you such a twat.

And why are we trusting the word of a known liar?

[DMN]

Are you saying that the screenshots are lies? That Pamila didn't say what the screenshots show him saying? Because I plainly see Pamila being a greedy, selfish POS who is way too obsessed with pixels in an emulator of a 21-year-old MMORPG. I'm not on Green but I see this commonly in my experiences with Kingdom members.

i can't even read half the shit on those garbage screenshots. But i do know that instead of posting the whole log of conversation, only bits and pieces were selectively chosen. Why?

[Anxarcule]

Not sure how you claim Mignart is lying - you can chalk up the ladder/spawn thing to rarity (not sure how often this happens myself) and the not caring about TBB being a figure of speech/secondary item to the fact that he wants to call out an asshole being an asshole.

You're in your right to disagree and try and poke holes but calling him a liar is a bit much IMO. But you're entitled to your opinion, though I don't know why you are so vociferous about everything - it's only a game and this isn't affecting you directly so why not look on the bright side of life and be a bit more pleasant?

[Madbad]

He is stuck at home, nothing else to do.

[Zeboim]

What absolute twaddle. If you join a group, it's not your responsibility to specifically demand to know how the loot rights are going to be in the group. It's assumed to be rolls unless stated otherwise. Nobody assumes otherwise except thieves.

[DMN]

Not sure how you claim Mignart is lying - you can chalk up the ladder/spawn thing to rarity (not sure how often this happens myself) and the not caring about TBB being a figure of speech/secondary item to the fact that he wants to call out an asshole being an asshole.



Ya, find me someone who has camped that room and doesn't know about the ladder. There is no figure of speech in English where you say you don't care about something but you actually do.


You're in your right to disagree and try and poke holes but calling him a liar is a bit much IMO. But you're entitled to your opinion, though I don't know why you are so vociferous about everything - it's only a game and this isn't affecting you directly so why not look on the bright side of life and be a bit more pleasant?

Like i said, don't ask for whom the bell tolls. i have personal experiencing with this spot, too, and someone could easily selective edit an event and totally misrepresent what was going on with a handful of selectively edited shit tier screen shots.

[DMN]

it's not your responsibility to specifically demand to know how the loot rights are

Wrong.

[Zeboim]

Wrong.

According to what, the most granular, bullshit ruleslawyering you can come up with? No groups in this game actually operate like this.

[DMN]

According to what, the most granular, bullshit ruleslawyering you can come up with? No groups in this game actually operate like this.

And most people generally will act in a matter that the rules don't even need to be consulted. That doesn't mean the rules don't exist. And ya, it is rules lawyering. That's p99 baby. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[Horza]

I don't know why you are so vociferous about everything - it's only a game and this isn't affecting you directly so why not look on the bright side of life and be a bit more pleasant?

There's really no reason to be so polite, you know why.

[cd288]

Wrong.

The standard loot system is NBG. It's incumbent upon the player who wants a different system to specify that. Otherwise it's assumed that people will be doing NBG rolls. Pamila could have said that he was taking dibs on the first belt and if OP didn't like it then he didn't have to join the group. Pamila forgot to say anything (or forgot the belt dropped at all) and then when the belt dropped decided to make up some retroactive loot rules because he realized something dropped that he wanted.

[azeth]

The standard loot system is NBG. It's incumbent upon the player who wants a different system to specify that. Otherwise it's assumed that people will be doing NBG rolls..

Did I miss some contextual post prior to this or what.

The standard loot system is assuredly not NBG, its greed rolls. If an item drops, everyone rolls whether they can use it or not.

[DMN]

The standard loot system is NBG.

Do you even play P99? i haven't even seen a NBG pickup group in close to year on blue or green.

[Hazek]

a decent 47 bard COULD solo that camp.

fix'd

[Mignart]

OP Here - decision has been made as to the petition by GMs:

Item has been destroyed as no loot rules were established beforehand and no attempt made by Pamila to compromise.

Lessons to be taken away
1) Greed before decency is king on P99.
2) Ninja'ing has no real penalties*
*unless the person petitions, then you just wont get the loot.

Case closed lads.

[DMN]

OP Here - decision has been made as to the petition by GMs:

Item has been destroyed as no loot rules were established beforehand and no attempt made by Pamila to compromise.

Lessons to be taken away
1) Greed before decency is king on P99.
2) Ninja'ing has no real penalties*
*unless the person petitions, then you just wont get the loot.

Case closed lads.

So now now any fucking time some mouth breathing fuckwit joins a group I'm in I have to treat them like a toddler. Brilliant.

[Mignart]

So now now any fucking time some mouth breathing fuckwit joins a group I'm in I have to treat them like a toddler. Brilliant.

Hey DMN, wanna group up bra?

[Halthor]

So now now any fucking time some mouth breathing fuckwit joins a group I'm in I have to treat them like a toddler. Brilliant.

I can guarantee everytime you join a group there is a "mouth breathing fuckwit" present but I digress

[Hazek]

Did I miss some contextual post prior to this or what.

The standard loot system is assuredly not NBG, its greed rolls. If an item drops, everyone rolls whether they can use it or not.

You're right that people are finally getting it and i'm seeing a trend where everyone rolls on tradeable items, which is the most fair system and how it should be.

But that terminology is backwards because FR (Free roll / everyone rolls) is actually NBG. Greed is when you don't let anyone else roll because only you can equip it while in reality everyone can use.

I'm still kinda mad that I passed on a braided cinch cord (500p item that I could also use on an alt) in a partial guild group because someone invoked "NBG" and I didn't stand up for what was right because I didn't want to deal with the ignorant backlash.

And that doesn't mean i'm never generous. I've given a Ghoulbane away before, but I still like to have a chance at getting loot I deserve to roll on.

[DMN]

Hey DMN, wanna group up bra?

did you understand the loot rules? will I need to repeat them again until you do? do you need them in another language?

[DMN]

I can guarantee everytime you join a group there is a "mouth breathing fuckwit" present but I digress

Real punishing from a 1 post throw away account.

[cd288]

Did I miss some contextual post prior to this or what.

The standard loot system is assuredly not NBG, its greed rolls. If an item drops, everyone rolls whether they can use it or not.

Either way, the point is the same. Whether it's greed or NBG rolls, the point is that you roll on it unless you agree to another system beforehand. Pamila did not specify another system.

As an aside, I haven't been in any group that doesn't by default operate by NBG within the past year, but either way as I mentioned above the point in this scenario is the same regardless.

[Halthor]

Either way, the point is the same. Whether it's greed or NBG rolls, the point is that you roll on it unless you agree to another system beforehand. Pamila did not specify another system.

As an aside, I haven't been in any group that doesn't by default operate by NBG within the past year, but either way as I mentioned above the point in this scenario is the same regardless.

I always say let the dice decide but usually the groups I have been a part of do go NBG granted its lower level and stuff is only a couple hundred plat at this point.

[Halthor]

Real punishing from a 1 post throw away account.

Nah just new here.

[DMN]

Nah just new here.

You wear it well, dumb fuck.

[Horza]

I can guarantee everytime you join a group there is a "mouth breathing fuckwit" present but I digress

[Halthor]

You wear it well, dumb fuck.

:)

<3

[Wallicker]

You telling me a 47 bard can’t snare a mob 12 levels lower instead of letting it path down the ladder? this shit ass easy camp that has handful of pussy lvl 35 frogs is giving them trouble? Pamila, please log on, hover mouse over your bard, left click then click delete you are making the rest of us look bad. This camp is EASILY soloable at lvl 40. Thanks.

[Zeboim]

Oh no, now you have to tell people you're gonna decide you don't want to let them roll and are going to just steal everything that drops if you wanna not have the GMs take away your stolen toys!

Jesus christ you might even actually have to talk to someone!

[Wonkie]

OP Here - decision has been made as to the petition by GMs:

Item has been destroyed as no loot rules were established beforehand and no attempt made by Pamila to compromise.

Lessons to be taken away
1) Greed before decency is king on P99.
2) Ninja'ing has no real penalties*
*unless the person petitions, then you just wont get the loot.

Case closed lads.

So it was about the loot?

[DMN]

So it was about the loot?

No way, Certainly not enough to name names in a RNF thread regarding, to contact the guild officers in another guild about, and certainly not to petition it.

[aspomwell]

In the immortal words of Raylin Givens, if you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.

[Albanwr]

So now now any fucking time some mouth breathing fuckwit joins a group I'm in I have to treat them like a toddler. Brilliant.

No, every time someone comes into the group tell them

The loot rules are NBG...or, the loot rules are everyone rolls no matter what, or the loot rules are x item is mine and no one else rolls.

No one is getting treated like a toddler, just common decency.

If that person does not like the rules, they leave and you get someone who doesn't care.

[DMN]

No, every time someone comes into the group tell them

The loot rules are NBG...or, the loot rules are everyone rolls no matter what, or the loot rules are x item is mine and no one else rolls.

No one is getting treated like a toddler, just common decency.

If that person does not like the rules, they leave and you get someone who doesn't care.

You just fucking saw multiple people contradicting each other one whether NBG is "default" or just rolling on everything. Now all some dumb fuck as to do is say they though they were one or the other, whichever is preferable to them and that no "loot rules were agreed to" and now they can just zap people legit items? use yor fucking head and the tiny brain it's got in it.

[Albanwr]

You just fucking saw multiple people contradicting each other one whether NBG is "default" or just rolling on everything. Now all some dumb fuck as to do is say they though they were one or the other, whichever is preferable to them and that no "loot rules were agreed to" and now they can just zap people legit items? use yor fucking head and the tiny brain it's got in it.

Multiple people in a RnF forum post mean nothing at all. Tell new people who join your group what the loot rules are and if they stay, they must agree or else they would have left.

Why are you always so angry lol

[Richco07]

Multiple people in a RnF forum post mean nothing at all. Tell new people who join your group what the loot rules are and if they stay, they must agree or else they would have left.

Why are you always so angry lol

While the poster is definitely angry, it's definitely commonly accepted that any public group you join is going to roll for items without saying.

If it were otherwise, Pamila would not have been kicked from SEAL team.

[Siege]

Why is it always a dude who rolls a female character?

[DMN]

Why is it always a dude who rolls a female character?

Cause who wants to stare at a dude;s ass all day?

[Naonak]

Got to love the elitists. Probably the only thing going for them in life.

[Asteria]

Since you seem somewhat new to the forums, I'll impart upon you some advice, which is to essentially do what many other people on here do whenever DMN says anything...just try to ignore it

Noted. Thanks.

;)

[Asteria]

You mean "nearly" died? nearly dying isn't the same thing as dying. This ain't horshoes kid.

So you are telling me you guys essentially quit your shared camp and this pam person tried clear camp by themselves? And if you don't "know anything" about broken pathing involving the ass/sup ladder then you have once again revealed yourself as complete fucking liar.

Sooo incredibly Sad/mad/bad -- has this DMN person already started winning 2020 shitter of the year award? :eek:

Imagine how his flatmate or parent flatmate feels every day.... :(

[Asteria]

In the immortal words of Raylin Givens, if you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.

But DMN is an awesome high IQ smartypants super funny guy! He just has the WORST luck! :confused::(

[DMN]

But DMN is an awesome high IQ smartypants super funny guy! He just has the WORST luck! :confused::(

Sorry this little fairytale romance of your isn't going anywhere. No matter how many of old threads of mine you necro, no matter how many skype cyber sex PM requests you spam me with, no matter how much you brag of my massive endowments -- i just don't like you in that way. In fact, i don't like you in any way.

[Asteria]

Sorry this little fairytale romance of your isn't going anywhere. No matter how many of old threads of mine you necro, no matter how many skype cyber sex PM requests you spam me with, no matter how much you brag of my massive endowments -- i just don't like you in that way. In fact, i don't like you in any way.

You sound like a very sick and insecure little boy :(

Thoughts and prayers for the parents whom spawned you

[Tethler]

my massive endowments

speaking of fairy tales

[Horza]

Sorry this little fairytale romance of your isn't going anywhere. No matter how many of old threads of mine you necro, no matter how many skype cyber sex PM requests you spam me with, no matter how much you brag of my massive endowments -- i just don't like you in that way. In fact, i don't like you in any way.

Would the two of you just get a room already?

[Horza]

sounds like someones jelly ;)

If only I was confident enough to discuss the size of my endowment on an elf forum.

[Naonak]

Pixel lust :eek:

[Aybabtu]

Speaking of Thick Banded Belts...

[plasma1010]

This would never happen on Blue

[Zekayy]

This would never happen on Blue

[Modwolf]

Just ignore him, he will go away eventually.

[LazyHydras]

Looks guys, I'm not going be overbearing on this one, but. . . something-something-executive-decision. . .


. . . and grats me.

[supermonk]

yesterday i was at DE mask and i invited OP since he was looking for the belt. He mentioned this rnf thread about how someone ninja'ed the TBB from him so I felt that it was only right to do the two time for the one time. When a TBB dropped, I proceeded to ninja the TBB and his tears were delicious.

[Mignart]

Hahahaha - you fucker. Bless you for actually giving it to me 10 seconds later. Would have been Name and Shame 2.0. Good laughs.

[Mignart]

I got screenshots too. Straight PTSD from that last one.

[Nirgon]

This guy deserves way more credit than he gets from some of you people.

[Hyjalx]

It's a fucking thick banded belt. Who cares

[OuterChimp]

Grats SuperMonk!

[cd288]

yesterday i was at DE mask and i invited OP since he was looking for the belt. He mentioned this rnf thread about how someone ninja'ed the TBB from him so I felt that it was only right to do the two time for the one time. When a TBB dropped, I proceeded to ninja the TBB and his tears were delicious.

Amazing lol

[Horza]

It's a fucking thick banded belt. Who cares

They still have months to kill until Kunark.

[battins]

What absolute twaddle. If you join a group, it's not your responsibility to specifically demand to know how the loot rights are going to be in the group. It's assumed to be rolls unless stated otherwise. Nobody assumes otherwise except thieves.
I've only seen people greed roll if no group member wants the item for their main or one of their alts. If it is contested everyone that wants it rolls. Pretty simple stuff, never had any issues!

[kaelseren]

OP here - sorry I had to just respond to this.

I have no idea where you are throwing in this idea of broken paths and ladders? This is the more far fetched thing I've heard so far. If you had actually read the post and my follow-up, you would have understood the following:
A) I helped Pam break into the camp and split it (time between spawns) once a previous guy got his mask.
B) Brunhilda the Ogre Shaman, who I would love to find and chime in here, came after we "broke" the camp and was chilling waiting as he was #3 on list.
C) Pamila nearby died THREE times attempting prove that he can solo the camp as was discussed in my previous post. Not to do with pathing, ladders, weird bugs, aliens, big foot or some other random nonsense you can mention.

Last I'll be chiming in here as I think the message has been delivered:
1) Pam ninja'd
2) DMN is on drugs.

Good day.

I don't particularly like drama, but this incident was advertised to the level of Black panther so I had to see for myself how shitty it is. I also don't particularly operate on hearsay; well being that I live in a courtroom...

#1 I have grouped with Mignart a number of times and have had no problem with him. I don't remember ever grouping with Pamila.

#2 Come on bro, you saying you don't care about the belt while going out of your way to post about it seems disingenuous.

#3 This all actually seems like poor communication about looting.

#4 Unless my own guildies are not being honest, they were in group with Pamila before Mignart showed. Apparently they were camping that mob for hours and Pamila didn't snag a belt and was next in line. They had recently left and Pamila stayed and held the camp.

#5 If this is the case, I am not sure how Mignart helped break the camp. This is actually how I heard about it because my guildies felt bad as to what happened to Pamila.

#6 I am not sure the whole story is being told and that's the only reason I give a shit because I don't like excessive punishment when it isn't just.

#7 Take this all with a grain of salt. BTW, I didn't even bother with the screenshots because they were too blurry.

[aaezil]

It's a fucking thick banded belt. Who cares

[Modwolf]

I don't particularly like drama, but this incident was advertised to the level of Black panther so I had to see for myself how shitty it is. I also don't particularly operate on hearsay; well being that I live in a courtroom...

#1 I have grouped with Mignart a number of times and have had no problem with him. I don't remember ever grouping with Pamila.

#2 Come on bro, you saying you don't care about the belt while going out of your way to post about it seems disingenuous.

#3 This all actually seems like poor communication about looting.

#4 Unless my own guildies are not being honest, they were in group with Pamila before Mignart showed. Apparently they were camping that mob for hours and Pamila didn't snag a belt and was next in line. They had recently left and Pamila stayed and held the camp.

#5 If this is the case, I am not sure how Mignart helped break the camp. This is actually how I heard about it because my guildies felt bad as to what happened to Pamila.

#6 I am not sure the whole story is being told and that's the only reason I give a shit because I don't like excessive punishment when it isn't just.

#7 Take this all with a grain of salt. BTW, I didn't even bother with the screenshots because they were too blurry.

Person joins group. Gets 0 chance at getting a multiple k item because why again? If she was loot councilling it she should have said something.

[Modwolf]

The punishment is just.

[cd288]

Person joins group. Gets 0 chance at getting a multiple k item because why again? If she was loot councilling it she should have said something.

Yup. It doesn't matter that you were "next in line" in your old group before it disbanded. If you're expecting to get the next drop, then you tell the person who joins your group so that you avoid an issue when the item drops.

From some of the facts in this thread, I'm inclined to suspect that Pamila couldn't handle the camp themselves and needed help to clear it, but was worried about scaring said help off if he said he was taking the loot.

[Pozzey]

I think instead of coming up with conjecture, we should look at the facts.

Let's start with a simple question:

What sort of misconduct has Pamila actually committed?

From the Play Nice Policy https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349
I see nothing that says that Pamila did not aid in killing the mob - actually all evidence says that Pamila did help kill the mob.

From the Play Nice Policy https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349
I don't see any evidence of Pamila promising the OP anything.

Player agreements and rolling https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2866631&postcount=256
I see no evidence from OP stating that the group agreed to rolling for any loot.

Pls die of aids. Ty.

[kaelseren]

Person joins group. Gets 0 chance at getting a multiple k item because why again? If she was loot councilling it she should have said something.

Nice presumption, but where is Pamila's response? Isn't there two sides of this story?

[Sethius Marlowe]

I'm sorry are you asking for an update on a month old thread?

[kaelseren]

I'm sorry are you asking for an update on a month old thread?

Ahhh, the stalker with ZERO self awareness. I'm sorry are you updating the thread that I updated? Fucking retard!

Should I sit at the edge of my seat clicking refresh so I can see myself talk as you do?

When I get around to it I get around to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJQAKDbq0hI

[Richco07]

Ahhh, the stalker with ZERO self awareness. I'm sorry are you updating the thread that I updated? Fucking retard!

Should I sit at the edge of my seat clicking refresh so I can see myself talk as you do?

When I get around to it I get around to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJQAKDbq0hI

Generally it's not a good idea to use the same username you use in game while posting like this. Builds you a bad reputation.

[Wonkie]

Pls die of aids. Ty.

username/post combo

[kaelseren]

Generally it's not a good idea to use the same username you use in game while posting like this. Builds you a bad reputation.

Ahhh so it's better to live in the shadows to talk shit? What if what I am saying is actually true? Should I still hide? Do you really believe in what you say if you need to hide? I'm unapologetic with what I type. I get plenty of people giving me encouragement when I log in. Yesterday it took literally less than 10 seconds before I got a tell by a fine young lad telling me to keep fighting the fuck heads on this server. You know, the ones who hide while talking shit.

We live in bizarre times when posts like yours would encourage someone to be too much of a coward to stand behind what they say. I mean really, this attitude is sweeping The West. Everyone would just as soon just get walked over or watch someone else get walked over just because it seems safer to avoid benign conflict.

Yeah, well, when I see a woman in countless videos getting the shit kicked out of her by some dude and there are 20 other guys standing around too scared to do anything, I wouldn't be one of those 20 guys. See I would jump in and do something. I wouldn't be like "Oh geez, my clothes might get messed up and I might be late for dinner" in some idiosyncratic means to justify cowardice.

You see the same attitude when throwing people under the bus by guilds to employers. "Ooh geez, bro is totally right, but hmmm, I might have to field some whiny people that only whine because other people worry about their whining... So I guess I just will dump this guy in favor of whiny mobs"

So even more bizarre is the spin you did in your own mind. Somehow someone standing up to someone that initiated the conflict is promoting a "bad reputation". Duh fuk? No wonder women bitch that chivalry is dead. Guys have become a bunch of neck bearded fedora wearing pussies.

[Skarne]

Ahhh so it's better to live in the shadows to talk shit? What if what I am saying is actually true? Should I still hide? Do you really believe in what you say if you need to hide? I'm unapologetic with what I type. I get plenty of people giving me encouragement when I log in. Yesterday it took literally less than 10 seconds before I got a tell by a fine young lad telling me to keep fighting the fuck heads on this server. You know, the ones who hide while talking shit.

We live in bizarre times when posts like yours would encourage someone to be too much of a coward to stand behind what they say. I mean really, this attitude is sweeping The West. Everyone would just as soon just get walked over or watch someone else get walked over just because it seems safer to avoid benign conflict.

Yeah, well, when I see a woman in countless videos getting the shit kicked out of her by some dude and there are 20 other guys standing around too scared to do anything, I wouldn't be one of those 20 guys. See I would jump in and do something. I wouldn't be like "Oh geez, my clothes might get messed up and I might be late for dinner" in some idiosyncratic means to justify cowardice.

You see the same attitude when throwing people under the bus by guilds to employers. "Ooh geez, bro is totally right, but hmmm, I might have to field some whiny people that only whine because other people worry about their whining... So I guess I just will dump this guy in favor of whiny mobs"

So even more bizarre is the spin you did in your own mind. Somehow someone standing up to someone that initiated the conflict is promoting a "bad reputation". Duh fuk? No wonder women bitch that chivalry is dead. Guys have become a bunch of neck bearded fedora wearing pussies.

Me no fake me the realest most men bad me good

[kaelseren]

Pls die of aids. Ty.

Certainly a strong rebuttal, completely changes the landscape of the argument. I think that settles it. Thread locked.

[kaelseren]

Me no fake me the realest most men bad me good

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up even with your failed attempt at ridicule; you know, the type of shit little children do when they're intimidated. Lol, what a dope.

[Skarne]

Haha yeah I sure am intimidated. Thread locked.

[Horza]

I get plenty of people giving me encouragement when I log in. Yesterday it took literally less than 10 seconds before I got a tell by a fine young lad telling me to keep fighting the fuck heads on this server.

:D

[gundumbwing]

Ahhh so it's better to live in the shadows to talk shit? What if what I am saying is actually true? Should I still hide? Do you really believe in what you say if you need to hide? I'm unapologetic with what I type. I get plenty of people giving me encouragement when I log in. Yesterday it took literally less than 10 seconds before I got a tell by a fine young lad telling me to keep fighting the fuck heads on this server. You know, the ones who hide while talking shit.

We live in bizarre times when posts like yours would encourage someone to be too much of a coward to stand behind what they say. I mean really, this attitude is sweeping The West. Everyone would just as soon just get walked over or watch someone else get walked over just because it seems safer to avoid benign conflict.

Yeah, well, when I see a woman in countless videos getting the shit kicked out of her by some dude and there are 20 other guys standing around too scared to do anything, I wouldn't be one of those 20 guys. See I would jump in and do something. I wouldn't be like "Oh geez, my clothes might get messed up and I might be late for dinner" in some idiosyncratic means to justify cowardice.

You see the same attitude when throwing people under the bus by guilds to employers. "Ooh geez, bro is totally right, but hmmm, I might have to field some whiny people that only whine because other people worry about their whining... So I guess I just will dump this guy in favor of whiny mobs"

So even more bizarre is the spin you did in your own mind. Somehow someone standing up to someone that initiated the conflict is promoting a "bad reputation". Duh fuk? No wonder women bitch that chivalry is dead. Guys have become a bunch of neck bearded fedora wearing pussies.

Might wanna ese off the meth a little. You could use the nap.

[Smellybuttface]

Guys have become a bunch of neck bearded fedora wearing pussies.

[kaelseren]

Yup. It doesn't matter that you were "next in line" in your old group before it disbanded. If you're expecting to get the next drop, then you tell the person who joins your group so that you avoid an issue when the item drops.

From some of the facts in this thread, I'm inclined to suspect that Pamila couldn't handle the camp themselves and needed help to clear it, but was worried about scaring said help off if he said he was taking the loot.

So I am not concluding anything either or... BUT, what "facts" are you claiming exist? Granted, I didn't read the super hard to read pics (I now know why, p99 has shitty compression for uploads) Otherwise, I just see a ton of assertions. We don't even have a response from Pamila.

As far as the "facts" with regard to "holding the camp", there literally are none. Mignart may or may not be accurate in what he is claiming before the screenshots. I'm inclined to believe him, but I am not going to say that belief is based on "facts" presented. Rather, he seems to have put in a lot of time presenting his case and Pamila hasn't responded. Being that apparently ST kicked them (Because they weren't a cleric-clerics get to act with hypocritical immunity), my guess is that Pamila knows this thread exists. At the same time, Pamila could have just up and said fuck this game and left. Something all of us should respect after 22 years of playing a tired and rotten bootlegged game we can't seem to leave.

All I can say is that Pamila was with a group of Venerate when this happened. When they got kicked from ST, that group said they felt bad and understood Pamila's position. I don't particularly care for hearsay, but for me personally, it would lead me to believe that Pamila was holding the camp and since that group said they were there and was the last in line for the drop (I think because of shitty rolls), that Pamila expected to get it next.

If that was expressed the greatest (or in fairness, if at all) who knows. I have grouped with Mignart a number of times and have no reason to believe he is making this all up either. If I was going to take a shot in the dark over what I have seen in totality, he comes in somehow either there is miscommunication or just flat out unresolved disagreement. The thing drops. Now it's here.

The biggest take away from this entire forum is a reflection at the utterly embarrassing levels of critical thinking skills The West now has. Strawmen are now somehow compelling arguments. Flat out baseless bullshit are now settled fact from someone that screams first. Yeah ok, the Russians hacked our election... I wonder what the excuse will be when Trump gets elected again. On a side note, if dems has their head out of the establishment's ass, they would nominate Tulsi Gabbard. She's hot and would get my vote even though I have never voted for a dem pres. The number one reason for my vote is that she doesn't believe in more war for "Our greatest ally". Has anyone ever asked why they're our greatest ally? Kind of the point of this post. I digress.

Look at all the posts of people passing judgment on flimsy or non existent evidence. Then you have the low to no lives that just slum around here to express their misery by just disagreeing no matter what was presented. I mean really, look at all the posts that don't even have screenshots or coherent grammar that people pass judgment with. Pathetic.

These are the same simpletons that bought into the whole Jussie Somllett BS and Covington Catholic nonsense to Tawana Brawley and before. Even after the hoaxes are exposed, these idiots look for the next opportunity to put their feet in their mouths because hey the facts may have been wrong, but the story is true. Maybe that's why so many of the same are attracted to a fantasy game.

Pro tip PSA: If there is a pandemic you don't need to create hoaxes to prove it.

Oh and while I am on my screed, how is it that Trump is under impeachment over something Biden is literally on video doing and joking about? More importantly, why isn't Biden being questioned about it by the Trump team?

Why? Because both parties are in on this bullshit sideshow. People are stupid. I can't wait until aliens build a superhighway through the earth.

[kaelseren]

There, I corrected it for ya...

[Horza]

On a side note, if dems has their head out of the establishment's ass, they would nominate Tulsi Gabbard. She's hot and would get my vote

:D:D:D

[kaelseren]

Might wanna ese off the meth a little. You could use the nap.

Yet another well thought out original rebuttal. How do we favorite or pin such a profound post?

gundumbwing: Hmmmm, how do I go about pwining this guy. Let's check out my toolbox. Drug reference, some ist or ism, poopy face, or tell him he lives in his mom's basement... I think I am going to go with my gut. This is genius! This breaking research needs to reach the people ASAP, fuck spelling, "ese off the meth". Done and done! Come back from that Kaelseren!

[kaelseren]

Might wanna ese off the meth a little. You could use the nap.

Lol, this is going to go into my repertoire to annoy the fuck out of everyone.

"Man, I would totally go with you to do that, but I really need 'The Nap(TM)' before I can do anything"

Did that fuck just call a nap, "The Nap"?

"Seriously 'The Dude(TM)', I would totally go with you to do that, but I really need 'The Rest (TM)' because I have The Sick(TM)'"

Yeah, that fuck DID say The Nap... Fuck "The Kaelseren(TM)"

[kaelseren]

Lol, this is going to go into my repertoire to annoy the fuck out of everyone.

"Man, I would totally go with you to do that, but I really need 'The Nap(TM)' before I can do anything"

Did that fuck just call a nap, "The Nap"?

"Seriously 'The Dude(TM)', I would totally go with you to do that, but I really need 'The Rest (TM)' because I have The Sick(TM)'"

Yeah, that fuck DID say The Nap... Fuck "The Kaelseren(TM)"

Yep, pretty sure I just defeated the internet with that post. Pure gold.

[gundumbwing]

Lol, this is going to go into my repertoire to annoy the fuck out of everyone.

"Man, I would totally go with you to do that, but I really need 'The Nap(TM)' before I can do anything"

Did that fuck just call a nap, "The Nap"?

"Seriously 'The Dude(TM)', I would totally go with you to do that, but I really need 'The Rest (TM)' because I have The Sick(TM)'"

Yeah, that fuck DID say The Nap... Fuck "The Kaelseren(TM)"

Sure.

[kaelseren]

Sure.

"Sure", can anyone explain to me what the point of posts like this are? Are you so starved for attention an ego that to get the last word you need to simply post "Sure"? Lol, wtf!

I mean I suppose it is the nature of the beast. Old bootlegged game and a drama filled rants and flames section. My guess is that it doesn't attract many academics. However, I was hoping that at least SOMEONE might be a well seasoned troll to banter with.

Nothing. Nothing at all. I mean even Nirgon, the self proclaimed king, is boring as fuck. I was told this was worth passing the time. I thought computer geeks were supposed to be smart. All I see are a bunch of sexually repressed intellectually stunted pale skinned overweight fedora wearing ego shattered failed unemployable dipshits.

Again, I understand that the vast majority of those that actually play the game intentionally avoid these forums and the majority of those that don't, never post. Of those, as in real life, one on one they always agree with me. They just always use the excuse (maybe with cause) that they just want to avoid the drama. With certain topics I can respect that, with others, you just can't remain silent forever as the drama will envelop you sooner or later.

Anyhow, I got to go scrub my schnutz and get ready for the day. Why don't you clowns (it seems only about 6 that repost the same drivel over and over no matter the post or person), like join together like Voltron and collectively work on a post that actually is worth responding to. Something well reasoned and based on legit facts so it has some "sick burn" potential. The whole "faggot" or other shit that are entirely baseless assertions like Nirgon's "Oh this has been settled" or "The GMS already investigated it" when they haven't, just doesn't really have any oomph behind it because it is supported by lies. How is that supposed to affect my ego? They are so easily turned right back onto you LARPING troll amateurs. Really you fucking dumbshits, how is a lie supposed to troll me? I was there bruh. Again, at least one of your posts made some sense so I have hope for you gundam. Also, I really like itsagundam on youtube so you get some points you don't deserve. Nirgon is just a flat out embarrassment in every way possible. The worst part is that he thinks he is clever... I really really want him to be since he claims to be the best, but I just don't see it anywhere.

Seriously, can anyone point out a post, ONE of his nearly 14000**** posts, that you sincerely can say, "Oh shit, he fucking sick burned that tool!"? Give me a link to ONE and I will give my honest and objective take on it. I am begging someone to show me because I want at least a little entertainment here. This shit is getting boring, quick. All this seems like is a bunch of turds that got heir asses handed to them all their lives and this is their way of throwing a punch...behind the safety of their screen.

Come on guys, when you throw your virtual punches, make them count! I ASK FOR MERELY ONE POST!!! I will slum around some threads that aren't related to me and see if I can pull out a gem to show you a good one.

[Hazek]

"Sure", can anyone explain to me what the point of posts like this are? Are you so starved for attention an ego that to get the last word you need to simply post "Sure"? Lol, wtf!

I mean I suppose it is the nature of the beast. Old bootlegged game and a drama filled rants and flames section. My guess is that it doesn't attract many academics. However, I was hoping that at least SOMEONE might be a well seasoned troll to banter with.

Nothing. Nothing at all. I mean even Nirgon, the self proclaimed king, is boring as fuck. I was told this was worth passing the time. I thought computer geeks were supposed to be smart. All I see are a bunch of sexually repressed intellectually stunted pale skinned overweight fedora wearing ego shattered failed unemployable dipshits.

Again, I understand that the vast majority of those that actually play the game intentionally avoid these forums and the majority of those that don't, never post. Of those, as in real life, one on one they always agree with me. They just always use the excuse (maybe with cause) that they just want to avoid the drama. With certain topics I can respect that, with others, you just can't remain silent forever as the drama will envelop you sooner or later.

Anyhow, I got to go scrub my schnutz and get ready for the day. Why don't you clowns (it seems only about 6 that repost the same drivel over and over no matter the post or person), like join together like Voltron and collectively work on a post that actually is worth responding to. Something well reasoned and based on legit facts so it has some "sick burn" potential. The whole "faggot" or other shit that are entirely baseless assertions like Nirgon's "Oh this has been settled" or "The GMS already investigated it" when they haven't, just doesn't really have any oomph behind it because it is supported by lies. How is that supposed to affect my ego? They are so easily turned right back onto you LARPING troll amateurs. Really you fucking dumbshits, how is a lie supposed to troll me? I was there bruh. Again, at least one of your posts made some sense so I have hope for you gundam. Also, I really like itsagundam on youtube so you get some points you don't deserve. Nirgon is just a flat out embarrassment in every way possible. The worst part is that he thinks he is clever... I really really want him to be since he claims to be the best, but I just don't see it anywhere.

Seriously, can anyone point out a post, ONE of his nearly 14000**** posts, that you sincerely can say, "Oh shit, he fucking sick burned that tool!"? Give me a link to ONE and I will give my honest and objective take on it. I am begging someone to show me because I want at least a little entertainment here. This shit is getting boring, quick. All this seems like is a bunch of turds that got heir asses handed to them all their lives and this is their way of throwing a punch...behind the safety of their screen.

Come on guys, when you throw your virtual punches, make them count! I ASK FOR MERELY ONE POST!!! I will slum around some threads that aren't related to me and see if I can pull out a gem to show you a good one.

potato

[Sethius Marlowe]

"Sure", can anyone explain to me what the point of posts like this are? Are you so starved for attention an ego that to get the last word you need to simply post "Sure"? Lol, wtf!

Hey, look, man.

I'm sorry because teasing can be mean and all and that's not cool. And I wasn't stalking you, you just happen to post in the same places I post. but like, you're like a bull in a china shop here.

I'm just trying to say that your mentality/mindset is aligned in a particular fashion where everything is like a threat or a confrontation or a secret plan and I think maybe you want to adjust your settings and get a better outcome in life.

buhdeeebuhdeeebuhhdeeebbeebebbuhhhhhhTHAAaatsallll , folks. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFVW38qnToI)

[gundumbwing]

"Sure", can anyone explain to me what the point of posts like this are? Are you so starved for attention an ego that to get the last word you need to simply post "Sure"? Lol, wtf!

I mean I suppose it is the nature of the beast. Old bootlegged game and a drama filled rants and flames section. My guess is that it doesn't attract many academics. However, I was hoping that at least SOMEONE might be a well seasoned troll to banter with.

Nothing. Nothing at all. I mean even Nirgon, the self proclaimed king, is boring as fuck. I was told this was worth passing the time. I thought computer geeks were supposed to be smart. All I see are a bunch of sexually repressed intellectually stunted pale skinned overweight fedora wearing ego shattered failed unemployable dipshits.

Again, I understand that the vast majority of those that actually play the game intentionally avoid these forums and the majority of those that don't, never post. Of those, as in real life, one on one they always agree with me. They just always use the excuse (maybe with cause) that they just want to avoid the drama. With certain topics I can respect that, with others, you just can't remain silent forever as the drama will envelop you sooner or later.

Anyhow, I got to go scrub my schnutz and get ready for the day. Why don't you clowns (it seems only about 6 that repost the same drivel over and over no matter the post or person), like join together like Voltron and collectively work on a post that actually is worth responding to. Something well reasoned and based on legit facts so it has some "sick burn" potential. The whole "faggot" or other shit that are entirely baseless assertions like Nirgon's "Oh this has been settled" or "The GMS already investigated it" when they haven't, just doesn't really have any oomph behind it because it is supported by lies. How is that supposed to affect my ego? They are so easily turned right back onto you LARPING troll amateurs. Really you fucking dumbshits, how is a lie supposed to troll me? I was there bruh. Again, at least one of your posts made some sense so I have hope for you gundam. Also, I really like itsagundam on youtube so you get some points you don't deserve. Nirgon is just a flat out embarrassment in every way possible. The worst part is that he thinks he is clever... I really really want him to be since he claims to be the best, but I just don't see it anywhere.

Seriously, can anyone point out a post, ONE of his nearly 14000**** posts, that you sincerely can say, "Oh shit, he fucking sick burned that tool!"? Give me a link to ONE and I will give my honest and objective take on it. I am begging someone to show me because I want at least a little entertainment here. This shit is getting boring, quick. All this seems like is a bunch of turds that got heir asses handed to them all their lives and this is their way of throwing a punch...behind the safety of their screen.

Come on guys, when you throw your virtual punches, make them count! I ASK FOR MERELY ONE POST!!! I will slum around some threads that aren't related to me and see if I can pull out a gem to show you a good one.

I thought "sure" was a good response to....whatever that post was supposed to be. I sure wasn't gonna ask you to elaborate.

Btw, I dont like Gundamwing. Hence the dumb part of the name. Its kinds obvious...but yea.

[Richco07]

Ahhh so it's better to live in the shadows to talk shit? What if what I am saying is actually true? Should I still hide? Do you really believe in what you say if you need to hide? I'm unapologetic with what I type. I get plenty of people giving me encouragement when I log in. Yesterday it took literally less than 10 seconds before I got a tell by a fine young lad telling me to keep fighting the fuck heads on this server. You know, the ones who hide while talking shit.

We live in bizarre times when posts like yours would encourage someone to be too much of a coward to stand behind what they say. I mean really, this attitude is sweeping The West. Everyone would just as soon just get walked over or watch someone else get walked over just because it seems safer to avoid benign conflict.

Yeah, well, when I see a woman in countless videos getting the shit kicked out of her by some dude and there are 20 other guys standing around too scared to do anything, I wouldn't be one of those 20 guys. See I would jump in and do something. I wouldn't be like "Oh geez, my clothes might get messed up and I might be late for dinner" in some idiosyncratic means to justify cowardice.

You see the same attitude when throwing people under the bus by guilds to employers. "Ooh geez, bro is totally right, but hmmm, I might have to field some whiny people that only whine because other people worry about their whining... So I guess I just will dump this guy in favor of whiny mobs"

So even more bizarre is the spin you did in your own mind. Somehow someone standing up to someone that initiated the conflict is promoting a "bad reputation". Duh fuk? No wonder women bitch that chivalry is dead. Guys have become a bunch of neck bearded fedora wearing pussies.

Well, for one, you strawmanned me because I didn't say that.

Let's think about this for a minute. You are on an obscure board for a 22 year old elf simulator, arguing and insulting literally everyone that will give you the time of day. That doesn't come across as irrelevant chivalry or bravery. It comes across as mentally ill.

You write novella after novella thinking you're accomplishing anything except making yourself look like a loon while feeding the trolls and using ableist and sexist language.

You don't come across as some morally upright person with a back bone. You come across as a socially unaware tool who is projecting their own insecurities.

You aren't teaching anyone here valuable life lessons. It's obvious you have none to teach other than as a demonstration of how not to behave.

Literally no one else on RnF spends as much time as you do responding. Most are simple one line zingers and very mild trolling.

You're immersing yourself in the toxicity and bathing in it. The worst part is that you are entirely unaware of that. You were kicked out of your previous guild for acting like this, I wouldn't be surprised if your current guild decides they dont want anything to do with your shit either.

[Bigsham]

didnt read 22 pages of mad about a thick banded belt in 2020 gratz pamila i guess

[kaelseren]

didnt read 22 pages of mad about a thick banded belt in 2020 gratz pamila i guess

LOL! Finally!!!! Ding ding! This was funny! See people? The dry sarcasm of "gratz" mixed with the irony that the OP has completely devolved. On top of that, "gratz" is relevant to p99 because that's what you say when someone gets a loot they need! You can't just say "Oh you're on drugs doo doo head (in obnoxious font sizes)". This is a solid post definitely worthy for a rants and flames forum. See how it's done Zirgon? Fucking twat.

Well done Bigsham, I definitely needed the inspiration seeing that others on here can do it right. Please post more.

[kaelseren]

potato

So, Solemn proves my point. Lol, what a dope. So anyhow, I promised to find something worth pointing out about how "sick burns" and trolling needs to have an element of irony and humor for it to be worth anyone seeing and giving it attention (What trolls crave).

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105
Original thread

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105&page=3
Albanwr: "I agree with a previous poster. Seek help for your drug addiction"

This is not funny for two reasons. #1 The whole drug trope has been beaten to death so it's unoriginal. #2 It recycles something someone already posted. #3 There is no objective basis. He may as well say, You're dumb because you are a mass murdering pedo. There is just no way there is any objective truth to it, so it is lazy.

Now my response is funny because I said two reasons and due to this guy being so incredibly weak in so many respects, I gave 3.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105&page=5
Pretzelle: "Let this thread be a PSA about drug abuse."
Hopefully now everyone can see how lame this is. Recycled nonsense.

So now scroll down to see Hazek/Solemn's post. You can see that he opts for being obnoxious. He thinks that by posting ridiculously big pics that somehow this is trolling, it isn't. Anyone can do that. I could respond by posting the exact same thing, but twice as big. Does that make it twice as trollworthy? No. He does the same thing by threadbombing all the time. This is just attention seeking 100%, not trolling or being remotely clever or funny.

Worse yet, he continues to recycle the same post that was funny when the first person did it, but not when Solemn autistically does it over and over. He's a larper and wanna be troll.

So, here's the clever post https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105&page=3
Castle2.0 (Mannastone): "WTS GEBs 14k - PST"

Why is this clever? Because of the irony. It is simple yet effective. The OP was bitching about the price being slightly less, so he makes it slightly more. It has the sarcasm thrown in for icing in that he of course isn't actually selling GEBS. I think the only way to top it would have been to say "WTB GEBs 14k - PST"

In any event, solemn saying WTB 20k is redundant, so not funny. Just imagine being that guy in a bar who repeats a joke that everyone already just heard and then after nobody laughed, he keeps repeating it.

So then of course we have another person who tries his best at trolling and emphasizes autism doing the same thing over and over.
ZiggyThe Muss: "Bruh"
Now everyone should be asking themselves, "HUH?" They would rightfully be asking that. There is an epidemic on this forum of wanna be trolls that do this one word retort and even with using only one word they can't make it coherent. Then again, this is the same guy who thinks it is somehow "trolling" by telling someone he is going to fuck your dog while your wife watches. Well, "I would shove a bottle of Windex in your mud tunnel, Ziggy while I watch Will and Grace". See how weak this is? It is so weak that anyone can use his trolling equation by inputting any random word in the worst ad lib session ever. "I am going to (insert any word) to your (any word while (any word) watches. So here is Ziggy probably the 3rd most visible wanna be troller second to Zirgon and Solemn. Well I guess there is Phazed Reality who seems to think trolling is just posting gifs after getting their ass handed to them.

So hopefully this has been educational for anyone who wants to give the subtle art of trolling a shot by seeing what to do and what not to do. Sorry I couldn't find a better solid trolling post to show how it's done, but the material is so bad on here.

[kaelseren]

Hey, look, man.

I'm sorry because teasing can be mean and all and that's not cool. And I wasn't stalking you, you just happen to post in the same places I post. but like, you're like a bull in a china shop here.

I'm just trying to say that your mentality/mindset is aligned in a particular fashion where everything is like a threat or a confrontation or a secret plan and I think maybe you want to adjust your settings and get a better outcome in life.

buhdeeebuhdeeebuhhdeeebbeebebbuhhhhhhTHAAaatsallll , folks. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFVW38qnToI)

Well, I can maybe believe some is a matter of coincidence, but it certainly isn't a coincidence you keep feeling compelled to comment on my posts.

As far as a better outcome in my life, what makes you think that I haven't accomplished enough? I am bored at this point that life has been so easy to be honest. I am not starved for money, I have a nice home, I have enough land to do whatever the fuck I want. I don't need to work for the rest of my life and that occurred when I was 32. I am not trying to brag by any means, but fuck man, justify your position.

Oh and as far as "confrontations", have you considered the forum you're in? As far as threats, wtf else am I gonna take from "Give me your address"? As far as say Patchet being a credible threat, lol, no. People that do what he does are not at all able to back up the shit they talk. I mean really, the guy provokes people and then runs to his guild, lies, and then forces them to have them deal with the shit he starts. Then they deal with my guild and then my guild gets bothered. Yet, people still defend him? Amazing. The only people I could ever think would defend him would be the same pussies that would do the same.

Anyhow, peace out homie.

[Skarne]

Ahh you have too much time on your hands, that must be why you have the time to write paragraphs of text you can summarize in a sentence.

[gundumbwing]

So, Solemn proves my point. Lol, what a dope. So anyhow, I promised to find something worth pointing out about how "sick burns" and trolling needs to have an element of irony and humor for it to be worth anyone seeing and giving it attention (What trolls crave).

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105
Original thread

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105&page=3
Albanwr: "I agree with a previous poster. Seek help for your drug addiction"

This is not funny for two reasons. #1 The whole drug trope has been beaten to death so it's unoriginal. #2 It recycles something someone already posted. #3 There is no objective basis. He may as well say, You're dumb because you are a mass murdering pedo. There is just no way there is any objective truth to it, so it is lazy.

Now my response is funny because I said two reasons and due to this guy being so incredibly weak in so many respects, I gave 3.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105&page=5
Pretzelle: "Let this thread be a PSA about drug abuse."
Hopefully now everyone can see how lame this is. Recycled nonsense.

So now scroll down to see Hazek/Solemn's post. You can see that he opts for being obnoxious. He thinks that by posting ridiculously big pics that somehow this is trolling, it isn't. Anyone can do that. I could respond by posting the exact same thing, but twice as big. Does that make it twice as trollworthy? No. He does the same thing by threadbombing all the time. This is just attention seeking 100%, not trolling or being remotely clever or funny.

Worse yet, he continues to recycle the same post that was funny when the first person did it, but not when Solemn autistically does it over and over. He's a larper and wanna be troll.

So, here's the clever post https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105&page=3
Castle2.0 (Mannastone): "WTS GEBs 14k - PST"

Why is this clever? Because of the irony. It is simple yet effective. The OP was bitching about the price being slightly less, so he makes it slightly more. It has the sarcasm thrown in for icing in that he of course isn't actually selling GEBS. I think the only way to top it would have been to say "WTB GEBs 14k - PST"

In any event, solemn saying WTB 20k is redundant, so not funny. Just imagine being that guy in a bar who repeats a joke that everyone already just heard and then after nobody laughed, he keeps repeating it.

So then of course we have another person who tries his best at trolling and emphasizes autism doing the same thing over and over.
ZiggyThe Muss: "Bruh"
Now everyone should be asking themselves, "HUH?" They would rightfully be asking that. There is an epidemic on this forum of wanna be trolls that do this one word retort and even with using only one word they can't make it coherent. Then again, this is the same guy who thinks it is somehow "trolling" by telling someone he is going to fuck your dog while your wife watches. Well, "I would shove a bottle of Windex in your mud tunnel, Ziggy while I watch Will and Grace". See how weak this is? It is so weak that anyone can use his trolling equation by inputting any random word in the worst ad lib session ever. "I am going to (insert any word) to your (any word while (any word) watches. So here is Ziggy probably the 3rd most visible wanna be troller second to Zirgon and Solemn. Well I guess there is Phazed Reality who seems to think trolling is just posting gifs after getting their ass handed to them.

So hopefully this has been educational for anyone who wants to give the subtle art of trolling a shot by seeing what to do and what not to do. Sorry I couldn't find a better solid trolling post to show how it's done, but the material is so bad on here.

*yawn*

[kaelseren]

Ahh you have too much time on your hands, that must be why you have the time to write paragraphs of text you can summarize in a sentence.

Citation needed. Bar none, you easily are the most meaningless poster on here and that is considering Nirgon and Solemn. Holy smokes, can you point me to ONE post you have said anything more than one meaningless sentence and mostly just posts with one word? Did your parents ignore you THAT much my little rhesus monkey that you struggle that much to be noticed?

The only thing that can be summed up in one sentence is your mind.

[kaelseren]

*yawn*

More proof my post is spot on.

[Skarne]

Citation needed. Bar none, you easily are the most meaningless poster on here and that is considering Nirgon and Solemn. Holy smokes, can you point me to ONE post you have said anything more than one meaningless sentence and mostly just posts with one word? Did your parents ignore you THAT much my little rhesus monkey that you struggle that much to be noticed?

The only thing that can be summed up in one sentence is your mind.

Haha, I’m glad you feel that way.

[Hazek]

So, Solemn proves my point. Lol, what a dope. So anyhow, I promised to find something worth pointing out about how "sick burns" and trolling needs to have an element of irony and humor for it to be worth anyone seeing and giving it attention (What trolls crave).

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105
Original thread

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105&page=3
Albanwr: "I agree with a previous poster. Seek help for your drug addiction"

This is not funny for two reasons. #1 The whole drug trope has been beaten to death so it's unoriginal. #2 It recycles something someone already posted. #3 There is no objective basis. He may as well say, You're dumb because you are a mass murdering pedo. There is just no way there is any objective truth to it, so it is lazy.

Now my response is funny because I said two reasons and due to this guy being so incredibly weak in so many respects, I gave 3.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105&page=5
Pretzelle: "Let this thread be a PSA about drug abuse."
Hopefully now everyone can see how lame this is. Recycled nonsense.

So now scroll down to see Hazek/Solemn's post. You can see that he opts for being obnoxious. He thinks that by posting ridiculously big pics that somehow this is trolling, it isn't. Anyone can do that. I could respond by posting the exact same thing, but twice as big. Does that make it twice as trollworthy? No. He does the same thing by threadbombing all the time. This is just attention seeking 100%, not trolling or being remotely clever or funny.

Worse yet, he continues to recycle the same post that was funny when the first person did it, but not when Solemn autistically does it over and over. He's a larper and wanna be troll.

So, here's the clever post https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348105&page=3
Castle2.0 (Mannastone): "WTS GEBs 14k - PST"

Why is this clever? Because of the irony. It is simple yet effective. The OP was bitching about the price being slightly less, so he makes it slightly more. It has the sarcasm thrown in for icing in that he of course isn't actually selling GEBS. I think the only way to top it would have been to say "WTB GEBs 14k - PST"

In any event, solemn saying WTB 20k is redundant, so not funny. Just imagine being that guy in a bar who repeats a joke that everyone already just heard and then after nobody laughed, he keeps repeating it.

So then of course we have another person who tries his best at trolling and emphasizes autism doing the same thing over and over.
ZiggyThe Muss: "Bruh"
Now everyone should be asking themselves, "HUH?" They would rightfully be asking that. There is an epidemic on this forum of wanna be trolls that do this one word retort and even with using only one word they can't make it coherent. Then again, this is the same guy who thinks it is somehow "trolling" by telling someone he is going to fuck your dog while your wife watches. Well, "I would shove a bottle of Windex in your mud tunnel, Ziggy while I watch Will and Grace". See how weak this is? It is so weak that anyone can use his trolling equation by inputting any random word in the worst ad lib session ever. "I am going to (insert any word) to your (any word while (any word) watches. So here is Ziggy probably the 3rd most visible wanna be troller second to Zirgon and Solemn. Well I guess there is Phazed Reality who seems to think trolling is just posting gifs after getting their ass handed to them.

So hopefully this has been educational for anyone who wants to give the subtle art of trolling a shot by seeing what to do and what not to do. Sorry I couldn't find a better solid trolling post to show how it's done, but the material is so bad on here.

Broccoli

[sedrie.bellamie]

it is amazing tha Pamila and kaelseren are still on green. Like give it up and move on lol