Teal is failed - why are you doing this to us

[Bardp1999]

Level 40+ on Green is an absolute ghost land outside of HHK, I'm sure teal is the exact same way. The servers are running at like 300-600 people... Blue was successful because it had an awesome population and the Norrath felt full. If you don't merge the servers soon you are going to do permanent damage to the player base because its just shedding people by droves at this point.

Cool idea for two servers, it didn't work out well, merge back into Green please

[Ripqozko]

Consider blue

[Bardp1999]

I would rather ass chug gasoline than log into Blue

[Grimgor]

All the money camps are already camped damn near 24/7 on Teal. Would be even worse if they merged. Exp spots are pretty open(except for HHK nobles/bards, which is permacamped pretty much), but you need to form your own groups typically rather than just throwing up LFG.

Then there's raiding. Contested FGs 3 times a day? Contested Phinny twice a day? Like 6 guilds contesting every dragon? I'll pass.

I hope they don't merge until Kunark at the earliest.

[TheDudeAbides]

All the money camps are already camped damn near 24/7 on Teal. Would be even worse if they merged. Exp spots are pretty open(except for HHK nobles/bards, which is permacamped pretty much), but you need to form your own groups typically rather than just throwing up LFG.

Then there's raiding. Contested FGs 3 times a day? Contested Phinny twice a day? Like 6 guilds contesting every dragon? I'll pass.

I hope they don't merge until Kunark at the earliest.

That's the very reason they should merge the servers now

The lack of competition has allowed to 2 guilds to monopolize all the end game content when they should be competing with each other for it

[Bardp1999]

The cash camps are going to be duo'd by an enchanter and a cleric 24/7 even if the server population was 25, so IMO that's a stupid reason to not merge. Let the neckbeards occupy LGuk and let the rest of the population group together in harmony.

[Grimgor]

That's the very reason they should merge the servers now

The lack of competition has allowed to 2 guilds to monopolize all the end game content when they should be competing with each other for it

I don't know how much competition there is for Seal Team on Green, but Black Lotus and Lineage have contested Kingdom on last two Vox, last Phinny, and numerous times for Fire Giants.

So that's already 3 guilds that would be contesting targets. Then add in Steal Team plus who ever is contesting them on Green into the mix and it'd be a cluster fuck with so few targets to go after.

[Grimgor]

As for leveling you'd just go from having trouble finding groups cause no one is LFG or looking for more people for their group in 40+ zones to all the 40+ zones being crowded and not being able to find groups cause everything is camped.

At least now you can form your own group and go somewhere to XP fairly easily.

[TheDudeAbides]

I don't know how much competition there is for Seal Team on Green, but Black Lotus and Lineage have contested Kingdom on last two Vox, last Phinny, and numerous times for Fire Giants.

So that's already 3 guilds that would be contesting targets. Then add in Steal Team plus who ever is contesting them on Green into the mix and it'd be a cluster fuck with so few targets to go after.

Competition over content is what has always made Everquest a unique game that is different than any other mainstream MMO

It's the competition that creates a game within the game. Players essentially create their own content through social interaction fueled by competition. Rivalries will emerge. Alliances. Reputations will be forged

The planes are literally right around the corner which will open up more content. Maybe if the economies merge we can finally see some stability there as well

[Albanwr]

Level 40+ on Green is an absolute ghost land outside of HHK, I'm sure teal is the exact same way.

You may be sure, but you are sure wrong.

[DMN]

Maybe it's to learn y'all a lesson who voted for the split.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI

[Tethler]

Maybe it's to learn y'all a lesson who voted for the split.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI

I was initally against the split. Did the Teal xfer at almost the last minute and haven't regretted it once. Also, I'm only 30 since I'm a filthy casual. I might feel differently If I were in the top end.

[Darkfuneral]

P99 continues to suck cause the GM makes poor decisions Teal was a disaster they didnt even wait a week before making it

[Canadiantx69]

P99 continues to suck cause the GM makes poor decisions Teal was a disaster they didnt even wait a week before making it

LOL, there were 300+ in GFay during peak hours after the split still, even with the populations dropping down to 800 on Green/600 on Teal during peak, that's still a ton of people. The server split was the least of the issues that are ongoing for the servers.

[Darkfuneral]

o rly

[Tethler]

o rly

ya rly

[RipVanFish]

Level 40+ on Green is an absolute ghost land outside of HHK, I'm sure teal is the exact same way. The servers are running at like 300-600 people... Blue was successful because it had an awesome population and the Norrath felt full. If you don't merge the servers soon you are going to do permanent damage to the player base because its just shedding people by droves at this point.

Cool idea for two servers, it didn't work out well, merge back into Green please

Green is not a ghost town outside of HK, your population quote is way off, Blue was successful and fun long before it had anywhere near the population it does now, and the servers aren’t “shedding people by droves” because of the split.

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

P99 continues to suck cause the GM makes poor decisions Teal was a disaster they didnt even wait a week before making it

You’re an idiot.

[stewe]

These servers arent being merged til after legacy items are removed, it is already a headache for the DEVS with all the crying posts now, this way 2 times the ppl can get legacy before they disappear, you can make these same exact posts all you want but just like the tons of change the list posts, it isnt going to change anything.

[silo32]

No fuck off

Camps are already 2 hr wait list or more on green. Most nights iblog off after 3 hrs. If they merge you will cry a fucking river of piss and tears for ur teal sever back. 40+ is already bad on green. Hhk is perma camped and solb is 30+ most nights 3 exp groups.


Did i mention to go fist urself op?

[silo32]

Avg ruby bp list is 5 or 6 on green. Ps op u wanted teal go play it u entitled shit stain millennial

[silo32]

No fuck off

Camps are already 2 hr wait list or more on green. Most nights i log off after 3 hrs most nights with no xp gain. If they merge you will cry a fucking river of piss and tears for ur teal sever back. 40+ is already bad on green. Hhk is perma camped and solb is 30+ most nights 3 exp groups.


Did i mention to go fist urself op?

[silo32]

Op plays on green and he wants teal to merge? Lmao op is clearly a shit poster fire giant. Stfu kid. You prob don't even play here. Nice try trying to fuck every one else over with ur bullshit.

Closing this thread and banning another one of ops forum quest accounts.

[drackgon]

LoL gonna have to agree with Silo. I Thankfully xfered to Teal wayyy later(Dec 1) So played on green until 46. Green was a hell hole. Guk,HHK,SolB, Sola, MM, Unrest, HillGs, Ice giants. Name it and it was camped with 1-9 person list. It was annoying, I will say I am super glad I played a class that could solo while waiting on 14 different list groups. I came to teal, and first night found a group in 5 mins(we did Lguk live side castle), and from that point on found a group within 10 mins vs my 1-4hr lfg on Green. I will say leveling an alt has been hard bc I went cleric and clearly 80% peeps went cleric bc all groups 20-40 has had 2 clerics in each group with tons of clerics LFG lol. I for one was agianst the split. I held off xfered for so long, but since day one havn't regretted it at all. 3 Guilds competing for raid targets has made is super fun. Yeah there is some drama over here but not nearly as bad as green. Most drama over here is caused by peeps who've been gkicked and black listed anyway:)

P.S. any 46 players on green feel free to app to Kingdom!Come get your dragons, fish fry, and FGs:)

[cd288]

I don't know how much competition there is for Seal Team on Green, but Black Lotus and Lineage have contested Kingdom on last two Vox, last Phinny, and numerous times for Fire Giants.

So that's already 3 guilds that would be contesting targets. Then add in Steal Team plus who ever is contesting them on Green into the mix and it'd be a cluster fuck with so few targets to go after.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the big guilds on either server ends up losing a decent number of people post-merge because some of their members are playing on both servers simultaneously to duplicate their chances at raid loot, and will then just pick one guild when the servers merge.

[Tenderizer]

All the money camps are already camped damn near 24/7 on Teal. Would be even worse if they merged. Exp spots are pretty open(except for HHK nobles/bards, which is permacamped pretty much), but you need to form your own groups typically rather than just throwing up LFG.

Then there's raiding. Contested FGs 3 times a day? Contested Phinny twice a day? Like 6 guilds contesting every dragon? I'll pass.

I hope they don't merge until Kunark at the earliest.

*money camps are moderately camped. exp/camp spots being open isnt a positive at any level, at launch people were everywhere forced to xp anywhere they could and camps were really 24/7. Now you have open spaces in the prefered xp zones all the way up to 50 while people are sitting LFG for far too long 24/7. leaving a large amount of content open even outside those zones. They can form their own groups but people want to stay solo/duo/formed groups since they can get better xp/loot and not being forced to group for everything anymore. id rather have less prefered zones/people grouping and going on adventures together for xp or less prefered camps filling the world with life.


*so you would rather have uncontested content? How long would you want uncontested content? sounds greedy and slefish to me, entitled even.

enough content is coming out before kunark that the populations merging will add some spice at all levels forcing you to share or group or not being able to zerg an alt to 50. allowing players/guilds the ability to show up uncontested at money camps/raids/xp and form a gaps until kunark would make the competition not so fun for anyone attempting to join the fray or find groups for money camps or xp with people while leveling. This would again form a top heavy server with all the alts you could desire to get those pixels and money camps claimed by solo toons. Leaving the essence of eq a hollow shell with dead zones like what live turned into or how it would feel if boxing was allowed.

breakdown, if your favorite sports team won every game and was expected to win 90% of all future games is it fun? if you showed up at your prefered money camp or xp spot and a group of 2 3 or even 4 were there would you join or be upset its not open? conversely, if you were soloing your money camp and someone came up would you let them join?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ8lpCQbyw

[cd288]

Green is not a ghost town outside of HK, your population quote is way off, Blue was successful and fun long before it had anywhere near the population it does now, and the servers aren’t “shedding people by droves” because of the split.

They're not shedding people in droves, but they are definitely slowly declining as a general matter. I think it was last week that multiple days Blue was close to Teal's population. For the most part, the split has allowed people just to pack into the higher ZEM zones and not group anywhere else...as a result, people log in and sit LFG for 2 hours in the same old zones with no alternatives if you aren't a solo class. They then either stop playing or go back to their characters on Blue.

Merging might have some issues, but it would also force people to go out into the world again and start grouping in less traditional places. Pre-merge it was crazy where you could find groups...places I hadn't seen people often level in in large groups since the classic days on live. Ro, Highpass, Karana bandits, Befallen, Chessboard/Gobs/Bandits in Butcherblock, etc. etc.

[Bondrake]

Avg ruby bp list is 5 or 6 on green. Ps op u wanted teal go play it u entitled shit stain millennial

So angry over a game lmao. I can tell your life is shit getting so worked up over a video game. LOL.

[jackd104]

Having a great time on teal.

[kjs86z]

Consider blue

[Mblake81]

So angry over a game lmao. I can tell your life is shit getting so worked up over a video game. LOL.

wtf is this, Reddit?

[Mblake81]

fucker at least has some passion for his game, take your lolcat bullshit and blow it out your ass.

[Grimgor]

*money camps are moderately camped. exp/camp spots being open isnt a positive at any level, at launch people were everywhere forced to xp anywhere they could and camps were really 24/7. Now you have open spaces in the prefered xp zones all the way up to 50 while people are sitting LFG for far too long 24/7. leaving a large amount of content open even outside those zones. They can form their own groups but people want to stay solo/duo/formed groups since they can get better xp/loot and not being forced to group for everything anymore. id rather have less prefered zones/people grouping and going on adventures together for xp or less prefered camps filling the world with life.


*so you would rather have uncontested content? How long would you want uncontested content? sounds greedy and slefish to me, entitled even.

enough content is coming out before kunark that the populations merging will add some spice at all levels forcing you to share or group or not being able to zerg an alt to 50. allowing players/guilds the ability to show up uncontested at money camps/raids/xp and form a gaps until kunark would make the competition not so fun for anyone attempting to join the fray or find groups for money camps or xp with people while leveling. This would again form a top heavy server with all the alts you could desire to get those pixels and money camps claimed by solo toons. Leaving the essence of eq a hollow shell with dead zones like what live turned into or how it would feel if boxing was allowed.

breakdown, if your favorite sports team won every game and was expected to win 90% of all future games is it fun? if you showed up at your prefered money camp or xp spot and a group of 2 3 or even 4 were there would you join or be upset its not open? conversely, if you were soloing your money camp and someone came up would you let them join?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ8lpCQbyw

So much anger.

Non-crazy person breakdown: Lower pop is better to bring your own group to places, actually being able to farm stuff once in a while, and for raiding. Higher pop is better to find a Pickup up group in 40+ dungeons. I prefer low pop cause I actually have friends/guildies to BYOG to places.

[imsorryGMs]

Blue is still kickin pretty good

[El-Hefe]

Teal is rad.

Hope it doesn’t merge until Kunark.

[Bondrake]

fucker at least has some passion for his game, take your lolcat bullshit and blow it out your ass.

So angry you had to make a double post within a minute. LOL. I think I struck a nerve with you as well. Don't blame anyone for your shit life besides yourself pal. LOL.

[OuterChimp]

i dinged 20 last night.

Oh, and I chuckled at the first page comment about guzzeling butt gas. haha!

[GinnasP99]

Consider RimWorld

[Darkfuneral]

You’re an idiot.

You must be new

[Mblake81]

So angry you had to make a double post within a minute. LOL. I think I struck a nerve with you as well. Don't blame anyone for your shit life besides yourself pal. LOL.

You did strike a nerve, the LOL shit... it's fucking annoying and you know it is. You are not really laughing at all, just making filler posts.

I am not your pal, shitbreath.

[Bondrake]

You did strike a nerve, the LOL shit... it's fucking annoying and you know it is. You are not really laughing at all, just making filler posts.

I am not your pal, shitbreath.

LOL getting so worked up over a forum post for a video game that wasn't even directed at you. Pathetic. LOL

[Mblake81]

LOL getting so worked up over a forum post for a video game that wasn't even directed at you. Pathetic. LOL

Fuck off.

[Bondrake]

Fuck off.

Anger issue alert!! Weeoooweeooo. LOL.

[RipVanFish]

Aaaand this thread's potential has petered out and died.

NEXT

[Naerron]

pop always drops a bit before the next patch is out, just ride the storm, farm things that used to be super camped

[Zeboim]

Theres what, 4 40+ zones even in the game? Talking like its vast expanses of empty or something. Of course nobody is going to run all the way to fucking Perma. HHK always jammed, LGuk always has the major camps taken, usually some groups in Sol B, and people doing FGs/Freeti all the time. Theres even usually a Kedge group for belts etc, although naturally nobody wants to level in that death trap.

[Richco07]

Anger issue alert!! Weeoooweeooo. LOL.



hurr hurr u mad bro hurr hurr

[derpcake2]

OP needs a vacation. He only brings negativity.

Long overdue. Please forum admins.

/sending positive thots and players.

[Nisse]

Your average p99 player lacks the adventurers spirit, the population could be 2k and still 99% of players would be LFG in the zones on the official leveling path.

[Izmael]

Haven't logged in P99 for the last month because dynamic lights made too many zones unplayable for me.

Get on with your life. Problem solved.

[turbosilk]

People must branch out more on teal. Lots of people in sola, lguk, unrest, uguk, MM, even najena with a group last week. I have no problems floating around to various zones and getting a group.

HHK isn't all that (tm)

[turbosilk]

That's the very reason they should merge the servers now

The lack of competition has allowed to 2 guilds to monopolize all the end game content when they should be competing with each other for it

Dragons are already competed on teal and there is a nice overall environment. Let's not spread green toxicness to teal by merging.

[Darkfuneral]

Haven't logged in P99 for the last month because dynamic lights made too many zones unplayable for me.

Get on with your life. Problem solved.

They have no life to begin with

[Balimon]

Teal was one the best decisions R and N have made. We now have two stable thriving servers with a little bit of elbow room.

I can't tell if these dissenters are deranged or trolling.

[cornisthebest]

sol a is a godlike zone. such good equipment, money, and most importantly experience.

[cd288]

Teal was one the best decisions R and N have made. We now have two stable thriving servers with a little bit of elbow room.

I can't tell if these dissenters are deranged or trolling.

"Thriving" aka we now have three total servers where everyone just packs into the same ZEM zones because the servers aren't crowded enough to force them to go elsewhere.

[Balimon]

"Thriving" aka we now have three total servers where everyone just packs into the same ZEM zones because the servers aren't crowded enough to force them to go elsewhere.

No one is forcing you into any zone, you can follow the exp highway or make your own group. Blue was exactly the same way with 2k pop. If you think this behavior is new or abnormal I have some great beach front property to sell you in Kansas. Let me know!

[TheDudeAbides]

Dragons are already competed on teal and there is a nice overall environment. Let's not spread green toxicness to teal by merging.

I don't see a merge being toxic at all

I wouldn't really say the competition on Teal is really competition. The 2 strongest guilds aren't competing with each other. It's a water downed version of what it could really be which would make the server much more vibrant if there was a merge

Each server is basically it's own league with the "champs" competing with second string teams. We don't really know how good Kingdom and Seal Team are if they aren't in direct competition with each other

It's like having the AFL and NFL as separate leagues with no Super Bowl

If there was a merge and these guilds got a chance to compete with each other, it would be interesting to see how the Alliance game played out in an effort to get ahead of each other

People want to be lazy with their pixels

Classic Blue was way better than Green/Teal

[Bardp1999]

Op plays on green and he wants teal to merge? Lmao op is clearly a shit poster fire giant. Stfu kid. You prob don't even play here. Nice try trying to fuck every one else over with ur bullshit.

Closing this thread and banning another one of ops forum quest accounts.

Green feels dead also, 700 online, can't even find groups

the split was very very silly, 3 days after launch

DERR DER DDERR ERRRRrrrr

[turbosilk]

I don't see a merge being toxic at all

I wouldn't really say the competition on Teal is really competition. The 2 strongest guilds aren't competing with each other. It's a water downed version of what it could really be which would make the server much more vibrant if there was a merge

Each server is basically it's own league with the "champs" competing with second string teams. We don't really know how good Kingdom and Seal Team are if they aren't in direct competition with each other

It's like having the AFL and NFL as separate leagues with no Super Bowl

If there was a merge and these guilds got a chance to compete with each other, it would be interesting to see how the Alliance game played out in an effort to get ahead of each other

People want to be lazy with their pixels

Classic Blue was way better than Green/Teal

Classic Blue is a great example of a toxic raid environment over most of the years blue was in existence. It's already been played out on Blue. Time for a different way forward that I'm interested in seeing. The competitive live classic raiding experience I had wasn't the toxic blue raid scene of lawyerquest raiding, fraps, etc.

[wagorf]

I would rather ass chug gasoline than log into Blue

you cry about blue and now you cry about the new servers. you are just a whiny lil bitch who wants things your way

[TheDudeAbides]

Classic Blue is a great example of a toxic raid environment over most of the years blue was in existence. It's already been played out on Blue. Time for a different way forward that I'm interested in seeing. The competitive live classic raiding experience I had wasn't the toxic blue raid scene of lawyerquest raiding, fraps, etc.

Meh I disagree

The Raid scene differed back during Classic Era from server to server

Classic Blue was highly competitive and fun. I remember engaging Draco with a group and sustaining while stragglers logged on and winning while an opposing Raid Force sat there and watched

What we see now on the new servers is what AM did on the later years of Blue. Tag all potential competition and implement a raid credit system to keep people happy with crumbs. Massive zergs that just assimilate any potential threats to their supremacy

That's basically the template for both guilds on the new servers while never having to compete with each other

It's boring

One server with both of these guilds going head to head would be much more exciting, especially when the planes open

[Bardp1999]

you cry about blue and now you cry about the new servers. you are just a whiny lil bitch who wants things your way

I don't deny this accusation at all, I want to group and gain low-grade pixels (non-dragon) with pals online. Then I want to flaunt my low-grade pixels in front of noobies to make myself feel superior because my shitty items are better than their shitty items. Then I will PL them a bit to prove I can kil monsters better than they can, then I will give them some bronze armor and SoW myself into the sunset while they look on in awe.

[aaezil]

OP is mad/bad

[Mblake81]

toxicness

The language of depression.

https://i.imgur.com/zz3JlcR.jpg

[Fawqueue]

Meh I disagree

The Raid scene differed back during Classic Era from server to server

Classic Blue was highly competitive and fun. I remember engaging Draco with a group and sustaining while stragglers logged on and winning while an opposing Raid Force sat there and watched

What we see now on the new servers is what AM did on the later years of Blue. Tag all potential competition and implement a raid credit system to keep people happy with crumbs. Massive zergs that just assimilate any potential threats to their supremacy

That's basically the template for both guilds on the new servers while never having to compete with each other

It's boring

One server with both of these guilds going head to head would be much more exciting, especially when the planes open

Alternative perspective to consider: It's very rare on this project to have two equally viable guilds competing for raid mobs at one time. Even when there's competition, it's usually a scrappy upstart with a strong core, not a fully-capable second mega-guild that's just as geared and experienced as the top team. However, because of the Green/Teal split we are finally going to see that happen when the merge occurs. Two guilds, both geared out relatively uncontested in Classic, entrenched with loyal members who aren't going to so easily abandon ship, ready to duke it out in Kunark. We're setting up a far more interesting future now by letting Kingdom and Seal Team flourish early.

[Smellybuttface]

Alternative perspective to consider: It's very rare on this project to have two equally viable guilds competing for raid mobs at one time. Even when there's competition, it's usually a scrappy upstart with a strong core, not a fully-capable second mega-guild that's just as geared and experienced as the top team. However, because of the Green/Teal split we are finally going to see that happen when the merge occurs. Two guilds, both geared out relatively uncontested in Classic, entrenched with loyal members who aren't going to so easily abandon ship, ready to duke it out in Kunark. We're setting up a far more interesting future now by letting Kingdom and Seal Team flourish early.

The sexual tension between Seal Team and Kingdom is almost palpable.

[Tenderizer]

Teal was one the best decisions R and N have made. We now have two stable thriving servers with a little bit of elbow room.

I can't tell if these dissenters are deranged or trolling.

it was but how long would you plan for everyone to farm raid/camps/alts now that the servers have hit a wall. As for thriving, its alive and producingx2 but not Thriving in an mmo aspect. population numbers show that.

!00% trolling


HHK always jammed, LGuk always has the major camps taken, usually some groups in Sol B, and people doing FGs/Freeti all the time. Theres even usually a Kedge group for belts etc, although naturally nobody wants to level in that death trap.

hhk being jammed is a meta xp problem. couldnt get worse with a merge but other zones might get some love. lguk/solb/ect major camps done solo or groups regularly? and how are those camps around the clock with distribution and diversity of xp/loot, if any?

the longer the servers farm/exist the rougher a merge will be on economy,guilds and the end goal of these servers, imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9nFs2PeWw0

[Bazia]

Literally only people who don't want merge are kingd casuals enjoying free pixels. Teal is beyond fucking dead.

[Chocolope]

OP is an EU boomer

[Chocolope]

Literally only people who don't want merge are kingd casuals enjoying free pixels. Teal is beyond fucking dead.

the spectrum is strong with this one

[Zeboim]

Teal raid scene is in a pretty good place right now. Once Black Lotus and Lineage inevitably merge and stop being a fighter with two left feet, they're probably gonna start nabbing dragons from Kingdom.

[turbosilk]

Teal raid scene is in a pretty good place right now. Once Black Lotus and Lineage inevitably merge and stop being a fighter with two left feet, they're probably gonna start nabbing dragons from Kingdom.

They are already nabbing dragons.

[Zeboim]

FGs and Phinny are not dragons. Pretty sure they haven't actually gotten a Vox or Naggy kill yet.

[heyokah]

I'm only level 24, but every group I have been in I had to build myself. Green does "feel" a little barren because everyone flocks to the high ZEM zones and never leave I guess.

[Kohedron]

Merging servers is just going to double the wait time in HHK

EQ is too obvious after 20 years of doing it

[Evets]

I haven't had a problem leveling on teal.. finding groups making friends and also solo(or duo) spots... 40+ guk, solb, hhk, spectres, kedge ect.. it also helps if you are in an active guild with players your level.

[Llandris]

To merge or not to merge

[Lhord99]

They merge. # of 50s doubles. Economy goes haywire for a few. People get frustrated, move to blue again. Kunark drops. MBlake, Valeriya, Nirgon start their “Blue cuck” bs again. 2k on at peaks; people call for split. Rinse, wash, repeat.

[Scratch&Sniff]

500-600 is perfect dont merge

[Cecily]

To merge or not to merge

Do it

[DMN]

To merge or not to merge

Y'all should've listened to me. Don't split, but if you do, make sure to remerge within 2 weeks.

But noooooooooo.

[TheDudeAbides]

Alternative perspective to consider: It's very rare on this project to have two equally viable guilds competing for raid mobs at one time. Even when there's competition, it's usually a scrappy upstart with a strong core, not a fully-capable second mega-guild that's just as geared and experienced as the top team. However, because of the Green/Teal split we are finally going to see that happen when the merge occurs. Two guilds, both geared out relatively uncontested in Classic, entrenched with loyal members who aren't going to so easily abandon ship, ready to duke it out in Kunark. We're setting up a far more interesting future now by letting Kingdom and Seal Team flourish early.

I can get behind this sentiment

Though I will say loyalty will only go so far if one the top teams is clearly winning and denying the other mega guild lots of pixels

When the servers do merge someone should host the first contested raid as a PPV event on Twitch

[Albanwr]

To merge or not to merge

no

[Darkfuneral]

I prefer to have population

[aaezil]

Loyalty means nothing when bis pixels are on the line, just watch these losers go

[Tilien]

Guild loyalty will mean little when one side offers the other's clerics free gear to switch sides. Once one side has few support roles the rest of the guild will jump ship or push for a merge.

[Zeboim]

placing my loyalty bid at 2 manastones and 3 rubi bp pst

[Champion_Standing]

Every time someone petitions over a raid mob or a camp start a new server until everyone has their own box.

[Aeaolena]

To merge or not to merge

Pls god no.

The only people who want a merge are green, because they don't know what it's like to have a server with a low asshole-ratio. I don't feel the server is underpopulated.

[shuklak]

Pls god no.

The only people who want a merge are green, because they don't know what it's like to have a server with a low asshole-ratio. I don't feel the server is underpopulated.

It's hard to think forum questers, and RnF in particular, do not want a merge.

[zodium]

can't believe i'm being forced to post in rants and flames but the fact this thread was posted in this absolute dogshit forum that shames its denizens every single day at all should tell you all you need to know about the merits of this proposal, thank you and hjail satan

[Kanuvan]

why the fuck is this rants and flames when its 100% true? i basically quit green because its a sola/hhk simulator because thats the only zones with people, i guess its great for those 10 neckbeard poopsockers who dont have much competetion on manastones but for the other 1000 its really degrading the experience, and blue was way more fun in its heyday than green ever was

[Kanuvan]

the ec tunnels is also a trash expereince on both servers, the economy yet again is basically boiling down to 2 neckbeards spamming their 8 macro's full of overpriced goods whill geting its extremely rare you will see something actually worth buying due to low playercount

[Aartz]

Weeeeee let teal and green burn!!!!!

BLUE shall rule once again!!! MUYAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[Darkfuneral]

Weeeeee let teal and green burn!!!!!

BLUE shall rule once again!!! MUYAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

People still play Blue??????? :confused:

[Darkfuneral]

can't believe i'm being forced to post in rants and flames but the fact this thread was posted in this absolute dogshit forum that shames its denizens every single day at all should tell you all you need to know about the merits of this proposal, thank you and hjail satan

Do you really have max level toons on every server?

[Mil]

As for leveling you'd just go from having trouble finding groups cause no one is LFG or looking for more people for their group in 40+ zones to all the 40+ zones being crowded and not being able to find groups cause everything is camped.

At least now you can form your own group and go somewhere to XP fairly easily.

No doubt. It's been the same complaint for a decade on Blue. If you do just a little more than /shout LFG at the zonelines, you can find plenty of fun exp groups.

[Tenderizer]

800 people around prime time seems lower than it was on live.

[El-Hefe]

People who want the servers to merge own a cloth handkerchief that they blow their nose into and then put back in their pocket.

[Fawqueue]

800 people around prime time seems lower than it was on live.

It is. I swear Live was closer to 1500+, but it was kind of a nightmare. I remember having to do terrible XP groups, like Lake Rathe Gnolls. I don't want any of us to re-experience that nonsense.

[Tecmos Deception]

It is. I swear Live was closer to 1500+, but it was kind of a nightmare. I remember having to do terrible XP groups, like Lake Rathe Gnolls. I don't want any of us to re-experience that nonsense.

I know Saryrn would be up around 1500 in the days before they removed the player count on the server select screen, and it was one of the smallest servers. I don't know what it was in classic though, cause I didn't start until Kunark was out.

[El-Hefe]

People who want the server to merge hold their pencil like this when they write:

https://i.imgur.com/CkLZAtK.jpg

[Horza]

800 people around prime time seems lower than it was on live.

Live servers definitely had a much higher population than either Green or Teal.

[Tenderizer]

People who want the servers to merge own a cloth handkerchief that they blow their nose into and then put back in their pocket.

so a boomer?

[HandOfFate]

TEAL is almost perfect! Get out of here with that BS.

[razzdazz2]

why does everyone want to merge before all content/ player pop surges are done? what we are going to merge then kunark comes out and split the servers again? is green that bad that you want a ride off? lol

[Darkfuneral]

#Population

[thesoundofmerk]

Alternative perspective to consider: It's very rare on this project to have two equally viable guilds competing for raid mobs at one time. Even when there's competition, it's usually a scrappy upstart with a strong core, not a fully-capable second mega-guild that's just as geared and experienced as the top team. However, because of the Green/Teal split we are finally going to see that happen when the merge occurs. Two guilds, both geared out relatively uncontested in Classic, entrenched with loyal members who aren't going to so easily abandon ship, ready to duke it out in Kunark. We're setting up a far more interesting future now by letting Kingdom and Seal Team flourish early.

i COULD NOT AGREE MORE! It is going to be awesome to see this, its like two dimensions colliding.

[plasma1010]

Merge every server into Red, then everyone can kill each other and that would be fun

[sedrie.bellamie]

Consider blue

consider the lilies in the field

[saftbudet]

Level 40+ on Green is an absolute ghost land outside of HHK, I'm sure teal is the exact same way. The servers are running at like 300-600 people... Blue was successful because it had an awesome population and the Norrath felt full. If you don't merge the servers soon you are going to do permanent damage to the player base because its just shedding people by droves at this point.

I think your spot on! Gonna be ghost servers soon if not.
Cool idea for two servers, it didn't work out well, merge back into Green please

[Kanuvan]

i quit untill the full potential of green is utilized, this is just sad having no choice but to play on a low pop server, fuse the servers or atleast give teal players a chance to go back to green

[Nirgon]

People who want the server to merge hold their pencil like this when they write:

https://i.imgur.com/CkLZAtK.jpg

Good post

[shuklak]

Merge every server into Red, then everyone can kill each other and that would be fun

Might as well merge with Pantheon pre beta alpha phase 2 of 7+.