Proper Etiquette When Getting a Port

[dozkyn]

As an independent porter I would like to spread some knowledge when asking for ports from working porters in Norrath.

1. If you are a low lvl and have no money don't ask for a port. Go lvl like the rest of us did.

2. A good donation is 1p per lvl. If you are on a CR it's always free. If you don't have plat go make more plat before you ask for a port. Items worth plat are also welcomed. A lot of porters sit in EC selling their shit.

3. When sending a tell for a port always say where you are and where you wanna go. For example "NK to Tox?" You don't have to ask how I'm doing or if I'm working. Get to the point. Never say "can I get a port to NK" I have no idea where you are I've been porting around all night I don't have time to do a /w all "name" just to find you are anon.

4. If you ask for a port please be near the respectable wiz spire or druid circle. If not state that you are far away. Please be knowledgeable about what class can port where. Search p99 travel guide if you don't know.

5. We will not run outside of the spires or rings to come find you. Sorry. If you want a service like this be prepared to spend 100p+ ie permafrost, qeynos etc.

All I can think of atm please add to this list as needed.

[Vallaen]

6. You are a douche with number 1 and 2.

[dozkyn]

6. You are a douche with number 1 and 2.

People frequently ask me what a good donation is and that's what i tell them. You're a douche

[Vallaen]

You tell them they are a douche? that's a weird response.

You are a class that can port and if you are taking port requests you are generally doing nothing anyways. Why not help a lowbie get to his friends? It only takes sitting down for a couple seconds to regen the mana. It costs you nothing but mana to port.

Also a good donation is 1pp per level? why not just go by whatever they are able to spare atm since as a porter you are going to make bank anyways.

[dozkyn]

You tell them they are a douche? that's a weird response.

You are a class that can port and if you are taking port requests you are generally doing nothing anyways. Why not help a lowbie get to his friends? It only takes sitting down for a couple seconds to regen the mana. It costs you nothing but mana to port.

Also a good donation is 1pp per level? why not just go by whatever they are able to spare atm since as a porter you are going to make bank anyways.

Go away

[Vallaen]

Start a porter union

[Tecmos Deception]

CR is free even though the person needing a port was almost certainly bound near a bank, but noobs can't get a port?

And you're taking a moral high ground on the "in my day we had to walk up hill both ways" thing? Lol.

And your time is too valuable to type for 1.5 seconds to do a who while you're just sitting around medding or waiting on auctions or watching dots tick?

Wtf man? Even I'm (usually) less of a prick than you are.

[dozkyn]

CR is free even though the person needing a port was almost certainly bound near a bank, but noobs can't get a port?

And you're taking a moral high ground on the "in my day we had to walk up hill both ways" thing? Lol.

And your time is too valuable to type for 1.5 seconds to do a who while you're just sitting around medding or waiting on auctions or watching dots tick?

Wtf man?

It gets busy during peak hours, tell hell

[dozkyn]

CR is free even though the person needing a port was almost certainly bound near a bank, but noobs can't get a port?

And you're taking a moral high ground on the "in my day we had to walk up hill both ways" thing? Lol.

And your time is too valuable to type for 1.5 seconds to do a who while you're just sitting around medding or waiting on auctions or watching dots tick?

Wtf man? Even I'm (usually) less of a prick than you are.

Guys this isn't RNF read it and move on

[dozkyn]

CR is free even though the person needing a port was almost certainly bound near a bank, but noobs can't get a port?

And you're taking a moral high ground on the "in my day we had to walk up hill both ways" thing? Lol.

And your time is too valuable to type for 1.5 seconds to do a who while you're just sitting around medding or waiting on auctions or watching dots tick?

Wtf man? Even I'm (usually) less of a prick than you are.

Look I'm not saying this is an in stone thing and I don't port newbs every day for free. This is just the mind of some of us business minded porters and a lot of new people don't know how it works

[dozkyn]

CR is free even though the person needing a port was almost certainly bound near a bank, but noobs can't get a port?

And you're taking a moral high ground on the "in my day we had to walk up hill both ways" thing? Lol.

And your time is too valuable to type for 1.5 seconds to do a who while you're just sitting around medding or waiting on auctions or watching dots tick?

Wtf man? Even I'm (usually) less of a prick than you are.

I'm not out here saying no to people or charging anyone, this is the mind of a porter. Go to RNF and waste your life over there

[Tecmos Deception]

A QUADRUPLE reply? You sure we aren't in rnf?

[Toothed]

1. Simply not true. If you're low level and need a port it's in your best interest to ask for one as travel is dangerous. If you are a porter you get paid enough to help out lowbies too.

2. A good donation is what someone can best afford, even if that number is not always 'best' for the porter. Everyone you help out raises your reputation. Your tips are dependent on your reputation plus your level of service. More on this later.

3. While not a bad point where you're coming from is. As a porter it's your job to provide a service. Being friendly and asking someone where they are headed and where from is part of the customers experience. Being friendly here gets you better tips.

4/5. If you're not willing to travel you're shooting your potential profits in the foot. Not only in time lost waiting for people to run to you without a sow. But again porting is a service. If the customer doesn't get extra cheese and peppers packets they will not tip as much.

Bottom line is if you need a port ask someone will help you even if you're flat broke. A tip is as always what one can afford/feels like is deserved. Make the experience fast and easy and your tips will be good. And more than make up for the others who are not as generous. If you have time to write this up you have time to travel, /who, and be polite. I feel this is all common sense and anyone who knows it feels good to help other people out understand all this already...

[PDX0621]

Back in the day on Blue I used to provide in flight snacks and entertainment, and even did a pickup in PoF once. Price was always whatever people felt like paying. Got burned a few times, added those people to a "Do Not Port" list and moved on. Also received more than my fair share of extremely generous donations and/or items for compensation. Reputation plays a fairly large role, and even being a part of DaP I had several dozen regulars who'd seek me out specifically. I think you may find yourself richer in the long run adopting a similar strategy above. But, they're your ports, you make the call.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

OP what is your name so that players new and old will know who to avoid.

[Tethler]

business minded porters

Found the problem here

[TheDudeAbides]

5 gold per lvl

10pp minimum

That's pretty much the standard

[dozkyn]

1. Simply not true. If you're low level and need a port it's in your best interest to ask for one as travel is dangerous. If you are a porter you get paid enough to help out lowbies too.

2. A good donation is what someone can best afford, even if that number is not always 'best' for the porter. Everyone you help out raises your reputation. Your tips are dependent on your reputation plus your level of service. More on this later.

3. While not a bad point where you're coming from is. As a porter it's your job to provide a service. Being friendly and asking someone where they are headed and where from is part of the customers experience. Being friendly here gets you better tips.

4/5. If you're not willing to travel you're shooting your potential profits in the foot. Not only in time lost waiting for people to run to you without a sow. But again porting is a service. If the customer doesn't get extra cheese and peppers packets they will not tip as much.

Bottom line is if you need a port ask someone will help you even if you're flat broke. A tip is as always what one can afford/feels like is deserved. Make the experience fast and easy and your tips will be good. And more than make up for the others who are not as generous. If you have time to write this up you have time to travel, /who, and be polite. I feel this is all common sense and anyone who knows it feels good to help other people out understand all this already...

This is good info. I come off as an asshole but this is how i really operate bc of good business practices, but felt like things needed to be aired out. Thank you for your feedback!

[dozkyn]

Also not trying to fan these flames but if your server has no DAP'ers there is probably an issue with some of my main points

[jackd104]

Dear server: not all porters are so uptight. Don’t let this intimidate you from asking for ports. I am flexible on donations and protocol and enjoy helping people travel.

[Tethler]

Also not trying to fan these flames but if your server has no DAP'ers there is probably an issue with some of my main points

If you're dictating minimums and saying that lowbies shouldn't get ports, are you actually in DaP? When I was a member years ago, this was explicitly against DaP policy.

[dozkyn]

If you're dictating minimums and saying that lowbies shouldn't get ports, are you actually in DaP? When I was a member years ago, this was explicitly against DaP policy.

Ok buddy. never said i was in dap and never said i dictated any prices. These are recommended prices that I used to pay when I asked for ports

[Tethler]

Ok buddy. never said i was in dap

Then why are you bringing up DaP?

never said i dictated any prices

1. If you are a low lvl and have no money don't ask for a port. Go lvl like the rest of us did.

2. A good donation is 1p per lvl. If you are on a CR it's always free. If you don't have plat go make more plat before you ask for a port.

:confused::confused:

^this is dictating prices. If you want to do that, go for it, but don't try to spin it like it's something else lol.

If you just include your pricing requirements in your advertising message, this problem solves itself, yes?

[dozkyn]

Then why are you bringing up DaP?





:confused::confused:

^this is dictating prices. If you want to do that, go for it, but don't try to spin it like it's something else lol.

If you just include your pricing requirements in your advertising message, this problem solves itself, yes?

twist it how you want my friend

[Fawqueue]

I agree with dozkyn on #1. Time is valuable, and asking a stranger to give up theirs to port you, so that you don't have to spend yours running is just selfish. Either pay them for their time, or expect you are saving money by spending time running.

[Siege]

The onus should be on the porter to set a price upfront. Asking for donations is just a passive-aggressive way of telling people you expect to be paid. Might as well set a price and be done with it. That's how I've always done it, and I've never had a complaint.

[stewe]

Simple solution, on my wiz i am always anon and when i am not i completely ignore tells for a port if the person is wanting a free ride for CR etc, i got better things to do, like go afk between kills while i do RL stuff

[Squidronius]

I had heard that .5 plat per level was standard for green since there's less platinum in circulation so as I've been running around Norrath rezzing people I just send a tell asking if someone would be willing to port me for 30 plat and just multiply that by 2-4 if I can't meet them in zone. As far as I can tell it hasn't made me any enemies since the same people have been willing to port me time and again.

[ChairmanMauzer]

Dial a Daniel charges nothing to port to people and tell them they're ugly.

[Phaezed-Reality]

if im paying 500pp for a port u better shut up and take my money along with any insults.

[mcoy]

I feel like this guy should make a cleric...

-Mcoy

[mattermage]

If you are reading this thread trying to learn what is normal and expected, I want you to know that while there are plenty of business minded porters out there like the OP, there are also many community-building porters, some of whom have chimed in here.

There really isn't a norm across the board; until you've met many druids and wizards, it's luck of the draw on the personality of the porter you sent a /tell to, and what they're current disposition is. Don't get upset if they are expecting your level 4 toon to put down 10pp and you've never seen that much plat in your life. Just thank them for their time and move on. If they're bitter, just move on. You might have better luck with someone else, or taking OP's advice which is wait and find ways to build up plat. But more often than not you will get lucky with a porter who wants to help you out.

When I'm sitting around bored, I'll often offer to port folks for free (tho most folks will donate even if I didn't ask). I never worry about the time it's costing me in these situations, because I wasn't really using that time effectively anyway and it's nice to meet new folks. I know many others who feel similarly. One of the reasons we rolled classes that can port is to help folks out, often because others have helped us out in a similar manner in the past. Of course some people rolled porters for the prospect of making extra $$, and we should respect that perfectly valid reason as well.

When I'm logged in and preoccupied, usually you'll have to offer a bunch of platinum to get me to help you out. More often I'll just decline. It really depends on the situation. I'll never /ignore you or put you on some negative list just because you asked.

Find porters who work well for you and remember them. Send them extra plat when you can, and don't feel bad when you can't. If they're clearly in it for the business/cash (e.g. many members of Dial a Port), be prepared to treat it as a business transaction where you are expected to carry your own weight (then see OP's original guidelines for help)

Hope this helps.

[dspity]

At level 50 I get dozens and dozens of /tells a day for ports.

If you don't have a lot of money I don't care, just say you're broke before I evac to sro to pick you up. I'll just wait until i got a spare min, or wait for another repop of whatever I'm camping. Paying customers always get priority.

I do agree with OP if you're going to ask for a port tell me where you are at. Its annoying to do a /who and you're anon, and or you have a stupid name thats hard to type /who all Illillaniaill. Or you just "/tell Can i get a port", and I got to play sherlock holmes to figure it out.

Need a port? Try these.

/t NAME Got time for a port from SRO to NK? I can tip x plat and ill be at spire/rings in 2 mins.

/t NAME Got time for a port from WK to SRO? I'm naked on a corpse run to LGUK.


Don't have me waiting 10 minutes for you. Most of the time I'm bound somewhere weird and need to gate back to my camp as quickly as possible.

[Fawqueue]

At level 50 I get dozens and dozens of /tells a day for ports.

If you don't have a lot of money I don't care, just say you're broke before I evac to sro to pick you up. I'll just wait until i got a spare min, or wait for another repop of whatever I'm camping. Paying customers always get priority.

I do agree with OP if you're going to ask for a port tell me where you are at. Its annoying to do a /who and you're anon, and or you have a stupid name thats hard to type /who all Illillaniaill. Or you just "/tell Can i get a port", and I got to play sherlock holmes to figure it out.

Need a port? Try these.

/t NAME Got time for a port from SRO to NK? I can tip x plat and ill be at spire/rings in 2 mins.

/t NAME Got time for a port from WK to SRO? I'm naked on a corpse run to LGUK.


Don't have me waiting 10 minutes for you. Most of the time I'm bound somewhere weird and need to gate back to my camp as quickly as possible.

Careful now...you are getting dangerously close to having reasonable expectations on your time and energy while trying to enjoy yourself. Reading some of the comments in this thread, you'd believe the reason you put the time in was to taxi lazy people around all day for absolutely no gain.

[TripSin]

Careful now...you are getting dangerously close to having reasonable expectations on your time and energy while trying to enjoy yourself. Reading some of the comments in this thread, you'd believe the reason you put the time in was to taxi lazy people around all day for absolutely no gain.

It's totally your prerogative to not port lowbies if you don't want, but it doesn't change the fact that you're being a jerk for no good reason in doing so. I do think a person should have to do a boat ride at least once in their life though for the experience, but most people coming to P99 probably already have when the game was live.

I haven't played on Blue but from what I've read it sounds like the 1pp/level custom was a Blue thing and from what I've read Blue has had extreme plat inflation and so 1pp/level might not be exactly reasonable yet on Green/Teal yet. I think if it bothers you that you should just tell people how much you want for porting them.

"Time and energy while trying to enjoy yourself?" You're pressing a button to cast a spell dude. It's not that much work. Also, no one is forcing you to port anyone. Please show me where in any P99 policy it says that you have to port people.

[Fawqueue]

"Time and energy while trying to enjoy yourself?" You're pressing a button to cast a spell dude. It's not that much work. Also, no one is forcing you to port anyone. Please show me where in any P99 policy it says that you have to port people.

Not quite just pressing a button, at least not in every case. If I was already at a ring/spire, and about to port someone else when a lowbie asked for a lift to the same destination I'd do it for free every time. But if I'm being asked to stop what I'm currently doing, spend the mana and time to port to their location and then their destination, and not get paid? Get out of here with that noise.

And mind you, I'm aware that you are referencing one extreme while I am looking at the other, and there's plenty of middle there where it becomes very circumstantial.

[TripSin]

But if I'm being asked to stop what I'm currently doing, spend the mana and time to port to their location and then their destination, and not get paid? Get out of here with that noise.


Yeah, I would not expect you to do that and would expect you to tell them you're busy - newbie or not. I was thinking of the situation where someone is already just dedicating some time to porting. I never just send tells to random people asking them for ports. I'll ask for porters in OOC or /who all dial

[dspity]

And your time is too valuable to type for 1.5 seconds to do a who while you're just sitting around medding or waiting on auctions or watching dots tick?

At least 50% of my /tells for ports is a guy going "/t Morsel can I get a port to gfay." They are anon, and they have a stupid name to type, while I'm kiting something, and they are in a different zone. When they can just /tell Morsel can I get a port from nk to gfay? Trust me, its sounds like a non issue, but it's frustrating playing sherlock holmes with some people. This is all happening while in /tell hell with 3 other people.

[Tethler]

At least 50% of my /tells for ports is a guy going "/t Morsel can I get a port to gfay." They are anon, and they have a stupid name to type, while I'm kiting something, and they are in a different zone. When they can just /tell Morsel can I get a port from nk to gfay? Trust me, its sounds like a non issue, but it's frustrating playing sherlock holmes with some people. This is all happening while in /tell hell with 3 other people.

You don't need to type their name. Just press "r".

[dspity]

You don't need to type their name. Just press "r".

/r who all?

[Tethler]

/r who all?

/r from where?

[Hazek]

Yo I need a port dont have any plat

[gprater]

until the porter states a price in their /ooc spam message that they are porting people, then the person that gets the port should set the price. If the porter thinks its too low then they should reject the payment and I will give my plat to the next druid in line. As a porter, I was grateful for any payment i got, and if i thought the customer was light in their donations i simply did not port them again.

[plzrelax]

I don’t think this has been mentioned yet, but here’s a tip for new porters out there:

Use tell windows!!

[Swish]

This is just the mind of some of us business minded porters...

That's a hell of a line.

Make sure you have fun when you're playing games online everyone <3

[Clumpoid]

Those noobs will remember you when they level up. Kindness has a way of repaying itself in the long run.

[Tuurin]

These arguments always seem /eyeroll to me. The large majority of the p99 community supposedly think QoL improvements like PoK books, Soulbinders, etc were what killed the fun and challenge of eq, yet think you should be able to roll an ERU, dial up the gamma to he can see at night, get relocated for free to any other newb zone he chooses, bound for free once he gets there, etc.

[Frug]

Sweet Jesus what's what's your char name so I can make sure I'd rather camp than use you for porting?

(And I'm an old DaP'er from blue... this is nuts.)

[Shanetarin]

/r from where?

Hit ‘r’ to bring up /tell Illiianillilla then replace /tell with /who all

Disclaimer: no Illiianillilla‘s were harmed in the making of this post

[aaezil]

Nobody cares about your list of made up rules man

[dspity]

Hit ‘r’ to bring up /tell Illiianillilla then replace /tell with /who all

Disclaimer: no Illiianillilla‘s were harmed in the making of this post

Or the person needing a port can just type a complete sentence. Too much work for a afk wizard.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Anyone know the name of OP's toon? PM me if so.

[zodium]

i pay 1pp per spell level of the port. if i can't afford or won't pay that, i hoof it.

hearty lmao at all the people itt who apparently feel entitled to porters' time

[Smellybuttface]

There seems to be a need for a sliding scale here. A level 50 might very easily be able to drop 50 plat without a problem, but a level 10 is likely hard pressed to pull 10 plat out of their ass unless they’ve gotten very lucky with cracked staves.

Secondly, how big a problem is any of this? Does it really cause enough grief to make a rant/flame masked as a condescending “Friendly FYI!”?

[zodium]

There seems to be a need for a sliding scale here. A level 50 might very easily be able to drop 50 plat without a problem, but a level 10 is likely hard pressed to pull 10 plat out of their ass unless they’ve gotten very lucky with cracked staves.

Secondly, how big a problem is any of this? Does it really cause enough grief to make a rant/flame masked as a condescending “Friendly FYI!”?

i don't port for money but as for the rest, if it's anything like blue it is absolutely that bad, yes. even experienced level 60 raiders struggle very seriously with notions like "the porter needs to know what zone I am in to port me."

[Tuljin]

10-15 pp is very fair, 25+ is quite generous. A level 50 with some plat will tip you well, if a level 10 gives you 3pp that is fine. Porters are banking hard on Green sever and it all adds up. There's no way most people in their 30s will be tipping 30 something plat every time they need a ride and they really shouldn't.

If you need a port make sure you get to the spire/circle or you are already on the way. Unfortunately many people not only lack basic courtesy on P99 they also have a lack of general communication skills as well as a tenuous command of the English language. Communicating clearly with where you are and where you want to go is a lot to ask lol

[BlackBellamy]

I am a professional porter on Teal. I will port you for any amount of money. If you ask me this is what I tell you “It’s usually 1p per level for rich people, whatever for everyone else.” If I can I will run to meet you places. I provide sow, binds, whatever buffs you need.

I will prioritize paid ports over free CR but once I’m done I’ll get you no charge. If you are a non-twinked lowbie and are nice I will port you to BB so you can play with your friends also for free.

I can earn more or equivalent plat farming or camping stuff. I port because it’s fun and I make friends and I feel like I’m part of the community. I’m not going to set onerous rules or demand anything from my customers.

[Videri]

1. If you are a low lvl and have no money don't ask for a port. Go lvl like the rest of us did.

I really agree with this. I think people have been spoiled by playing on Blue or even Live. By the time a player gets to level 15 or 20, they should be able to afford a couple ports. People should avoid porting all over Norrath...just try the nearest 1-3 exp zones. Porting all over in search of the perfect exp spot is a waste.

2. A good donation is 1p per lvl. If you are on a CR it's always free. If you don't have plat go make more plat before you ask for a port. Items worth plat are also welcomed. A lot of porters sit in EC selling their shit.

I think we might have to go down to half a plat (5 gold) per level for Green/Teal, but at some point the server will outgrow that phase and we'll be back to the 1-plat-per-level standard that is already established on Blue.

It is also OK for a porter to state their rates in their /ooc advertising message. If people don't like the rate offered, they can opt not to employ that porter.

3. When sending a tell for a port always say where you are and where you wanna go. For example "NK to Tox?" You don't have to ask how I'm doing or if I'm working. Get to the point. Never say "can I get a port to NK" I have no idea where you are I've been porting around all night I don't have time to do a /w all "name" just to find you are anon.

This also makes things faster for the person asking for a port. I'm not sure why people would be mad about this one. It would benefit everyone involved.

[Videri]

We must not claim that it is greedy for porters to expect tips for ports because it is equally greedy for people to expect free ports. I'm not sure why people can't see that this is a reciprocal exchange.

"It just costs you mana." / "It just costs you time to run, wait for a boat, and run some more." Every player's time must be valued equally. And if another player saves/gains you time, you should compensate them.

[TripSin]

We must not claim that it is greedy for porters to expect tips for ports because it is equally greedy for people to expect free ports. I'm not sure why people can't see that this is a reciprocal exchange.

"It just costs you mana." / "It just costs you time to run, wait for a boat, and run some more." Every player's time must be valued equally. And if another player saves/gains you time, you should compensate them.

It was only said it's greedy when expecting it from untwinked newbies who literally can't afford to pay. If you're already dedicating some time to porting people and you are currently doing a port you may as well help them out by pressing a couple buttons to port them.

If you are mad because you aren't getting as much money as you would like from donations then simply set an asking price.

[zodium]

It was only said it's greedy when expecting it from untwinked newbies who literally can't afford to pay. If you're already dedicating some time to porting people and you are currently doing a port you may as well help them out by pressing a couple buttons to port them.

If you are mad because you aren't getting as much money as you would like from donations then simply set an asking price.

that's what the OP is lmao

[larsbars]

I’ve noticed on teal and green porting feels different and posts like this really reinforce my hypothesis. In general the idea of “donating” for ports is currently bullshit. People are selling ports. For this reason I always ask “can you port me from x to y for z plat?”

[Somekid123]

My in game druid is Andain, if im not at a camp i'd rather not lose or otherwise occupied pelase send me a tell for a port. Lowbies/Cr's are always free, nor is a tip required if your hurtin for money :)

[DropxDeadxFred]

Your a scrub everyone has druids

[Scratch&Sniff]

OP is a bad porter

[Fawqueue]

My in game druid is Andain, if im not at a camp i'd rather not lose or otherwise occupied pelase send me a tell for a port. Lowbies/Cr's are always free, nor is a tip required if your hurtin for money :)

Way to step up Andain. Now the lowbies and freeloaders know who to turn to, so no more reason to worry or complain about it. Looks like you just solved the thread!

[Hazek]

CR's should be free.
Lowbies should be free or whatever they're willing to donate but don't require.
15+ should be at least 10p or 1p per level.

If you need a port beyond that then offer 20+ or 1p per level.

[TheDudeAbides]

25PP for a port when you're lvl 50 is fine in Classic

50PP for a port? With Teal's Economy?

I understand people want to make money, but that's a bit excessive

Rule of thumb has always been .5 Plat per lvl or 5G per lvl (Minimum 10PP for a port)

So if you're lvl 30 you're tipping 15PP for a port which is right for that lvl range, especially if you're starting from scratch and barely covering costs for gear/spells

OP mindset is still fixated on a Blue mudflated economy

[silo32]

6. You are a douche with number 1 and 2.

Shut up

[silo32]

Lots of people in here mad you won't drive miss daisy around for free all day all of u kids stfu if u dont like what op said...


Walk or make a port class


Fuk off with your takes 2 sec to med for a port n time. Srsly fuk off u ungrateful bitches

[silo32]

The bus inst free... Gas isn't free... My time isn't free. Go kill a mob and pay for a port or walk. If u wanna save tons of time out of ur day... Buy a port. This isn't welfare ports

[Smellybuttface]

The bus inst free... Gas isn't free... My time isn't free. Go kill a mob and pay for a port or walk. If u wanna save tons of time out of ur day... Buy a port. This isn't welfare ports

You're an angry Fire Giant.

[TheDudeAbides]

The bus inst free... Gas isn't free... My time isn't free. Go kill a mob and pay for a port or walk. If u wanna save tons of time out of ur day... Buy a port. This isn't welfare ports

You sound like who someone got ahead off of Race/Class privilege

Someone has to port all the poor players lining EC Tunnel with their used needles and feces

[El-Hefe]

I got no problem porting newbies and monks for free. A lot of 1 - 20 paths suck for Plat and it’s the kind of help I’d really appreciate if I was new. Additionally being a monk has it’s own plat based challenges. Just be sure to ask if it’s cool before I come to get you.

Corpse runs are always free.

After level 20, somewhere around twenty plat is fair. More if you’re near max level and even more than that if you’re in the top dog guild on the server.

I can’t believe these people sweating something you can do semi-afk with very little effort. Yeesh.

My wife’s druid is 28 on Teal. So don’t worry, poor ass newbies and dead dudes. Cool porters are incoming.

Fluxxx has been my dude for ports on Teal if anyone needs a recommendation.

[silo32]

You sound like who someone got ahead off of Race/Class privilege

Someone has to port all the poor players lining EC Tunnel with their used needles and feces

This actually made me laugh out loud.

Why do people feel like its a service to port people at there leisure?

Why is it when i tip for a 90 rez its always 100plat or more?

Because i value ur time saving me more time.


Lmao at u all crying over 10 or 20 plat to save an hour or more of travel.

Sad lot most of u are.

Imagine if there were no ports... Or rez?

This is a luxury not a welfair

[TripSin]

Lots of people in here mad you won't drive miss daisy around for free all day all of u kids stfu if u dont like what op said...


Walk or make a port class


Fuk off with your takes 2 sec to med for a port n time. Srsly fuk off u ungrateful bitches

I get that you're frustrated because sadly a lot of people who play p99, in addition to having very autistic tendencies and piss poor communication skills, are also very selfish and greedy. However, you're just as stupid if you don't just set an asking price if you are not satisfied with the donations you're getting.

[TripSin]

I’ve noticed on teal and green porting feels different and posts like this really reinforce my hypothesis. In general the idea of “donating” for ports is currently bullshit. People are selling ports. For this reason I always ask “can you port me from x to y for z plat?”

I went through a period of asking my porters how much they would like, but it was like pulling teeth trying to get an answer from them (which I never got - it always ended up being something along the lines of "whatever you feel like giving"). Perhaps this was because I was asking Dial A Porters and I think maybe they have a no-charge policy? idk, but i wasn't getting answers so I just stopped asking.

[Smellybuttface]

I got no problem porting newbies and monks for free. A lot of 1 - 20 paths suck for Plat and it’s the kind of help I’d really appreciate if I was new. Additionally being a monk has it’s own plat based challenges. Just be sure to ask if it’s cool before I come to get you.

Corpse runs are always free.

After level 20, somewhere around twenty plat is fair. More if you’re near max level and even more than that if you’re in the top dog guild on the server.

I can’t believe these people sweating something you can do semi-afk with very little effort. Yeesh.

My wife’s druid is 28 on Teal. So don’t worry, poor ass newbies and dead dudes. Cool porters are incoming.

Fluxxx has been my dude for ports on Teal if anyone needs a recommendation.

I can second Fluxxx being a stand up porter. Dial a Port Wizzie that’s worth a good donation and will port with courtesy.

[xpolkx]

I view being a porter like I do as a bartender in a restaurant. It's all tips, I'm happy when I get them and dont complain when I don't. Yeah sometimes it sucks but sometimes it's great. I tell new people in my field this all the time. It's a game of luck and if you dont like it than it probably just isnt for you.

[cd288]

This has to be a fake troll thread right? Nobody can be this much of an out of touch, idiotic prick can they?

[TripSin]

This has to be a fake troll thread right? Nobody can be this much of an out of touch, idiotic prick can they?

You must play on a different server than I do because I meet said type of ridiculous persons fairly regularly. A lot of the time they have the same <Guild> after their name.

[zodium]

maybe in fact it's the people who feel like they're entitled to other people's time in a video game (because taking a BOAT is clearly beneath them) who are ridiculous

[Kanuvan]

im a monk, i hold 3 plat at best or worse

[zodium]

im a monk, i hold 3 plat at best or worse

they're called gems, carry them

[appliedspatial]

We must not claim that it is greedy for porters to expect tips for ports because it is equally greedy for people to expect free ports. I'm not sure why people can't see that this is a reciprocal exchange.

"It just costs you mana." / "It just costs you time to run, wait for a boat, and run some more." Every player's time must be valued equally. And if another player saves/gains you time, you should compensate them.


/thread

OP is providing valuable information, albeit with a seemingly angry delivery. These types of services weren't available on my server back in the day and could be foreign to folks just getting back into the game.

I like the idea of including how much plat you're going to give the porter in your initial tell but, if you're like me, the amount I tip varies based on the overall experience I had with the porter, i.e gratuity.

[TheDudeAbides]

/thread

OP is providing valuable information, albeit with a seemingly angry delivery. These types of services weren't available on my server back in the day and could be foreign to folks just getting back into the game.

Maybe Dolalin can find an obscure forum post somewhere that shows Druids and Wizards didn't get port spells until the October 1999 era

Problem solved

[Nomadic Plainswalker]

1p per level seems very expensive. Currently lvl 21 Ranger and have maybe 200-300 plat. So 10% of my gross for a single port? No TY.

[Fawqueue]

1p per level seems very expensive. Currently lvl 21 Ranger and have maybe 200-300 plat. So 10% of my gross for a single port? No TY.

I think most porters are happy with getting what you can comfortably afford. I'd rather get a little something, rather than a smile and a wave.

[PabloEdvardo]

On cleric, I grinded 49 lvls to get 90% rez just to have people offering 10-50pp on average as a tip.

Meanwhile, druids complaining about not getting 25-50pp for spells they can cast starting at lvl29

Rough life, huh.

[larsbars]

1p per level seems very expensive. Currently lvl 21 Ranger and have maybe 200-300 plat. So 10% of my gross for a single port? No TY.

I thought 1pp per level was blue prices where plat was falling out of peoples pockets. I've been selling hand made backpacks for 15pp on teal and i know they sold for a heck of a lot more on blue.

Still whenever I /who all dial I rarely see anyone so I offer close to 15pp per port at lvl 24 to whoever is willing to take me but I also just tend to try and run instead of asking for ports.

[Tethler]

I also just tend to try and run instead of asking for ports.

Same. Taken more boat rides that I have ports so far in my 30 levels.

[Natewest1987]

I typically always start these conversations out by laying out exactly how much I’ll pay them. Especially if I’m randomly messaging someone. It helps to start out with “hey, would you do x for y?”. That way no one feels weird. I usually will throw on some additional pp depending on the experience.

I gotta say, if you’re soliciting a port, you absolutely should be cool with paying more. If someone is sitting around blasting ooo that they’re available to port and tips are appreciated but not necessary, then that’s a little different.

[Videri]

1. If you are a low lvl and have no money don't ask for a port. Go lvl

I think people are skipping over this one, maybe because it's first on the list. I think this can't be overstated. It's less efficient to roam Norrath and better to just find some mobs and start grinding. Stop looking for ports and start looking for NPCs.

I just hope one of the takeaways from this thread is that people should stop getting their level 3 ported from one newbie zone to another.

[shuklak]

I think people are skipping over this one, maybe because it's first on the list. I think this can't be overstated. It's less efficient to roam Norrath and better to just find some mobs and start grinding. Stop looking for ports and start looking for NPCs.

I just hope one of the takeaways from this thread is that people should stop getting their level 3 ported from one newbie zone to another.

Its 2020. Anything that was going to change has changed.

[Videri]

Its 2020. Anything that was going to change has changed.

MAGICIANS DON'T TELEPORT

[derpcake2]

1p per level seems very expensive. Currently lvl 21 Ranger and have maybe 200-300 plat. So 10% of my gross for a single port? No TY.

Farming 20 plat at dervs or some other camp would take you 10 minutes.

Running from the karanas to south ro is going to take longer.

This isn't hard.

[Videri]

1p per level seems very expensive. Currently lvl 21 Ranger and have maybe 200-300 plat. So 10% of my gross for a single port? No TY.

Consider the following. If you bought 10 ports, you'd be broke, yeah. But whatever you're doing at level 21 should only require one or two ports (which wouldn't be available if some druid/wizard wasn't out looking for plat). As a low-level melee, you should bind in a friendly town with one or more good exp zones nearby. Log in, hoof it and grind, log out, repeat. No ports. Once you outgrow that area, pay for a single port and bind at a new home base. And yeah, maybe you'll pay 10% of your net worth. Once.

There's no need to port every play session. Take ports only when you must, and tip.

Also, I think a lot of people are conceding that 5 gold per level is the current standard on Green/Teal.

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

Holy fuck there’s some entitled people on this server. OP isn’t being unreasonable at all.

[mischief419]

I'd say 5g per level. At lvl 30, 15pp seems reasonable for a port as long as you come to the porter in a convenient way. It's different if it's an emergency or under extraordinary circumstances, though, where you'd pay extra for expedience.

CR? If Seal Team, tell them to bust out 50pp out of their 80k to buy a CR port ;D unless a chanter! The crack trade.

[Benanov]

I'd say 5g per level

5gp/level seems to be what the green/teal crowd is coalescing around.

I usually "trade magicks" for Spirit of Wolf, because most Shamen like cleric buffs; most Druids are fairly appreciative of my efforts but the higher level ones just see it as amusing. It gets the message across, though.

[Frug]

Holy fuck there’s some entitled people on this server. OP isn’t being unreasonable at all.

No, he's just being a dick.

[doubledgedbeard]

I'd say 5g per level. At lvl 30, 15pp seems reasonable for a port as long as you come to the porter in a convenient way. It's different if it's an emergency or under extraordinary circumstances, though, where you'd pay extra for expedience.

CR? If Seal Team, tell them to bust out 50pp out of their 80k to buy a CR port ;D unless a chanter! The crack trade.

As a seal team cleric, I find your comment hilarious. I'm completely broke -- clickies aren't cheap -- and the richest people are actually the enchanters, so they're the ones you should be gouging :)

[Whirled]

How some dream it be:
Player_01 = Hail, teleporting friend of supreme spell casting; may I trouble thee for a teleport to X location?
Player_02 = Good Hails, my pal. Fare thee well on your zoning skill up. Please feel free to drop coins cuz donations are always welcome ( bot NOT MANDATORY!)

and...
How it really happens:

Player_9123 = Yo, port me to plane of toast sombich

Player_234x = clicks button