How strong is the Enc summoned pet?

[Vanessa]

I've heard different things about the Enchanters summoned pet. I've heard they are the weakest of all pet classes, and that they die pretty quickly and have low hp. But, I've also recently heard that they are much stronger than that, and that they even can tank Hill Giants and other hard hitting enemies at 40+.

I was wondering if any of you higher level Enchanters who use the summoned pet often, could tell me your opinion / impression of the summoned pet? How well can they tank? How much damage they do? Is it possible to pull an enemy, root it, and then let your pet solo it down; or will it die very quickly?

[MaCtastic]

It depends on its use. The pet, when combined with buffs and debuffs, can be a viable pet. For example, I’ve used it to fear kite and face tank mobs in Skyfire that are part of the named cycle.

Is it as good as a charmed pet, not even close. Is it as good a pet as the mage line, no. But, it has its uses and can be used to XP when you are otherwise too distracted to manage a charmed pet.

If you keep your inventory full of daggers, you can dismiss pet while enemy is low hp and still get full xp.

As for the hp/dmg, look at the chart on the wiki on the enchanter class page.

[derpcake2]

The 44 pet can tank / kill greens that give xp, and low blues.

Pet needs haste and mobs need slow, on slightly higher blues throwing in some stuns helps.

Max hit is quad 45.

If the mob isn't low blue or green, pet is going to have a bad time.

Pretty sure the 44 pet would get wrecked by a hill giant, since it gets wrecked by a zol ghoul knight, even when geared & hasted.

[supermonk]

Pretty sure the 44 pet would get wrecked by a hill giant, since it gets wrecked by a zol ghoul knight, even when geared & hasted.

49 naked hasted pet can easily tank frenzied.

[Bergen]

When I was playing on Live, I had a shit internet connection so it was almost always too dangerous to charm. I ended up leveling to 60 or so with only the animation (before I got a decent connection).

It can tank things just fine... if you help it. Slow the mob, haste the pet, disempower line, etc. Judicious use of Runes, Feedback, and some facetanking. But definitely not great at solo tanking anything higher than light blues if you leave it alone.

Was good enough to tank the Alizewsaur at 50+.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

When I was playing on Live, I had a shit internet connection so it was almost always too dangerous to charm. I ended up leveling to 60 or so with only the animation (before I got a decent connection).

It can tank things just fine... if you help it. Slow the mob, haste the pet, disempower line, etc. Judicious use of Runes, Feedback, and some facetanking. But definitely not great at solo tanking anything higher than light blues if you leave it alone.

Was good enough to tank the Alizewsaur at 50+.

Just curious:. How can you cast slows and debuffs on the mob and have your animation retain top aggro?

[DMN]

49 naked hasted pet can easily tank frenzied.

If it survives a frenzy its prolly gonna cost of your mana out from having to slow/rune/stun. wouldnt really call that "tanking". And god forbid it have any faster weapona nd your pet is toast without chain stun.

Noticing a pattern in your enc related posts.

[Tecmos Deception]

Just curious:. How can you cast slows and debuffs on the mob and have your animation retain top aggro?

Are you trolling? Lol.


https://wiki.project1999.com/Root

https://wiki.project1999.com/Memory_Blur

He also mentions "50+" with the "+" probably being a key character.

[Wallicker]

For Allizewsaur just lev over to sister island and charm the lvl 45 dwarf vendor and shred the leezard.

[Meiva]

I've found I only ever use my animation when I'm camping a static single spawn. And even then I'd prefer something else nearby that I can charm on the fly. I did watch a 44+ ench solo giants with an animation just fine. This was yesterday. Totally not the most efficient method. You'd want to charm for efficiency.

Question.. Who the fuck is using Disempower line on pve mobs? Isn't that a waste of mana? I thought the pve use of that line was simply to encumber snare your charmed pet.

[supermonk]

If it survives a frenzy its prolly gonna cost of your mana out from having to slow/rune/stun. wouldnt really call that "tanking". And god forbid it have any faster weapona nd your pet is toast without chain stun.

Noticing a pattern in your enc related posts.

don't need to rune your pet or cast stuns at all actually. once it's slowed, it's GG. throw in a few nukes and dot and your pet will walk away with >50% HP every time. i've also comfortably duoed rubi BP camp including Avatar of Fear with a 34 fire mage pet and my lvl 44 enchanter pet. maybe you guys are doing something wrong, but i've never felt anxious at these camps once the mob is slowed. dunno what to tell you. i mean worst case, if you pet is going to die just mezz the mob and summon another pet.

[Buellen]

like any pet class enchanter can chain summon animation but have it way easier in this method :

1. root target
2. recliam animation
3. mez target (level 4 mez)
4. tash (incase mez wipes hate)
5. summon new animation

When mezz breaks target will hit you and new pet will engage mez it once or twice and you should be good to med while pet tanks. Cont as needed

[supermonk]

also if you lvl 4 mezz the mob, then tash/root/slow before engaging then you really have nothing to worry about.

[DMN]

don't need to rune your pet or cast stuns at all actually. once it's slowed, it's GG. throw in a few nukes and dot and your pet will walk away with >50% HP every time. i've also comfortably duoed rubi BP camp including Avatar of Fear with a 34 fire mage pet and my lvl 44 enchanter pet. maybe you guys are doing something wrong, but i've never felt anxious at these camps once the mob is slowed. dunno what to tell you. i mean worst case, if you pet is going to die just mezz the mob and summon another pet.

This is just complete bullshit for the hell of it i tried using animation on crusade with tepid on crus and swift on pet. Net result? pet was dead before before sader was half life. Please stop talking out your ass.

[DMN]

also if you lvl 4 mezz the mob, then tash/root/slow before engaging then you really have nothing to worry about.

Again this is stupid as hell. you will build a bunch of aggro and if root drops your gonna be getting ppounde. just stop talking about enchanters.

[Solist]

This is just complete bullshit for the hell of it i tried using animation on crusade with tepid on crus and swift on pet. Net result? pet was dead before before sader was half life. Please stop talking out your ass.

Crusader can quad 50% of the time he spawns, he’s far harder than frenzy.

Having done frenzy a lot as 50 enc/cle, the animation pet does just fine. Barely heal through fights when we’re in chill mode.

[DMN]

Crusader can quad 50% of the time he spawns, he’s far harder than frenzy.

Having done frenzy a lot as 50 enc/cle, the animation pet does just fine. Barely heal through fights when we’re in chill mode.

Ya if he's dual wielding he's tougher. He wasn't. I would have not have mentioned it if it was so. Additionally he wasn't shaman buffed either.

[Tecmos Deception]

Yeah I don't think disempower line is basically ever worth the mana. I spend about 40-50 testing my melee and my tanking against the same mob in the same level with my sham on green, to see if incapacitate had any affect on average hit, average hit taken, miss chances, defenses. There was no difference in my small sample size.

[supermonk]

Again this is stupid as hell. you will build a bunch of aggro and if root drops your gonna be getting ppounde. just stop talking about enchanters.

then you re-root and move out of the way? i can't teach bad players how to play..

[Palemoon]

I have not posted about this yet, since I have never played a lvl 1 necro until a bit on Teal recently. All I have to say is:

the lvl 1 pets (enchanter and necro) are far far faaaaaaaaaaar stronger than they ever were on live or eqmac. Dunno if anyone has made a bug report or posted evidence, but someone should!

So for the OP: the lvl 1 enchanter/necro pet are rediculously powerful (in hit rate and damage and hps/survivability) than they ever were on live/eqmac.

[Modwolf]

then you re-root and move out of the way? i can't teach bad players how to play..

[supermonk]

This is just complete bullshit for the hell of it i tried using animation on crusade with tepid on crus and swift on pet. Net result? pet was dead before before sader was half life. Please stop talking out your ass.

i've never fought crusader, but i'm going to throw you a bone here and give you some tips for free. i can already tell your unfortunate result with sader was clearly due to your incompetence. first, use shiftless deeds over tepid deeds; any knucklehead knows your lvl 44 slow is better than your lvl 24 slow. second, don't just sit there and do nothing while your pet tanks the mob. why don't you throw a few nukes in there? i've heard that helps with soloing.

[DMN]

then you re-root and move out of the way? i can't teach bad players how to play..

You are the idiot sitting there with your thumb up your ass for 30 seconds your pet could be chewing away hit points. If that's what you want to do, you start with root.

i've never fought crusader, but i'm going to throw you a bone here and give you some tips for free. i can already tell your unfortunate result with sader was clearly due to your incompetence. first, use shiftless deeds over tepid deeds; any knucklehead knows your lvl 44 slow is better than your lvl 24 slow. second, don't just sit there and do nothing while your pet tanks the mob. why don't you throw a few nukes in there? i've heard that helps with soloing.

Shitfless is shit for a mob with that many HP. you are better off with tepid and using the extra 100 mana for properly time stuns. You are sloppy an inefficient and generally ill informed.

[supermonk]

Shitfless is shit for a mob with that many HP. you are better off with tepid and using the extra 100 mana for properly time stuns. You are sloppy an inefficient and generally ill informed.

you play scared. scared money don't make money, dummy.

[DMN]

you play scared. scared money don't make money, dummy.

LOL says the guy who starts a fight with a low blue using mez.

[supermonk]

LOL says the guy who starts a fight with a low blue using mez.

frenzied ghoul is lvl 42 not that low?

[derpcake2]

frenzied ghoul is lvl 42 not that low?

I'm pretty sure I can ride an octopus better then you can drive an ench.

The main problem seems that a lot of people are too stupid to ride an octopus, their jealousy makes them dream about successful octopus-riders raiding all the clams they never managed to open.

Roll dolphin.

[Bazia]

DMN is stupid and bad at ENC, his shtick is going to threads where other enchanters explain simple ways to farm high level stuff and him saying it's impossible because he's too incompetent to do it, just ignore him

[Kalamurv]

why the hell would you use tepid (lv 24, max 50% slow) vs shiftless (lv 44, 65% slow). 100 mana isn't a big deal 44+ (or shouldn't be).....and 15% slow can be difference between life and death in some cases.....and that's without bringing duration difference into it.

[DMN]

why the hell would you use tepid (lv 24, max 50% slow) vs shiftless (lv 44, 65% slow). 100 mana isn't a big deal 44+ (or shouldn't be).....and 15% slow can be difference between life and death in some cases.....and that's without bringing duration difference into it.

Cause it's not worth it on a mob with the HP of frenzy. Lord and king are probably the only 2 mobs in Lguk worth using shiftless on. The slow line is frequently resisted, and having to dump 400 mana on a low blue just to slow it 10% more than you could have done with 200 is very inefficient. With some bad RNG you could quickly find yourself OOM. And it's 45% versus 55% at level 50, btw.

[ClephNote]

Level 49 Nec pet has fewer HPs than level 49 mage air and Necro pets (exact stats found on pet guide on wiki).. Hits for like 3 fewer hps max level. Will double attack and dual wield with weaps equipped, increased HP regen (30 per tick). Pretty much always better than same level Shaman pet.

Will not /pet attack, mob needs to either hit the chanter or have mob rooted on it/kited through pet/mob.

Your call on how useful. I think they are very useful in the right circumstances!

[Kalamurv]

If only chanters had an unresistable spell that would lower a mobs ability to resist that slow.....and while we dream, why not make it super low mana and incredibly fast casting.