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damianicus
12-20-2019, 05:48 PM
Ok I'm not your hard-core played-for-10-years player. I understand they wanted to start completely over on Blue, get that Manastone, then wait 6 years to merge back with their Green server friends. Read that again. All these servers did was split a great community over 3 servers. I came to P99 a year ago, got 4 chars to high 30s, mid 40s. It was great to be with the same great people who were around in 1999. Then you split the servers, Green pop is like 400 max. Tunnel trade is lame. I hardly want to play now. I'm surely not starting over. In my opinion, you should have offered character transfers, naked without plat if necessary.

Long story short, was the chance at some pre-nerf really worth dividing the population over 3 servers? My vote is a big no.

Imposter
12-20-2019, 05:51 PM
i bet u arent starting over. I mean you started over 4 times only to get to lvl 40 each time. I bet you never start over.

damianicus
12-20-2019, 05:54 PM
Sorry, I meant Green and Teal were a bad idea.

damianicus
12-20-2019, 05:57 PM
i bet u arent starting over. I mean you started over 4 times only to get to lvl 40 each time. I bet you never start over.

Ok forget "starting over". Splitting the population was not worth some pre-nerf.

Albanwr
12-20-2019, 06:30 PM
Blue was beta for Green, Green turned out to be popular and they split it into two. A good idea imo.

If you are happy on the beta server, then stay there and allow the rest of us to be happy on Green/Teal.

Swish
12-20-2019, 07:19 PM
Long story short, was the chance at some pre-nerf really worth dividing the population over 3 servers? My vote is a big no.

Actually its split over 4 servers ^^

Ripqozko
12-20-2019, 07:22 PM
Actually its split over 4 servers ^^

I don't think Roz counts , since all of red plays it

grinsly
12-20-2019, 07:37 PM
Actually its split over 4 servers ^^

Blue, green and teal. What community is on any other sever 😂

Jimjam
12-20-2019, 07:40 PM
Blue, green and teal. What community is on any other sever 😂

I think he is talking about takp or one of those other boxer boxes.

Fawqueue
12-20-2019, 09:27 PM
Then you split the servers, Green pop is like 400 max. .

It's at 786 at the time of writing this. You don't have to be so lazy to make a point, they have the populations listed on the home page. Take five seconds not to immediately look uninformed.

Tethler
12-20-2019, 09:29 PM
Green pop is like 400 max.

Only at like 4am NA time. Get a grip. Be a man and start fresh.

damianicus
12-20-2019, 09:53 PM
Never should have been a teal, pop stabilized after a couple weeks when power gamers burned out.

They should have made a new red, i keep hoping santa will bring us one but he probably wont.

Would be good to allow turning on a world pvp flag when you want to.

damianicus
12-20-2019, 09:55 PM
It's at 786 at the time of writing this. You don't have to be so lazy to make a point, they have the populations listed on the home page. Take five seconds not to immediately look uninformed.

It was a long week at work. I'd have fixed my error if the forum allowed me to edit.

Tethler
12-20-2019, 10:01 PM
Would be good to allow turning on a world pvp flag when you want to.

That's a World of Warcraft feature. Definitely outside p99's timeline.

damianicus
12-20-2019, 10:02 PM
Only at like 4am NA time. Get a grip. Be a man and start fresh.

I gave 6 years of my life to retail EQ. 14 years to WoW in some form. P99 is a great thing. I appreciate the chance to play EQ again. But not a 3rd run to 60. Someone said we like being on the regular server and I respect people's choices. But I'm looking at the population of P99 EQ divided into 4 servers that can't play together. Then it would be like WoW. My opinion folks I respect yours.

joppykid
12-20-2019, 10:22 PM
I gave 6 years of my life to retail EQ. 14 years to WoW in some form. P99 is a great thing. I appreciate the chance to play EQ again. But not a 3rd run to 60. Someone said we like being on the regular server and I respect people's choices. But I'm looking at the population of P99 EQ divided into 4 servers that can't play together. Then it would be like WoW. My opinion folks I respect yours.

You posted in the wrong forum section if you want people to respect your opinion.

Tilien
12-20-2019, 10:44 PM
You posted in the wrong forum section if you want people to respect your opinion.

I don't respect your opinion that no one respect's other people's opinions here.

Somekid123
12-20-2019, 11:08 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

TripSin
12-20-2019, 11:42 PM
Green pop is like 400 max. .

You probably shouldn't lie about things that are very easy to look up. I've never even seen it below 400.

Tilien
12-21-2019, 12:36 AM
You probably shouldn't lie about things that are very easy to look up. I've never even seen it below 400.

He corrected himself in like the 3rd post that he mixed up Blue and Green, everyone's just choosing to ignore that now lol.

shuklak
12-21-2019, 01:54 AM
I don't respect your opinion that no one respect's other people's opinions here.

Disrespectfully submitted.

Videri
12-21-2019, 09:25 AM
You’re looking at it the wrong way.

Green is the point of Blue. Always was. They had to rebuild Norrath, it took them 10 years to finish it, and when they did, they launched the server they had envisioned from the very beginning: Green.

Teal is a temporary offshoot of Green that will rejoin.

Red doesn’t seem to have more than 20 people, so we’re not losing any significant population there.

Canelek
12-21-2019, 06:16 PM
Your feelings are important to us. Please let us know how this helps.

Badalight
12-24-2019, 09:18 AM
There are good and bad things about having Teal. High server pop makes finding a group in the popular zones difficult and getting rare items almost impossible.

However, it also sucks that there are zones which are completely empty. I'm tired of leveling in guk and unrest. There are other zones that are completely barren, but people would rather wait 5 hours to get in a group in one of those zones rather than go somewhere with a slightly lower ZEM.

vossiewulf
12-24-2019, 09:59 AM
Over the weekend I saw well over 1300 people between Green and Teal. You folks should remember what the early live servers were like when they got much above 1000, everything is overcrowded. Everything.

They shouldn't merge Green and Teal until they're 132% sure that they're not going to be exceeding 1k on the merged server. And I'm not sure they're really going to be able to do that until Velious launches.

Only possibility for an early merge is founded on the assumption that they can very easily spin up Teal again and offer to move people, but I would assume the P99 team is probably not real enthusiastic about splitting and merging several times.

Frostback
12-24-2019, 10:37 AM
Over the weekend I saw well over 1300 people between Green and Teal. You folks should remember what the early live servers were like when they got much above 1000, everything is overcrowded. Everything.

They shouldn't merge Green and Teal until they're 132% sure that they're not going to be exceeding 1k on the merged server. And I'm not sure they're really going to be able to do that until Velious launches.

Only possibility for an early merge is founded on the assumption that they can very easily spin up Teal again and offer to move people, but I would assume the P99 team is probably not real enthusiastic about splitting and merging several times.

GreenStatus:
Players: 430
TealStatus:
Players: 378
@9:30am est

When servers on live exceeded 1000 players, the problems from crowding were a lot different. People would get massive lag spikes and would ld like crazy. We don't have that problem anymore and the server pop only goes beyond 1000 on peak hours like weekends or 7pm-midnight.

Frostback
12-24-2019, 10:50 AM
everything is overcrowded. Everything.


South ro population pre jboots = 0. Population of sro after jboots = less than 6 people.

Whirled
12-24-2019, 10:55 AM
Blue was a bad idea, Teal even worse. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/Blue was a bad idea, Teal even worse.)

Threads worse. Respekt my opinyunz!

Kron
12-24-2019, 11:27 AM
When even I see low pop 500-600 on offpeak I say YESSSS.... Run over to places like Manastone, Guise, Ruby Chest, etc and it's like 6 deep.

So I can't imagine what these list camps or even high contested camps would be like since we now have all the info to be efficient.

No more random exploring trying to find a good spot to hunt. People B-line directly to specific camps at each lvl range to max their time so it get's crowded quick.

Nirgon
12-24-2019, 11:28 AM
Blue was way overfarmed

Fresh starts are fun

Go get an impossible estrogen burger from BK

Mblake81
12-24-2019, 11:42 AM
Ok I'm not your hard-core played-for-10-years player. I understand they wanted to start completely over on Blue, get that Manastone, then wait 6 years to merge back with their Green server friends. Read that again. All these servers did was split a great community over 3 servers. I came to P99 a year ago, got 4 chars to high 30s, mid 40s. It was great to be with the same great people who were around in 1999. Then you split the servers, Green pop is like 400 max. Tunnel trade is lame. I hardly want to play now. I'm surely not starting over. In my opinion, you should have offered character transfers, naked without plat if necessary.

Long story short, was the chance at some pre-nerf really worth dividing the population over 3 servers? My vote is a big no.

The servers were not split into Green/Teal because players wanted to get a rare item. They were split because the developers/restorers of P99 (if you understand what that means) set a date to launch the server. Blue was a beta to put back in and strip out all of the things Sony did to EQ after the classic era (original-velious).

Sony didn't keep a backup copy of the original era. The developers had to rebuild it, that was blue. It took 10 years for the small team to fix it. It wasn't the game server, we were beta testers as they made the changes to restore the original game. The point of the server was the original game, not happy life conveniences.

Blue was already in the Velious era and was used to test out all of the corrections. Blue was not going to be wiped, people had become too attached after a decade on the server.

New server rolls out with most of the corrections made. A few couldn't be done in time or a priority. New server is popular and people cry that its overpopulated in an MMO. They split the server to appease with a promise to bring it back together later.

The end result of the servers is still unclear if it will be wiped and restarted (maybe with more correct in era changes) or if it will be dumped into the wasteland that is blue and then restarted. The hopes of the players farming rare items like manastones is that they will carry the very high platinum value that they did on blue but many don't comprehend supply & demand. Get rich quick lottery ticket.

Mblake81
12-24-2019, 11:52 AM
fuck, I gave a real answer in RNF..

STFU op!

wagorf
12-25-2019, 11:24 PM
When even I see low pop 500-600 on offpeak I say YESSSS.... Run over to places like Manastone, Guise, Ruby Chest, etc and it's like 6 deep.

So I can't imagine what these list camps or even high contested camps would be like since we now have all the info to be efficient.

No more random exploring trying to find a good spot to hunt. People B-line directly to specific camps at each lvl range to max their time so it get's crowded quick.

it's sad how people want to re-live the past, get that legacy item they never had the chance to, except today you have that info from 20 years ago so it's no achievement whatsoever because everybody on the server has same exact knowledge, and that precious item of yours mean nothing to everyone else