Staying logged in to hold a camp

[reznor_]

tbh I was really just trolling this guy, because it's late (I know this because I typed `heheh` like an idiot) and I was up far too long getting my guise tonight. But his responses are pretty funny. As far as I remember, you have to be logged in to camp a mob. I showed up, no one was here. He logged in and claimed it was his camp. I don't deny I'm being a little jerky, but I just want some magic booties so I can do a flying kick in lower guk. He has been talking more, and now trained me because he was "splitting" but he's more effort than he's worth. Anyway, these made me laugh a little, and I'm going to bed. OP didn't even try to take his mobs.

https://i.imgur.com/mmR89rE.png

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[Dugface]

"In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the*placeholders (or the room if there are no placeholders) cleared, within the same zone, do not die or log off."

Sorry Devorador, try not to be nice next time by helping transfer items for a guildie.

[Canelek]

You leave the camp, you forfeit the camp if someone else shows up. That is a basic fucking fact of EQ. Dude took the risk for whatever reason, allegedly. Best thing to do for mental health is assume camp will be taken when you return. If it is still open and still shows your ass marks on the ground, great!

If someone is there, bummer, but ya know what? Your happy ass was already ready for that eventuality. Yessir, you now have options like making a midnight snack for your twin toddlers, trolling profootballtalk.com or looking for hot single MILF dates. The world is your oyster!

Likely though, dude logged off hours ago and was hoping to scam his way into that rad-fuck camp.

[Canelek]

And LOGED FORAFRIEND would be a fantastic character name.

[shuklak]

Playing the petition card very fast. Does that threat work that well? I mean there was virtually no negotiating whatsoever... just immediately cry to someone.

[Fammaden]

Playing the petition card very fast. Does that threat work that well? I mean there was virtually no negotiating whatsoever... just immediately cry to someone.

Not sure I like your tone friend, reporting this post.

[Modwolf]

Similar situation/different area but the opposition tried to contest for like 10 spawns. It was nice having someone pull aggro while I won the DPS race every time. The highlight was when they tried to cure poison the mob thinking it would remove my dot. <3 harf

[Rager and Quitter]

Sorry Devorador, you lost this one.

While I never believe anyone who "loged fora friend" as to why they weren't actively watching the camp, you might have tried, /guild "Sorry GuildNoob, I'd love to loged fora friend xfer you, but I might lose this camp. If it can wait until I'm done neckbearing for 47 hours, I'll help you out."

[Swish]

I'm telling Uncle Llandris, just you wait

[Maelstrom]

Devorador is one of the nicest dudes I've met on Teal.

Kindness goes a long way. As you might have seen, he seemed willing to share some boots if you would have been chill with him.

tsk tsk

[Tethler]

Logging forfeits camp. Rules are quite clear. Doesn't matter that he cleared previosly, nice guy or not.

[KansasComrade]

Logging forfeits camp. Rules are quite clear. Doesn't matter that he cleared previosly, nice guy or not.

I don’t think you’re following the story. Let me help. He logged out to help a friend. There’s clearly an exception to be made.

[shuklak]

Let this be a lesson: though never camp and come right back, no matter how noble your time away was. Instead, you simply "went ld".

Disrespectfully submitted.

[Tethler]

I don’t think you’re following the story. Let me help. He logged out to help a friend. There’s clearly an exception to be made.

I understand the story and am sympathetic to the guy, but the rules are also clear.

In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders (or the room if there are no placeholders) cleared, within the same zone, do not die or log off.

It does't say "unless it's to help a friend". Any GM or guide is going to rule that the camp is lost when he camped.

[Hazek]

Reznor is the dickhead in this case. If you're going to different camps trying to hold multiple then that's different. But obviously he was just logged out for a sec because he killed it last.

[Swish]

There’s clearly an exception to be made.

If there's exceptions to the rules, why have rules?

If it was a pvp server you could contest it properly with your skills as a player.

[Tethler]

Reznor is the dickhead in this case. If you're going to different camps trying to hold multiple then that's different. But obviously he was just logged out for a sec because he killed it last.

That's all it takes though. Agree or not, thems the rules. /shrug

[Morratiz]

I always find it so funny how unwilling both sides always are to compromise in these situations. Literally every time its either "you get fucked" or "I get fucked"

[nostalgiaquest]

You both handled this like spoiled children and should be ashamed of yourselves. I assume you’re both adults, at least legally in terms of age. One of you tattles to the gms and the other to the forums. Embarrassing.

[KansasComrade]

If there's exceptions to the rules, why have rules?

If it was a pvp server you could contest it properly with your skills as a player.

Sarcasm really doesn’t do well in this medium.

[AgentEpilot]

I always find it so funny how unwilling both sides always are to compromise in these situations. Literally every time its either "you get fucked" or "I get fucked"

Its how the p99 badlands operate, wasteland rules!


But seriously I usually have no problem doing a fair compromise but sometimes you get a fedora mafia who won’t practice basic social skills.

[Evia]

Conclusion:
-OP was kinda rude but was following the rules. Camp was open if the other dude logged.
-Other Dude seemed like he was probably genuinely trying to help a friend with an xfer, and figured it would be nbd as long as he returned before his mob spawned. He was wrong though since as soon as he logged out he forfeit the camp.


Tldr: you cant log out and expect to hold a camp. No matter what.

[reznor_]

Wow, I feel like this thread got away from me.

I clearly stated I was trolling this guy...I did not touch the mob when it spawned. I think people who think they have a right to something because they log off or leave, are pretty ridiculous. Again, his reactions made me want to post this here.

[reznor_]

I clearly stated I was trolling this guy

I mean I clearly stated it to you people here, not to him obviously ;)

[wagorf]

dude needs to know the rule, and come back humble hoping to continue the camp, not act like he deserves it. as long as you log off LD/camp whatever reason, camp is open.

[Daloon]

if you log out to transfer, you lose camp.. EQ 101.

[saftbudet]

Reznor is the dickhead in this case. If you're going to different camps trying to hold multiple then that's different. But obviously he was just logged out for a sec because he killed it last.

Is not lguk like 20+ respawn? He coulda been gone 1 min or 20 mins. He also could just been lying. Perhaps he got the drop on 1 toon and had another toon parked there which he swapped to in order to resume camp.

[saftbudet]

I am happy we got this rule on P99 if you zone out forwhatever reason its forfeit if someone else there when you get back.

It made me loose camps myself. First you get pissed but you know you risked camp by swapping anf its a fair rule.

What does suck is going ld and loosing a camp.

[DMN]

I am happy we got this rule on P99 if you zone out forwhatever reason its forfeit if someone else there when you get back.

It made me loose camps myself. First you get pissed but you know you risked camp by swapping anf its a fair rule.

What does suck is going ld and loosing a camp.

That rule is dumb as fuck. Not only does it fuck people over who legitimately went LD, but it encourages training a variety of similar things to get the other person out of the camp.

[azeth]

if you log out to transfer, you lose camp.. EQ 101.

indisputable too. log out? lost. die? lost. go afk and miss spawn cycle(s)? lost.

sucks, but thats the deal.

[shuklak]

Eq was always for the most hardcore and logging out is just going to cost you every single damn time.

[zaneosak]

Logging forfeits camp. Rules are quite clear. Doesn't matter that he cleared previosly, nice guy or not.

Prove this. I was just told by a GM 3 weeks ago that someone can keep the camp as long as they are at the camp by the time the next PH spawns. I legitimately asked the GM if the guy can log on to his next alt and bring it before the next PH pops and he said that is totally legal. So from what I was told by the GM you can hold a camp forever without being in front of said camp.

[Evia]

Prove this. I was just told by a GM 3 weeks ago that someone can keep the camp as long as they are at the camp by the time the next PH spawns. I legitimately asked the GM if the guy can log on to his next alt and bring it before the next PH pops and he said that is totally legal. So from what I was told by the GM you can hold a camp forever without being in front of said camp.

Maybe. But you'd have a hard time winning an argument if you go to log back in and someone is now there in the camp. 99.9% sure GMs would side with the guy who showed up to the empty camp.

[Madbad]

I have seen some hadden arguments turn out in strange ways

[Grimgor]

Logging forfeits camp. Rules are quite clear. Doesn't matter that he cleared previosly, nice guy or not.

Prove this. I was just told by a GM 3 weeks ago that someone can keep the camp as long as they are at the camp by the time the next PH spawns. I legitimately asked the GM if the guy can log on to his next alt and bring it before the next PH pops and he said that is totally legal. So from what I was told by the GM you can hold a camp forever without being in front of said camp.

"For the most part, a camp is yours as long as you have presence at that camp. If you die, go LD or leave the zone you can lose the camp if another player calls you on it." - Menden (http://wiki.project1999.com/Rulings#Holding_a_Camp_While_AFK)

[Tethler]

Prove this. I was just told by a GM 3 weeks ago that someone can keep the camp as long as they are at the camp by the time the next PH spawns. I legitimately asked the GM if the guy can log on to his next alt and bring it before the next PH pops and he said that is totally legal. So from what I was told by the GM you can hold a camp forever without being in front of said camp.

Sounds like you need to give the p99 guidebook (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2651) another read. It's stated in bold right on the page. I'll quote that specific section for you.

In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders (or the room if there are no placeholders) cleared, within the same zone, do not die or log off.

[shuklak]

I have seen some hadden arguments turn out in strange ways

Fatality.

[Siege]

Walking away and not engaging in pixel-sick lawerquest faggotry would have been the most dignified thing to do.

[shuklak]

Walking away and not engaging in pixel-sick lawerquest faggotry would have been the most dignified thing to do.

A bold departure from the usual, indeed.

[Tethler]

Walking away and not engaging in pixel-sick lawerquest faggotry would have been the most dignified thing to do.

To be fair, noone playing EQ has any dignity left anyway.