Servers Rant

[roj1]

since the server split, have noticed, very hard to find a group..
not many people on...
Blue is way more functional but everyone left to join green and teal..
Green has many people..
Teal is doesnt.

Now we have what used to be "barely enough" people, split up into 3 servers.

Anyone else notice this?

Tried various classes, but the rule of thumb seems to stay the same, learn to solo everything or load up overwatch.. :)

[WaffleztheAndal]

Green is was and will remain the true server. Teal is Green’s reserve of extra players for when Kunark comes out. Those who moved to Teal made a choice, consciously or not, of convenience/free camps at the cost of a noticeably less populated and social server.

[WaffleztheAndal]

Also Blue was a beta and is best forgotten now.

[baakss]

Also Blue was a beta and is best forgotten now.

Are you going to be upset when Green gets rolled into Blue?

[Tilien]

Are you going to be upset when Green gets rolled into Blue?

No he's going to whine that him farming Velious for 10 years is nothing like Velious being farmed for years on Blue and that Green's purity should be preserved by not rolling them together.

[Quiksilver]

Are you going to be upset when Green gets rolled into Blue?

Not upset but more confused. You're not making sense. So what would that look like? Two characters on the same account with the same name? Or would we have to rename every toon we rolled on Green with the same Blue name?

[Tilien]

Not upset but more confused. You're not making sense. So what would that look like? Two characters on the same account with the same name? Or would we have to rename every toon we rolled on Green with the same Blue name?

Green into Blue to have a collective rot server was always the plan until people started whining recently.

[BlackBellamy]

Not upset but more confused. You're not making sense. So what would that look like? Two characters on the same account with the same name? Or would we have to rename every toon we rolled on Green with the same Blue name?

Why would you think there are two characters on the same account with the same name?

[Quiksilver]

Why would you think there are two characters on the same account with the same name?

For example, I'm Madworld, lvl 57 warrior on Blue. Which allowed me to created Madworld lvl 1 warrior on Green as long as it was on the same account. So how a server merge affect those two characters?

[Tilien]

Classic merges happened with adding an x to one of the names, but devs would probably allow renaming of merged toons. The strongest opposition by far is from people who are or think they'll be top raiders/tunnel fat cats who don't want a merge out of fear of the value of manastones.

Green 1.0 is gonna go down the same was Blue did when Green 2.0 launches why not let all the dead servers be the same.

[Quiksilver]

Classic merges happened with adding an x to one of the names, but devs would probably allow renaming of merged toons. The strongest opposition by far is from people who are or think they'll be top raiders/tunnel fat cats who don't want a merge out of fear of the value of manastones.

Green 1.0 is gonna go down the same was Blue did when Green 2.0 launches why not let all the dead servers be the same.

Gotcha. Ty for the explanation. It would make sense to cycle all 3 xpacs and then merge, rinse, repeat. Creating a graveyard server of sorts

[Tilien]

Gotcha. Ty for the explanation. It would make sense to cycle all 3 xpacs and then merge, rinse, repeat. Creating a graveyard server of sorts

Plan pre-Green launch was to turn Blue from beta to graveyard, current plan is unknown but given how some high play time Green players are pre-emptively clinging to their top-raider status I think devs might cave and make multiple graveyards (which is bad imo).

[Littul Jonn]

since the server split, have noticed, very hard to find a group..
not many people on...
Blue is way more functional but everyone left to join green and teal..
Green has many people..
Teal is doesnt.

Now we have what used to be "barely enough" people, split up into 3 servers.

Anyone else notice this?

Tried various classes, but the rule of thumb seems to stay the same, learn to solo everything or load up overwatch.. :)

I called this over the summer. My prediction was that p99 will die out my March 2020. That might not be an accurate timeline now, but at least people are seeing what splintering the community does.

#unrootthedragons

[WaffleztheAndal]

No he's going to whine that him farming Velious for 10 years is nothing like Velious being farmed for years on Blue and that Green's purity should be preserved by not rolling them together.

My interest in a classic seres always dies with Velious. Not because I think Velious is bad, it’s just where I taper off and quit. Classic and Kunark are why I’m here. It’s what I did on Live, on Blue, and will do on Green. By the time green rolls into wherever it’s going, I’ll be gone. Only question is will I be starting on the next iteration of Green, I keep telling myself this is the last time, but it never seems to pan out that way.

[Kluwen2]

Are you going to be upset when Green gets rolled into Blue?

There is absolutely no way that's happening and you know it.

[Gathmuredin]

Even if Blue doesn't merge with Green/Teal or not. What happens when Green/Teal get merged which has to happen at some point right? What if someone has a full account on both or even just 10 chars combined?

[Tilien]

There is absolutely no way that's happening and you know it.

I mean people think this would happen because it's a good idea to let all the dumpster toons sit together instead of breaking up the end game community. Not to mention this seems to be fairly split and not just one sided against merging.

[Swish]

EQ player mentality - "I'm worried about what happens 3 years from now, and thats impacting on my enjoyment today"

[enjchanter]

Dont let green players ruin my blue server plz

[Synthlol]

Hordes of players will be back on blue once they hit 50 and the legacy items are removed. End game in vanilla EQ is really boring.

[Jubal]

Hordes of players will be back on blue once they hit 50 and the legacy items are removed. End game in vanilla EQ is really boring.

Depopulated played out beta servers do historically see massive rebounds for no reason.

[Lhord99]

In before “blue is dead beta server”

:eyeroll:

Play blue, we’re having a grand old time!

[derpcake2]

Depopulated played out beta servers do historically see massive rebounds for no reason.

true, during the summer of savage red hit 40 pop out of nowhere

[wagorf]

green ain't merging with blue, constantly bringing it up isn't going to make it happen

too bad your Manastone or Guise will never become anything special. when green merges with teal, half the server will have those items stocked up

[Tethler]

since the server split, have noticed, very hard to find a group..
not many people on...
Blue is way more functional but everyone left to join green and teal..
Green has many people..
Teal is doesnt.

Now we have what used to be "barely enough" people, split up into 3 servers.

Anyone else notice this?

Tried various classes, but the rule of thumb seems to stay the same, learn to solo everything or load up overwatch.. :)

The difference between green and teal pops is only like 100, so this "green has people and teal doesnt" stuff is nonsense. I play in the middle of the night NA time when only like 300 are playing and find groups without much trouble. Try being a bit more social. Friendlist people that did well in your groups and send them tells the next time you're on. You can't just flag up LFG and sit around waiting to get tells. Be proactive. It's really not that hard.

[Swish]

green ain't merging with blue, constantly bringing it up isn't going to make it happen

got some prof there?

[TripSin]

So far up to level 22 I haven't had much problem getting groups as an enchanter on Teal. A lot of times I'm playing during non-peak hours too and I've never even had to try to actively put together a group either.

[TripSin]

Hordes of players will be back on blue once they hit 50 and the legacy items are removed. End game in vanilla EQ is really boring.

Not having breeze and clarity already makes the game feel a lot more boring to me.

[vossiewulf]

Try being a bit more social.

But I AM totally social, you idiotic jackhole! They just don't answer me for some reason!




JACKHOLE!

[Tethler]

But I AM totally social, you idiotic jackhole! They just don't answer me for some reason!




JACKHOLE!

hah :D

[kjs86z]

haven't had much problem getting groups as an enchanter

incredible!

[Chintofv]

Depopulated played out beta servers do historically see massive rebounds for no reason.

Is there an example of a Beta server with over 10 years of existence? Acting like Blue was some temporary beta server when it actually had a longer life span that almost every MMO minus WoW and EQ itself is pretty asinine.

[mmmroo]

since the server split, have noticed, very hard to find a group..
not many people on...
Blue is way more functional but everyone left to join green and teal..
Green has many people..
Teal is doesnt.

Now we have what used to be "barely enough" people, split up into 3 servers.

Anyone else notice this?

Tried various classes, but the rule of thumb seems to stay the same, learn to solo everything or load up overwatch.. :)

P99 is dead in general, it will all die at this point because nothing is getting fixed anymore.

[mmmroo]

Since no glitches are being fixed on any server, p99 will die and i will play wow classic now where shit gets done.

[Fammaden]

Green is packed, teal is slightly behind it which does make for a notable difference at off peak but still healthy population, blue is just raiders farming loot pinatas at this point and they will not have replacement rates of new players joining to sustain raid guilds when their old players leave.

I do think there's going to be a population crash by around month three to four though, but I'm guessing it settles at 1200 to 1500 overall. Possibly a re-merge will be required before legacy even stops dropping though.

[Siege]

Plan pre-Green launch was to turn Blue from beta to graveyard, current plan is unknown but given how some high play time Green players are pre-emptively clinging to their top-raider status I think devs might cave and make multiple graveyards (which is bad imo).

Caving to the pixel-sick zombies is always a bad idea.

Everything dies, including your digital elves. Deal with it.

[Vormotus]

C

Everything dies, including your digital elves. Deal with it.


https://i.imgur.com/Hh8o9ed.gif

[Tethler]

Since no glitches are being fixed on any server, p99 will die and i will play wow classic now where shit gets done.

lmao, bye! Have fun with that.

[Tilien]

Everything dies, including your digital elves. Deal with it.

That's what I'm saying bro. Deal with you green toons getting dumped into the blue trash pile at end of time line. They're all dead at that point, accept it.

[seconds]

The reason that a select few people don't want Blue to Merge with Green or vice versa is Fat Cats / RMT. You would rather have two markets to have different supply and demand compared one market with a ton of plat/demand and another with ton of availability/supply.

[kjs86z]

Blue has never been better for me.

I was never a fan of the tunnel so the pop drop hasn't affected me at all in that way.

Only thing I've seen are a way higher concentration of pleasant, helpful people and a lot more open camps for the taking.

Green/Teal has been a blessing for us that are perfectly happy with Blue.

[Danth]

Blue's essentially EQ-MAC now. It isn't going to get back to its historic highs, but it can continue for a long time at its new normal.

Danth

[Troxx]

Hordes of players will be back on blue once they hit 50 and the legacy items are removed. End game in vanilla EQ is really boring.

Or when more of the population hits 42-45 and realize that now there’s 1000 people in line for limited xp and cash camps in the few high end zones that support that level of play.

Green/teal will be very frustrating in the final months before Kunark launch. After kunark release there will at least be enough higher end content to support the size of the playerbase without 3-4 hour lfgs to get into a group with too few mobs to be efficient.

As bad as the xp squabbles are presently ... imagine 800-1000+ people trying to eek out experience in solb and lguk at the same time.

[Tilien]

Or when more of the population hits 42-45 and realize that now there’s 1000 people in line for limited xp and cash camps in the few high end zones that support that level of play.

Green/teal will be very frustrating in the final months before Kunark launch. After kunark release there will at least be enough higher end content to support the size of the playerbase without 3-4 hour lfgs to get into a group with too few mobs to be efficient.

As bad as the xp squabbles are presently ... imagine 800-1000+ people trying to eek out experience in solb and lguk at the same time.

I think the thing is many players on Green/Teal came from outside P99, only played on Blue briefly, or have long since forgotten their Blue characters and won't return.

Green has seen week over week peak population decline since early November (~1400 to ~1000), and Teal's population has been declining week over week since mid November (~1000 to ~850). Sure this isn't hordes of people leaving, but it is a few hundred drop in peak population. Blue's peak population has not seen a rise because of this, staying steady in the 500-600 range over the same time.

More likely people will get frustrated and quit p99 altogether than rejoin on Blue, except for those who have mid level or higher toons on Blue already.

[Synthlol]

Or when more of the population hits 42-45 and realize that now there’s 1000 people in line for limited xp and cash camps in the few high end zones that support that level of play.

Green/teal will be very frustrating in the final months before Kunark launch. After kunark release there will at least be enough higher end content to support the size of the playerbase without 3-4 hour lfgs to get into a group with too few mobs to be efficient.

As bad as the xp squabbles are presently ... imagine 800-1000+ people trying to eek out experience in solb and lguk at the same time.

Oh I know. In this era on blue I was usually in kithicor from 45-50 on my cleric using my manastone to solo undead mobs rather than fighting for a spot in group. And we had half the numbers that are on green.

That's a big reason I have zero interest in a fresh server.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

I was never a fan of the tunnel so the pop drop hasn't affected me at all in that way.

I wonder how Boutik is doing. Imagine flipping pixels for years in the tunnel only to end up being a rich elf in a graveyard.

[Hibbs]

After the first server wipe I'm sure a lot of people will go back to blue. I dunno if the novelty of "fresh" will carry green over and over.

/shrug

[Littul Jonn]

After the first server wipe I'm sure a lot of people will go back to blue. I dunno if the novelty of "fresh" will carry green over and over.

/shrug

Nobody is going back to blue.

[Lhord99]

Nobody is going back to blue.

Certainly SOME will go back to blue - they already have.

[Bazia]

right now green has 700 teal has 600 and blue has 300

yikes

[Wallicker]

The extra 100 on green is 100 lvl 50 neckbeards though... with high lvl toons on both servers I can tell you camps/list lines are much shorter on teal but the ratio of assholes to normals seems to be the same.

[wagorf]

That's what I'm saying bro. Deal with you green toons getting dumped into the blue trash pile at end of time line. They're all dead at that point, accept it.

once teal merges with green all the rare items gonna be common as fuck, enjoy your manastone that half the server owns, you will get never to use those items in the blue world

blue will remain healthy as it is with less toxic neckbeards and rmt players, please stay in your server and dont ever move back

[Hibbs]

Nobody is going back to blue.

I dunno man.. you think people are ganna wanna start over, and over, and over???

I def think people will get tired of the restart

[Tilien]

once teal merges with green all the rare items gonna be common as fuck, enjoy your manastone that half the server owns, you will get never to use those items in the blue world

blue will remain healthy as it is with less toxic neckbeards and rmt players, please stay in your server and dont ever move back

If you're against the merge to defend Blue's purity your as wrong as people against a Green/Blue merge to protect Green's purity.

[Tilien]

I dunno man.. you think people are ganna wanna start over, and over, and over???

I def think people will get tired of the restart

No but they'll want THEIR server to be the graveyard locked server and for the PREVIOUS locked servers to simply die out and feed new players to their locked server where they are the new fat cats.

[Littul Jonn]

I dunno man.. you think people are ganna wanna start over, and over, and over???

I def think people will get tired of the restart

I think so too, but people are already on Green.

This, and many other MMOs, have shown thay people play because of a community and dont invest time into two servers or games. Players will pick either green over blue, wow classic over p99, or whatever.

My point is, there's nothing to come back to blue for because the community has already left.

[Troxx]

Nobody is going back to blue.

Many already have. Blue is very much alive; just less saturated with eleventy-billion level 60s. Finding groups 20-59 has been easy. The cool thing is with fewer players groups aren’t so picky with who they invite. 2 clerics? Sure. That druid/wiz lfg? Sure why not.

Raid scene is thriving and cordial. Grouping has returned to the mantra of not always waiting for perfection and mob/max.

Blue ain’t dead. It’s actually more fun.

[wagorf]

If you're against the merge to defend Blue's purity your as wrong as people against a Green/Blue merge to protect Green's purity.

nothing u can do to stop green and teal from merging. same starting point same timeline.

[Naonak]

To Teal or not to Teal

[shuklak]

I think so too, but people are already on Green.

This, and many other MMOs, have shown thay people play because of a community and dont invest time into two servers or games. Players will pick either green over blue, wow classic over p99, or whatever.

My point is, there's nothing to come back to blue for because the community has already left.

Yeah just look at the official eq servers. They churn and burn servers and every new one quickly halves the old server, and then it dies off gradually as the holdouts realize community interaction is what makes eq addictive .

[douglas1999]

Green has been out for five days and there are a lot of people playing on it! The solution? Instance that shit.

[Valeriya]

Green has been out for five days and there are a lot of people playing on it! The solution? Instance that shit.

Fuck off

[Tilien]

nothing u can do to stop green and teal from merging. same starting point same timeline.

I never said I was trying to stop it? lmao what drugs are you on? I could use some.

[zipidi]

Teal is doesnt.

[swoligarch]

I dunno man.. you think people are ganna wanna start over, and over, and over???

I def think people will get tired of the restart

speak for yourself. I will be shitting up that F R E S H until my savior calls me home.

[Fawqueue]

Man, you guys who think we don't have enough people would have truly hated early Blue....

And for the record, early Blue was awesome.

[douglas1999]

Early blue was pretty fun other than that super butthurt nerd and\or group of nerds who kept ddos'ing the server for like a month