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Delfino
11-28-2019, 09:40 PM
For someone not familiar with the process, how does the auction tracker get updated for each item in the wiki?

Vizax_Xaziv
11-28-2019, 10:00 PM
I believe it simply parses log files

Grimstrike
11-29-2019, 12:57 AM
The auction tracker was for BLUE and even that was outdated a bit and missing some things. There is not an auction tracker for Green or Teal, but you could make one if you have the skills and time to dig into it.

bubur
11-29-2019, 01:57 AM
here are the resources i have been using. they aren't perfect but have been useful for me in determining prices. actual prices on teal have generally been higher than the averages shown on the unixgeek site (maybe because it combines wtb and wts?). anyway, its not much data to work with but it helps. kudos to the creators.

https://unixgeek.com/last-week-P1999Teal.html

https://unixgeek.com/last-week-P1999Green.html

https://ahungry.com/eqauctions-live

Grimstrike
11-29-2019, 02:01 AM
here are the resources i have been using. they aren't perfect but have been useful for me in determining prices. actual prices on teal have generally been higher than the averages shown on the unixgeek site (maybe because it combines wtb and wts?). anyway, its not much data to work with but it helps. kudos to the creators.

https://unixgeek.com/last-week-P1999Teal.html

https://unixgeek.com/last-week-P1999Green.html

https://ahungry.com/eqauctions-live

That is a start, thanks for sharing.

loramin
11-29-2019, 12:24 PM
This is all great, but the correct answer to:

how does the auction tracker get updated for each item in the wiki?

is that people (like you!) upload their log files to this page:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Special:AuctionTracker

(Log files can be found by character name in the Logs folder of your EverQuest directory.)

The wiki will then look at people's "WTS" messages in those logs, and add pricing entries to its database based on them. The more people upload logs, the better/more accurate the pricing info will get ... although it will always be a little more skewed towards sellers, as it goes by the WTS price and not the final sale price.

El-Hefe
11-29-2019, 12:32 PM
The auction tracker was for BLUE and even that was outdated a bit and missing some things. There is not an auction tracker for Green or Teal, but you could make one if you have the skills and time to dig into it.

Uhhh there has been auction tracking for Green and Teal for a while.

Delfino
11-29-2019, 12:36 PM
Thanks for the feedback. This validates my initial thoughts.

Frug
12-14-2019, 10:55 AM
here are the resources i have been using. they aren't perfect but have been useful for me in determining prices. actual prices on teal have generally been higher than the averages shown on the unixgeek site (maybe because it combines wtb and wts?). anyway, its not much data to work with but it helps. kudos to the creators.

https://unixgeek.com/last-week-P1999Teal.html

https://unixgeek.com/last-week-P1999Green.html

https://ahungry.com/eqauctions-live

As the author, (apologies for this late reply, but) no, it does not include "WTB" lines (which rarely include values to begin with). It's a simple parser that looks for "WTS <item_name> <price>, ..." where item_name is from a static list of known items in EQ. It does attempt to distinguish between prices in plat, and prices in "k", "kp", etc but beyond that it's not that smart.

It's not perfect, and people put in non-standard lines in weird formats with extraneous numeric data.

With teal/green being up a while now, I can start culling out the stuff that's just wildly outside the "normal" ranges for an item.

Xruptor
12-14-2019, 11:26 AM
For someone not familiar with the process, how does the auction tracker get updated for each item in the wiki?

Here are the steps.


First you need to download GamParse (http://gambosoft.com/Pages/Downloads.htm).

Load up GameParse and then load up a character log from the File menu under 'Load Entire Log File'. Note your logs are in the Everquest folder under logs. (Further note: In order for logging to work you must first turn it on. See this link for further info. https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103441)

Click on the 'Chats' Tab.

Click on 'Auctions' in the list on the left.

Click on 'Save Displayed Results' to your desktop. Something like Auctions.txt or what not.

Visit the following link. https://wiki.project1999.com/Special:AuctionTracker

Click on 'Choose Log' select the auction.txt file.

Type a name for your Contribution. It doesn't have to be your character name.

Select the correct server.

Click on 'Upload'.


It's with these contributions that the auction prices get updated on the wiki.

loramin
12-14-2019, 07:25 PM
Here are the steps.


First you need to download GamParse (http://gambosoft.com/Pages/Downloads.htm).

Load up GameParse and then load up a character log from the File menu under 'Load Entire Log File'. Note your logs are in the Everquest folder under logs. (Further note: In order for logging to work you must first turn it on. See this link for further info. https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103441)

Click on the 'Chats' Tab.

Click on 'Auctions' in the list on the left.

Click on 'Save Displayed Results' to your desktop. Something like Auctions.txt or what not.

Visit the following link. https://wiki.project1999.com/Special:AuctionTracker

Click on 'Choose Log' select the auction.txt file.

Type a name for your Contribution. It doesn't have to be your character name.

Select the correct server.

Click on 'Upload'.


It's with these contributions that the auction prices get updated on the wiki.

None of that is necessary except:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Special:AuctionTracker

You can simply upload your log files, directly from your EQ folder, at that web page ... with no other site or tool being needed.

Xruptor
12-14-2019, 08:34 PM
None of that is necessary except:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Special:AuctionTracker

You can simply upload your log files, directly from your EQ folder, at that web page ... with no other site or tool being needed.

Yes but stripping the logs provides more privacy. If a person doesn't want to upload their entire log.

But yes you are correct loramin, that's also good suggestion as well. I had forgotten to mention that in my post. Thank you for bringing it up. As loramin has suggestion you can upload your entire log and it will automatically parse the Auction data as well.

loramin
12-14-2019, 09:15 PM
Yes but stripping the logs provides more privacy. If a person doesn't want to upload their entire log.

Totally, and I get how that's worth an extra step if you care ... I just wanted to be clear that, for people who don't care, it can be simpler :)

Xruptor
12-15-2019, 09:22 AM
Totally, and I get how that's worth an extra step if you care ... I just wanted to be clear that, for people who don't care, it can be simpler :)

Come to think of it, another good reason for stripping the logs is the size limitation. I believe if your logs are over 2MB you cannot upload it. Stripping out the auction data should allow you to upload well within the 2MB limit. Most of my logs are over 6Mb so unless that 2MB limit is wrong, I wouldn't be able to upload my log. :)

Frug
12-15-2019, 10:16 AM
My home-grown log uploader strips the logs to just auctions, just WTS auctions, just WTS auctions WITH PRICES (well, with digits...), and de-dupes them so (timestamp notwithstanding) there aren't any duplicate lines since people spam the same thing over and over. =D

Xruptor
12-15-2019, 10:29 AM
My home-grown log uploader strips the logs to just auctions, just WTS auctions, just WTS auctions WITH PRICES (well, with digits...), and de-dupes them so (timestamp notwithstanding) there aren't any duplicate lines since people spam the same thing over and over. =D

Yep your site freaking rocks :) Thanks for everything you've done Frug. It's immensely useful for quick lookups!

https://unixgeek.com/eqauctions.html

Frug
12-15-2019, 10:45 AM
Yep your site freaking rocks :) Thanks for everything you've done Frug. It's immensely useful for quick lookups!

https://unixgeek.com/eqauctions.html

Much appreciated. Let me know if you have any ideas for more stuff.

FWIW, every bit of data I put on that site I also upload to the wiki.

loramin
12-15-2019, 12:22 PM
FWIW, every bit of data I put on that site I also upload to the wiki.

https://i.imgur.com/pNwSO.gif

Frug
12-15-2019, 01:14 PM
https://i.imgur.com/pNwSO.gif

Not sure if trolling, but thanks if not.

loramin
12-15-2019, 01:20 PM
Not trolling ... just wasn't trying to be too serious when I said "you're my hero" to some Internet stranger for updating the wiki :)