Why /list exists. Featuring <Seal Team>

[Argh]

Here's a reminder of why /list exists:

https://i.imgur.com/CxuwviU.png

This was at a level 20 goblin for root nets--imagine what it'd be like at manastone camp.

[Endonde]

I mean how are they supposed to kill dragons without root nets?

[SamwiseRed]

12 hours on Thanksgiving. God bless

[Endonde]

I mean really it's kind of smart, you require your members have X item to be eligible for loot. Then you poopsock the fuck out of that item, and force your members to buy them from you.

[Cecily]

I mean how are they supposed to kill dragons without root nets?

Actually, you cant root dragons due to their immunity to run speed changes. This immunity is exploited on raids to generate a large amount of immediate agro on a warrior in a far shorter time frame than should be possible in this era.

Other exploited items include: Midnight Mallet and Soulfire.

Please ban all offenders so Green/Teal doesnt turn into blue. Thank you.

[Bardp1999]

Love my fellow Seals but there isn't a clean neck in the entire lot

[Bazia]

12 hour camping nets on thanksgiving

very cool and normal

[aaezil]

Sad

[p1999Nadril]

Sad

I'm pretty bummed I ever started browsing these forums, it's depressing.

I am sure this sort of stuff happened on Live back in the day, but this is just really sad.

[Nisse]

These guys are camping items to use in Everquest? Does Seal Teams depravity know no limits? Praying 4u

[firesyde424]

Actually, you cant root dragons due to their immunity to run speed changes. This immunity is exploited on raids to generate a large amount of immediate agro on a warrior in a far shorter time frame than should be possible in this era.

Other exploited items include: Midnight Mallet and Soulfire.

Please ban all offenders so Green/Teal doesnt turn into blue. Thank you.

This is inevitable. The basics surrounding raids haven't changed from Blue and so I doubt the result will be any different. A toxic raid scene is, unfortunately, classic.

[Phatez]

Right now root nets are the best agro clickies because the economy is not inflated on this server. They take only 11 pp to recharge while mallets take 500pp to recharge. It is best for our guild to use root nets for agro clickies on our tanks. In order for <Seal Team> members to submit a loot list they are required to farm 4 agro clickies. Root nets and dispel sticks are the currently accepted items on this list.

Enjoy sitting in the corner waiting for me to get mine.

Phatez

[Argh]

https://i.imgur.com/uUGMsY5.jpg

[Endonde]

Right now root nets are the best agro clickies because the economy is not inflated on this server. They take only 11 pp to recharge while mallets take 500pp to recharge. It is best for our guild to use root nets for agro clickies on our tanks. In order for <Seal Team> members to submit a loot list they are required to farm 4 agro clickies. Root nets and dispel sticks are the currently accepted items on this list.

Enjoy sitting in the corner waiting for me to get mine.

Phatez

While this is technically true it's also entirely pointless considering the current state of the game.

I've seen Seal Team's list of required items, and it really looks like all you did is copy/paste the items required in top end Velious guilds without putting much thought into it.

[Ripqozko]

Consider blue

[Lulz Sect]

argh

[Teppler]

The persecution against seal team starting to get tired.

[Horza]

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

[Ripqozko]

I can't wait until we have fap forums for green and teal.

[Erati]

man my mage needs root nets so bad QQ

[Wallicker]

I wonder what his response had been if you said you wanted a few for leveling

[saftbudet]

Suggestion make net camp a list camp also. Will relieve the stress on the poor seals that in frustration arr bullying a random player.

[Wallicker]

Just wait til cleric epic if you think this is bad roflmao

[Modwolf]

Same goes for about any camp. Most if not all guilds will trade money camps to each other before giving it to anyone else.

[Jimjam]

12 hour camping nets on thanksgiving

very cool and normal

And i thought 12 hours camping manastone was peak life wasting!

[SamwiseRed]

They allowed recharging on green? Lmao

[Hazek]

https://i.imgur.com/zcD682U.jpg

[Albanwr]

and people follow him and are willing to join a guild with him in it. Amazing.

[Purplefluffy]

Here's a reminder of why /list exists:

https://i.imgur.com/CxuwviU.png

This was at a level 20 goblin for root nets--imagine what it'd be like at manastone camp.

I also asked and got the same response. As someone whom has been farming for PP in Permafrost for sometime I can confirm that Seal team have been, in part, rotating guild members for a number of weeks (over a month now?) to hold the area of concern. They do occasionally 'slip' and you'll find no one there but that is rare and they seem to aim to hold it 27/7. This is not against the rules, as I understand them, but it does mean organised guilds with dedicated players will dominate.

[Purplefluffy]

12 hours on Thanksgiving. God bless

:D

[akagami]

I wonder what his response had been if you said you wanted a few for leveling

Getting a few takes 5+ hours.

[akagami]

I also asked and got the same response. As someone whom has been farming for PP in Permafrost for sometime I can confirm that Seal team have been, in part, rotating guild members for a number of weeks (over a month now?) to hold the area of concern. They do occasionally 'slip' and you'll find no one there but that is rare and they seem to aim to hold it 27/7. This is not against the rules, as I understand them, but it does mean organised guilds with dedicated players will dominate.

There’s no kind of spreadsheet or ordered rotation. It’s an item required, and an easy but time consuming camp, so people generally give each other a heads up.

There’s no conspiracy here.

[Fifield]

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that these camps are taken like this, Green will be exactly like Blue when it comes to raiding.

Enjoy the classic leveling experience for what it is, maybe raid in kunark if you have a group of people willing to contest with mages like the old days. But my suggestion is to have some casual planar clears with your guild on set raid times throughout classic/kunark. And start raiding in Velious when there is so much more content rather then Nagafen.

[Pozzey]

Love my fellow Seals but there isn't a clean neck in the entire lot

I love this. Finally someone taking responsibility.

[solleks]

If u camp root nets ur a bigot against npc's that move around and probably a racist. Seal team is racist bigots

[cd288]

Lmao this is one of the most sad things I’ve ever seen. Phatez you should feel supremely embarrassed

[Purplefluffy]

There’s no kind of spreadsheet or ordered rotation. It’s an item required, and an easy but time consuming camp, so people generally give each other a heads up.

There’s no conspiracy here.

They have been rotating people. Indeed, the response in this thread states as much when it was said it was an required item for their guild members in order to gain access to other items.

[Netherzul]

You honestly expect a player like Phatezz to have family to spend Thanksgiving with? A Hungry Man tv dinner sitting at his computer playing Everquest has been this guys Thanksgiving for the past 5+ years.

[coolget]

imagine if pvp were enabled

[Mead]

imagine wasting the holidays camping imaginary nets for agro on dragons

[Yoite]

this game isnt that hard, i dont get while yall try so hard

[Pozzey]

imagine wasting the holidays camping imaginary nets for agro on dragons

Dragons from 1999.

<Seal Team>'s whole aim is to impress their 13 year old self.

If that 13 year old could see themselves now... oh the tears.

[Kerwin 5.0]

Sad

[Lulz Sect]

imagine wasting the holidays camping imaginary nets for agro on dragons

imagine posting your imaginary weight gains on a male dominated elf forum on thankSgiving

also no gf

(lol!)

*pinches* 10/10 GF in my laps ass simutaneOusly taps SbMiT rPLY

[Tilien]

To anyone reading this far... If you want this camp, /petition and cause some drama.

Three rules apply:
If you're solo camping an item you must hand off the camp when you get your item

If you are asked who is next you must give a name immediately or else the asker is next

The named person must show up before the next placeholder arrives

http://wiki.project1999.com/Camp_Rules#General_Rules

Start lawer quest now.

[Albanwr]

To anyone reading this far... If you want this camp, /petition and cause some drama.

Three rules apply:
If you're solo camping an item you must hand off the camp when you get your item

If you are asked who is next you must give a name immediately or else the asker is next

The named person must show up before the next placeholder arrives

http://wiki.project1999.com/Camp_Rules#General_Rules

Start lawer quest now.

[Skarne]

This is why <Seal Team> is currently no 1. I respect the hustle, even though it’s unhealthy lol.

[Endonde]

To anyone reading this far... If you want this camp, /petition and cause some drama.

Three rules apply:
If you're solo camping an item you must hand off the camp when you get your item

If you are asked who is next you must give a name immediately or else the asker is next

The named person must show up before the next placeholder arrives

http://wiki.project1999.com/Camp_Rules#General_Rules

Start lawer quest now.

I don't think the rule which states you must pass off the camp when you acquire your item is relevant here because Root nets aren't lore, and the post by Derubael is specifically referencing lore items because in the past players would loot a lore item such as AC ring, and then create a corpse in order to place that lore item on the corpse so that they could loot another.

The rule regarding the passing of the list however should apply, the issue is that generally players use pet classes to farm this item so that they can afk while their pet solos the camp, and it allows a person to hold the camp for a longer than normal period of time. You can simply set up GINA triggers to alert you if the mob spawns, or if you receive a tell while you raid Molten Core, or heaven forbid enjoy a meal with your family.

[shuklak]

I am thankful for this thread.

[cd288]

Right now root nets are the best agro clickies because the economy is not inflated on this server. They take only 11 pp to recharge while mallets take 500pp to recharge. It is best for our guild to use root nets for agro clickies on our tanks. In order for <Seal Team> members to submit a loot list they are required to farm 4 agro clickies. Root nets and dispel sticks are the currently accepted items on this list.

Enjoy sitting in the corner waiting for me to get mine.

Phatez

You’re a sad individual

[Wonkie]

I am thankful for this thread.

[Tilien]

I don't think the rule which states you must pass off the camp when you acquire your item is relevant here because Root nets aren't lore, and the post by Derubael is specifically referencing lore items because in the past players would loot a lore item such as AC ring, and then create a corpse in order to place that lore item on the corpse so that they could loot another.

The rule regarding the passing of the list however should apply, the issue is that generally players use pet classes to farm this item so that they can afk while their pet solos the camp, and it allows a person to hold the camp for a longer than normal period of time. You can simply set up GINA triggers to alert you if the mob spawns, or if you receive a tell while you raid Molten Core, or heaven forbid enjoy a meal with your family.

The lore item camp is a specific example but not used to define the rule (ie they say no corpsing at a contested camp as an example). Further is says the rule can be applied to all camps. Petition away, post screenies, lawyer quest is needed to decide a ruling.

[Valeriya]

Here's a reminder of why /list exists:

https://i.imgur.com/CxuwviU.png

This was at a level 20 goblin for root nets--imagine what it'd be like at manastone camp.

I love Phatezz hes my hero...... so everyone else can suck it

[aaezil]

When does weeks of one guild holding down a camp become zone disruption? Do gms even care/exist on green? Do gms even read this?

[aaezil]

If they will seriously disrupt the zone for weeks just have every other guild to agree to train ice giants on him till he grows up

[Vizax_Xaziv]

PLEASE NERF ITEM RECHARGING ON GREEN/TEAL

It's a horseshit system that gives the top one (MAYBE two?) guilds a huge advantage over anyone below them who would assume to compete for mobs.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

When does weeks of one guild holding down a camp become zone disruption? Do gms even care/exist on green? Do gms even read this?

It's also a PLAYERBASE problem. Seems to me like "reputation" has come to mean jack shit on the P99 servers. Why? Because all the toxicity seems to congregate in the top one or two guilds who themselves ACTIVELY INCENTIVIZE item/zone monopolization.

In Vanilla if you were a well-know douchebag that would essentially disqualify your application to any "serious" raiding guild. The opposite has come to be true here. If you put in the playtime to attend raids and farm "clickies" you're essentially guaranteed a guild tag.

[Valeriya]

Quit crying

[Uuruk]

Right now root nets are the best agro clickies because the economy is not inflated on this server. They take only 11 pp to recharge while mallets take 500pp to recharge. It is best for our guild to use root nets for agro clickies on our tanks. In order for <Seal Team> members to submit a loot list they are required to farm 4 agro clickies. Root nets and dispel sticks are the currently accepted items on this list.

Enjoy sitting in the corner waiting for me to get mine.

Phatez

you should try farming some hair

[baakss]

The same guy who organizes farm crews to compete against his own guild farms jailmaster for 12 hours on Thanksgiving and refuses to create a list for non-guildies?

Ouch.

Tbh I dunno that a guide/gm would be cool with refusing to create a list to hand the camp off. Should probably petition next time.

[Phatez]

When does weeks of one guild holding down a camp become zone disruption? Do gms even care/exist on green? Do gms even read this?

The camp was empty and fully spawned when I arrived Thanksgiving morning.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

A toxic raid scene is, unfortunately, classic.

But that's not universally true. MANY servers had very amicable raid scene that was made possible by rotations. In fact the very idea of "competition" was antithetical to the spirit of the design of EverQuest. The reason EQ launched without any PVP servers, for example, was because the great McQuaid wanted an online MMO built around the spirit of COOPERATION OVER COMPETITION.

A toxic raid scene being "Classic" actually goes against everything the original designers of the game had envisioned.

If the raid scene on Green/Teal ends in a single guild monopolizing 95% of all mobs I for-see a population nosedive as more people reach max level.

[Tilien]

The camp was empty and fully spawned when I arrived Thanksgiving morning.

As I posted you must name the exact person you'll be handing it off to, or else the person asking is next. You cannot hand off "to your guild" but to a specific person you name when asked.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

They allowed recharging on green? Lmao

Yup! It's the same-old horseshit, catering to the most hardcore (and often the most toxic) players.

It's also arguably non-Classic in spirit as VERY few people were recharging items. Certainly not entire hundred-person guilds. IIRC Verant considered recharging an exploit for awhile, before finally removing the ability to recharge items entirely, and could get your account a suspension.

The only argument I could possibly make in favor of item recharging is that at least it provides some sort of gold-sink to the server economy.

[Wonkie]

you should try farming some hair

https://wiki.project1999.com/Tattered_Toupee
https://wiki.project1999.com/Mane_Attraction (+10 CHA)

[Vizax_Xaziv]

To anyone reading this far... If you want this camp, /petition and cause some drama.

Three rules apply:
If you're solo camping an item you must hand off the camp when you get your item

If you are asked who is next you must give a name immediately or else the asker is next

The named person must show up before the next placeholder arrives

http://wiki.project1999.com/Camp_Rules#General_Rules

Start lawer quest now.

Dude I love you! This is great!

[galach]

When does weeks of one guild holding down a camp become zone disruption? Do gms even care/exist on green? Do gms even read this?

I don't see the difference in camping this & idol camp. They are not even lore, so someone could farm it for days on end.

[baakss]

I don't see the difference in camping this & idol camp. They are not even lore, so someone could farm it for days on end.

Yes but if someone requests to be on the list, does the camp owner need to maintain that for when they leave? In this case it seems like the guy says, “Nah I’ll just pick a guildie who wants it at that time.”

[Halox]

Green becoming Blue 2.0? No way. I didn't see this coming.

[Nirgon]

These guys are camping items to use in Everquest? Does Seal Teams depravity know no limits? Praying 4u

lold

[Croco]

Green becoming Blue 2.0? No way. I didn't see this coming.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Green becoming Blue 2.0? No way. I didn't see this coming.

I think some people were cautiously optimistic about the raid scene once the /list mechanic was revealed.
A sense of false hope I reckon.

[Nirgon]

muh root nets

[branamil]

Sorry u didn't get Perma loot

[Siege]

Day sock da poo poo.

[Madbad]

They don't have to maintain a list.

They only have to name the person they are handing off to.

If the camper leaves and the named person isn't there to take camp, its yours.

EZPZ.

[Valeriya]

Sorry u didn't get Perma loot

[Valeriya]

Here's a reminder of why /list exists:

https://i.imgur.com/CxuwviU.png

This was at a level 20 goblin for root nets--imagine what it'd be like at manastone camp.

Quit crying

[shuklak]

Yes but if someone requests to be on the list, does the camp owner need to maintain that for when they leave? In this case it seems like the guy says, “Nah I’ll just pick a guildie who wants it at that time.”

That would be the easy way but still that player then needs to show up. Then of course you can be 100% if someone catches on they will make sure that "list" doesn't change on a whim by having different people ask.

[Valeriya]

This thread makes me sick...... fuck the list you leftists

[Hazek]

As I posted you must name the exact person you'll be handing it off to, or else the person asking is next. You cannot hand off "to your guild" but to a specific person you name when asked.

So just always have a name in mind, whether or not you actually hand it to them. EZ

[Hazek]

Also I see nothing wrong with holding a camp and handing it off to a guildy when you're done. Why is this a thread.

[Valeriya]

Also I see nothing wrong with holding a camp and handing it off to a guildy when you're done. Why is this a thread.

Crybabies that need gms to hold their hand for loot

[Valeriya]

Riots the pinnacle of that aka rooted dragons

[cd288]

Riots the pinnacle of that aka rooted dragons

Are you trying to be like lulz or something and become an infamous forum troll? If so, pls try harder. Your posts are pretty low quality. This is RnF; do better.

[Ravage]

I've dealt with this type of camping scenario with GMs concerning the Storm Feather camp and A.C. On list camps the word was this. The owner of the camp makes the rules. If you communicate and a list is agreed on, screen shot it. Screen shot all of it. If manipulation by the cap holder becomes apparent then petition. Don't waste A GM or Guides time petitioning if you are breaking the rules to hold a camp. It will backfire in your face in a most epic way. Kill logs are present. They can see who killed PHs etc.

If you die, you lose camp. If you leave camp for any reason and someone takes it. You lose it. Those are set in stone. It does not matter if you had to zone a train from squire in Guk. You lose it. Logging over to alt to pick up loot means your alt cannot get that loot. No joke. You are camping for who's present. Logging means you left the list camp.

As far as what this Seal Clubber is doing, it's his camp. He holds the rules. His attrition is a real dick in the booty move on a brand new server. Not in the spirit of this game. Probably should put that effort into a meaningful career, wife, kids, family, gym, tan, laundry, or cooking a fucking turkey on Thanksgiving.


If he wasn't playing on blue he should have. Riot would love him.

Credit to GM Medris for face raping evil doers in these issues. Kept it honest and professional.

[Polixa]

Why on earth would there be a rule that someone camping an item should get to personally choose who is the next person to come over and camp the item once they are done?

What sort of retarded bullshit is that?

[Tuljin]

What do you need nets for, leveling? "Heh" dudes actually flabbergasted that you actually want them for actually playing the game

Here's an idea guys - get your levels and go get in line for gear you won't get so you can get gear for other people that they're going to RMT. The world of "rAiDiNg" aka "workin for the man"

[Canelek]

While technically there is no 'wrongdoing' here, it clearly shows a problem since most quasi-motivated raid guilds can easily have folks available to step in a take a camp.

Since the person(s) camping said camp can do whatever they want with it, assuming that they are keeping things cleared, it is hardly against the rules to pass the camp to guild members/elfpals.

Certainly not against the rules, but definitely cause for contention. I mean, setting a non-legacy item precedent for /list would have a severe ripple effect, obviously, but what to do?

[nostalgiaquest]

If that 13 year old could see themselves now... oh the tears.

[Tilien]

While technically there is no 'wrongdoing' here, it clearly shows a problem since most quasi-motivated raid guilds can easily have folks available to step in a take a camp.

Since the person(s) camping said camp can do whatever they want with it, assuming that they are keeping things cleared, it is hardly against the rules to pass the camp to guild members/elfpals.

Certainly not against the rules, but definitely cause for contention. I mean, setting a non-legacy item precedent for /list would have a severe ripple effect, obviously, but what to do?

I'm gonna go back to the camp rules I posted: Existing rulings state that when you contest a camp the person currently holding it must name the person who they want to hand it off to. Failing that specific person showing up to take camp, you get the camp. i.e. a camper can't hand off to "a guildie" but must hand off to a specific person and must name that person as soon as they're contested.

Further, it says that the camper should relinquish camp after getting their drop.. though someone in this thread argued this should only apply to lore items it does say the ruling can apply to any camp.

At least the first rule will apply to net camp, and someone willing to lawyer quest can argue the second.

[Zal22]

Lulz gets it.

[Pozzey]

*pinches* 10/10 GF in my laps ass simutaneOusly taps SbMiT rPLY

Information & Facts
GF in this context means Gay Friend.

[Pozzey]

I respect the hustle, even though it’s unhealthy lol.

You really think <Seal Team> has anyone with a BMI under 45?...

[Pozzey]

Triple posting is fully legal and somewhat cool.

[Mikebro]

you should try farming some hair

A+

[branamil]

Phatez is a sexually dominant alpha male you incels. I know at least 50 human women watched his live stream of Nagafen and gushed their panties on the server first kill

[YendorLootmonkey]

In my day, skill was about having the discipline to let the MT establish aggro first, and then everyone started attacking, and managed their own aggro by knowing when to turn off auto-attack if the mob started flipping. What's this millenial root net/mallet crap anyway?

[Wallicker]

Even if they disabled recharges these guilds would just farm mallets and root nets, no way to prevent this from happening it is part of the game now bar removing them all together or just make them useable by any class but war

[Mead]

imagine posting your imaginary weight gains on a male dominated elf forum on thankSgiving

also no gf

(lol!)

*pinches* 10/10 GF in my laps ass simutaneOusly taps SbMiT rPLY

https://i.imgur.com/lGSSoqM.gif

[Bazia]

anyone with a maxed level blue character should be banned from green, it's the only way to be sure these disgusting weirdos dont ruin it

[kjs86z]

12 hours on Thanksgiving. God bless

[Purplefluffy]

I'm gonna go back to the camp rules I posted: Existing rulings state that when you contest a camp the person currently holding it must name the person who they want to hand it off to. Failing that specific person showing up to take camp, you get the camp. i.e. a camper can't hand off to "a guildie" but must hand off to a specific person and must name that person as soon as they're contested.

Further, it says that the camper should relinquish camp after getting their drop.. though someone in this thread argued this should only apply to lore items it does say the ruling can apply to any camp.

At least the first rule will apply to net camp, and someone willing to lawyer quest can argue the second.

Well, I think it is neither here nor there as to "can't hand off to a guildie" as that named person can be a guildie regardless.

[Tilien]

Well, I think it is neither here nor there as to "can't hand off to a guildie" as that named person can be a guildie regardless.

Meaning that you can't just say an unnamed person in your guild will be next. Your guild can have a rotation set up to make it easy to name the next person.

[Wallicker]

Or the guild has a shared root net farming toon, /q to force LD and new person logs it in 45 seconds later...

[Tenlaar]

Meaning that you can't just say an unnamed person in your guild will be next. Your guild can have a rotation set up to make it easy to name the next person.

You seem to be implying that if I was at a camp, and planned to be there for the next seven hours, that some server rule would force me to start maintaining a list an hour into that seven hours and if I don't do that then I lose the ability to pass the camp off who to whomever I choose to six and a half hours later when I'm going to leave soon.

I have to call bullshit on this.

[Wallicker]

As far as I know besides /listed accounts the current campholder can pass the camp off to whomever they please, see stormfeather camp from blue for example. Is it a dick move to skip over others who wanted the camp next to give it to a friend? Yes. is it a violation of the rules? Not yet.

[Vheran]

Hi have you tried not playing by waiting in line for 12 hours? Hope this helps

[BlackBellamy]

You seem to be implying that if I was at a camp, and planned to be there for the next seven hours, that some server rule would force me to start maintaining a list an hour into that seven hours and if I don't do that then I lose the ability to pass the camp off who to whomever I choose to six and a half hours later when I'm going to leave soon.

I have to call bullshit on this.

There is no list, unless you mean a list of one. You have to name the one person you will pass the camp to at the moment someone asks, whether that's right after you arrive or five hours down the line or whatever.

When you're done with the camp, the person you named has to arrive within a few minutes after the PH pops otherwise the person who originally asked gets it. Once you name the person, you can't change your mind. If that particular person doesn't arrive to claim the PH, it's too bad.

[Tenlaar]

There is no list, unless you mean a list of one. You have to name the one person you will pass the camp to at the moment someone asks, whether that's right after you arrive or five hours down the line or whatever.

This is the part that I'm calling bullshit on. You are saying that if I have a camp and somebody asks me if there's a list I'm not allowed to say "nope, and I'm not going to keep one either."

Buuuuullshit.

[Polycaster]

There’s no conspiracy here.


Which is exactly what people in a conspiracy would want us to think!!

They have been rotating people. Indeed, the response in this thread states as much when it was said it was an required item for their guild members in order to gain access to other items.

Akagami and OP said they rotate people, Akagami merely denied that it is planned ahead of time.

Why on earth would there be a rule that someone camping an item should get to personally choose who is the next person to come over and camp the item once they are done?


Why on earth should there be a rule either way? Stop being such an over-socialized bugman.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

In my day, skill was about having the discipline to let the MT establish aggro first, and then everyone started attacking, and managed their own aggro by knowing when to turn off auto-attack if the mob started flipping. What's this millenial root net/mallet crap anyway?

That's because "recharging" was essentially a non-utillitzed mechanic during Classic. The ubiquity of item-recharging on the P99 server is completely nonsensical. Instead of letting skill prevail it gives a huge advantage to the guild or guilds with the greatest number of people available to camp raid clickies. ALSO the guild(s) w/ the greatest amount of coin in their guild banks!

NERF RECHARGING AND FIX THE PROBLEM!!!!

[Vizax_Xaziv]

anyone with a maxed level blue character should be banned from green, it's the only way to be sure these disgusting weirdos dont ruin it

I always rallied for a "Green" server launching alongside Velious on Blue. Would've kept the majority of the hardcore neckbears on Blue to farm their Velious Pixels.

Instead we let Velious run for what, 3 years? before launching Green. All those neckbeards are at/near BIS on Blue so now theyre shittin' up Green/Teal.

[Tilien]

This is the part that I'm calling bullshit on. You are saying that if I have a camp and somebody asks me if there's a list I'm not allowed to say "nope, and I'm not going to keep one either."

Buuuuullshit.

You're allowed to say "nope" and by saying nope it means you forfeit your ability to pick whose next, that's all.

[Bazia]

I always rallied for a "Green" server launching alongside Velious on Blue. Would've kept the majority of the hardcore neckbears on Blue to farm their Velious Pixels.

Instead we let Velious run for what, 3 years? before launching Green. All those neckbeards are at/near BIS on Blue so now theyre shittin' up Green/Teal.

whats funnier is that they are doing "required clickies" to 50 man raid classic content that was casually cleared for months by like 11 people during classic red99

[Tenlaar]

You're allowed to say "nope" and by saying nope it means you forfeit your ability to pick whose next, that's all.

Nothing that I have ever seen leads me to believe that this is true, and the fact that this is the first I've ever heard of anything remotely like this after playing off and on here for almost seven years suggests that you are pulling this interpretation out of a place lacking in sunlight.

[Tilien]

Nothing that I have ever seen leads me to believe that this is true, and the fact that this is the first I've ever heard of anything remotely like this after playing off and on here for almost seven years suggests that you are pulling this interpretation out of a place lacking in sunlight.

Please refer to the link that explicitly states this ruling.

[Vallaen]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Rulings#Camp_Waiting_Lists

Pretty clear-cut, and these exact rules have been around in one form or another for quite some time. I really need to compile a "Project 1999: Errata and other extraneous information" post to put all this stuff. For now, this will have to do:

Camp holder has the right to pass the camp to whoever he would like. However, and this is very important, two things must happen in order for this to be a legitimate hand-off:

1) The player being handed the camp must be present around the time the first placeholder spawns after the last holder of the camp has gotten his or her item in hand. The person handing off the camp must stay at the spawn until the next person in line arrives, if that person is on their way to take the camp. There is a little leeway here, and we refuse to set an exact timer on how long the placeholder can be up before the camp is forfeited, but in general it should never be for more than a couple minutes or so. We tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the person coming in to take the camp in these situations as CSR staff, so waiting a bit longer will never hurt. W

2) The person holding the camp cannot mislead you, or change his mind after telling you who is next. Something that no one ever does (and I will never understand why) is to specifically address the camp holder, asking who is next or if you can be next. The camp holder does need to reveal to you who the next intended camp holder is - if he doesn't, you may ask to be next and your claim will be valid unless he reveals the next person immediately. This person cannot change after the camp holder has "revealed" the next person to take the camp to you. It is an automatic forfeit if this occurs. If you ask to be the next camp holder and are told yes, the camp holder may not later retract or change this agreement and attempt to hand the camp off to someone else - it's yours once he has gotten his item or moved on from the camp.

Something else important to note about handing off camps - in particular, popular ones, but this applies to any camp that becomes contested. If you are solo camping, once you attain the item you were waiting for (an AC ring, for example) you are done camping that mob. The person coming to take the camp had better be prepared at this point in order to come eliminate the very next placeholder spawn in order to "stake his claim" on the mob. You cannot work wacky corpse lines on lore items in order to grab multiple items in the same "camp session" if there are others waiting to take the camp. Please be aware that we reserve the right to apply this same ruling to any camp if we deem it necessary, including camps with multiple players.

[Tenlaar]

Please refer to the link that explicitly states this ruling.

I believe that your interpretation of the rules is adding something that isn't there. Like I said, nothing that I've seen indicates that a person who isn't being deceptive loses the right to hand the camp off to whomever they choose simply because somebody else wants the camp way early.

I would need to see a GM specifically say that if somebody asks me if there's a list right after I log in and take an empty camp and I say "nope and I'm going to be here all day so I'm not keeping one" then I lose the right to choose who I hand the camp off to seven hours after that.

[Tilien]

I believe that your interpretation of the rules is adding something that isn't there. Like I said, nothing that I've seen indicates that a person who isn't being deceptive loses the right to hand the camp off to whomever they choose simply because somebody else wants the camp way early.

I would need to see a GM specifically say that if somebody asks me if there's a list right after I log in and take an empty camp and I say "nope and I'm going to be here all day so I'm not keeping one" then I lose the right to choose who I hand the camp off to seven hours after that.

Another poster copied and pasted the text from my link I'll add it again:

"The camp holder does need to reveal to you who the next intended camp holder is - if he doesn't, you may ask to be next and your claim will be valid unless he reveals the next person immediately. This person cannot change after the camp holder has "revealed" the next person to take the camp to you"

[akagami]

Akagami and OP said they rotate people, Akagami merely denied that it is planned ahead of time.


So wait, if a guildie, who I know needs the item/camp, sends me a tell, “Hey man, you almost finished there? Can I take over?” I should tell him to fuck off and that the camp must be opened to the general public?

Cause this is what is going on. Not some mass effort to deny the camp to the public.

[Tenlaar]

Unless I see a GM flat out say that a person who plans on holding a camp for the next seven hours is not allowed to wait until they're half an hour away from leaving to decide who to hand the camp off to I am going to continue to say that you are interpreting the rules in a way that I have never seen them interpreted here for over seven years.

[Tilien]

So wait, if a guildie, who I know needs the item/camp, sends me a tell, “Hey man, you almost finished there? Can I take over?” I should tell him to fuck off and that the camp must be opened to the general public?

Cause this is what is going on. Not some mass effort to deny the camp to the public.

That's not what anyone said. If a specific person wants next then you can only say "no" if you have a specific hand off in mind.

Additionally, if you let someone claim next then you cannot change your mind and give it to a guildie instead at a later point.

[Tilien]

Unless I see a GM flat out say that a person who plans on holding a camp for the next seven hours is not allowed to wait until they're half an hour away from leaving to decide who to hand the camp off to I am going to continue to say that you are interpreting the rules in a way that I have never seen them interpreted here for over seven years.

To quote the staff on previous rulings... One more time:

"The camp holder does need to reveal to you who the next intended camp holder is"

Tell me how YOU would interpret this.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

whats funnier is that they are doing "required clickies" to 50 man raid classic content that was casually cleared for months by like 11 people during classic red99

Wait what? The clickies are REQUIRED to raid w/ them?

If that's true I'll tell you why: As I said, it gives them a huge preparation-advantage over any other guild that would seek to compete for raid mobs. The guild w/ 200 rootnets and 50 slowhammers is, obviously, going to have a huge advantage. Not to mention the guild bank funding requirements of constantly recharging that huge number of clickies.

[Tenlaar]

To quote the staff on previous rulings... One more time:

"The camp holder does need to reveal to you who the next intended camp holder is"

Tell me how YOU would interpret this.

That if you are keeping a list you have to be honest about it.

I do not see it as saying that players are required to either maintain a list hours and hours out or lose the ability to pass the camp to whomever they please. You are saying that if I get a camp at 10 am on my day off and I plan to stay there until 7pm, and I know that a bunch of my friends will be logging in between 5pm and 7pm, I am not allowed to wait knowing that I will have a friend online who might want the camp. That I'm not allowed to say to somebody at noon "I'm not keeping a list" without losing the ability to pass the camp off to a friend seven hours later. That is the part that I'm calling bullshit weird interpretation on.

[Tilien]

That if you are keeping a list you have to be honest about it.

I do not see it as saying that players are required to either maintain a list hours and hours out or lose the ability to pass the camp to whomever they please. You are saying that if I get a camp at 10 am on my day off and I plan to stay there until 7pm, and I know that a bunch of my friends will be logging in between 5pm and 7pm, I am not allowed to wait knowing that I will have a friend online who might want the camp. That I'm not allowed to say to somebody at noon "I'm not keeping a list" without losing the ability to pass the camp off to a friend seven hours later. That is the part that I'm calling bullshit weird interpretation on.

And your interpretation here:

"If he doesn't, you may ask to be next and your claim will be valid unless he reveals the next person immediately. "

So this is "if you're keeping a list but it's empty you need to give spots to people waiting". Seems kinda weird to interpret it that way.

[shuklak]

If someone asks to be on the list they're on the list... everything else just sounds like games to hand off to a friend.

"Sorry you missed the 19 second window I was opening a list bro"

[Tenlaar]

What you guys are saying is that every player, at every camp, is required to maintain and honor a first come, first serve list for the camp. That all throughout the day I have to keep track of the first person to ask about the camp, and every time another person asks about it I have to check and see if the first person is still online, and if they're not then I have to start keeping track of this new person and see if they're online the next time somebody asks, etc, and then seven hours later I wouldn't be able to offer the camp to a friend unless that cycle of people asking about the camp was broken.

You are saying that players are required to maintain lists for camps, and that is the opposite of players being free to hand camps off to whoever they choose.

[shuklak]

What you guys are saying is that every player, at every camp, is required to maintain and honor a first come, first serve list for the camp. That all throughout the day I have to keep track of the first person to ask about the camp, and every time another person asks about it I have to check and see if the first person is still online, and if they're not then I have to start keeping track of this new person and see if they're online the next time somebody asks, etc, and then seven hours later I wouldn't be able to offer the camp to a friend unless that cycle of people asking about the camp was broken.

You are saying that players are required to maintain lists for camps, and that is the opposite of players being free to hand camps off to whoever they choose.

Lol, what... are you saying you're too busy?

[Bazia]

im sure everyone would like a "person who waited here gets priority" situation but I cant imagine the CSR nightmare that would come from that kind of conflict of interests between players

[Tilien]

im sure everyone would like a "person who waited here gets priority" situation but I cant imagine the CSR nightmare that would come from that kind of conflict of interests between players

As opposed to the conflict of interest of handing off camps only to your buddies?

Or are you saying "I'm sure we'd all like people to follow the official rulings of the staff, but it doesn't fit my raiding guild's requirements".

[Bazia]

no i mean im sure everyone except anti-social competitive weirdos would prefer that style ruling but people still wouldnt comply and then a guide would be bugged every 3 minutes

[Albanwr]

Don't matter what the rules are, we have seen the staff not willing to uphold them, so why bother.

[Vallaen]

Prison rules!

[shuklak]

Don't matter what the rules are, we have seen the staff not willing to uphold them, so why bother.

Fte on all mobs that drop rechargeable items.

[Tenlaar]

Lol, what... are you saying you're too busy?

That has nothing to do with it. I'm saying that the prevailing stance is that players are free to hand a camp off to whoever they choose and also that players are not required to maintain a list if they don't want to. What you guys are saying here is the exact opposite of that.

[Not_Mikeo]

Just do what <Seal Team> does at the manastone camp and train the shit outta him then make fun of him while telling him you trained him.

[Lhord99]

Actually... Green/Teal is already turning into a more sophisticated and elaborate blue. Thank you.

ftfw

[Tethler]

That has nothing to do with it. I'm saying that the prevailing stance is that players are free to hand a camp off to whoever they choose and also that players are not required to maintain a list if they don't want to. What you guys are saying here is the exact opposite of that.

Except that isn't the prevailing stance, it's only your ignorance of the rules. There is a clear ruling that has been linked and pasted here.

[Valeriya]

Except that isn't the prevailing stance, it's only your ignorance of the rules. There is a clear ruling that has been linked and pasted here.

Shut up

[Neverwinter27]

Guys, just let the guild camp these things, it's all they got left in their lives. What does puzzle me is that why they left Blue or Red since I would assume camps are less contested for them now since the population is lower for either server and not harass the new players who want to try out the game on Green/Teal.

[Uuruk]

Guys, just let the guild camp these things, it's all they got left in their lives. What does puzzle me is that why they left Blue or Red since I would assume camps are less contested for them now since the population is lower for either server and not harass the new players who want to try out the game on Green/Teal.

Most likely they were non factors on blue and want to feel special so they devoted 16 hours a day to fucking everquest.

[Tilien]

Most likely they were non factors on blue and want to feel special so they devoted 16 hours a day to fucking everquest.

I fully agree with this... the people going hardest on Green are jealous of what the Blue tunnel fat cats and/or hardcore raiders had and are trying their darndest to poopsock, manipulate, scheme, and exploit in order to monopolize the early economy.

[Tethler]

You really think <Seal Team> has anyone with a BMI under 45?...

I propose renaming the guild <Manatee'm> to properly illustrate guild fat content.

[Neverwinter27]

Back then, did Fires of Heaven or AfterLife acted the same way as this guild has?

[aaezil]

Back then, did Fires of Heaven or AfterLife acted the same way as this guild has?

Most old school players know that on original eq if you ran around acting like a dipshit like these seal team dudes you would be barred from joining any respectable guild.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Most old school players know that on original eq if you ran around acting like a dipshit like these seal team dudes you would be barred from joining any respectable guild.

Yup! I said this the other day: reputation means almost nothing on the P99 servers. Hell 95% of the biggest douchebags and RMTers have been members of P99s top raid guilds.

Real damned shame

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Guys, just let the guild camp these things, it's all they got left in their lives. What does puzzle me is that why they left Blue or Red since I would assume camps are less contested for them now since the population is lower for either server and not harass the new players who want to try out the game on Green/Teal.

Because for these sick people it's not just about getting loot for themselves. Equally important is the denial of loot from others.

Blue is essentially dead now, therefore they have nobody to gloat over.

[turbosilk]

This is a great thread highlighting why green and teal should never merge. Leave that on green. Haven't seen these levels on teal.

I doubt get farming content all hours of the day for over 5 years and goota farm the same old pixels boxing on green, teal and blue. Make 100 servers and they are playing 100 accounts.

[shuklak]

Most old school players know that on original eq if you ran around acting like a dipshit like these seal team dudes you would be barred from joining any respectable guild.

I had a rl friend in afterlife and he was nothing like modern eq raiders.

Well, he played eq all fucking day but he wasn't an asshole as much.

[Nitsude]

Hey Argh ;)

Hardcore raiders did have these attitudes back then, at least on Rallos Zek. The major difference back then was the less hardcore weren't challenging a lot of camps because these items weren't widely known about. Like others have said recharging was also not widely known.

The great equalizer on Rallos Zek was your actions affected your reputation. If you and by extension your guild were known as assholes people would not group with you, port you, transfer items for you. If your reputation was bad enough you became kill on sight. Reputation meant a lot since on a PvP server you were always vulnerable to being attacked if you trusted the wrong person.

Did that stop the assholes from playing? No. Assholes grouped with each other, ported each other, etc. It did, however, encourage everyone else to be better people to each other, and overall made for a better community. Could that work on green/teal? This early in the game? It would be a huge undertaking and a large dynamic shift from blue attitudes.

Like the past 10 years, neckbeards gonna neckbeard.

[DMN]

I had a rl friend in afterlife and he was nothing like modern eq raiders.

Well, he played eq all fucking day but he wasn't an asshole as much.

I knew plenty of people in KoEG, FoH, only knew one or two people in afterlife though, And everyone in my guild SoN. all were server "uber" guilds. It's like anywhere else. There is always a few ass hats, a few good guys, and the majority "generally decent" between the two.

[Lulz Sect]

i wonder how these cry babby elveS handle the competitive IRL world

[Videri]

i wonder how these cry babby elveS handle the competitive IRL world

RL has GMs too. A lot of them.

[Valeriya]

i wonder how these cry babby elveS handle the competitive IRL world

Bunch of losers that need gms to hold their hand for loot...... I think the list is garbage and isnt classic... Actually nothing about p99 is classic and who cares about the cry babies who cant get loot on their own its pretty pathetic to implement a list in classic EverQuest. Quit crying and compete for your loot like a true gamer

[Lhord99]

Bunch of losers that need gms to hold their hand for loot...... I think the list is garbage and isnt classic... Actually nothing about p99 is classic and who cares about the cry babies who cant get loot on their own its pretty pathetic to implement a list in classic EverQuest. Quit crying and compete for your loot like a true gamer

Allergic to commas.
Avatar and signature check out.
Well played, fuhrer.

[Valeriya]

Allergic to commas.
Avatar and signature check out.
Well played, fuhrer.

I'm not here to be politicly correct you leftist Ill type however I want!!

[Lulz Sect]

RL has GMs too. A lot of them.

https://i.imgur.com/yET2LeU.jpg

[Nisse]

Guys, calm down. I'm putting you on the list, and I WILL message you when I'm done here. I promise.

[Pozzey]

Bunch of losers that need gms to hold their hand for loot...... I think the list is garbage and isnt classic... Actually nothing about p99 is classic and who cares about the cry babies who cant get loot on their own its pretty pathetic to implement a list in classic EverQuest. Quit crying and compete for your loot like a true gamer

Less QQ more PewPew.

[Polixa]

Back in 1999 people took months and months to hit L50. Your character's reputation meant a lot because you were living your character for a long time and couldn't afford to screw that up.

But on G/T we are seeing people hit 50 and kill dragons in no time flat. They have shelved their first 50 an are working on their second or third. They have 8 accounts. They don't give a toss about the reputation of their characters because they are all disposable.

[Hazek]

Bunch of losers that need gms to hold their hand for loot...... I think the list is garbage and isnt classic... Actually nothing about p99 is classic and who cares about the cry babies who cant get loot on their own its pretty pathetic to implement a list in classic EverQuest. Quit crying and compete for your loot like a true gamer

Scream into a pillow as loud as you can with no restraint (at your own risk, this isn't professional advice and you could harm your vocal chords). Accumulative anger is a real phenomena and letting it trickle out in comments will never release it. Speaking from experience. And this isn't some new age nonsense. Gotta get that energy out i'm tellin you.

[Hazek]

Bunch of losers that need gms to hold their hand for loot...... I think the list is garbage and isnt classic... Actually nothing about p99 is classic and who cares about the cry babies who cant get loot on their own its pretty pathetic to implement a list in classic EverQuest. Quit crying and compete for your loot like a true gamer

Not that I agree or disagree with your comments besides the idolatry of the Israeli President.

[cd288]

I'm not here to be politicly correct you leftist Ill type however I want!!

Pls make your trolling better. People come here for entertainment not low effort posts

[Canelek]

There are at least a baker's dozen of conservative cockbags that troll way harder than that dumb cunt. Low-effort posts indeed.

[Wonkie]

Less QQ more PewPew.

that's what they tell you after you have surgery

based nurses

[cd288]

There are at least a baker's dozen of conservative cockbags that troll way harder than that dumb cunt. Low-effort posts indeed.

I have no problem with any political angle. I just wish he’d do better/be more clever. I come here for quality RnF content and his comments are just kinda boring

[shuklak]

Back in 1999 people took months and months to hit L50. Your character's reputation meant a lot because you were living your character for a long time and couldn't afford to screw that up.

But on G/T we are seeing people hit 50 and kill dragons in no time flat. They have shelved their first 50 an are working on their second or third. They have 8 accounts. They don't give a toss about the reputation of their characters because they are all disposable.

Well, that's just because boxing back then wasn't as prevalent as it is today.

[imsorryGMs]

Imagine phatez still thinking he's good at this game.

[Natewest1987]

Right now root nets are the best agro clickies because the economy is not inflated on this server. They take only 11 pp to recharge while mallets take 500pp to recharge. It is best for our guild to use root nets for agro clickies on our tanks. In order for <Seal Team> members to submit a loot list they are required to farm 4 agro clickies. Root nets and dispel sticks are the currently accepted items on this list.

Enjoy sitting in the corner waiting for me to get mine.

Phatez

Actually pathetic.

[Valeriya]

Actually pathetic.

Shut up you cry baby... Phatezz is way cooler than you

[Valeriya]

Everyone knows the group formerly known as TMO is pathetic. I honestly suspect most of them are on full time disability and probably play EQ with one of those mouth controlled mice. Can you really deny them this one place where they can be better than other people with functioning bodies in real life?

P99 would undoubtedly be 10x more popular and fun if this group of players was banned whenever they popped up simply for how much staff time they've wasted with RMT, training, cheating, and all the rest. They must donate a lot of money to be left alone.

Either that or like I said, who can deny a bunch of cripples their special olympics?

Shut up you leftist

[Naonak]

This is all some people have in their lives, god bless them.

[Jimjam]

Why on Earth put root nets on farm for days on end...

They are 11pp, how many characters donyou really need tk distribute them to when there is only like one killable boss fight in game?!

[Naonak]

In the future, 100s easily needed. Planning for the future I guess

[shuklak]

Why on Earth put root nets on farm for days on end...

They are 11pp, how many characters donyou really need tk distribute them to when there is only like one killable boss fight in game?!
Planning ahead for luclin.

[Pozzey]

How much are root nets going for?

I might quit my $100k job, divorce my big titted super model wife, trade in my Ferrari (more than you can afford pal) and monopolise.

That'll show those nerds.

[firesyde424]

But that's not universally true. MANY servers had very amicable raid scene that was made possible by rotations. In fact the very idea of "competition" was antithetical to the spirit of the design of EverQuest. The reason EQ launched without any PVP servers, for example, was because the great McQuaid wanted an online MMO built around the spirit of COOPERATION OVER COMPETITION.

A toxic raid scene being "Classic" actually goes against everything the original designers of the game had envisioned.

If the raid scene on Green/Teal ends in a single guild monopolizing 95% of all mobs I for-see a population nosedive as more people reach max level.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. And, eventually, instancing made its way into the EQ raid scene. However, instancing isn't "classic" and as such will never be seen on the P99 servers.

Unfortunately, literally nothing has changed from the raid scene on blue. Because of that, there is no reason to believe that the green\teal raid scenes will be any less toxic.

You don't have to go back very far on the blue raid forums to find Rogean and Nilbog handing out raid suspensions. Go back far enough and you can find entire guilds being banned outright from the game. Rotations are good in theory as long as everyone agrees to follow the rules. Since that almost never happens, rotations generally cause more drama than they prevent.

[ItsDeckard]

I had a list adventure today. They're imperfect and people have somehow found ways to be scumbags about it but if I have to choose between over leveling it and soloing it or grouping for it with friends versus having a bunch of try hards keeping camp for months on end, I guess I'll take the list. This is one of those times where I feel like there's a better way to do it but I can't personally offer any suggestions.

Hope you're doing well Tani.

[arsenalpow]

Yikes

[Polycaster]

What you guys are saying is that every player, at every camp, is required to maintain and honor a first come, first serve list for the camp. That all throughout the day I have to keep track of the first person to ask about the camp, and every time another person asks about it I have to check and see if the first person is still online, and if they're not then I have to start keeping track of this new person and see if they're online the next time somebody asks, etc, and then seven hours later I wouldn't be able to offer the camp to a friend unless that cycle of people asking about the camp was broken.

You are saying that players are required to maintain lists for camps, and that is the opposite of players being free to hand camps off to whoever they choose.

Stop saying that we are saying things that we are not saying, know what I'm saying?

[Valakut]

can I get on the list?

[shuklak]

can I get on the list?

There is no list.

[stewe]

Right now root nets are the best agro clickies because the economy is not inflated on this server. They take only 11 pp to recharge while mallets take 500pp to recharge. It is best for our guild to use root nets for agro clickies on our tanks. In order for <Seal Team> members to submit a loot list they are required to farm 4 agro clickies. Root nets and dispel sticks are the currently accepted items on this list.

Enjoy sitting in the corner waiting for me to get mine.

Phatez

How truly pathetic can ppl on p99 get, these items arent needed for a raid, see i was part of the raiding scene back in the original EQ and we never used cheap pathetic tactics like this, raiders on this server would be considered jokes back in the original and made fun of for being so bad at the game they needed exploitable items to kill raid bosses, anyone that brags about killing raid mobs on p99 are a joke, all these mobs have been killed decades ago and are EZ mode now.

[stewe]

In my day, skill was about having the discipline to let the MT establish aggro first, and then everyone started attacking, and managed their own aggro by knowing when to turn off auto-attack if the mob started flipping. What's this millenial root net/mallet crap anyway?

^^^ This

[cd288]

How truly pathetic can ppl on p99 get, these items arent needed for a raid, see i was part of the raiding scene back in the original EQ and we never used cheap pathetic tactics like this, raiders on this server would be considered jokes back in the original and made fun of for being so bad at the game they needed exploitable items to kill raid bosses, anyone that brags about killing raid mobs on p99 are a joke, all these mobs have been killed decades ago and are EZ mode now.

Agreed. It's also just simply not necessary since the loot isn't even really worth it from a Naggy or Vox raid. Why waste hours of your life camping these "required" raid items for Seal Team for shitty loot? lol

[shuklak]

Agreed. It's also just simply not necessary since the loot isn't even really worth it from a Naggy or Vox raid. Why waste hours of your life camping these "required" raid items for Seal Team for shitty loot? lol

Nothing else to do.

[Zekayy]

In my day, skill was about having the discipline to let the MT establish aggro first, and then everyone started attacking, and managed their own aggro by knowing when to turn off auto-attack if the mob started flipping. What's this millenial root net/mallet crap anyway?

Because sadly on p99 agrro is broken here and will never be fixed the taunt button does not work right it actually resets your aggro insteads of actually you know taunting mobs thats why you need mallets and other clickies to hold aggro back in 99 you didnt need aggro clickies to hold aggro cause it worked right here and other servers it doesnt.

[douglas1999]

I really hate recharging. Nerf that shit for the love of god k thx

[cd288]

Because sadly on p99 agrro is broken here and will never be fixed the taunt button does not work right it actually resets your aggro insteads of actually you know taunting mobs thats why you need mallets and other clickies to hold aggro back in 99 you didnt need aggro clickies to hold aggro cause it worked right here and other servers it doesnt.

Is there actually proof of this? Because that’s interesting