/List Story with Poll

[Seungkyu]

I've been at the Rubicite BP camp for about 18 hours, I've brought over 10 replacements, but this time the group looks done for. No Tanks Lfg.

Wait there's hope! A group of 5 looking for a room to kill...but I'm still grouped with 3 others that are relatively new.

So I speak honestly, "Guys, the group looks screwed but I'm #1 on the list and plan on staying and bring those 5 guys over. If you want to leave the group I understand"

Mitosis the Druid says, "NP, GL Buddy, thanks for the group! Anyone want a port?" :)
Hindolmer the Rogue says, "Makes no difference to me"
Petigru the Mage says, "Whatever you want, it's up to you"

So I apologize, and thank them at the same time. Offering items I've looted during my adventures.

Petigru receives the gift and replies "Yipee!" I smile.

The group of Five encounter many deaths along the way, but make it eventually. I decide to offer gifts, and prizes of other Rubicite and goods to the members.

When the Five arrive I notice something odd...Hindolmer and Petigru are still here, and on the list. When I ask why they're still there.

Hindolmer: "You thought I would leave? I'm #2 on the list, why shouldn't I stay?"
Petigru: I have seen the greed in your heart and I see no reason I should not act the same way"
Hindolmer and Petigru glare at you threateningly.

At this point the Five notice those other two aren't leaving as well. They offer to camp the breastplate for me, but I insist they leave. They offer their condolences and move on to new adventures.

I told both Hindolmer and Petigru: "May you receive in full for this treachery you have brought this day!"

The question of the story is were Hindolmer and Petigru acting evil, or were they justified?

[greenspectre]

So I understand it you left a group of 3 that couldn't kill the camp to join a group of 5 that could. Then you gave them some "consolation prizes". When you arrived with the group that was able to kill, the other 2 people were still there and the large group didn't want to camp 3 BP's before getting their own so they left.

I don't see anything wrong here. That's the way /list works, unfortunately. Unless you specifically indicated that you wanted your former groupmates to leave the zone and/or the camp and they said they would, I don't see them as having done anything wrong.

TLDR: Nobody's Pure of Heart or acting deceitfully, this seems like a miscommunication thing and all parties are neutral.

[Seungkyu]

So I understand it you left a group of 3...

I never left them, I gave them a choice to continue the group or disband.

I don't see how I could come off as
"Hey I'm really sorry, but let me bring 5 guys over who can just camp the BP for you".

[greenspectre]

I never left them, I gave them a choice to continue the group or disband.

I don't see how I could come off as
"Hey I'm really sorry, but let me bring 5 guys over who can just camp the BP for you".

They disbanded, but unless they agreed to drop from /list they didn't do anything wrong. But I don't think you did anything wrong either. Just seems like nobody fully communicated their intentions before the initial group disbanded.

[zillabunny]

Hindo on a roll I saw him get his jboots this morning

[Phaezed-Reality]

Basically, im seeing the same names over and over, and boy, im not supposed to say anything. But DMO is keep EXTENSIVE records.

ANYONE and i mean ANYONE caught scumming to 50, and camps. will have MOUNTAINS of evidence compiled against them. Our scribes are working overtime due to the toxicity of these player interactions, so much so that we probably will be offering our services to any guild recruitment and giving you the 411 on these people.

rep matters on this server bro's. Don't blow it. < The Dark Men of Odus > elite unit of scribes are watching. and we have ear's everywhere.

In the elf justice system, bad player based offenses are considered especially heinous. In Erudin, the dedicated scribes who investigate these vicious bad players are members of an elite squad known as the < Dark Men of Odus > . These are their stories.

[Fammaden]

So these guys who'd been camping it with you for hours you just threw them under the bus in favor of five mercenary newcomers? And expected them to be happy and leave because you threw them some trinkets?

Maybe the remaining two were working on building a new group without you after you abandoned them?

Why did you tell the other five to leave when they had no problem just farming the mobs regardless?

What would have happened after you got a BP? Were you going to stay to see all FIVE of those dudes get theirs too? Would one of the other two have been able to just slot into the group after you got a BP and left, since the other five didn't mind just killing anyway?

What class are you?

[Tilien]

Maybe the remaining two were working on building a new group without you after you abandoned them?



This right here: OP tells them to drop group so that he can get a group of 6 for the kill, which as stated sounds like you bribed the 5 into helping you not that you offered them spots on the list. This doesn't mean that the other listers are unable or unwilling to get their own new group for their turn.

"Don't list unless you kill the mob... OR if you're me. I'm an exception."- OP

[solleks]

nerds

[Wallicker]

This right here: OP tells them to drop group so that he can get a group of 6 for the kill, which as stated sounds like you bribed the 5 into helping you not that you offered them spots on the list. This doesn't mean that the other listers are unable or unwilling to get their own new group for their turn.

"Don't list unless you kill the mob... OR if you're me. I'm an exception."- OP

^^^ this OP you are the the one who is the shitbag and ironically that isn’t an option on your heavily biased poll.

[Rynon]

nerds

Lol.

[Seungkyu]

OP tells them to drop group so that he can get a group of 6 for the kill, which as stated sounds like you bribed the 5 into helping

"Don't list unless you kill the mob... OR if you're me. I'm an exception."- OP

#1 I didn't tell them, I asked first and then they said it's fine.

#2 I didn't bribe the five, they offered to help me out out of the goodness of their heart.

#3 Your literally putting words in my mouth, then attacking me for it. Do you realize what kind of person this makes you?



^^^ this OP you are the the one who is the shitbag and ironically that isn’t an option on your heavily biased poll.

Right before reading this post I gave away Rubicite Boots away for FREE to someone I met a couple times for being nice. I'm not rich, I got 200pp in the bank.

Not everyone is like Wallicker and Tilien, who just decide to make up stuff, then call people pieces of shit.

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! :)

Edit:Ironically the person I gave the boots to said "Oh that was you on the forums?? I read it earlier"

"the general discussion forums aren't a super friendly encouraging place"

Haha

[Bookie]

They disbanded, but unless they agreed to drop from /list they didn't do anything wrong. But I don't think you did anything wrong either. Just seems like nobody fully communicated their intentions before the initial group disbanded.

Perfect summary instead of your long winded post OP

[Seungkyu]

Perfect summary instead of your long winded post OP

I'm trying to entertain people, and make the story sound fun while keeping things factual.

I'm wondering if Petigru and that Dwarf rogue are the ones doing this.

Edit:Hindolmer*

[Fammaden]

That's super cute how you just learned about BOLD, why so mad tho?

[Seungkyu]

That's super cute how you just learned about BOLD, why so mad tho?

Thanks for calling me cute. I'm having fun with the bold.

Don't you have something better to do on Thanksgiving than taunt me? Lol and here I am talking to you.

[Nirgon]

If you cant handle the spawn and you're #1, just get the hell outta there. Too bad. Quit being retarded and selfish.

[Solist]

OP selfish brat.

[Tilien]

#1 I didn't tell them, I asked first and then they said it's fine.



#2 I didn't bribe the five, they offered to help me out out of the goodness of their heart.




#3 Your literally putting words in my mouth, then attacking me for it. Do you realize what kind of person this makes you?







Reading between the lines, perhaps your dramatic flair is a bit too dramatic. You unilaterally told your group you're bringing 5 people to group with. This is presented as a statment. Then, with the knowledge that you will have a group of 6, you tell people they are free to leave if they choose.
This is opposed to asking the 3 and THEN inviting the 5 once you knew there was room in group.


As for the bribe: "I decide to offer gifts, and prizes of other Rubicite and goods to the members."

Sounds awful bribey.


I also like how the group of 5 was supposedly willing to get YOU your bp despite the facts and you insist they leave on your own morality about how the /list should work.

[Seungkyu]

Dramatic
Too dramatic? Yeah it seems like people decided to just reinterpret the story however they want. I think this is a valid point.

Unilateral
It was not a unilateral decision to bring other people and kick the current members out. I asked if they preferred continuing the group or not. This was not presented as a statement.

I did not invite the five prior to asking what they wanted to do. I agree this would be an asshole move...which is why I wouldn't do it.

Bribery
I didn't tell them I was going to give them gifts. My plan was to surprise them as a thank you once the BP dropped.

The Five
They weren't supposedly* willing to help me get my breastplate. They were okay with me being on the #1 spot.

They literally wished me luck and offered condolences. I was even invited to their guild earlier that day.

Reading Between the Lines
Don't do this Tilien, your deductive skills are terrible. Your like a detective who imprisons the wrong person for life.

Edit: I mean...you got about 5-6 things wrong about the situation and me through this one thread. So much that I had to make a long post to explain to you how many conclusions you jumped to.

Edit Edit: I mean Geez I bolded some of the words for you. It's like I highlighted them. Wait are you just trying to get a rise out of me as a joke? I'm honestly confused.

[Seungkyu]

OP selfish brat.


I've given away two rubicite items with fifty plat in the bank. Prove yourself more generous than me.

Give your in game name, and give evidence of you giving people you just met thousands of platinum in items in Green or Teal.

Make people happy. DO IT!

[zodium]

I've given away two rubicite items with fifty plat in the bank. Prove yourself more generous than me.

Give your in game name, and give evidence of you giving people you just met thousands of platinum in items in Green or Teal.

Make people happy. DO IT!

by your own account you didn't make people happy at all tho?

[jackd104]

This game is bad for you.

[Modwolf]

If they knew this would occur they would have said no. They thought more were coming to the list and were OK with not getting exp so the list could resume.

[BlackBellamy]

Prove yourself more generous than me.

said no generous person ever

[Wallicker]

So you did or didn’t disband your group with the #2 and #3 on the list then invited a group of 5 guild mates to help you and just expected the listed #2 and 3 to leave?

[Evets]

This game is bad for you.

QFT

[radda]

TLDR:all parties are neutral.

10/10 OP

[Cen]

This is too technically difficult for the devs but I think it should work like normal until your placement is 6 or less (group max size) once you are in front 6, the item is rewarded randomly to the 6 in front. Thats basically how the classic game would have went :p

[gkmarino]

You're an idiot OP. Anyone on the list deserves to be there if they are willing to be active in helping kill the PH / Room when necessary. Just because you tried to hijack a new group to preserve your #1 spot doesn't mean that anyone else on the list YOU personally exclude doesn't deserve to be there and be rewarded for their time spent previously.. Idiot.

[Wwen42]

The #2 guy would be #2 forever without people killing it and getting the drop right? Why would he leave? He's gotta wait no matter what if he wants that BP, even if he has to get people for it after the current #1 get the BP. Item politicks is so weird. It'd be cool to get Ruby stuff for my ranger, but hearing the wait times makes me lose all interest. I'm not that thirsty for 1s and 0s.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

So you did or didn’t disband your group with the #2 and #3 on the list then invited a group of 5 guild mates to help you and just expected the listed #2 and 3 to leave?

OP is garbage and is too stupid to understand.

[Siege]

I'm glad I don't understand anything I just read.

[Darkslide632]

<-- Hindolmer.

Glad I'm not the only one who found the situation ridiculous. I was still there. I was still helping down mobs even though I didn't get xp.

And he didn't just expect us to leave, he demanded it. I had been there several hours at that point. There was no discussion of keeping the group going, there was a message that he had 5 people willing to come help since he was #1 on the list. I said it didn't matter to me. Why would it? I'm #2 on the list. They showed up and started killing stuff, I helped. Then I started getting tells demanding that I leave and telling me how terrible I am because I didn't.

[knucklehairs]

Too bad I will never see the results of this poll it's missing
#1 thinks he is better then a GM and sets the rules and if you dont believe him he will make a post about it

[zillabunny]

<-- Hindolmer.

Glad I'm not the only one who found the situation ridiculous. I was still there. I was still helping down mobs even though I didn't get xp.

And he didn't just expect us to leave, he demanded it. I had been there several hours at that point. There was no discussion of keeping the group going, there was a message that he had 5 people willing to come help since he was #1 on the list. I said it didn't matter to me. Why would it? I'm #2 on the list. They showed up and started killing stuff, I helped. Then I started getting tells demanding that I leave and telling me how terrible I am because I didn't.

How those jboots???

[Darkslide632]

How those jboots???

The boots make sneaking a lot less painful, I'll tell ya that!

[cd288]

#1 I didn't tell them, I asked first and then they said it's fine.

#2 I didn't bribe the five, they offered to help me out out of the goodness of their heart.

#3 Your literally putting words in my mouth, then attacking me for it. Do you realize what kind of person this makes you?





Right before reading this post I gave away Rubicite Boots away for FREE to someone I met a couple times for being nice. I'm not rich, I got 200pp in the bank.

Not everyone is like Wallicker and Tilien, who just decide to make up stuff, then call people pieces of shit.

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! :)

Edit:Ironically the person I gave the boots to said "Oh that was you on the forums?? I read it earlier"

"the general discussion forums aren't a super friendly encouraging place"

Haha

“AFTER I got roasted for my crappy biased post/poll, I gave away something for free so I could go use it to rebut the roasting. Tell me how nice I am!”

[sedrie.bellamie]

This game is bad for you.