Demkites

[Geroth]

Kittens guy jumping a group camping a named spawn in hk just because the rules allow him to take it since we weren't sitting on camp and ph was up? Hmm doesn't sound like the kittens I know... thus this post.... grats Demkites on using the rules to allow you to be a jerk.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Your post exactly describes a camp that is open. What is the issue here?

[Geroth]

yep outdoor zone rules, he didn't break them but is doing the obvious jerk move of jumping a camp that isn't sitting on the spawn to claim it by the rules then claiming it

this is allowed by the rules and a well known jerk move

[Geroth]

its just pgt camp, im posting this to bring some light to his name in case he makes a habit out of it he will get known earlier ;p

[Argh]

What named mob? Why were you not near the mob & why was it up? How should he have known it was camped if you weren't there and it was up?

[racloon]

Dude, you said yourself in OOC chat you were camping the below greens for scalps. I offered the placeholders for XP, and you and Wunine both said you already have PGT and Shield. The salt is real. Non-stop OOC tears for what 15 minutes still? Tried to resolve it with ya but no dice.

Demkites

[ZiggyTheMuss]

So no rules were broken, you just felt like coming here and crying.

Got it.

[shuklak]

Kittens turning into stray cats

[Geroth]

im mitigate btw, I did not say anything that I was camping in ooc

anyway no rules were broken no, and i'm not crying over a mob i already have the drops from, im bringing light to a person saying we werent camping it because we werent sitting on its face (which yes the rules will work in his favor for) a kos guard is right around the corner from the named to me im an ogre.

but no im not really mad, just think i'll bring light to the situation because toxic players tend to stay toxic

we were down the ramp from pgt named btw

[Geroth]

So no rules were broken, you just felt like coming here and crying.

Got it.

btw troll much?

[Hellfox]

No dude. You said "CC' I said "Gnolls" you said "the names of the named gnolls, like I know their names by heart" and later, when I realized you jumped our camp and called you out, in the discussion that ensued... I said "oh yeah when I said "gnolls" I meant the green ones on the low deck... sarcastically, b/c noone is dumb enough to say "gnolls" and mean... "yaknow the green ones... just for scalps, why xp with a group?"

[Hellfox]

Had I realized your intention was to come try and camp the named from under us we'd have sat "directly on top of the spawn" or whatever technicality you're using to be a rude-guy.

[Polixa]

If you are camping the PGT mob you don't have to sit on its spawn point, same with any named in any dungeon. You should have told him you were camping it though, if that was your intent, assuming you were aware of his presence killing mobs in the vicinity.

If he just snuck in and sniped it while your group was prepping to kill it, having been killing the placeholders, then he shouldn't have done that.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Definitely not crying and definitely not mad

Got it.

[Hellfox]

Okay so here's the story.... group camped at gnolls... pulling to the bottom of the ramp area... b/c we had evils and don't want to sit directly on top of respawns 10 ft. from a guard...

The Druid guy this thread is named after ooc'd "CC?"

I said "gnolls"

He said "im going to camp 'nameofgnoll' and 'nameofgnoll'

I didn't say anything b/c I didn't know what he was talking about, and if I just said "gnolls" he knows we're camping... the gnolls. I also don't memorize the names of specific gnolls.

I'd been camping gnolls with various people for like 5 hours by now with numerous people taking home PGT's and shields, and I had a copy of both from the previous day. Just there to xp and get the drops for new people cycling in and out of the group. Long established camp needless to say.

So he invis'd past us and sat in the back where the PH and named roamer actually spawns into the world. when I called him out he brought up this technicality and played dumb thinking I actually meant the lower green con gnolls when I responded to his CC, hense the sarcasm.

[Geroth]

Ya the point of me making this thread is that he knew he was being rude and tried to fake like he just innocently came in and took the camp, using a sarcastic response as an excuse, walking straight thru a group obviously camping a named.

Seen it happen tons, not fooling anyone by playing like you didn't know the named was taken. If this was a high value target it would be a big serverwide story of him being a prick.

Some people play eq like it is a single player game, demkites even said he can just solo the rest of the game doesn't need others lol

[nostalgiaquest]

Some people play eq like it is a single player game, demkites even said he can just solo the rest of the game doesn't need others lol

Role playing an incel in game. Thats pretty meta.

[shuklak]

How can you be sure he was roleplaying?

[kotton05]

Who had FTE?

[Legidias]

Okay so here's the story.... group camped at gnolls... pulling to the bottom of the ramp area... b/c we had evils and don't want to sit directly on top of respawns 10 ft. from a guard...

The Druid guy this thread is named after ooc'd "CC?"

I said "gnolls"

He said "im going to camp 'nameofgnoll' and 'nameofgnoll'

I didn't say anything b/c I didn't know what he was talking about, and if I just said "gnolls" he knows we're camping... the gnolls. I also don't memorize the names of specific gnolls.

Ignorance is never an excuse.

[shuklak]

Ignorance is never an excuse.

Only in the eyes of the law.

[racloon]

Ya the point of me making this thread is that he knew he was being rude and tried to fake like he just innocently came in and took the camp, using a sarcastic response as an excuse, walking straight thru a group obviously camping a named.

Seen it happen tons, not fooling anyone by playing like you didn't know the named was taken. If this was a high value target it would be a big serverwide story of him being a prick.

Some people play eq like it is a single player game, demkites even said he can just solo the rest of the game doesn't need others lol

LMAO no the point of you making this thread, after crying and moaning for 30 minutes in OOC and SHOUT, is to get some validation for your pathetically week mental. I needed an item you already had and couldn't loot. I am the toxic one? You come here to drag my name through the mud for a low lvl melee weapon. The GM came and sided with me so /shrugs

I never said I would just solo the rest of the game LMAO. You said you vowed to NEVER group with me. I let you know how much your opinion of me mattered and how torn I was about the idea. This isn't Dawsons Creek. Dry them tears up and get over it. This a hardcore game with rules in place for a reason. If I need an item and your not going to take the time to read 1 page to camp rules I am not going to inflate your ego by begging you for a camp you don't need. And you say I'M the toxic one. Make like Elsa and let it go bro.

[Polixa]

So the answer to CC was 'gnolls', newcomer claims Mucktail, doesn't get nixed on that.

I think the group has responsibility for not knowing the name of the mob they are camping. Based only on what I read here I don't see fault by the newcomer and feel OP owes an apology.

[Valeriya]

Kittens guy jumping a group camping a named spawn in hk just because the rules allow him to take it since we weren't sitting on camp and ph was up? Hmm doesn't sound like the kittens I know... thus this post.... grats Demkites on using the rules to allow you to be a jerk.

quit crying

[Legidias]

Good ole' backfire RNF threads. 5/5 stars, would read again

[Hellfox]

I'm not ignorant... I'm just assuming the non-ignorance of the community. If you're camping gnolls you're camping the named that paths around the spawn and the gnolls that drops xp... not the fucking lower deck that leads to EK. those are annoying and worthless and just part of the camp... no body camps those and hands over the top.

[Valeriya]

I'm not ignorant... I'm just assuming the non-ignorance of the community. If you're camping gnolls you're camping the named that paths around the spawn and the gnolls that drops xp... not the fucking lower deck that leads to EK. those are annoying and worthless and just part of the camp... no body camps those and hands over the top.

Shut up and go outside

[Hellfox]

As I said in game, after reviewing the rules, you actually violated them. There's nothing that says you have to sit directly on top of a pathing PH to hold it. Our camp was legit and set up at the bottom of the ramp for a reason. The named and the named PH path on a consistent basis to within like 20 yards of where we were. You just jumped to the back of the area and prevented him from pathing out to where we were pulling to.

If anything you subverted the intention of the rules for nothing more than a stupid PGT... which I noted didn't drop for you for like 5 hours? That's funny b/c as soon as you left another PGT dropped w/in minutes.

We weren't upset about the stupid drops. You're fucking up an xp grind for nothing dude. If the GM "sided w/ you" its b/c I didn't ever talk to them or explain the layout of the camp or bitch and moan and hope they did something. I just came here to clarify... you are rude... you are in violation, you're toxic. Bye

[Valeriya]

Who cares....... Shut up Hellfox

[shuklak]

As I said in game, after reviewing the rules, you actually violated them. There's nothing that says you have to sit directly on top of a pathing PH to hold it. Our camp was legit and set up at the bottom of the ramp for a reason. The named and the named PH path on a consistent basis to within like 20 yards of where we were. You just jumped to the back of the area and prevented him from pathing out to where we were pulling to.

If anything you subverted the intention of the rules for nothing more than a stupid PGT... which I noted didn't drop for you for like 5 hours? That's funny b/c as soon as you left another PGT dropped w/in minutes.

We weren't upset about the stupid drops. You're fucking up an xp grind for nothing dude. If the GM "sided w/ you" its b/c I didn't ever talk to them or explain the layout of the camp or bitch and moan and hope they did something. I just came here to clarify... you are rude... you are in violation, you're toxic. Bye

The real lesson here, unfortunately, is that whoever complains to a gm first gets the benefit of the doubt. Until they start penalizing cey wolf or liars then Lawyer99 is the name of the game.

Time to load up OBS and lawyer up.

[Chintofv]

All this over a granite polished tomahawk. Sheesh. Glad every toxic player stayed on Blue, leaving Green and Teal to the non toxic players. It sounds like a total paradise. Had a good lol over the threat the OP made to never, ever group with the druid. Bet he will rue the day he got on your bad side.

[AgentEpilot]

If the GM "sided w/ you" its b/c I didn't ever talk to them or explain the layout of the camp

Please, explain the layout of the camp to a GM and let us know how that works out.

[Hellfox]

I'll just get used to higher lvl anons coming to steamroll any area with an item drop. No worries. ;) As per the rules he was in the wrong. OP dude I was grouped with just didn't read them himself and bought the BS dude laid down.

but yeah, who fuckin cares. oh well

[greenspectre]

I think this is a "both parties at fault" thing.

First, if someone says "gnolls," no reasonable person would think Grenix and Vexven were not included in that. I've never heard of a gnolls group that didn't want PGT and CDS.

However, if someone ooc's "claiming Vexven and Grenix" and you had that camp, you SHOULD ooc back that you were claiming them. You should definitely know the mobs you're after, or at least do a quick wiki search to confirm.

HOWEVER however, if you park your butt on the top shelf and the group that was already there restates that they are camping the gnolls to include PGT, you should scoot along. Miscommunication was all.

As for who is technically right at this point under the rules, I'd say it's a wash.

[Valeriya]

I think this is a "both parties at fault" thing.

First, if someone says "gnolls," no reasonable person would think Grenix and Vexven were not included in that. I've never heard of a gnolls group that didn't want PGT and CDS.

However, if someone ooc's "claiming Vexven and Grenix" and you had that camp, you SHOULD ooc back that you were claiming them. You should definitely know the mobs you're after, or at least do a quick wiki search to confirm.

HOWEVER however, if you park your butt on the top shelf and the group that was already there restates that they are camping the gnolls to include PGT, you should scoot along. Miscommunication was all.

As for who is technically right at this point under the rules, I'd say it's a wash.

Nobody cares

[Polixa]

Valeria, get yourself a sock and you won't need to take shit in every post you write.

[Valeriya]

Valeria, get yourself a sock and you won't need to take shit in every post you write.

That's what RNF is for

[Videri]

I think this is a "both parties at fault" thing.

First, if someone says "gnolls," no reasonable person would think Grenix and Vexven were not included in that. I've never heard of a gnolls group that didn't want PGT and CDS.

However, if someone ooc's "claiming Vexven and Grenix" and you had that camp, you SHOULD ooc back that you were claiming them. You should definitely know the mobs you're after, or at least do a quick wiki search to confirm.

HOWEVER however, if you park your butt on the top shelf and the group that was already there restates that they are camping the gnolls to include PGT, you should scoot along. Miscommunication was all.

As for who is technically right at this point under the rules, I'd say it's a wash.

This is right and reasonable.