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axisofebola
11-21-2019, 07:08 PM
A tale of mad and badness in misty thicket.

So I'm killing the gate guards in misty thicket. This necro Kantok sits just behind me where I'm killing them, and he sits there an unusual amount of time with no tells/activity, maybe in excess of two hours.

He finally messages me, asking if I'll tell him when the camp is free. I say sure, no problem. He leaves.

Fast forward another hour or two. A warrior named Hadwin(?)was looking for a SoW for CR. Now, i usually wouldn't do this for most people but for a warrior I figured I'd take the time to help him out. So I told him I'd hit him with SoW after i clear the next respawn if he stays near the RV entrance.

So I go SoW Hadwin. Come back to camp and 1 of the 4 mobs I'm usually killing has respawned, which is normal since the lower level ones die faster they repop a little sooner. But here is Kantok back again claiming this camp is his because "I left" it. Not only were most of the guards dead when he arrived, their corpses were still rotting on the ground, and this guy 100% knew I was camping them.


So I offer to help him split some guard spawns in RV so he could kill there(where the exp is much better I might add) and I could stay in misty. He of course says no because this is "his camp". Eventually it boils down to us claiming single spawns and everything else is FTE.

At one point all the guards respawned at about the same time. Kantok pulls 3 guards and then FDs right on top of me. Of course I get aggro and I'm running around giving him an earful for training me in tellst . At the same time kantok jumps up pulls one of the guards to him and in his zeal to kill as fast as possible and get as many FTE as possible manages to drop himself into critical HP. So of course the 2 mobs he dropped on me run over to him and kill him.

Pretty hilarious, I thought, and at that point i could have petitioned he trained me and he'd have a vacation. But upon seeing how much of a moron this guy was, I was not sure this training was the result of malice or just dipshittery. So I wasn't going to do that unless he did it again, but he then messages me that HE is going to petition ME for training HIM. LOL.

in any event, I think Kantok got a much needed vacation. You really need to chill out, dude, and stop making enemies over such trivial shit.

Lulz Sect
11-21-2019, 07:30 PM
enjoy your ban

axisofebola
11-21-2019, 07:43 PM
enjoy your ban

Was that you lulz? It's hard to believe you could be an even shittier player than you are a poster.

AgentEpilot
11-21-2019, 07:46 PM
More bans = more big sips

azeth
11-21-2019, 08:11 PM
Kantok sure sounds like a piece of shit based on one side of this story. Well written rnf with appropriate name n shame. I give this 9.5/10

shuklak
11-21-2019, 10:04 PM
Kanteq

Lulz Sect
11-22-2019, 08:19 PM
Was that you lulz? It's hard to believe you could be an even shittier player than you are a poster.

https://i.imgur.com/JimuwVx.jpg

shuklak
11-22-2019, 09:06 PM
Tipping heavily in defendant's favor...

Big sip.

axisofebola
11-22-2019, 09:38 PM
lmao just found this post, merry left out a couple of points

first point she missed was she was gone for over 10mins
other point she missed was she was mad i didnt "contest the camp or stake a claim (i was only one above level 4 in zone when i got there



First off, I was not gone anywhere near 10 minutes. I ran to the RV zone line, cast SoW and came back. That's a max of 3 mins. Sorry, but people killing guards for either exp or cash don't make it a habit to leave mobs for no good reason. I can run and med on med ticks and be back to my spawn before it fully repops with 100% mana and ready to go.

Since you are dumbfuck noob necro, you don't quite understand then when you kill 4 at once the lower level ones die first and will repop sooner. You saw one up, and you saw I was sitting in my normal meditation spot that you sat staring at me for hours sitting in early and thought it would be a great time to try to camp steal.


another wrong part was she said i trained her, she sat (literally) 2 feet from the gate and wouldnt move despite me asking 5x cuz im pulling, she didnt then complained when she got aggro.




Now this is where everyone reading this knows you are a liar. if I was sitting so close to the guards I would have got the aggro myself. You are in an outdoor zone where you can pull mobs in up to 180 degrees out of the gate. You deiced to pull them straight to where I was meditating instead of any other direction. It's not my job to always make sure your stupid noob necro ass isn't going to dump a train on me when I play EQ. it's your job to not drop them on other people, otherwise it's training.


on top of that she left out the part where she ran around guards in a circle over me to have them to try to aggro me, or the part where she rooted mobs where i was kiting


I never rooted mobs you were kiting i rooted mobs I had FTEs on and you were too stupid to realize I had done so, though. You literally died like 15 seconds after you tried to get up from FD. I really didn't have much time to do much running at all let alone in circles. i had about enough time to hit numblock and type you out a tell how stupid you were, You got that plat lust and weren't paying attention to your health, like the dumb noob you are.


funny you made a post about it and left out all the major parts to it ( like how u werent in zone for over 10mins when i got there, or the fact i only do 2 guards and they were dead well before you got there)



No, i came up behind you while you were killing the lowest level one and was deciding how i was going to approach this since i clearly knew you were trying to camp steal. Like everyone killing guards in misty knows your camp stealing antics.

there s only like a 6 min spawn in misty if I was out of zone for 10 minutes with travel time from RV that would have given 2 full sets of repopped guards. Again easy to veify this guy is a liar.

tinyvoodoo
11-22-2019, 10:06 PM
Sounds like you were mad that you lost the camp you left and Kantok took over. You sat just outside of aggro range so that when he did pull, he’d have no choice but to train you. You petition, you rant, some sort of salty justice?

You obviously were mad about him taking over the camp, so instead of realizing the rules of EQ since 1999 of you need to be present to hold a camp, you decided to try to play dirty.

Remind me to avoid you at the Christmas holiday party.

axisofebola
11-22-2019, 10:22 PM
You can log in your alt accounts to support you all you want. No one is buying that you had to train someone in an outdoor zone. you could have pulled to the left at an angle or right at an angle. You had tons of space. You were trying to be an asshole and train me off my camp, though. karma bit your noob necro ass in the ned.

if you want a good laugh check out clown shoes previous post, oh the irony:






special rules everywhere
can only use certain movement spells to get "first to engage"
gm rotations


i left awhile ago (years) because i met maybe 2-3 gms and all were pretty corrupt
(pretty sure one got fired for training, the other im not sure, but clear favoritism bc of a guild tag. Unless it was fair that someone can come into your camp you been at for hours, train you, and then they get camp when gm gets there bc....not sure)

is the raid scene really this bad? for a server striving for a "competitive" feel, it seems you took all the competition out of it and it turns into who can run faster with sow to engage it first and if stuff goes wrong it turns into who the gm likes more?

dont mean to rant, and not trying to flame, as far as i can tell it seems everything ive said so far has at very least 1 forum speaking on it...

guess my question is, what gives? why such the coddling of the raid scene? what happened to competition?

was thinking about green, but between the population being bananas, camps on perma sock, and a coddled raid scene make it seem so less appealing

to each his own, but imo, this takes the very spirit out of the game, esp in terms of competition

tinyvoodoo
11-22-2019, 10:31 PM
You can log in your alt accounts to support you all you want.

Calm down, Hitler... nobody speaks for me.

Just because you show your ass in public doesn’t mean everyone is going to kiss it.

Madbad
11-22-2019, 10:58 PM
If you arent in zone, you aren't camping shit.

Valeriya
11-22-2019, 11:03 PM
If you arent in zone, you aren't camping shit.

says who?

axisofebola
11-22-2019, 11:03 PM
If you arent in zone, you aren't camping shit.

Like I said, it was totally elf lawyered out. 2 claimed spawns, everything FTE. He as losing the FTA race and decided plan b. Train me when knows I just completed a quad and had low mana.

Valeriya
11-22-2019, 11:04 PM
Who cares go outside

BlackBellamy
11-22-2019, 11:07 PM
Who cares go outside

This did take place in an outdoor zone.

Valeriya
11-22-2019, 11:09 PM
This did take place in an outdoor zone.

Trump Approves!

axisofebola
11-22-2019, 11:30 PM
elf lawyered out LOL

lost fte race? i killed them before you zoned back in/got to camp

if you think sitting where i been pulling is training you, i cant help this level of dumb

for that im sorry, the dellusions are too strong with this one

You tried to elf lawyer someone who left their camp for 3 mins to SoW a warrior begging for one at the zone line of the same zone; you got your wish. You lost the FTE races and then acted like a bitch by trying to train me when you realized how much you fucked up, and it ended up blowing up in your dumb necro noob face and you ate an exp death on top.


Talk about levels of dumb.

axisofebola
11-22-2019, 11:49 PM
I'm going to also add that the previous night when Kantok was killing the same gate guards, I asked him if he knew if the other guards were camped or not . He said Shaquille was killing felp. i saw felp spawned but also his corpse on the ground. Kantok told me to just to steal his camp, cause he'd "do the same thing to me".

Valeriya
11-22-2019, 11:51 PM
Nobody cares

axisofebola
11-22-2019, 11:52 PM
Nobody cares

Apparently your stupid ass does.

Valeriya
11-22-2019, 11:53 PM
Apparently your stupid ass does.

Quit crying

axisofebola
11-22-2019, 11:55 PM
Quit crying

5 of your 180 posts are in the thread you don't care about. You've really become a pretty shit tier sideshow on RNF.

Valeriya
11-22-2019, 11:55 PM
Thank you for your feedback

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:03 AM
imagine stalking forums because youre that bad, dont understand the rules, and want to keep your camp despite zoning for double digit minutes at a time, while being dellusional about the facts

imagine being that dude, found a new low at the very least

quit crying you nerd

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:07 AM
I'm not mad lol

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:08 AM
90% of the time im laughing at RNF

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:09 AM
telling people to shut up because youre happy?

if so thats a new thing to me, most people complain when mad

Not really..... Its funny and makes me laugh. go outside you nerd

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:16 AM
with all the telling people what to do and calling them nerds

you fooled me, still are

think you need to learn the terms mad and funny

whatever libturd

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:19 AM
#mad

Aphexx2886
11-23-2019, 12:25 AM
Fuckin Val I'm glad your back :)

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:27 AM
Fuckin Val I'm glad your back :)

Rustling jimmies is a full time job

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:35 AM
rustling jimmies? is that what you call dropping into a thread and giving nothing but shut up nerds?


people round here just call it being a douche, where you from they call it that?

Obv your offended

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:38 AM
Dont be a Cecily

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:41 AM
im offended? because i asked clarification? or because i showed you the word everyone else uses for it?

and how would either of those offend me?

your just puking out words at this point with no meaning lol

Quit crying

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:43 AM
Not really lol..... you really think i care about what your saying you should know this by now

AgentEpilot
11-23-2019, 12:45 AM
jimmy rustling is an ancient and noble profession, my pappy's pappy's pappy was doing it as all the fore fathers before him did. Nothing like waking up the beginning of the harvest and smelling as those freshly rustled jimmies.

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:46 AM
What about you.... you seem to be giving it a lot of attention lol

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:46 AM
jimmy rustling is an ancient and noble profession, my pappy's pappy's pappy was doing it as all the fore fathers before him did. Nothing like waking up the beginning of the harvest and smelling as those freshly rustled jimmies.

this guy knows whats up

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:48 AM
btw, assuming i think you care is just that an assumption

if youre going to decide my argument for my side, why am i even here? why not just talk in the corner by yourself?

trolls confuse me

sounds like a personal problem

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:48 AM
Have you met horza yet?

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:55 AM
so because im responding and checking a forum in which my name is the title that i care? i guess enough to check and respond

but in the way you mean as if my feelings are hurt that one of you feels some type of way then def not, id suggest dont use the internet if that was the case for anyone

but the fact youre pouring out words with no meaning under the false assumption that i care what you had to say for simple responding or point out the fact that nothing you say holds water esp because youve added nothing but insults this far.....

is sad to say the least, but more confusing than anything, youve been unsuccessful in "rustling my jimmies" but even if you did find the one person it makes legit angry, what do you gain exactly? does it change the fact what youre doing is a douche move?

spoiler it doesnt =p but keep trying


Yawn...... Im going to watch my war movies and sleep good luck

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:56 AM
If you ever need a shoulder to cry on im sure you and cecily would get along just fine

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 12:59 AM
Keep telling your self that. would you like a banana sticker with that award

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 01:00 AM
in the face of facts he retreats

cyas =)

you leftist goodnight libturd

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 01:05 AM
Shut up.... I'm going to bed I work tomorrow unlike you

axisofebola
11-23-2019, 01:07 AM
You two maladjusted morons should start a circus together.

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 01:07 AM
I heard Horza runs that....... Night libturds

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 01:13 AM
Im always having a good time.... Dont be mistaken

Wonkie
11-23-2019, 01:13 AM
You two maladjusted morons should start a circus together.

Whoop whoop

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 01:14 AM
Im sure my 14 day ban is coming up but its worth it :P

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 01:17 AM
im not mistaken, i believe youre having a good time

if you had a brain you wouldnt be splurting gibberish and could see common sense

vice versa, people who are wrong and dont know when theyre wrong, dont get the feeling of being wrong since they dont know it....whod have thunk

You have problems buddy

Aphexx2886
11-23-2019, 01:19 AM
This is what RNF has been missing

Aphexx2886
11-23-2019, 01:42 AM
Takes skill xD

Zal22
11-23-2019, 02:30 AM
Dont be a Cecily

You seem to be on Lulz levels of insanity. I see baldness, impotence and drug addiction in your future.

This was still a wise post, however.

AgentEpilot
11-23-2019, 05:57 AM
Stuff like this is sometimes more entertaining than the drunks I get during nightshift, I wonder how many of them are p99’ers. Should put my character name above the beer cooler.

Thomacles
11-23-2019, 01:12 PM
Why do I get the feeling these 2 knuckleheads look like that inbred banjo guy from the movie Deliverance?

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 01:15 PM
Shut up

Lulz Sect
11-23-2019, 01:16 PM
Obese levels of mad

Valeriya
11-23-2019, 01:33 PM
'

radda
11-25-2019, 12:10 AM
Kantnecro kills their pet in strike of current #1 lister not helping their whole time at manastone until now.

im sure there is more to come.

Vostok
11-25-2019, 01:47 PM
10 pages and no proof

Bardp1999
11-25-2019, 01:53 PM
Lots of double and triple posting by OP indicates he is very mad

radda
11-25-2019, 09:23 PM
seems Kantnecro missed their afk check while @ #1 position.

ZiggyTheMuss
11-25-2019, 09:36 PM
seems Kantnecro missed their afk check while @ #1 position.

Kamal2 could not be reached for comment at the time of this posting but there was an ear deafening autistic screeching reported coming from his abode by one of our inside sources.

Kron
11-26-2019, 10:48 AM
Is it normal for a Druid to leave their camp to go cast SOW on someone rather then just have the person walk over to them and not risk having lost their camp?

I assume Valeriya is like a forum troll XD

Dude just spam silly things to get under peoples skin and they fall for it.

Khorza
11-26-2019, 11:40 AM
You tried to elf lawyer someone who left their camp

When you abandon a camp, and the zone that it's in, you give up your claim to the camp. You can make up some bullshit term like "elf lawyering" but the obvious truth here is that Kantok was following the server's rules and you were not.

No amount of whining or crying on rnf changes that fact.

Like I get it, you were doing something nice by SoWing some guy in Rivervale. You could return by the time mobs respawned. In a civilized world there would be no problem here.

But EQ is a competitive game with lots of players, limited camps, and no instancing. You can't blame the guy for taking the opportunity of a nice open camp. I'm sure if the roles were reversed then you would become the elf lawyer.

Also, you then returned to the camp that you abandoned, and started harassing the guy in tells and by messing with his pulls.

OP case is a sympathetic one, but he was definitely the one in the wrong here.

Nirgon
11-26-2019, 12:06 PM
When people at a camp immediately go nuts when I show up, that's why I go hardcore rulebook.

A friendly hello and discussion of working out mobs goes a long way.

If ur a firegiant, I will grief you so damn bad.

Leave camp at all = lose it unless ur being pals.

Whirled
11-26-2019, 12:31 PM
This thread needs Juntsy /role

Netherzul
11-26-2019, 01:32 PM
Nirgon, how'd that rez in Ogguk work out for you the other day?

TomisFeline
11-26-2019, 02:50 PM
man this was a juicy rnf
stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back
level of juicy

Tecmos Deception
11-26-2019, 10:06 PM
Kantok sure sounds like a piece of shit based on one side of this story. Well written rnf with appropriate name n shame. I give this 9.5/10

I say 8. It just doesn't hit the feels quite enough without a screenshot.

Shaquilleos
11-26-2019, 11:12 PM
I say 8. It just doesn't hit the feels quite enough without a screenshot.

Tecmos, The Dark Men of Odus are here to subvert your expectations. Happened a few days before this thread. Enjoy!

Valeriya
11-27-2019, 12:15 AM
Quit crying

radda
11-27-2019, 12:18 AM
Quit crying

Valeriya
11-27-2019, 01:03 AM
Shut up

Valeriya
11-27-2019, 01:14 AM
=) its gonna be ok

Triode
11-27-2019, 01:36 AM
That ugly mug is ruining my immersion. Would one of the immersion police please ban Val or at least take away his ability to have an avatar and signature? Otherwise I'm going to have to make a deep fake of Warren coupling with Mayor Pete to put in my sig to retaliate.

Valeriya
11-27-2019, 01:42 AM
That ugly mug is ruining my immersion. Would one of the immersion police please ban Val or at least take away his ability to have an avatar and signature? Otherwise I'm going to have to make a deep fake of Warren coupling with Mayor Pete to put in my sig to retaliate.

This isnt nazi germany I can sport whatever avatar I like

Valeriya
11-27-2019, 01:46 AM
That ugly mug is ruining my immersion. Would one of the immersion police please ban Val or at least take away his ability to have an avatar and signature? Otherwise I'm going to have to make a deep fake of Warren coupling with Mayor Pete to put in my sig to retaliate.

You and Horza would make great friends

Horza
11-27-2019, 01:48 AM
Otherwise I'm going to have to make a deep fake of Warren coupling with Mayor Pete to put in my sig to retaliate.

I would watch that, Pete's a solid VP pick for Warren.

Valeriya
11-27-2019, 01:49 AM
LOL I knew it!

Triode
11-27-2019, 01:59 AM
This isnt nazi germany I can sport whatever avatar I like

First amendment applies to the government not privately owned forums.

The point here, since you probably couldn't see it with giant images of trump burned into your retinas, is that you are the only special snowflake who feels the need to share your politics as a default setting with each and every post you make. Imagine if everyone else did the same.

Valeriya
11-27-2019, 02:02 AM
First amendment applies to the government not privately owned forums.

The point here, since you probably couldn't see it with giant images of trump burned into your retinas, is that you are the only special snowflake who feels the need to share your politics as a default setting with each and every post you make. Imagine if everyone else did the same.

Idgaf

Valeriya
11-27-2019, 02:06 AM
I'm not doing anything wrong

Triode
11-27-2019, 02:32 AM
I would watch that, Pete's a solid VP pick for Warren.

Haha - it makes for quite the mental image anyways! They would make an interesting pair in the race for sure, but after the recent debates, it seems like there would also be a lot of friction when it came to both policy and campaign finance.

Valeriya
11-27-2019, 02:35 AM
Haha - it makes for quite the mental image anyways! They would make an interesting pair in the race for sure, but after the recent debates, it seems like there would also be a lot of friction when it came to both policy and campaign finance.

Yawn

Tenlaar
11-27-2019, 05:29 AM
I sometimes wonder if people who actually use cuck as an insult like that realize that they are the cringiest fucking losers on the planet.

Tenlaar
11-27-2019, 06:44 AM
how mad are you =p

Not mad enough to call somebody a cuck eight times in a row.

Tenlaar
11-27-2019, 06:49 AM
I'm not surprised that you would think "no u" is going to somehow make you come out looking better here.

Tethler
11-27-2019, 06:54 AM
idk you seem pretty angry, debatable =)

You didn't come out of this thread looking great my man. Whether you were right or wrong in the original exchange doesn't matter much when you show antisocial behavior in a lot of your interactions. Reputation does matter here. Consider adjusting your approach if you don't want to end up a server pariah.

Champion_Standing
11-27-2019, 07:00 AM
low energy thread

Tenlaar
11-27-2019, 08:05 AM
why do you think im here in the first place?

From what I can tell so far? Because you're an asshole but you don't have the nerve to talk to people in real life the way that you can on the internet so this is the only place where you can feel big in the non-fat way.

Tenlaar
11-27-2019, 08:45 AM
"Furthermore, if you examine point seven of thirteen explaining how I definitely don't care, you will clearly see..."

nostalgiaquest
11-27-2019, 08:45 AM
this is why i could care less what you people think or choose to believe

So you admit that you do care?

cd288
11-27-2019, 10:39 AM
A tale of mad and badness in misty thicket.

So I'm killing the gate guards in misty thicket. This necro Kantok sits just behind me where I'm killing them, and he sits there an unusual amount of time with no tells/activity, maybe in excess of two hours.

He finally messages me, asking if I'll tell him when the camp is free. I say sure, no problem. He leaves.

Fast forward another hour or two. A warrior named Hadwin(?)was looking for a SoW for CR. Now, i usually wouldn't do this for most people but for a warrior I figured I'd take the time to help him out. So I told him I'd hit him with SoW after i clear the next respawn if he stays near the RV entrance.

So I go SoW Hadwin. Come back to camp and 1 of the 4 mobs I'm usually killing has respawned, which is normal since the lower level ones die faster they repop a little sooner. But here is Kantok back again claiming this camp is his because "I left" it. Not only were most of the guards dead when he arrived, their corpses were still rotting on the ground, and this guy 100% knew I was camping them.


So I offer to help him split some guard spawns in RV so he could kill there(where the exp is much better I might add) and I could stay in misty. He of course says no because this is "his camp". Eventually it boils down to us claiming single spawns and everything else is FTE.

At one point all the guards respawned at about the same time. Kantok pulls 3 guards and then FDs right on top of me. Of course I get aggro and I'm running around giving him an earful for training me in tellst . At the same time kantok jumps up pulls one of the guards to him and in his zeal to kill as fast as possible and get as many FTE as possible manages to drop himself into critical HP. So of course the 2 mobs he dropped on me run over to him and kill him.

Pretty hilarious, I thought, and at that point i could have petitioned he trained me and he'd have a vacation. But upon seeing how much of a moron this guy was, I was not sure this training was the result of malice or just dipshittery. So I wasn't going to do that unless he did it again, but he then messages me that HE is going to petition ME for training HIM. LOL.

in any event, I think Kantok got a much needed vacation. You really need to chill out, dude, and stop making enemies over such trivial shit.

Idk who is telling the truth about the training, etc., but technically the person you're calling out is right. By the letter of the server rules, if you leave the camp then you can no longer claim it and someone else can take it. You could've just run into RV to bank or vendor for example and come back out 30 seconds later and someone could take the camp in that time. The second you leave the camp, it's no longer yours. That's facts.

Now, we can say the defendant is a jerk or whatever and should be a bit nicer about you going to help someone out with a SoW for a CR, but he's technically not wrong that he can come and take the camp when you leave. Better thing for you to do in the future to avoid any issues would be to have the person needing the SoW come to you at your camp.

Frug
11-27-2019, 11:31 PM
3 "replies" in a row? I hear someone crying, but it doesn't appear to be OP.

Wonkie
11-27-2019, 11:52 PM
From what I can tell so far? Because you're an asshole but you don't have the nerve to talk to people in real life the way that you can on the internet so this is the only place where you can feel big in the non-fat way.

The pen is mighty

Natewest1987
11-28-2019, 12:59 AM
When you abandon a camp, and the zone that it's in, you give up your claim to the camp. You can make up some bullshit term like "elf lawyering" but the obvious truth here is that Kantok was following the server's rules and you were not.

No amount of whining or crying on rnf changes that fact.

Like I get it, you were doing something nice by SoWing some guy in Rivervale. You could return by the time mobs respawned. In a civilized world there would be no problem here.

But EQ is a competitive game with lots of players, limited camps, and no instancing. You can't blame the guy for taking the opportunity of a nice open camp. I'm sure if the roles were reversed then you would become the elf lawyer.

Also, you then returned to the camp that you abandoned, and started harassing the guy in tells and by messing with his pulls.

OP case is a sympathetic one, but he was definitely the one in the wrong here.

What if you get trained and die because of the person who inevitably took your camp while you were heading back ? Had this happen to me the other day.

Natewest1987
11-28-2019, 01:02 AM
From what I can tell so far? Because you're an asshole but you don't have the nerve to talk to people in real life the way that you can on the internet so this is the only place where you can feel big in the non-fat way.

Omg 🔥

axisofebola
11-28-2019, 04:56 AM
Idk who is telling the truth about the training, etc., but technically the person you're calling out is right. By the letter of the server rules, if you leave the camp then you can no longer claim it and someone else can take it. You could've just run into RV to bank or vendor for example and come back out 30 seconds later and someone could take the camp in that time. The second you leave the camp, it's no longer yours. That's facts.

Now, we can say the defendant is a jerk or whatever and should be a bit nicer about you going to help someone out with a SoW for a CR, but he's technically not wrong that he can come and take the camp when you leave. Better thing for you to do in the future to avoid any issues would be to have the person needing the SoW come to you at your camp.

Not quite true. What is supposed to happen is the other guy who shows up later and is interested in taking the camp that was already being held is supposed to make it known he is contesting the camp. He actually did the entire opposite, telling me he was leaving and to tell him when I'm done with the camp.

Additionally, the "second you leave the camp" is also not true. Even after being contested, you only have to maintain a presence "nearby" in the zone, not right at the spawn/camp.

And it doesn't matter anyway, i already conceded he could rule lawyer if he wanted and it would mean each claiming a spawn and everything else is FTE.


Lots of double and triple posting by OP indicates he is very mad

Think you are confusing who the OP is. I've hardly even posted in this thread as I've said my piece and stated all the facts correctly as they had occurred.

When you abandon a camp, and the zone that it's in, you give up your claim to the camp. You can make up some bullshit term like "elf lawyering" but the obvious truth here is that Kantok was following the server's rules and you were not.


OP case is a sympathetic one, but he was definitely the one in the wrong here.

No, he didn't follow the rules. He trained me. Additionally, in an outdoor zone you can only technically claim one spawn and that's exactly what happened in this instance. The camping rules were 100% followed to the letter.

cd288
11-28-2019, 11:16 AM
Not quite true. What is supposed to happen is the other guy who shows up later and is interested in taking the camp that was already being held is supposed to make it known he is contesting the camp. He actually did the entire opposite, telling me he was leaving and to tell him when I'm done with the camp.

Additionally, the "second you leave the camp" is also not true. Even after being contested, you only have to maintain a presence "nearby" in the zone, not right at the spawn.

This is incorrect. You literally have to be at the camp for the most part. By maintaining a presence nearby in the zone they mean like you can go a bit back from the camp if it’s dangerous to camp right next to it.

If you leave the camp you lose it. For instance, if you run off to vendor quick, you lose the camp (hence why people doing camps like Felwithe guards will pay people to go vendor the loot for them).

You have a misunderstanding of the rules. Sorry.

Valeriya
11-28-2019, 11:27 AM
This is incorrect. You literally have to be at the camp for the most part. By maintaining a presence nearby in the zone they mean like you can go a bit back from the camp if it’s dangerous to camp right next to it.

If you leave the camp you lose it. For instance, if you run off to vendor quick, you lose the camp (hence why people doing camps like Felwithe guards will pay people to go vendor the loot for them).

You have a misunderstanding of the rules. Sorry.

shut up

Tethler
11-29-2019, 11:37 PM
This is incorrect. You literally have to be at the camp for the most part. By maintaining a presence nearby in the zone they mean like you can go a bit back from the camp if it’s dangerous to camp right next to it.

If you leave the camp you lose it. For instance, if you run off to vendor quick, you lose the camp (hence why people doing camps like Felwithe guards will pay people to go vendor the loot for them).

You have a misunderstanding of the rules. Sorry.

This is only true is the camp is being contested. If nobody is contesting, you can absolutely go sell and whatnot as long as you dont die/zone/fail to return before respawn. Once someone communicates their intention to contest, then you need to maintain presence.

Directly from the PNP (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349), underlined relevant part:

[QUOTE]That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'. In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders (or the room if there are no placeholders) cleared, within the same zone, do not die or log off. You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it. You cannot hold multiple 'camps' if another group wishes to contest one that you are holding. The player holding multiple 'camps' retains the right to choose which 'camp' to give up.

Tethler
11-29-2019, 11:38 PM
opps, forgot the closing [/QUOTE] tag. Anyway, you get the point.

cd288
11-30-2019, 02:39 AM
This is only true is the camp is being contested. If nobody is contesting, you can absolutely go sell and whatnot as long as you dont die/zone/fail to return before respawn. Once someone communicates their intention to contest, then you need to maintain presence.

Directly from the PNP (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349), underlined relevant part:

[QUOTE]That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'. In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders (or the room if there are no placeholders) cleared, within the same zone, do not die or log off. You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it. You cannot hold multiple 'camps' if another group wishes to contest one that you are holding. The player holding multiple 'camps' retains the right to choose which 'camp' to give up.

And defendant had said he wanted the camp when OP was done with it and had been sitting there for hours waiting soooo....

Seems contested to me

Tethler
11-30-2019, 02:49 AM
And defendant had said he wanted the camp when OP was done with it and had been sitting there for hours waiting soooo....

Seems contested to me



He finally messages me, asking if I'll tell him when the camp is free. I say sure, no problem. He leaves.

ast forward another hour or two... etc



At this point, he is no longer contesting. He's waiting on a list while being elsewhere for at least an hour.

Assuming the OP is telling the truth anyway /shrug

Pozzey
11-30-2019, 06:56 AM
90% of the time im laughing at RNF

Quit crying. No one cares.