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SkeletonLrodd
11-21-2019, 11:39 AM
Would you want to see all end of life servers merge to the same place?
i.e. merge Green to Blue when it reaches post Velious, and Green 2.0 when it reaches end of life as well, etc?
Tilien
11-21-2019, 10:24 PM
I still haven't heard a convincing reason not to have all end of life servers sit merge.
Bardp1999
11-21-2019, 10:37 PM
I still haven't heard a convincing reason not to have all end of life servers sit merge.
Blues economy is completely fucked - I pray to god they never merge the servers
Tilien
11-21-2019, 10:39 PM
Blues economy is completely fucked - I pray to god they never merge the servers
... vs green's economy a year after the last patch?
Tecmos Deception
11-21-2019, 10:53 PM
Who cares? Any time green X finishes, I'll be restarting on green X+1.
Man0warr
11-21-2019, 10:53 PM
... vs green's economy a year after the last patch?
I assume Green/Teal won't have years worth of unclassic Seafuries like Blue did. That's where most of the raw plat on the server originated from.
Tecmos Deception
11-21-2019, 10:56 PM
I assume Green/Teal won't have years worth of unclassic Seafuries like Blue did. That's where most of the raw plat on the server originated from.
They'll have a significantly higher average lifetime population though. I wouldn't be surprised if green economy and mudflation for all tradeable loot is the same as blue at the end of greens half-as-long lifetime.
Blue went years with under 400 peak population.
Tilien
11-21-2019, 11:12 PM
I assume Green/Teal won't have years worth of unclassic Seafuries like Blue did. That's where most of the raw plat on the server originated from.
if Green and Teal merge you'll have at least double the expected legacy items and general loot for the time they were separate, but "muh classic economy and 100plat+ words".
Psyborg
11-21-2019, 11:17 PM
Blues economy is completely fucked - I pray to god they never merge the servers
Green/Teal are on a crash course towards the same thing. Merging them is the only long term answer which is sustainable for p99. Also, the market will normalize in short order after a merge.
Tilien
11-24-2019, 12:58 AM
Green/Teal are on a crash course towards the same thing. Merging them is the only long term answer which is sustainable for p99. Also, the market will normalize in short order after a merge.
Yea I don't get the logic:
"Blue being around for too long ruined the economy"
also
"Green's economy won't suffer from being locked at Velious indefinitely (or from Teal/Green double camping manastones etc)"
vossiewulf
11-24-2019, 01:05 AM
Why not merge the Blue characters, naked, with the rest? That way you leave the economic issues behind but don't also lose your characters in the process.
Tilien
11-24-2019, 01:22 AM
Why not merge the Blue characters, naked, with the rest? That way you leave the economic issues behind but don't also lose your characters in the process.
I would personally not do this... I'd be fine leaving plat etc. but for example I got my epic and wouldn't want to recamp those things.
Once Green becomes locked it becomes a rot server anyway, all the pearl clutching of people who think their locked server will remain classic after they'll be farming Velious for years again is kind of hilarious.
bubur
11-24-2019, 01:41 AM
its a video game
who cares
Wallicker
11-24-2019, 02:21 AM
I think each new green should merge into the green before it, blue will have almost 15yrs once green ends cycle.... and tons of RMT, cross server trading, no limit mob AoE PLing, early platinum exploits of all kinds like scripts running to buy certain items that sold for more than it cost to buy, etc... all of this stuff atleast can be prevented or atleast largely mitigated on green 1 and future greens. Sure people will get more manastones this go around but supply vs demand on cost. Blue should stay separated
vossiewulf
11-24-2019, 02:34 AM
its a video game
who cares
Yes, but also, look it's the person who takes time to post that they don't care about the thing that they're posting about.
Baler
11-24-2019, 03:37 AM
In 3 years and 6 months everyone will want a fresh green.
Merge it into blue and start green fresh.
People can still play their level 60 raid characters on blue.
Tilien
11-24-2019, 09:25 AM
I think each new green should merge into the green before it, blue will have almost 15yrs once green ends cycle.... and tons of RMT, cross server trading, no limit mob AoE PLing, early platinum exploits of all kinds like scripts running to buy certain items that sold for more than it cost to buy, etc... all of this stuff atleast can be prevented or atleast largely mitigated on green 1 and future greens. Sure people will get more manastones this go around but supply vs demand on cost. Blue should stay separated
And keeping it separate benefits who? Casual players? Or the people who are talking about circumventing /list and boxing rules using screen sharing with their friends to monopolize Green's economy?
It's a rot server in 3 years time it's kind of funny how worried people are about preserving their future rot servers moral integrity.
Phaezed-Reality
11-24-2019, 09:40 AM
basically people who want server merges into blue or red are huge ruined mith tunic traders and i'd avoid this discussion at any chance. These people who talk about economy on elf sim don't actually give a shit about the ingame econ, they got left holding the bag on blue and now need a way to dump it.
Rot in shit, your friendly Brother Ramal Modo
Tilien
11-24-2019, 09:50 AM
I'm anxious that if green merges that becoming a tunnel fat cat on Green will have been pointless, and using screen sharing to exploit green will only get me so far,
your friendly Brother Ramal Modo
So like I said... People against the merge are mostly low int trolls concerned with their feelings instead of facts. Sad.
silo32
11-24-2019, 01:03 PM
Blues economy is completely fucked - I pray to god they never merge the servers
this so much on so many levels... this is why I left blue years ago...
pre velious half way through kunark I went to red. Because blue was more of shit show.
El-Hefe
11-24-2019, 01:53 PM
I’d prefer they just leave Green as the permanent server and merge all future servers into it instead of Blue.
Blue will have had 13 years of over farming and beta fuckery going on once the merge is being considered. Plus mountains of gear that was gained under a different ruleset with at many times completely different QOL situations.
silo32
11-24-2019, 02:14 PM
blue had like 7 years of kunark, lmao... and so many things were exploited including mobs that dropped vendor loot that sold for outrageous amounts. Many people profited off these not classic features and loopholes that were later patched in blue.
Leave green alone let blue be the beta server like it always was
Psyborg
11-25-2019, 09:47 AM
I’d prefer they just leave Green as the permanent server and merge all future servers into it instead of Blue.
Blue will have had 13 years of over farming and beta fuckery going on once the merge is being considered. Plus mountains of gear that was gained under a different ruleset with at many times completely different QOL situations.
This answer really doesn't scale well. Merge everything into a singular server just means you're creating a second place with a saturated market. P99 is not going to do this. Merge all end of life characters on to one server and let the markets normalize. It will happen quickly.
Psyborg
11-25-2019, 09:49 AM
blue had like 7 years of kunark, lmao... and so many things were exploited including mobs that dropped vendor loot that sold for outrageous amounts. Many people profited off these not classic features and loopholes that were later patched in blue.
Leave green alone let blue be the beta server like it always was
The amount of accounts rotting or banned has made that pretty insignificant. In 3 years time people merging into Blue from Green will create a new economy.
silo32
11-25-2019, 11:09 AM
its a video game
who cares
life is just a game
pull your plug, who cares?
Tilien
11-25-2019, 11:09 AM
This answer really doesn't scale well. Merge everything into a singular server just means you're creating a second place with a saturated market. P99 is not going to do this. Merge all end of life characters on to one server and let the markets normalize. It will happen quickly.
It doesn't matter what you say, the people who desperately hate on Blue and pine for a "pure" green server are the ones who lost out being big dogs on Blue or got their big dog accounts banned on Blue and are hoping to monopolize the Green economy.... merging will weaken their pixel death grip, like the people who are double farming manastones on Green and Teal and calling their double items classic or screen sharing to circumvent boxing and list rules.
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