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Seungkyu
11-15-2019, 07:45 PM
Just a heads up, if your a solo player looking to camp a Manastone it might be tougher than you think.

The #1 and #2 spots are rotating their account through multiple people.

I'm currently #3 on a Manastone camp after waiting 34 hours. I wouldn't have stayed this long if I knew I was against rotating teams.

Fun Fact: The last two people to get Manastones in this group are Crovax and Grakken from that 35 page monstrosity

baakss
11-15-2019, 07:50 PM
Teal has had better luck than Green.

It's been 43 hours since our last Manastone drop. A couple have been here since Monday/Tuesday.

It's impossible to climb the list completely alone at this droprate without major health concerns.

AgentEpilot
11-15-2019, 07:53 PM
Yea list system needs revised, people are now offering to sit in it for people for plat.

aaezil
11-15-2019, 07:55 PM
By the time they make a fix it wont even be dropping anymore lol guess its time to pay ppl to sit

SenoraRaton
11-15-2019, 08:00 PM
I feel like I should make a thread for this, but no one was responsive to constructive advice....

Just set it to time at camp on list. Highest time at camp is awarded the stone. Allow me to sleep, and allow me to come and go from the camp. Can also just add a point every afk check/ph damaged etc instead of just time. This means you don't have to account share, you don't have to spend consecutive days awake, and in time your time invested WILL be rewarded. Instead I run the risk of passing out on my keyboard, having my account stripped/stolen, or other real life health issues in order to participate in one of the key elements of this server.

Yoite
11-15-2019, 08:08 PM
in order to participate in one of the key elements of this server.

i mean this isnt a manastone farming simulator. this is just a tiny, insignificant part of this whole project. yall going crazy over this digital crack rock

Bannen
11-15-2019, 08:09 PM
I wish they would just make this drop more often. Maybe a 6 hour guarantee drop or less. I'm not opposed to others getting good items.

GnomeCaptain
11-15-2019, 08:23 PM
This just shows that mindlessly sticking to "classic" results in anything but a classic experience. And in this case a dangerous experience.

We didn't know all details of the game when EQ launched, so the only way to have a similar experience is to introduce mystery.

Want to have the Manastone in the game?

Than have it drop off a group of different mobs. This group is of appropriate level and location and lore. Perhaps it is never dropped by the same mob twice.

That's exciting and fun.

Sitting in your own filth for extremely long periods of time, endangering your health and self-respect all for a certain drop is neither fun nor exciting.

SenoraRaton
11-15-2019, 08:29 PM
i mean this isnt a manastone farming simulator. this is just a tiny, insignificant part of this whole project. yall going crazy over this digital crack rock

Ignore content, attack poster. Thanks for your constructive contribution.

glencastle
11-15-2019, 08:30 PM
Someone will eventually die on a long enough timeline of this manastone being on green/teal unless something is done to remedy the list situation.

It might have to take someone perishing from this long camp before any action is taken to adjust how the list system works.

Also, if players are account sharing, that is negatively impacting all others who are actually dedicating their own time to camping this thing.

Sad day

shuklak
11-15-2019, 08:34 PM
If you want to roll with the big dogs you gotta pay your dues.

These items were going to be uber rare and if neckbeards want to win them then that's just how the game is.

GnomeCaptain
11-15-2019, 08:36 PM
Someone will eventually die

Sad day

So true.

I have a lot of respect for the makers of this project, but it seems they are stubborn, arrogant, and unwilling to recognize that this list situation is extremely bad.

I guess it will take a death to relieve them of their arrogance.

Vexenu
11-15-2019, 08:39 PM
I really wish the legacy items had been left out entirely, as was the case with ALL NEW server launches after their initial removal. It is CLASSIC to launch new servers without legacy items. In hindsight that would have been the best choice to prevent this absolute shitshow and maintain a classic feel.

ZiggyTheMuss
11-15-2019, 08:43 PM
If you want to roll with the big dogs you gotta pay your dues.

These items were going to be uber rare and if neckbeards want to win them then that's just how the game is.

Yep. Without the list the casual players would have ZERO chance of getting the stone. The list at least makes it possible for them but AT WHAT COST??!?

It's not up to Rogean to protect people from themselves. People seriously need to be adults here and make the right decision. Either account share OR DON'T CAMP IT.

bwe
11-15-2019, 08:48 PM
Rotating players is lame and should be forbidden

Soothsayer
11-15-2019, 08:50 PM
So true.

I have a lot of respect for the makers of this project, but it seems they are stubborn, arrogant, and unwilling to recognize that this list situation is extremely bad.

I guess it will take a death to relieve them of their arrogance.

If some neckbeard dies from a pulmonary embolism while trying to acquire one single piece of loot in a decades-old game, that's natural selection at work. People die for frivolous, stupid things every moment of every day.

The list situation is bad and runs contrary to its stated goal of allowing every player who wants an item to have that item, but most of us are grown-ups and it's our responsibility not to engage in self-destructive behavior. The most obvious solution is simply to ignore the list and farm platinum to purchase the items you want, which can be done on your own terms rather than the terms of an ultra-competitive list filled with mentally ill no-lifers and account sharers.

zodium
11-15-2019, 08:57 PM
legacy items should drop 6 at a time

Seungkyu
11-15-2019, 09:01 PM
Rotating players is lame and should be forbidden

Definitely not classic, but people will always find a way to misuse the system to their advantage.

Someone will eventually die

I've been awake at least 48 hours, I'm hitting that minimum benchmark for online deaths, woot!

natural selection at work. People die for frivolous, stupid things

filled with mentally ill no-lifers and account sharers.

Forgive me, I was not aware I stood in the presence of such genetic greatness.

getlostgreg
11-15-2019, 09:18 PM
When somebody dies at this camp P99 is going to get a lot of press. The resulting surge of new players will probably require a 3rd server.

I propose the next server be called Lime, Mint or Pickle. Or maybe we name it after the deceased?

Purplefluffy
11-15-2019, 09:21 PM
This just shows that mindlessly sticking to "classic" results in anything but a classic experience. And in this case a dangerous experience.

We didn't know all details of the game when EQ launched, so the only way to have a similar experience is to introduce mystery.

Want to have the Manastone in the game?

Than have it drop off a group of different mobs. This group is of appropriate level and location and lore. Perhaps it is never dropped by the same mob twice.

That's exciting and fun.

Sitting in your own filth for extremely long periods of time, endangering your health and self-respect all for a certain drop is neither fun nor exciting.

This is a good solution but where would it stop?

Phaezed-Reality
11-15-2019, 09:46 PM
cool, as long as only 1 or 2 people get them thats ok with me. im sure they will put good use to them raking antonicans over the coals.

strawman
11-15-2019, 09:48 PM
someone is going to DIE camping manastone
meme of the year 2019

Mercius
11-15-2019, 10:39 PM
put a 12 hour time limit on being #1

if you get bad luck and it doesnt drop too bad try again the next day

this would ensure the list was moving at least every 12 hours

oldhead
11-15-2019, 10:43 PM
no reason to allow farming of it imo.

turbosilk
11-15-2019, 10:57 PM
When somebody dies at this camp P99 is going to get a lot of press. The resulting surge of new players will probably require a 3rd server.

I propose the next server be called Lime, Mint or Pickle. Or maybe we name it after the deceased?

How can you kill that which has no life?

Tethler
11-15-2019, 11:01 PM
The real answer here is to not camp a manastone. You're welcome.

Lhord99
11-15-2019, 11:31 PM
I say give em all a manastone on first char creation. Make it no drop. Make it a one time deal. Teach a lesson about commitment.

Fammaden
11-15-2019, 11:42 PM
I really wish the legacy items had been left out entirely, as was the case with ALL NEW server launches after their initial removal. It is CLASSIC to launch new servers without legacy items. In hindsight that would have been the best choice to prevent this absolute shitshow and maintain a classic feel.

/thread

Remove all this shit from the drop tables and delete all existing copies. Those of us who actually like playing EQ for other reasons will remain.

Wonkie
11-15-2019, 11:57 PM
The real answer here is to not camp a manastone. You're welcome.

i'm really glad i skipped all of this nonsense.

level 2 necro checking out

Fammaden
11-16-2019, 12:12 AM
i'm really glad i skipped all of this nonsense.

level 2 necro checking out

Amazing discipline getting to level two and resisting the urge to get a manastone for your necromancer. High kudos to you sir.

Mercius
11-16-2019, 12:16 AM
Amazing discipline getting to level two and resisting the urge to get a manastone for your necromancer. High kudos to you sir.

i laughed :D

Magerin
11-16-2019, 07:55 PM
If it was made during this time that Manastones were made Notrade, lore, soul bound it would fix the problems we are having.

Danth
11-16-2019, 07:58 PM
If it was made during this time that Manastones were made Notrade, lore, soul bound it would fix the problems we are having.

I'm not sure it would. Reading posts about this thing it appears to be triggering some sort of psychological obsession in some players. Rationality and good sense seem to be out the door. I'm reminded of tales of "gold fever" in 19th century gold rushes, except without the possibility of significant real-world payout.

Danth

Lone Gnome
11-16-2019, 07:58 PM
A manastone was not meant to be something you camp for days, people didnt do this on classic.

korzax
11-16-2019, 08:04 PM
Only things i camped was the key from the priest of najena for a buddy and me, and the robe of dalnir for a week, not full time. After we got his robe I didn't want to camp one for myself.

Deliverator
11-16-2019, 09:20 PM
A manastone was not meant to be something you camp for days, people didnt do this on classic.

Probably because there was roughly a 60% chance that the evil eye would spawn and had at least a 20% chance of dropping a manastone so you wouldn't need to camp it for days.

jacob54311
11-16-2019, 09:22 PM
Probably because there was roughly a 60% chance that the evil eye would spawn and had at least a 20% chance of dropping a manastone so you wouldn't need to camp it for days.

Hard facts. Taken from a reliable source, I'm sure.

Phaezed-Reality
11-16-2019, 09:46 PM
The truth is alot sadder why the manastone is over camped and has nothing to do with politics or incels or anything like that and just straight poverty :(

you see those people? they need help. Not manastones. Wish we as a community instead of fighting over petty pixels would just come together to stabalize these peoples lives to where they dont need to camp manastones

edit: we should create a job creator subsection on the forum, based on state, so we can get these people above poverty wages.

SunDrake
11-16-2019, 10:35 PM
"People are doing to die camping these Manastones" - lol.

Deliverator
11-16-2019, 10:49 PM
Hard facts. Taken from a reliable source, I'm sure.

Just multiple independent eyewitness accounts.

Zekayy
11-16-2019, 11:57 PM
so I dont understand how it can be done cause once you log out to switch accounts if they are account sharing it would in theory take you off the list Yes?

Videri
11-17-2019, 12:00 AM
so I dont understand how it can be done cause once you log out to switch accounts if they are account sharing it would in theory take you off the list Yes?

It doesn't take you off instantly. You have a grace period of some number of minutes, similar to when you leave the area of the camp. You have time to /camp out, get out of your account, and have someone else log in.

Provision must be made for people who go LD so they don't lose their position in the /list.

nicemace
11-17-2019, 12:11 AM
People also remote desktop with things like TeamViewer. Steam. Chrome remote desktop. Which means the account doesn't even need to be logged out from the original users PC.

DMN
11-17-2019, 12:43 AM
The truth is alot sadder why the manastone is over camped and has nothing to do with politics or incels or anything like that and just straight poverty :(

you see those people? they need help. Not manastones. Wish we as a community instead of fighting over petty pixels would just come together to stabalize these peoples lives to where they dont need to camp manastones

edit: we should create a job creator subsection on the forum, based on state, so we can get these people above poverty wages.

Free malt liquor, fried chicken, and Newports to the starving masses!

Kohedron
11-17-2019, 01:31 AM
something something 'this wouldn't be an issue on red' something etc etc

Deliverator
11-17-2019, 01:38 AM
something something 'this wouldn't be an issue on red' something etc etc

With a maximum population of 1/2 I'm sure this would not be a problem on red.

bwe
11-17-2019, 01:49 AM
Free malt liquor, fried chicken, and Newports to the starving masses!

hm why did you say those things in particular

Bristlebaner
11-17-2019, 02:32 AM
i mean this isnt a manastone farming simulator. this is just a tiny, insignificant part of this whole project. yall going crazy over this digital crack rock

and that's where you're wrong...P99 is a pixel vending machine. Everything in the game is just one big speed bump on your way to new pixels.